[Mailman-Users] some mailing list members not getting emails

[nigel white]

Dear friends

Some of my Mailman mailing list members are not getting the emails that 
the other members are receiving. Do you have any idea what could be 
involved here, and where I should look for the source of the issue?


I have 3 Mailman mailing lists - 'Activists' has 98 members and gets 
about 10 messages/week, 'Chat' has 194 members and gets about 2 
messages/week, 'Triangle' has 129 members and gets about 20 
messages/week. In addition I have 2 other lists that are too sleepy to 
mention.


Could it be something to do with spam blacklists? Very occasionally one 
of the messages arrives tagged as ***SPAM*** so something, somewhere, is 
making a guess that it was spam. I have searched for the domain name 
headingley.org and the shared IP address 195.216.196.131 on some 
blacklist searches but it doesn't show up.


In one case of a couple, who are both members, one receives some 
messages that the other does not and visa versa. One is @ntlworld.com 
and the other is @yahoo.co.uk.


In another case of a couple, who are both members, one received a 
message which the other did not. Both are @btinternet.com.


Its hard to say how prevalent this problem is as none of my punters know 
about messages which they are not receiving.


Any ideas of how I can trace the fault?

Many thanks
Nigel
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch: Preserve Content-Transfer-Encodingwhenadding footer or scrubbing

[Petr Hroudný]

2009/5/8 Mark Sapiro :
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>
>>For those patches, I don't see the need for any patch to Scrubber,
>>since what I think your patch will do is encode the "Attachment
>>Scrubbed" message with the encoding of the scrubbed attachment. I
>>don't think that's either appropriate or what you want. The scrubbed
>>attachment itself is decoded.
>
>
> I withdraw the above comment. I didn't look closely enough at the
> Scrubber patch. It does seem that the patch will make the encoding of
> the flattened, scrubbed message equal to that of the first text/plain
> part of the original message or None.

Yes that's exactly the idea. Scrubber already takes the charset and
RFC3676 parameters from the first text/plain part, so I made the patch
to take transfer-encoding from it as well.  Without the patches, mailman
always sets content-transfer-encoding of the flattened message according
to Python's default (e.g. base64 for UTF-8). After patching it will preserve
the sender's choice: QP / BASE64 / 8bit (None).

Regards, Petr
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch: Preserve Content-Transfer-Encoding when adding footer or scrubbing

[Petr Hroudný]

2009/5/8 Brad Knowles :
> on 5/5/09 12:44 PM, Petr Hroudný said:
>
>> Please find the patches attached/scrubbed. Let me know your opinion about
>> this.
>
> Yup, they were scrubbed alright.  ;-)
>
> Seriously, discussions regarding patches to Mailman should be had on the
> mailman-developers list, and it would probably be a good idea to upload
> patches first to the tracker.

I actually did it yesterday and attached the patches here:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/373083
MM changes content-transfer-encoding when adding footer/scrubbing

> However, we do greatly appreciate your effort in producing these patches,
> and this is a discussion that I think the developers would love to continue
> to have with you.  Thanks!

Thanks, I'm looking forward to any comments either on the tracker or
the developers list.

Regards, Petr
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[Mailman-Users] Mailing list + message filter problem

[Filipe Daros]

Does anyone know how to set up a Mailing list and make it accept e-mails from
anyone and also accept email from a forwarding rule within the same domain? 
For example: My main e-mail address is t...@test.com and I created a list:
l...@test.com. I also created a message filter that forwards any e-mail sent
to t...@test.com and has the word "hello" on it's subject to the list
l...@test.com. 

I tried changing generic_nonmember_action to accept but it still would hold
the emails sent with that subject and the messages get held with the reason:
"Message has implicit destination".

So again I tried changing require_explicit_destination to NO. But now when I
send emails with that specific word on it's subject the e-mails seem to
disappear.

Hope I was clear in my explanation and someone could help me.


Thank you!

Filipe.
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[Mailman-Users] Cant make changes to lists

[Andreas Faye-Lund]

Hi

I have a serious problem with my mailman. When I try to make changes in 
the admin pages, the system just rejects any changes without any error 
messages. (Have checked for error messages in the apache and mailman logs).
The lists works for sending messages, but i cant add any users. Error 
appeared  after I changed the domain of the lists. 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] footers question

[Mark Sapiro]

J.A. Terransonwrote:
>
>I see the variables available for me to play with at 
>http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030561 , but I don't 
>see where to put them.  I vaguely recall there was a page that gets copied 
>with the alterations wanted, but was unable to find it in the howtos or 
>archives. One of the main things we want to addd is a double dash ("--"), 
>does this present any special issues for MM, or is it just text?


You put them inside %(...)s in the footer itself as in the default
footer and the example at the bottom of the FAQ page.

Also, if you want to use a double dash as a signature separator, it is
dash dash space ("-- "), not just two dashes, but note that there is a
bug in Mailman 2.1.10 and 2.1.11 (fixed in 2.1.12) that would remove
the trailing space from a "-- " line in the footer.

The only caveat about footers (and headers) other than the above is if
you want a literal "%" in the footer, you must double it ("%%") in
msg_footer.

Also note that there are additional variables available if the list is
personalized. See the "(Details for msg_footer)" link in the admin ->
Non-digest options section.

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[Mailman-Users] footers question

[J.A. Terranson]

Greetings,

Sorry for asking what is likely s stupid question, but...

I see the variables available for me to play with at 
http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030561 , but I don't 
see where to put them.  I vaguely recall there was a page that gets copied 
with the alterations wanted, but was unable to find it in the howtos or 
archives. One of the main things we want to addd is a double dash ("--"), 
does this present any special issues for MM, or is it just text?

Thanks!
//Alif
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't Delete List Member

[Mark Sapiro]

Dave Bevis wrote:

>I have tried everything I know to do including deleting just the  
>member, cloning the member and removing all the members from the list  
>and I cannot remove this member and it causes any messages to this  
>list to be shunted. Info below when I tried removing member from the  
>web based interface.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.


See below.


>IBug in Mailman version 2.1.4
>
>We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>
>If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a  
>copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description  
>of what happened. Thanks!
>Traceback:
>
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
> main()
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 198, in main
> show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 498, in  
>show_results
> form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 974, in  
>membership_options
> names = filter(None, [mlist.getMemberName(s) for s in members])
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line  
>131, in getMemberName
> self.__assertIsMember(member)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line  
>113, in __assertIsMember
> raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member
>NotAMemberError: hpeop...@mail.hamiltontn.gov


The problem is that a bug which has subsequently been fixed has allowed
a user's email address to be stored with a lower-case local part and a
mixed case domain. This confuses Mailman's membership tests.

See the end of the FAQ at  which will
point you to a script that will fix this.

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[Mailman-Users] Can't Delete List Member

[Dave Bevis]

I have tried everything I know to do including deleting just the  
member, cloning the member and removing all the members from the list  
and I cannot remove this member and it causes any messages to this  
list to be shunted. Info below when I tried removing member from the  
web based interface.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Dave Bevis
d...@dpss.bz



IBug in Mailman version 2.1.4

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a  
copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description  
of what happened. Thanks!

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 198, in main
show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
  File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 498, in  
show_results

form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
  File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 974, in  
membership_options

names = filter(None, [mlist.getMemberName(s) for s in members])
  File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line  
131, in getMemberName

self.__assertIsMember(member)
  File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line  
113, in __assertIsMember

raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member
NotAMemberError: hpeop...@mail.hamiltontn.gov



Python information:

VariableValue
sys.version	2.3 (#1, Sep 13 2003, 00:49:11) [GCC 3.3 20030304 (Apple  
Computer, Inc. build 1495)]

sys.executable  /usr/bin/python
sys.prefix  /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3
sys.exec_prefix /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3
sys.path/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3
sys.platformdarwin


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error I couldnt find in archives

[Mark Sapiro]

J.A. Terranson wrote:
>
>   I just finished (well, I guess *almost finished*) a mailman build 
>(2.1.12), and all seems well - except for a cron output which is being 
>seen as a mailman moderation request.


Because the cron is run by 'mailman' so the output is mailed to
'mailman' which is delivered to the list. If you want it to go
elsewhere, put

mailto=u...@example.com

or whatever address you want at the beginning of Mailman's crontab.

>The crucial message at the end of 
>the traceback is:
>
>IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
>'/usr/home/mailman/lists/spam-l/config.pck'
>
>which makes no sense, as the list is in use with subscribers, and seems 
>fine except for this.


Is the 'mailman' user in the 'mailman' group?

Are permissions on /usr/home/mailman/lists/spam-l drwxrwsr-x and group
mailman?

Are permissions on /usr/home/mailman/lists/spam-l/config.pck -rw-rw
and group mailman?

Did you run bin/check_perms?

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