[Mailman-Users] Multiple users' properties set/unset

2009-05-13 Thread Denis Yurashkou
Hello All!

Do you know any way to set/unset properties of subscribers such as Receive
as text?
We have 2500+ users... and... you understand... )

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-05-13 Thread Fil
Hi,

the VERP system is good to detect bounces, but it has issues when lots
of subscribers are on the same server:

(delivery temporarily suspended: connect to
smtp..xxx.xxx[x]: Connection timed out)
(host mx01..xxx[x] refused to talk to me: 421 4.3.2 Connection
rate limit exceeded.)

As the emails are sent one by one the connection rate to these systems
can get very high, and we get delayed.

Ideas?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple users' properties set/unset

2009-05-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Denis Yurashkou wrote:

Do you know any way to set/unset properties of subscribers such as Receive
as text?
We have 2500+ users... and... you understand... )


Go to http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/ and look at the scripts
set_*.py for examples.

In particular, the script set_mod.py can be changed to (un)set any
option by changing the single occurrence of mm_cfg.Moderate to the bit
you want. See the Bitfield for user options section of Defaults.py
for the symbolic names of the options.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list + message filter problem

2009-05-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Filipe Daros wrote:

For example: My main e-mail address is t...@test.com and I created a list:
l...@test.com. I also created a message filter that forwards any e-mail sent
to t...@test.com and has the word hello on it's subject to the list
l...@test.com. 

I tried changing generic_nonmember_action to accept but it still would hold
the emails sent with that subject and the messages get held with the reason:
Message has implicit destination.

So again I tried changing require_explicit_destination to NO. But now when I
send emails with that specific word on it's subject the e-mails seem to
disappear.


If I understand correctly, the problem is with the 'l...@test.com' list
and the 't...@test.com' list works as expected.

Also, if I understand, you have a process external to Mailman the sees
a post to 't...@test.com' with 'hello' in the subject and forwards it
to 'l...@test.com', and these posts were being held for implicit
destination by the 'l...@test.com' list. You then set
require_explicit_destination to NO on 'l...@test.com' which is one way
to avoid the implicit destination hold, and now the posts forwarded
to 'l...@test.com' just disappear.

Do they appear in the archives of 'l...@test.com'?

Does 'l...@test.com' have any eligible recipients (non-digest members
with delivery enabled and in some cases not an explicit addressee and
not the poster).

What's in Mailman's vette log.

See items 7, 8 and 9 in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9 for
other possibilities.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-05-13 Thread Brad Knowles

Fil wrote:


As the emails are sent one by one the connection rate to these systems
can get very high, and we get delayed.

Ideas?


Having postfix do your VERP'ing for you isn't going to help.  Mailman needs 
to know what VERP was used going out, so that it can match that when the 
bounce comes back in.  Even if you could patch Mailman so that it would 
automatically understand the postfix-style VERP and properly apply that, it 
still wouldn't help you.


Delivering larger amounts of messages from Mailman to postfix and then 
having postfix do the VERP'ing isn't going to keep your delivery rates to 
remote sites at a lower level -- if anything, it's going to increase it.



This is a postfix problem.  Find the sites that cause the problems, and set 
up separate queues for them, with different parallelism and 
re-queueing/re-try schedules.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list + message filter problem

2009-05-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Filipe Zanluca DarĂ³s wrote:

The address t...@test.com is not a list. It is just a pop3 email account.

They do appear in the archives at l...@test.com!

 Does 'l...@test.com' have any eligible recipients (non-digest members
 with delivery enabled and in some cases not an explicit addressee and
 not the poster).

Did not understand what you mean by that. But since I did not add any 
addresses I am guessing no.


So there is no problem. The post was delivered to the list, accepted,
archived and resent to all zero of the list members. Once there are
some members, they will get it too.

If your confusion is that you think the list owner should have received
something, that is an incorrect thought. The list owner is not a list
member unless explicitly added as a member and therefore does not
receive copies of normal posts just by being the owner.

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