Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve all held?

2009-06-22 Thread Alexei Altuhov
Mark Sapiro пишет:
> Алексей Алтухов wrote:
>> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>> Alexei Altuhov wrote:
>>>  
 Unfortunately I don't have access to the web interface, because of the
 Group mismatch error.
 
>>>
>>> We can help you fix that. How did you install Mailman? From our source
>>> or from a vendors package?
>>>
>>> Give us the details, and we'll try to help.
>>>
>>>   
>> Mailman has been installed by one of our admins from the repository, as
>> usual.
> 
> 
> This seems to say you installed someone's package from a package
> repository as opposed to installing from our source.
> 
> 
>> The thing is, that he has installed Asterix afterwards and as I
>> understood from now on all cgi scripts are run from the asterix group
>> rather than the mailman one.
>>
>> Is it possible to change that or divide, which cgi scripts will be
>> executed from the mailman group and which ones from the mailman - I
>> couldn't figure out by myself and that left me with the command line
>> administration.
> 
> 
> If you installed from source, the way to fix this is to re-run configure
> with the addition of the option "--with-cgi-gid=asterix" and then run
> "make install". The alternative is to configure the web server (is this
> Asterix?) to run the Mailman CGI wrappers as the group they expect, but
> I gather this is not possible in your case.
> 
> Most packaged versions of Mailman have a way to tell the CGI wrappers
> what group to expect, but how you do that is specific to the package.
> You need to ask the packager. I.e., if this is a RedHat or CentOS rpm,
> ask on a RedHat list or see other RedHat support resources; if Debian or
> Ubuntu, check those support resources, etc.
> 

Sorry for misspelling the name of the SW: it's Asterisk, open source
PBX. And the web server is Apache 2.x.

I learned from the beginning, that if Mailman is installed from source
it would have been easier to cope with the group mismatch problem, but...

Admin installed Mailman from the RHEL rpm, so, thanks for the pointer,
I'll try to find answers from that community. (I knew it's good I
subscribed to CentOS list earlier! =) )

Thanks again,
all the best,

Alexei.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Internal 500 Error (Ubuntu jaunty / Mailman 2.1.12/ Python 2.6.2)

2009-06-22 Thread Dev Guy
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

>
> The OP and I had a conversation on the #mailman channel at freenode. We
> determined that he could successfully run
>
> sudo -u www-data /bin/sh -c "PATH_INFO=;export
> PATH_INFO;HTTP_HOST=www.example.com;export
> HTTP_HOST;REQUEST_METHOD=GET;export REQUEST_METHOD;
> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo"
>
> (with appropriate changes to host and path) from the command line and
> the listinfo CGI would produce appropriate output, so the problem is
> apparently some issue with the way apache is (or isn't) invoking the
> CGI. The OP says suEXEC is not involved, and I had no other ideas.
>

I spent some time with Apache guys and they said the way the script is being
executed doesn't tell us everything and that I should simply run it without
setting up environments, etc. When I do, I get the same result (500 internal
error).

I tried setting up ScriptLog to see what is going on, but since it's a
binary, it doesn't produce any logs out of it. I ran 'ldd' on 'listinfo' and
'admin', etc. to see if I'm missing any libraries, which I am not.

I'm just stuck here.

Derek
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Re: [Mailman-Users] free Mailman hosting

2009-06-22 Thread Ed's Shop
<>

Keep in mind Antonio, you get EXACTLY what you 'pay' for!!

Ed
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Internal 500 Error (Ubuntu jaunty / Mailman 2.1.12/ Python 2.6.2)

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dev Guy wrote:

>Hi,
>I've tried to look this up on the lists, forums, etc. but have failed to
>find anything that resolves this issue, so forgive me if I have missed a
>solution mentioned elsewhere.
>
>I have recently upgraded my Ubuntu distribution to Jaunty. This upgrade
>included an upgrade on Mailman, Python and Apache2.
>
>I'm currently running the following versions:
>
>ii  apache2   2.2.11-2ubuntu2.1
>Apache HTTP Server metapackage
>ii  apache2-mpm-prefork   2.2.11-2ubuntu2.1
>Apache HTTP Server - traditional non-threade
>ii  python2.6 2.6.2-0ubuntu1
>   An interactive high-level object-oriented la
>ii  listadmin 2.40-2.2
>   command line mailman moderator queue manipul
>ii  mailman   1:2.1.12-1
>   Powerful, web-based mailing list manager
>
>I have looked through the logs, but nothing seems to indicate anything
>special, aside from the expressive line:
>
>
>Premature end of script headers: admin
>
>
>In my Apache2 error log file (turned logging to 'debug' level).
>
>Running the 'admin' or 'listinfo' scripts from the shell gives me this:
>
>
># ./listinfo
>Content-type: text/html
>
>Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
>Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
>We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>
>Please inform the webmaster for this site of this
>problem.  Printing of traceback and other system information has been
>explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the
>Mailman error logs.
>-
>
>I ran 'check_perms' and while there were errors it found, they were all
>fixed. This had no effect on the problem. Mailman appears to be operational
>otherwise. Emails are sent and received without issues. I can admin the site
>using the 'listadmin' tools. However, the web interface is completely
>broken.
>
>What am I missing?


The OP and I had a conversation on the #mailman channel at freenode. We
determined that he could successfully run

sudo -u www-data /bin/sh -c "PATH_INFO=;export
PATH_INFO;HTTP_HOST=www.example.com;export
HTTP_HOST;REQUEST_METHOD=GET;export REQUEST_METHOD;
/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo"

(with appropriate changes to host and path) from the command line and
the listinfo CGI would produce appropriate output, so the problem is
apparently some issue with the way apache is (or isn't) invoking the
CGI. The OP says suEXEC is not involved, and I had no other ideas.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] footers and members of the list

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hal Huntley wrote:
>
>Thank you for that information.  I gave that URL idea a try and if I
>happened to be logged in as a list administrator for a list, I got a list of
>members.  I also tried getting a roster by going to a
>".../mailman/roster/" of a list I am a member of but was not
>logged in.  I got an "authentication failed."  error message.  Since one
>needs to be a member of the list to see the members, that makes sense.


Yeah, I always forget about that. I think if you go to a members only
page without being logged in, you should get a login page and then be
directed back to the original after login. It works that way for
private archives (and the admin and admindb interfaces) and the user
specific options page, but not for the roster. Gets me every time :(

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman repetitively trying to drop addresses

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ralph Prichard wrote:
>
>We imported about 1000 addresses from an old mailing list into a new
>Mailman list, and we were hoping Mailman's bounce processing would start
>removing any addresses that are clearly no longer valid.  This is old
>info; if we've got a bad address, we just want it dropped without any
>further resuscitation efforts.  Here are our bounce processing settings:
>
>bounce_processing = Yes
>bounce_score_threshold = 3.0
>bounce_info_stale_after = 21
>bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0
>bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 7
>bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner = Yes
>bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = Yes
>bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = Yes
>
>These settings have been adjusted a few times, but not by any radical
>amount.  I'm sure I also inadvertantly dropped the
>"bounce_score_threshold" from 3.5 to 3.0 while the latest message was
>still being distributed.  However, the previous message exhibited the
>same problematic behavior I'm seeing today, and the values were all left
>alone during that period.
>
>
>After messages went out that resulted in bounce scores over the
>threshold, there were a couple of issues...
>
>
>1) Mailman tried to send a notification to the bad addresses indicating
>that they've been dropped from the mailing list.  It does so despite the
>fact that "send_goodbye_msg" is set to "no".  So my first question is
>almost identical to this one:
>
>http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-August/052688.html
>
>Does anyone know how to get the bounce processing system to respect the
>"send_goodbye_msg" value, while still sending the moderators/list owners
>notification that an address has been dropped?


You can modify the code. In the definition of the
sendNextNotification() method, see

self.ApprovedDeleteMember(
member, 'disabled address',
admin_notif=self.bounce_notify_owner_on_removal,
userack=1)

and change userack=1 to userack=0 if you want no notice or to
userack=None (or just remove it) to use the list's send_goodbye_msg
setting.

However, what's the harm? If the address is truly undeliverable, it's
just one more residual bounce. If not, the user may possibly notified
of a problem.



>2) Mailman tried to drop 2 addresses (out of an apparent list of 55 bad
>addresses) over and over again, until after 10 attempts, when the
>BounceRunner stopped.  (Nothing at all seemed to happen to the other 53
>addresses.)  The first notification that the list owners received
>regarding the drop attempts referenced the actual message that a list
>member sent.  But the next 10 notifications referred to the fact that
>the "You have been unsubscribed from the 'somelist' mailing list"
>messages were _also_ bouncing.  (Which is another reason I'd like to
>suppress those messages from ever being sent in the first place.)
>


This is a bug in Mailman 2.1.11 that is fixed in 2.1.12 (it only occurs
if bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings is 0). The attached patch.txt file
contains a patch to Bouncer.py that will fix it.

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=== modified file 'Mailman/Bouncer.py'
--- Mailman/Bouncer.py  2008-06-20 19:47:28 +
+++ Mailman/Bouncer.py  2009-02-16 16:53:20 +
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-# Copyright (C) 1998-2008 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
+# Copyright (C) 1998-2009 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 #
 # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
 # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
@@ -163,8 +163,10 @@
 # We've set/changed bounce info above.  We now need to tell the
 # MemberAdaptor to set/update it.  We do it here in case the
 # MemberAdaptor stores bounce info externally to the list object to
-# be sure updated information is stored.
-self.setBounceInfo(member, info)
+# be sure updated information is stored, but we have to be sure the
+# member wasn't removed.
+if self.isMember(member):
+self.setBounceInfo(member, info)
 
 def disableBouncingMember(self, member, info, msg):
 # Initialize their confirmation cookie.  If we do it when we get the

=== modified file 'NEWS'
--- NEWS2009-02-14 22:25:29 +
+++ NEWS2009-02-16 16:53:20 +
@@ -92,6 +92,9 @@
 
 - Recognize a couple more bounces.
 
+- Fixed a bug introduced in 2.1.11 which would attempt to store bounce info
+  for a member just deleted if bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings is zero.
+
  i18n
 
 - Updated Dutch, Catalan and Polish translations.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to deal with qfiles/bad/*.psv?

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Benjamin Lotto wrote:

>I've been using mailman for several years and have recently moved to a  
>new machine.  Something funny happened, and I had a lot of files built  
>up in the qfiles/* directories.  I restarted mailman with
>
>mailmanctl -s -q start
>
>and move everything was cleared out.  There are six .psv files in  
>qfiles/bad and I have no idea what to do with them.  I've been poking  
>around the web and various documentation and can't figure it out.   
>Help, please?
>
>Using Mailman version: 2.1.12


This is a recent Mailman feature. In older Mailman, when a runner
encountered an exception in dequeueing a message, the fact was logged
and the message discarded. Now, depending on settings, it may be saved
as a .psv file in qfiles/bad/

See the comments in Defaults.py for the settings
QRUNNER_SAVE_BAD_MESSAGES, BAD_SHUNT_STALE_AFTER and
BAD_SHUNT_ARCHIVE_DIRECTORY.

With default settings, assuming you've got a 2.1.12 Mailman crontab,
these files are removed after 7 days.

You can look at them with bin/dumpdb -p to see what's in them assuming
they can be unpickled at all. There are also messages in Mailman's
error log saying why they are there.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] free Mailman hosting

2009-06-22 Thread Brian Carpenter
No you but you can check us out at http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html. Our
prices start out at $4 per month per list.

Have a great week.  :^)

Regards,
Brian Carpenter
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> -Original Message-
> From: mailman-users-bounces+brian=emwd@python.org [mailto:mailman-
> users-bounces+brian=emwd@python.org] On Behalf Of Antonio Piu
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:11 PM
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] free Mailman hosting
> 
> Hi all!
> Does anybody know some free Mailman hosting services?
> I could not find anything.
> 
> Thank you for your help.
> 
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman repetitively trying to drop addresses

2009-06-22 Thread Ralph Prichard

We imported about 1000 addresses from an old mailing list into a new
Mailman list, and we were hoping Mailman's bounce processing would start
removing any addresses that are clearly no longer valid.  This is old
info; if we've got a bad address, we just want it dropped without any
further resuscitation efforts.  Here are our bounce processing settings:

bounce_processing = Yes
bounce_score_threshold = 3.0
bounce_info_stale_after = 21
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 7
bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner = Yes
bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = Yes
bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = Yes

These settings have been adjusted a few times, but not by any radical
amount.  I'm sure I also inadvertantly dropped the
"bounce_score_threshold" from 3.5 to 3.0 while the latest message was
still being distributed.  However, the previous message exhibited the
same problematic behavior I'm seeing today, and the values were all left
alone during that period.


After messages went out that resulted in bounce scores over the
threshold, there were a couple of issues...


1) Mailman tried to send a notification to the bad addresses indicating
that they've been dropped from the mailing list.  It does so despite the
fact that "send_goodbye_msg" is set to "no".  So my first question is
almost identical to this one:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-August/052688.html

Does anyone know how to get the bounce processing system to respect the
"send_goodbye_msg" value, while still sending the moderators/list owners
notification that an address has been dropped?


2) Mailman tried to drop 2 addresses (out of an apparent list of 55 bad
addresses) over and over again, until after 10 attempts, when the
BounceRunner stopped.  (Nothing at all seemed to happen to the other 53
addresses.)  The first notification that the list owners received
regarding the drop attempts referenced the actual message that a list
member sent.  But the next 10 notifications referred to the fact that
the "You have been unsubscribed from the 'somelist' mailing list"
messages were _also_ bouncing.  (Which is another reason I'd like to
suppress those messages from ever being sent in the first place.)

But back to the failure to drop the address...

There are the 11 restarts shown in the qrunner log file:

Excerpt from /var/log/mailman/qrunner:
==
Jun 22 14:58:16 2009 (2047) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 2073, sig: None, sts: 1, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1)
[restarting]
Jun 22 14:58:16 2009 (4880) BounceRunner qrunner started.
Jun 22 15:13:16 2009 (2047) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 4880, sig: None, sts: 1, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1)
[restarting]
Jun 22 15:13:16 2009 (5102) BounceRunner qrunner started.

...7 more occurrences removed (each BounceRunner startup has a different
PID, if that's what the number in the bracket represents)...

Jun 22 17:13:18 2009 (2047) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5522, sig: None, sts: 1, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1)
[restarting]
Jun 22 17:13:18 2009 (5574) BounceRunner qrunner started.
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 (2047) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5574, sig: None, sts: 1, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1)
[restarting]
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 (2047) Qrunner BounceRunner reached maximum restart
limit of 10, not restarting.


There appears to be more interesting information in other files in
/var/log/mailman.  I'll include one excerpt from the "errors" file
below.  If anyone thinks the other information would be handy, please
let me know and I'll try to trim it down a bit before sending a copy
along.


Excerpt from /var/log/mailman/error:

Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574): Traceback (most recent call last):
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):   File
"/var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in 
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):  main()
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):   File
"/var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):  qrunner.run()
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):   File
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 88, in run
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):  self._cleanup()
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):   File
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 263, in _cleanup
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):  BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):   File
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 137, in _cleanup
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):  self._register_bounces()
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):   File
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py", line 125, in
_register_bounces
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):  mlist.registerBounce(addr, msg,
day=day)
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrunner(5574):   File
"/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 167, in registerBounce
Jun 22 17:28:18 2009 qrun

[Mailman-Users] How to deal with qfiles/bad/*.psv?

2009-06-22 Thread Benjamin Lotto
I've been using mailman for several years and have recently moved to a  
new machine.  Something funny happened, and I had a lot of files built  
up in the qfiles/* directories.  I restarted mailman with


mailmanctl -s -q start

and move everything was cleared out.  There are six .psv files in  
qfiles/bad and I have no idea what to do with them.  I've been poking  
around the web and various documentation and can't figure it out.   
Help, please?


Using Mailman version: 2.1.12

Many thanks,
-Ben
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Re: [Mailman-Users] footers and members of the list

2009-06-22 Thread Hal Huntley
> Hal Huntley wrote:
> 
> >We have a request from a list administrator asking if he can have the all
> >the members of the list listed in the footer of the message. This list is
> >under Mailman 2.1.9.
> >
> >This isn't a "personalization" listing with just the name of the member
> >subscribing. He wants all the messages going out to have all the list
> >members in the footer.
> >
> >Is there a variable that can handle that? Or must the list maintainer just
> >add the names by hand?  He may be content with just names or email
> >addresses.
> 
> 
> No, there is no variable that can handle that, but one could easily put
> a link to the list's roster page in the footer which I think would be
> much better than putting everyone's address in which raises serious
> privacy concerns should such a message be forwarded off list.
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===
Mark,

Thank you for that information.  I gave that URL idea a try and if I
happened to be logged in as a list administrator for a list, I got a list of
members.  I also tried getting a roster by going to a
".../mailman/roster/" of a list I am a member of but was not
logged in.  I got an "authentication failed."  error message.  Since one
needs to be a member of the list to see the members, that makes sense.

One could set the URL to point to the ".../listinfo/" page where
the person could enter their email address and password to get the list
members, but I think the list admininstrator wants something a bit easier to
get the names.

I will share your thoughts with the list administrator about not wanting to
do that anyway due to privacy concerns.  Excellent point.

Hal


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[Mailman-Users] Internal 500 Error (Ubuntu jaunty / Mailman 2.1.12 / Python 2.6.2)

2009-06-22 Thread Dev Guy
Hi,
I've tried to look this up on the lists, forums, etc. but have failed to
find anything that resolves this issue, so forgive me if I have missed a
solution mentioned elsewhere.

I have recently upgraded my Ubuntu distribution to Jaunty. This upgrade
included an upgrade on Mailman, Python and Apache2.

I'm currently running the following versions:

ii  apache2   2.2.11-2ubuntu2.1
Apache HTTP Server metapackage
ii  apache2-mpm-prefork   2.2.11-2ubuntu2.1
Apache HTTP Server - traditional non-threade
ii  python2.6 2.6.2-0ubuntu1
   An interactive high-level object-oriented la
ii  listadmin 2.40-2.2
   command line mailman moderator queue manipul
ii  mailman   1:2.1.12-1
   Powerful, web-based mailing list manager

I have looked through the logs, but nothing seems to indicate anything
special, aside from the expressive line:


Premature end of script headers: admin


In my Apache2 error log file (turned logging to 'debug' level).

Running the 'admin' or 'listinfo' scripts from the shell gives me this:


# ./listinfo
Content-type: text/html

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this
problem.  Printing of traceback and other system information has been
explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the
Mailman error logs.
-

I ran 'check_perms' and while there were errors it found, they were all
fixed. This had no effect on the problem. Mailman appears to be operational
otherwise. Emails are sent and received without issues. I can admin the site
using the 'listadmin' tools. However, the web interface is completely
broken.

What am I missing?

Thanks!

Derek Morrison
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[Mailman-Users] free Mailman hosting

2009-06-22 Thread Antonio Piu

Hi all!
Does anybody know some free Mailman hosting services?
I could not find anything.

Thank you for your help.

Antonio
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve all held?

2009-06-22 Thread Алексей Алтухов

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Alexei Altuhov wrote:
  

Unfortunately I don't have access to the web interface, because of the
Group mismatch error.




We can help you fix that. How did you install Mailman? From our source
or from a vendors package?

Give us the details, and we'll try to help.

  

Mailman has been installed by one of our admins from the repository, as usual.
The thing is, that he has installed Asterix afterwards and as I understood from 
now on all cgi scripts are run from the asterix group rather than the mailman 
one.

Is it possible to change that or divide, which cgi scripts will be executed 
from the mailman group and which ones from the mailman - I couldn't figure out 
by myself and that left me with the command line administration.

So, if you need more details in order to resolve this, I'd be happy to provide 
it!


Thanks for trying to help,

Alexei.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] footers and members of the list

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hal Huntley wrote:

>We have a request from a list administrator asking if he can have the all
>the members of the list listed in the footer of the message. This list is
>under Mailman 2.1.9.
>
>This isn't a "personalization" listing with just the name of the member
>subscribing. He wants all the messages going out to have all the list
>members in the footer.
>
>Is there a variable that can handle that? Or must the list maintainer just
>add the names by hand?  He may be content with just names or email
>addresses.


No, there is no variable that can handle that, but one could easily put
a link to the list's roster page in the footer which I think would be
much better than putting everyone's address in which raises serious
privacy concerns should such a message be forwarded off list.

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[Mailman-Users] footers and members of the list

2009-06-22 Thread Hal Huntley
We have a request from a list administrator asking if he can have the all
the members of the list listed in the footer of the message. This list is
under Mailman 2.1.9.

This isn't a "personalization" listing with just the name of the member
subscribing. He wants all the messages going out to have all the list
members in the footer.

Is there a variable that can handle that? Or must the list maintainer just
add the names by hand?  He may be content with just names or email
addresses.

Regards,

Hal Huntley
SRI International

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve all held?

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Алексей Алтухов wrote:
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> Alexei Altuhov wrote:
>>  
>>> Unfortunately I don't have access to the web interface, because of the
>>> Group mismatch error.
>>> 
>>
>>
>> We can help you fix that. How did you install Mailman? From our source
>> or from a vendors package?
>>
>> Give us the details, and we'll try to help.
>>
>>   
> Mailman has been installed by one of our admins from the repository, as
> usual.


This seems to say you installed someone's package from a package
repository as opposed to installing from our source.


> The thing is, that he has installed Asterix afterwards and as I
> understood from now on all cgi scripts are run from the asterix group
> rather than the mailman one.
> 
> Is it possible to change that or divide, which cgi scripts will be
> executed from the mailman group and which ones from the mailman - I
> couldn't figure out by myself and that left me with the command line
> administration.


If you installed from source, the way to fix this is to re-run configure
with the addition of the option "--with-cgi-gid=asterix" and then run
"make install". The alternative is to configure the web server (is this
Asterix?) to run the Mailman CGI wrappers as the group they expect, but
I gather this is not possible in your case.

Most packaged versions of Mailman have a way to tell the CGI wrappers
what group to expect, but how you do that is specific to the package.
You need to ask the packager. I.e., if this is a RedHat or CentOS rpm,
ask on a RedHat list or see other RedHat support resources; if Debian or
Ubuntu, check those support resources, etc.

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