Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

2010-06-17 Thread Paul Flower 
A big thank you to everyone who responded your assistance was greatly 
appreciated.

The problem has been resolved with the insertion of SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10 into 
mm_cfg.py

Once again thank you all.

Regards
Paul

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:20 PM
To: Paul Flower
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

On 6/17/2010 7:13 AM, Paul Flower wrote:
> Should have put this in the first post.
> 
> Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: 
> to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members", 
> ctladdr= (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, 
> mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent


That is the delivery from sendmail to Mailman of the original incoming
post. It has nothing directly to do with the delivery of the outgoing
post to the 152 recipients.

What is in the sendmail log for the delivery from Mailman? Is Mailman
even delivering to this sendmail (is SMTPHOST set to other than
'localhost' in mm_cfg.py)?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

2010-06-17 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 6/17/2010 7:13 AM, Paul Flower wrote:
> Should have put this in the first post.
> 
> Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: 
> to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members", 
> ctladdr= (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, 
> mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent


That is the delivery from sendmail to Mailman of the original incoming
post. It has nothing directly to do with the delivery of the outgoing
post to the 152 recipients.

What is in the sendmail log for the delivery from Mailman? Is Mailman
even delivering to this sendmail (is SMTPHOST set to other than
'localhost' in mm_cfg.py)?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt 
* Paul Flower :
> Should have put this in the first post.
> 
> Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: 
> to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members", 
> ctladdr= (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, 
> mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

And after that? That's goes INTO mailman, and causes the admin mail
"there's sth to approve"

Note the timestamp: 20:23:42 + 14.395 < 20:23:58 

Please do grep for the messageid: 001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au

> > Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599)
> > <001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips,
> > completed in 14.395 seconds
> 
> And in your MTA's logs?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

2010-06-17 Thread Paul Flower 
Should have put this in the first post.

Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: 
to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members", 
ctladdr= (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, 
mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

Regards
Paul

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Hildebrandt
Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2010 9:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

* Paul Flower :

> Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599)
> <001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips,
> completed in 14.395 seconds

And in your MTA's logs?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe in Footer - was: How deleteattechment file ATT00xxx.txt ?

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt 
* Mark Sapiro :

> Mailman has no "one click unsubscribe" function. 

It would make sense, though

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe in Footer - was: How deleteattechment file ATT00xxx.txt ?

2010-06-17 Thread Mark Sapiro 
westernz wrote:
>
>But i have a new problem about unsubscribe.
>I tried the like you gave me and it appear a big page overfirefox.
>And a small over IE.
>I need only let user unsubscribe and no more.
>
>you can see page here (if it's work)
>Try with firefox
>http://lists.an16.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/photo/vrac%40an16.fr
>
>How solve ?
>If possible i need a very simple : he clic, it's change on : nomail -U


Mailman has no "one click unsubscribe" function. You have to create
your own CGI or PHP, etc. script to do the unsubscribe or setting to
nomail (see ) and link to that in the
footer as I suggested at
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

2010-06-17 Thread Steff Watkins 


> -Original Message-
> From: mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org
> [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org] On
Behalf Of
> Paul Flower
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:55 PM
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
>
> Problem is this:
> 
> 
> 
> I can create a new mailing list no problems and subscribe a handful of
> users
> to it and send out email without any dramas but as soon as I import
the
> entire mailing list subscribers (152 members so not big by any stretch
of
> the imagination) nothing goes out. It all appears to work fine but no
> emails go out. 

Immediate diagnostics, as others have suggested, involve looking at the
logfiles for your MTA and checking that they have actually been "sent".

It could be that your network provider has a mechanism for
side-spooling/delaying/blackholing email subsmissions to large numbers
of recipients. So sending to 20 addresses would be OK, but one you start
sending to more than that the email is automatically "quarantined" in
the event that it may prove to be spam.

Check with your network provider to make sure that there are no "limits"
in place that may have delayed your outbound emails. Also check with
your local system's mail spool and make sure that the emails aren't all
sat in an outbound queue waiting to be cleared/sent.

Good luck,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

2010-06-17 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 6/17/2010 6:33 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> * Paul Flower :
> 
>> Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599)
>> <001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips,
>> completed in 14.395 seconds
> 
> And in your MTA's logs?
> 


As Ralf suggests, this is now a sendmail issue. Mailman has successfully
delivered the mail to sendmail per the above. How does sendmail deliver?
does it deliver directly or via a smarthost. If it is via a smarthost,
it is possible that the mail is being delivered to and relayed by
sendmail as a single message with 152 RCPTs, and the smarthost doesn't
accept that many RCPTs. If that is the case, setting say

SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10

or so in mm_cfg.py may help.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe in Footer - was: How delete attechment file ATT00xxx.txt ?

2010-06-17 Thread westernz 

Thanks, i will try soon.

But i have a new problem about unsubscribe.
I tried the like you gave me and it appear a big page overfirefox.
And a small over IE.
I need only let user unsubscribe and no more.

you can see page here (if it's work)
Try with firefox
http://lists.an16.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/photo/vrac%40an16.fr

How solve ?
If possible i need a very simple : he clic, it's change on : nomail -U

Have a nice day.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt 
* Paul Flower :

> Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599)
> <001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips,
> completed in 14.395 seconds

And in your MTA's logs?

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[Mailman-Users] sendmail issues

2010-06-17 Thread Paul Flower 
Apologies if this problem has been dealt with before but I am unable to find
an answer anywhere in the archives.

 

Problem is this:

 

I can create a new mailing list no problems and subscribe a handful of users
to it and send out email without any dramas but as soon as I import the
entire mailing list subscribers (152 members so not big by any stretch of
the imagination) nothing goes out. It all appears to work fine but no emails
go out. This is driving me nuts so any help would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599)
<001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips,
completed in 14.395 seconds

 

Mailman post log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) post to members from
p...@amdaat.com.au, size=24613,
message-id=<001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au>, success

 

Regards

Paul 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to know what announce was sent?

2010-06-17 Thread alexander 

alexan...@nautae.eti.brweote:

I'm looking forward an way to know what lists was used in a specific day.


Sorry, never mind, I was looking in the wrong path, sorry.

Mailman logs is fine to what I need.

Thank you!

abs
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to know what announce was sent?

2010-06-17 Thread alexander 

Mailman's 'post' log contains an entry like


Ok, I'm gonna check it, but all my mailman logs are empty... even now  
when I've made a test only to see the logs...


Maybe I misconfigured something... but what?

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