[Mailman-Users] Re: Need to add two addresses to a bunch of lists as allowed senders.
I used to allow 'accept_these_nonmembers' for discussion list members who just couldn't seem to remember their subscription address. This was true even when replying to a post due to forwards they had set up. Then we reached the point that most of the members had multiple addresses and a majority wanted multiple 'accept_' addresses. Maintenance of those addresses became a major headache, primarily because there is apparently no way to associate a name with an address in the 'accept_' list. Also, members would leave by unsubbing their primary address but had no way to delete their 'accept_' addresses. These are discussion groups for membership organizations, so I finally put my foot down and said "no alternate addresses", and somehow everyone manages to remember their subscription address. The only reason I use 'accept_' addresses is for temporary special cases like non-members involved in special projects. -Chip- On 4/10/2021 8:48 AM, Christian Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: Hi Jürgen You need to get the other addresses of the users into your server anyway. I do not think a user would subscribe with an address and then again with the other - and probably he doesn’t even know that there is a possibility of a „silent“ subscription. You have to maintain the list of „non-members whose messages are accepted“ the same way. I do not see any automatism. Your „work load“ remains the same. When a message needs moderation (because someone is subscribed with a different address), I can manually add his „new“ address with the „no message“ option ticked. Our server does not send automated membership reminders or password reminders. Grüsse aus Helvetien Christian -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Need to add two addresses to a bunch of lists as allowed senders.
Just a couple of minor points: If a user has multiple addresses, some set to no mail, all the addresses will receive monthly password reminder email unless the address's options have Get password reminder email for this list? set to No. When moderating a held nonmember post there is a checkbox and radio buttons Add marksap...@gmail.com to one of these sender filters: Accepts Holds Rejects Discards so it is simple to add the address to one of the *_these_nonmembers lists while acting on the held message. Adding the address as a member and then setting it to nomail and perhaps setting its Get password reminder email for this list? option is two or three more steps. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Upgrading mailman from 2 to 3 and private archives
Bader, Robert (Bob) writes: > I am not sure how many messages they linked but I suspect it is a > lot. They have lists they use for their groups, and will link to > the messages on their internal website. But if that is the only > option then that is what they will need to do if they want to keep > the links. The mbox files should retain the Message-ID field, so it is probably not hard to write a program to create these links automatically. Exactly what the program should do depends on how you propose to do this. There are a couple of approaches, such as using HTTP redirects in the webserver, or rewriting the index files in the archives. I will not have time to do it myself until the end of April, but maybe you can find someone else to do it sooner. Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Need to add two addresses to a bunch of lists as allowed senders.
Hi Jürgen You need to get the other addresses of the users into your server anyway. I do not think a user would subscribe with an address and then again with the other - and probably he doesn’t even know that there is a possibility of a „silent“ subscription. You have to maintain the list of „non-members whose messages are accepted“ the same way. I do not see any automatism. Your „work load“ remains the same. When a message needs moderation (because someone is subscribed with a different address), I can manually add his „new“ address with the „no message“ option ticked. Our server does not send automated membership reminders or password reminders. Grüsse aus Helvetien Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org > Am 10.04.2021 um 14:27 schrieb Juergen Dollinger > : > > Christian Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: >> I never really understood the option ‘accept_these_nonmembers’ - but I >> would anyway not use it. > > Many people have more than one E-mailadress, but the other > E-mailadresses are forwarded. If they write to a Mailing list they > don't remember which adress they used to subscribe. If the mailing > list is writing for subscribers only (which I recommend in most cases) > the moderator gets a lot to moderate until most of these extra adresses > are allowed to post to the list. > > I usually have long lists there. > > For the same reason users often have problems when unsubscribing. > >> If these are users who should be able to post messages but not want to >> receive any messages, I would add them to the subscriber list and set >> their mail delivery to "no message". > > Should do nearly the same thing, but brakes the principle that all > subscribers subcribed theirselfs with a will of its own. Do these > users get an extra monthly membership reminder? > > -- > \ J. Dollinger FAW/n Ulm |zeitnot@irc| http://www.home.pages.de/~zeitnot/ > \"What're quantum mechanics?" -- "I don't know. People who/ > \repair quantums, I suppose." (Terry Pratchett, Eric) / > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ >https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Need to add two addresses to a bunch of lists as allowed senders.
Christian Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: > I never really understood the option ‘accept_these_nonmembers’ - but I > would anyway not use it. Many people have more than one E-mailadress, but the other E-mailadresses are forwarded. If they write to a Mailing list they don't remember which adress they used to subscribe. If the mailing list is writing for subscribers only (which I recommend in most cases) the moderator gets a lot to moderate until most of these extra adresses are allowed to post to the list. I usually have long lists there. For the same reason users often have problems when unsubscribing. > If these are users who should be able to post messages but not want to > receive any messages, I would add them to the subscriber list and set > their mail delivery to "no message". Should do nearly the same thing, but brakes the principle that all subscribers subcribed theirselfs with a will of its own. Do these users get an extra monthly membership reminder? -- \ J. Dollinger FAW/n Ulm |zeitnot@irc| http://www.home.pages.de/~zeitnot/ \"What're quantum mechanics?" -- "I don't know. People who/ \repair quantums, I suppose." (Terry Pratchett, Eric) / -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
