[Mailman-Users] Re: Sorting list names

2021-11-16 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 11/16/21 6:49 AM, Scott High wrote:


Running Mailman 2.1.12, on the Virtualmin Mailman Mailing Lists UI, I'm simply 
trying to sort the list names alphabetically. Is this possible? I can't for the 
life of me find it if it is a UI option. Does it need to be sorted at the file 
system level or database level for the UI to reflect it, maybe? Thanks for any 
help!



Specifically what UI are you looking at. If you are talking about the 
listinfo page, they should be sorted. E.g. 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/



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[Mailman-Users] Re: Sorting list names

2021-11-16 Thread Jon Baron
On the general options page, there is a setting near the end called
"Maximum number of members to show on one page of the Membership
List". If you set it to more than the number of list members, you will
get an list alphabetized by emails. (But you want "list names", and
I'm not sure what that is.) And I do not recommend my first option if
you have a few thousand list members. I set mine to 500, and then I
get one page for each letter of the alphabet.

An alternative is to run /usr/lib/mailman/bin (on my machine, YMMV)
and run

./list_members [name of mailing list] > [some file]

You can restrict that to active members. (Look at the options for
./list_members by just typing that name.)

That list is also alphabetical by email address. I do not require
actual names of subscribers (and I don't know if that is possible).

Jon

On 11/16/21 14:49, Scott High wrote:
> Hi, new user, forgive me if old issue, but I've searched FAQ and wiki and 
> can't find answer.
> 
> Running Mailman 2.1.12, on the Virtualmin Mailman Mailing Lists UI, I'm 
> simply trying to sort the list names alphabetically. Is this possible? I 
> can't for the life of me find it if it is a UI option. Does it need to be 
> sorted at the file system level or database level for the UI to reflect it, 
> maybe? Thanks for any help!
> 
> 
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Messages from non-members

2021-11-16 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 11/16/21 5:04 AM, Christian Buser via Mailman-Users wrote:


One attachment to the notification is a message (message #3) with the
subject
"confirm d1c110e1babc8c9b34cd40a17c0ab8e0770e8617"
which tells me:

If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
Mailman will discard the held message.  Do this if the message is
spam.  If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header
with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting
to the list.  The Approved: header can also appear in the first line
of the body of the reply.

Okay, I reply to the message. In earlier times, I got a response that
the message was sent into the Nirvana - or that the user had deleted it
himself using the link he received in message #1

However something seems to be broken now.

- The held message is no longer deleted when I reply to the "confirmation".
- I no longer receive a notification that the message was no longer on hold.
- The message remains in hold, even after the "confirmation" was replied to.



It appears that you are doing the correct thing, i.e. replying to the 
attached message with reply addressed to the listname-request address 
and Subject: confirm d1c110e1babc8c9b34cd40a17c0ab8e0770e8617 (with the 
possible addition of an Re:, Aw:, etc prefix). If you are doing that and 
it doesn't work, I don't know why.


See https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20and%20CPanel

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[Mailman-Users] Re: web interface error after 2.1.36 update

2021-11-16 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 11/15/21 12:45 PM, dde...@cyberthugs.com wrote:


Hello...  just ran into an issue after what I thought was a successful
routine update to mailman 2.1.36 (from .29? iirc) on Friday.


Mailman 2.1.36 has this bug and should not be used. See the announcement 
for Mailman 2.1.37 which was released later the same day to fix this. 
See the entire thread at 
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/thread/I2X7PSFXIEPLM3UMKZMGOEO3UFYETGRL/


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[Mailman-Users] web interface error after 2.1.36 update

2021-11-16 Thread ddewey


Hello...  just ran into an issue after what I thought was a successful
routine update to mailman 2.1.36 (from .29? iirc) on Friday.
Everything seemed fine after the update (following the
config/make/make install) and I hadn't had occasion to log into the
admin interface until today when I hit this (apparent) bug. Mail is
being received and delivered just fine. The subscriber interface
appears working.

Simply trying to log into the Admindb user interface... entered my
password and receive 
"Bug in Mailman version 2.1.36
We're sorry, we hit a bug!"

Don't see any obvious permissions errors, nor does check_perms return
anything.

Below is the log output from Mailman error log. Nothing interesting in
the httpd log. Thanks for any pointers!

Nov 15 15:30:58 2021 admin(30830):
 
admin(30830): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.36 -] 
admin(30830): [- Traceback --] 
admin(30830): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(30830):   File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 117, in
run_main
admin(30830): main()
admin(30830):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line
342, in main
admin(30830): print doc.Format()
admin(30830):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py", line
352, in Format
admin(30830): output.append(Container.Format(self, indent))
admin(30830):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py", line
267, in Format
admin(30830): output.append(HTMLFormatObject(item, indent))
admin(30830):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py", line
53, in HTMLFormatObject
admin(30830): return item.Format(indent)
admin(30830):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py", line
445, in Format
admin(30830): % csrf_token(self.mlist, self.contexts, self.user)
admin(30830):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/CSRFcheck.py", line
53, in csrf_token
admin(30830): mac = sha_new(secret + issued).hexdigest()
admin(30830): TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'NoneType'
and 'str'
admin(30830): [- Python Information -] 
admin(30830): sys.version =   2.7.5 (default, Aug 13 2020,
02:51:10) 
[GCC 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-39)] 
admin(30830): sys.executable  =   /usr/bin/python 
admin(30830): sys.prefix  =   /usr 
admin(30830): sys.exec_prefix =   /usr 
admin(30830): sys.path=   ['/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib',
'/usr/local/mailman', '/usr/local/mailman/scripts',
'/usr/lib64/python27.zip', '/usr/lib64/python2.7',
'/usr/lib64/python2.7/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-tk',
'/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-old', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-dynload',
'/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages',
'/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages',
'/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages',
'/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0',
'/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages',
'/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages', '/usr/lib/site-python'] 
admin(30830): sys.platform=   linux2 
admin(30830): [- Environment Variables -] 
admin(30830):   CONTENT_LENGTH: 41 
admin(30830):   CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded 
admin(30830):   SERVER_NAME: list.listdomain.com 
admin(30830):   REMOTE_ADDR: 67.253.227.163 
admin(30830):   PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman 
admin(30830):   REMOTE_PORT: 3777 
admin(30830):   REQUEST_SCHEME: http 
admin(30830):   SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admindb 
admin(30830):   REQUEST_METHOD: POST 
admin(30830):   HTTP_HOST: list.list_domain.com 
admin(30830):   PATH_INFO: /list_name
admin(30830):   SERVER_PORT: 80 
admin(30830):   SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 
admin(30830):   QUERY_STRING:  
admin(30830):   REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admindb/list_name
admin(30830):   HTTP_COOKIE:  
admin(30830):   DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html/list.list_domain.com 
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[Mailman-Users] Sorting list names

2021-11-16 Thread Scott High
Hi, new user, forgive me if old issue, but I've searched FAQ and wiki and can't 
find answer.

Running Mailman 2.1.12, on the Virtualmin Mailman Mailing Lists UI, I'm simply 
trying to sort the list names alphabetically. Is this possible? I can't for the 
life of me find it if it is a UI option. Does it need to be sorted at the file 
system level or database level for the UI to reflect it, maybe? Thanks for any 
help!


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[Mailman-Users] Usubscribe not recognized (was: Messages from non-members)

2021-11-16 Thread Christian Buser via Mailman-Users
Hi Adi

There are several possibilities for this:

1) You use a mail forwarding from address A to address B and try to
unsubscribe for address B instead of address A

2) Your mail server has several domains which are in fact the same -
like gmail.com / googlemail.com, or me.com/mac.com, etc.

3) Your are subscribed for myn...@mail.domain.com and want to
unsubscribe from myn...@domain.com

and possibly more. And:

if you reply to one of the messages in this list, the reply goes to the
author of the message (me, in your case) and not to the list - unless
you use the special command (e.g. in Thunderbird) "Reply to List...".  I
think this message also only went to me, not to the list...

You may want to analyze the mail headers of a list message to find out
what happened. Look for these header lines:
X-Apparently-To:
Received:  (look whether the desination address changed there between
one header and the next) - received lines are read from bottom to top
for chroniological order.

Christian

Adi S schrieb am 16.11.21 um 14:37:
> And I am not a member but still receiving these messages
> I’ve unsubscribed already but still getting message.
> When I try to login to the subscription management, it says there is ’no user 
> found with that email'
>

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[Mailman-Users] Messages from non-members

2021-11-16 Thread Christian Buser via Mailman-Users
Mailman 2.1.35 on cPanel version 98.0.12

The list is set to only accept messages from subscribers

Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit
action is defined (Details for generic_nonmember_action) is set to "Hold"
   
I receive a notification when someone tries to post using a
non-subscriber address.

The non-member receives this message (message #1):

Your mail to 'Infoline' with the subject

    Test non-member

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

    Post by non-member to a members-only list

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
this posting, please visit the following URL:

   
http://x.ch/mailman/confirm/infoline_mus.ch/d1c110e1babc8c9b34cd40a17c0ab8e0770e8617

I (as the owner of the mailing list receive the notification (message
#2) stating:

As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
following mailing list posting:

    List:    infol...@x.ch
    From:    macchrist...@x.ch
    Subject: Test non-member
    Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list

At your convenience, visit:

    http://mus.ch/mailman/admindb/infoline_mus.ch
   
to approve or deny the request.

One attachment to the notification is a message (message #3) with the
subject
"confirm d1c110e1babc8c9b34cd40a17c0ab8e0770e8617"
which tells me:

If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
Mailman will discard the held message.  Do this if the message is
spam.  If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header
with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting
to the list.  The Approved: header can also appear in the first line
of the body of the reply.

Okay, I reply to the message. In earlier times, I got a response that
the message was sent into the Nirvana - or that the user had deleted it
himself using the link he received in message #1

However something seems to be broken now.

- The held message is no longer deleted when I reply to the "confirmation".
- I no longer receive a notification that the message was no longer on hold.
- The message remains in hold, even after the "confirmation" was replied to.

Yes, I can manually "reject" or "discard" the message.

My provider says he has no knowledge about how Mailman on cPanel works,
and I should ask in Mailman-related forums / lists...

Any idea how it can be fixed?

Thank you, Christian 

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