Re: [Mailman-Users] Prepending previous message text to current message

2012-02-28 Thread Atkins, Brian CTR
Very cool. Thanks, Mark. Helpful as always.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:00 PM
To: Atkins, Brian CTR; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Prepending previous message text to current message

Atkins, Brian CTR wrote:
>
>On a related side note: is there a way to easily switch the nomail option for 
>all list subscribers?


The script at <http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/set_nomail.py> can set all 
subscribers to no mail, but setting everyone back the way they were is a 
problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Prepending previous message text to current message

2012-02-28 Thread Atkins, Brian CTR
Never mind. My boneheaded mistake. They changed the header for non-digest users.

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[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+brian.d.atkins=uscg@python.org] On Behalf Of 
Atkins, Brian CTR
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:50 AM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Prepending previous message text to current message

I am having an issue with one of my more active lists whereby the previous 
message text is being prepended to the latest message. The odd thing is that 
the message, as it appears in the list archives is as it should be, though the 
message sent to the subscribers appears as thus:

"This is the previous message sent."
"This is the latest message."
"List footer."

The only anomaly I found with the list was a member with a malformed email 
address, "#u...@domain.com". I have since removed the user yet messages 
continue to appear as I have described.

On a related side note: is there a way to easily switch the nomail option for 
all list subscribers? This would greatly assist me in testing the issue without 
inundating the subscribers with test messages. Normally I would create a new 
list for testing, but since this is the only list that appears to have the 
issue, I need to test against this one.

TIA.

Brian
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[Mailman-Users] Prepending previous message text to current message

2012-02-28 Thread Atkins, Brian CTR
I am having an issue with one of my more active lists whereby the previous 
message text is being prepended to the latest message. The odd thing is that 
the message, as it appears in the list archives is as it should be, though the 
message sent to the subscribers appears as thus:

"This is the previous message sent."
"This is the latest message."
"List footer."

The only anomaly I found with the list was a member with a malformed email 
address, "#u...@domain.com". I have since removed the user yet messages 
continue to appear as I have described.

On a related side note: is there a way to easily switch the nomail option for 
all list subscribers? This would greatly assist me in testing the issue without 
inundating the subscribers with test messages. Normally I would create a new 
list for testing, but since this is the only list that appears to have the 
issue, I need to test against this one.

TIA.

Brian
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only

2011-08-22 Thread Atkins, Brian CTR
OK, I'm very close and have made many of the changes suggested both by Mark and 
from the FAQ. I have one last item I'm having trouble with. I have an explicit 
reply to address in place. If I set the member_moderation_action to 'discard', 
will the person/people in the explicit reply to header still get a copy of the 
message? What about 'reject'?

Thanks,

Brian

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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:03 AM
To: 'm...@msapiro.net'; Mailman-Users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only

Thank you, Mark. This is very, very close to what I need. I appreciate the 
quick and concise reply.

Brian

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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:51 PM
To: Atkins, Brian CTR; Mailman-Users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only

Atkins, Brian CTR wrote:

>I'm trying to create a list so that 1 member and a select group of non-members 
>can send out announcements with the replies coming back to the poster and 
>limit the amount of email that the moderator/poster receives. I also want to 
>have the ability to have members send to the list but messages go to a 
>specific person rather than the list. 


See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9>. That should get you at
least close to what you want.


>I should note that the primary poster is also a moderator, so he receives 2 
>e-mails for every reply, one for the actual reply and another from mailman 
>telling him he has a post that is moderated.
>
>So what I want is:
>
>Announcement:
>Poster => List 
>
>Reply:
>Member => Poster
>
>New message:
>Member => Authorized recipient


This is the tricky part. See below.


>
>What I'm getting is:
>
>Announcement:
>Poster => List
>
>Reply:
>Member => Poster
>Admin message => Moderator

If you set member_moderation_action to Reject or Discard, you won't get
a held message or notice to the moderator.

If you set first_strip_reply_to to Yes, reply_goes_to_list to Explicit
address and reply_to_address as desired, you can get most replies to
go to reply_to_address. This won't be the poster in all cases, but may
be acceptable.

If you rely on users to just "reply", either reply_goes_to_list =
Poster or reply_goes_to_list = Explicit address will be fine. The
problem comes when they "reply all" because that will include the list.


>New message:
>Member => Held for moderation
>Admin message => Moderator


There is no way to send this message to a specific person. What you can
do is described in the FAQ, namely set member_moderation_action to
Reject and set member_moderation_notice to text explaining that the
message should be sent to "Authorized recipient". However, this may
impact the Reply: case

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only

2011-08-22 Thread Atkins, Brian CTR
Thank you, Mark. This is very, very close to what I need. I appreciate the 
quick and concise reply.

Brian

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From: m...@msapiro.net [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:51 PM
To: Atkins, Brian CTR; Mailman-Users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only

Atkins, Brian CTR wrote:

>I'm trying to create a list so that 1 member and a select group of non-members 
>can send out announcements with the replies coming back to the poster and 
>limit the amount of email that the moderator/poster receives. I also want to 
>have the ability to have members send to the list but messages go to a 
>specific person rather than the list. 


See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9>. That should get you at
least close to what you want.


>I should note that the primary poster is also a moderator, so he receives 2 
>e-mails for every reply, one for the actual reply and another from mailman 
>telling him he has a post that is moderated.
>
>So what I want is:
>
>Announcement:
>Poster => List 
>
>Reply:
>Member => Poster
>
>New message:
>Member => Authorized recipient


This is the tricky part. See below.


>
>What I'm getting is:
>
>Announcement:
>Poster => List
>
>Reply:
>Member => Poster
>Admin message => Moderator

If you set member_moderation_action to Reject or Discard, you won't get
a held message or notice to the moderator.

If you set first_strip_reply_to to Yes, reply_goes_to_list to Explicit
address and reply_to_address as desired, you can get most replies to
go to reply_to_address. This won't be the poster in all cases, but may
be acceptable.

If you rely on users to just "reply", either reply_goes_to_list =
Poster or reply_goes_to_list = Explicit address will be fine. The
problem comes when they "reply all" because that will include the list.


>New message:
>Member => Held for moderation
>Admin message => Moderator


There is no way to send this message to a specific person. What you can
do is described in the FAQ, namely set member_moderation_action to
Reject and set member_moderation_notice to text explaining that the
message should be sent to "Authorized recipient". However, this may
impact the Reply: case

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[Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only

2011-08-19 Thread Atkins, Brian CTR
I'm trying to create a list so that 1 member and a select group of non-members 
can send out announcements with the replies coming back to the poster and limit 
the amount of email that the moderator/poster receives. I also want to have the 
ability to have members send to the list but messages go to a specific person 
rather than the list. 

I should note that the primary poster is also a moderator, so he receives 2 
e-mails for every reply, one for the actual reply and another from mailman 
telling him he has a post that is moderated.

So what I want is:

Announcement:
Poster => List 

Reply:
Member => Poster

New message:
Member => Authorized recipient


What I'm getting is:

Announcement:
Poster => List

Reply:
Member => Poster
Admin message => Moderator

New message:
Member => Held for moderation
Admin message => Moderator

Thanks,

Brian 

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RE: [Mailman-Users] urgent: list sends lots of email to list-admin

2004-03-18 Thread Atkins, Brian
Open relay?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rudy Gevaert
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] urgent: list sends lots of email to list-admin


Hi,

Yesterday a list send a lot of mails to the list-admin.  2/3 per
second sometimes.  Now my mail access has been cut of due to that
(what's normal).  What could the problem be?  The installation has run
without trouble for over a year.

I'm using exim and the mailman in Debian Stable

Relevant logs:


2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=student
(student.UGent.be) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=3744
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=student
(student.UGent.be) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=3744
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 => [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006ej-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:15:04 1B3dhA-0006el-00 Completed

(above are subscribers of the list)

a bit later (no logs with guk in during 10 minutes):

mail from "guk": note: nobody sent to guk!

2004-03-17 17:24:12 1B3dq0-0006vo-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=468

sends mail to list admin: 
2004-03-17 17:24:12 1B3dq0-0006vo-00 => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp H=tarzan.ugent.be [157.193.40.45]
2004-03-17 17:24:12 1B3dq0-0006vo-00 Completed
ok

and guk sends again a lot of mails:

2004-03-17 17:24:49 1B3dqb-0006xH-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=632
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqb-0006xJ-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xO-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xQ-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xV-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xb-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xg-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xj-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xr-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqb-0006xH-00 => guk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqb-0006xH-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:50 1B3dqc-0006xw-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqc-0006y1-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqb-0006xJ-00 => guk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqb-0006xJ-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqd-0006yA-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:51 1B3dqd-0006yC-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xO-00 => guk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xO-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xV-00 => guk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xV-00 Completed
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqd-0006yH-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=guk P=local
S=633
2004-03-17 17:24:52 1B3dqc-0006xb-00 => guk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
D=list_admin_director T=list_admin_transport


and that goes on... and on...

What could be caussing this?

Thanks in advance,

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[Mailman-Users] Modifying web pages

2004-03-18 Thread Atkins, Brian
I'm working on building a fresh system with RH9 and MM 2.1.4 to replace our
existing list server running MM 2.0.13.  I'd like to modify the MM web pages
to have the same look and feel as the rest of our site.  I have already
edited the general, subscribe, and options pages, but would like to edit the
rest of the pages as well.  I haven't found any threads pertaining to this
in the archives.

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Problems resolving the hostname?

2004-02-12 Thread Atkins, Brian
Greetings,

I am currently using Mailman 2.0.13, but I am in the process of performing a
fresh installation of 2.1.4 on RedHat 9.  I have the basics complete and I
am having difficulty with the configuration.  When accessing the cgi for
listinfo, etc, the hostname for the links is resolving to
'localhost.localdomain'.  I have the following set in mm_cfg.py:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '###MyHostName###' 
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '###MyHostName###'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

I tried various attempts to set DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST in
Defaults.py as well, but I am still having issues.  Any thoughts?  It's
probably something simple that I'm overlooking...

Brian 

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[Mailman-Users] Removing Icons

2003-09-29 Thread Atkins, Brian
I'm looking to remove the mailman and other icons that show up at the bottom
of the general info, archives, and admin page.  I'm not up on Python yet.
Has anyone attempted this before?  Been successful?

Brian

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Stripping attachments

2003-08-26 Thread Atkins, Brian
Thanks, Brad.  I guess I'll have to upgrade to 2.1 to get that feature.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:04 AM
To: Atkins, Brian
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Stripping attachments


At 8:23 AM -0400 2003/08/26, Atkins, Brian wrote:

>  Oops... forgot to ask with my last post: Is there a way to strip out all
>  attachments?

See the archives.  This is actually a more difficult problem than 
you imagine, for a variety of technical reasons.

The short answer is that if you go into "Content Filtering", and 
click on the button "Should Mailman filter the content of list 
traffic according  to the settings below?" and set it to 
"Yes" and you don't change anything else, then mailman should go 
ahead and strip most things you're likely to see (by default, it will 
only pass messages that are plain text, or MIME bodypart types 
multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative, or text/plain), and it will 
strip text/html to plain text.


See also the FAQ entries at 
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=attachment&querytype=simple&;
casefold=yes&req=search>.

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[Mailman-Users] Stripping attachments

2003-08-26 Thread Atkins, Brian
Oops... forgot to ask with my last post: Is there a way to strip out all
attachments?

Brian

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[Mailman-Users] Hardcoding privacy settings

2003-08-26 Thread Atkins, Brian
Is there a method of hard coding list settings, particularly privacy
settings in Mailman?  I'm using version 2.0.13.

Also, is there a method to force list admins to change passwords at regular
intervals?

Brian Atkins

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