[Mailman-Users] mailman crashed; messages are shunted

2006-05-09 Thread Chuck Vohs
I am running cPanel:
WHM 10.8.0 cPanel 10.8.2-C90
CentOS 4.3 i686 - WHM X v3.1.0

Any message sent to any mailman list on my server gets shunted.  I have tried
reinstalling python, mailman, spamd, rebooting.

Nothing seems to allow a message sent to a list go through.

I had this problem once before, it was a non-ascii character in the footer.
Thanks Mark Sapiro for figuring that out.

Any ideas?
Chuck
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[Mailman-Users] mailman crashed; messages are shunted

2006-05-09 Thread Chuck Vohs
I am running cPanel:
WHM 10.8.0 cPanel 10.8.2-C90
CentOS 4.3 i686 - WHM X v3.1.0

Any message sent to any mailman list on my server gets shunted.  I have tried
reinstalling python, mailman, spamd, rebooting.

Nothing seems to allow a message sent to a list go through.

I had this problem once before, it was a non-ascii character in the footer.
Thanks Mark Sapiro for figuring that out.

Any ideas?
Chuck
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman crashed; messages are shunted

2006-05-09 Thread Chuck Vohs
I reinstalled via the cpanel script.
You are right about the /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty dir.
And about the Windows comparison...to some extent.

Last time this happened, Mark figured out from the error is was the non-ASCII
chars in the footer...I wish it were the same error this time.

It's not:

May 09 15:02:56 2006 (345) Uncaught runner exception: 'function' object has no
attribute 'rfind'
May 09 15:02:56 2006 (345) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111,
in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167,
in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py,
line 130, in _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py,
line 153, in _dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, line 157,
in process
if mlist.require_explicit_destination and \
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 1331, in
HasExplicitDest
last_underscore = listfullname.rfind('_');
AttributeError: 'function' object has no attribute 'rfind'

May 09 15:02:56 2006 (345) SHUNTING:
1147201398.6724019+98a04a4ff5f354b05d088160ac668a7595f5a145




Todd Zullinger wrote:
 Chuck Vohs wrote:
 I am running cPanel:
 WHM 10.8.0 cPanel 10.8.2-C90
 CentOS 4.3 i686 - WHM X v3.1.0

 Any message sent to any mailman list on my server gets shunted.  I
 have tried reinstalling python, mailman, spamd, rebooting.
 
 How'd you reinstall mailman?  Via cPanel or rpm?  I've worked a little
 on a friends cPanel server and they had both the distribution rpm
 package (RH9 was the OS) as well as their own mailman package.  The
 cPanel one is installed in something like /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty.
 
 If you're poking around to find the shunted messages, logs, and bin
 programs (like unshunt).  Just something to keep in mind as it can be
 rather confusing, especially if you post results of commands here that
 show the OS mailman install and it looks good, while the cPanel
 install that's the one you need to fix is still borked.
 
 I get more annoyed every time I have to deal with a cPanel server. :)
 They might as well be a Windows box AFAIAC.  The theory is the same:
 if the GUI works, you're OK.  As soon as it doesn't, you have to do
 all sorts of (what should be unnecessary) digging to figure out how
 they've integrated things into their system.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are lost...I have followed FAQs 3.14

2005-08-23 Thread Chuck Vohs
Getting closer. Thanks.

Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Chuck Vohs wrote:
  

 I have mailman version 2.1.6 installed with cPanel on RH 7.3, sending 
 mail through exim.
   



 I'm not sure if it's relevant, but see
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp
  

Yeah, I had seen that, and they are working on it.  I just was at such a 
lost, I figured I might find some hints or help here.


  

 I have several lists running.  All used to work just fine.  Last 
 week, 2 lists stopped sending mail.  Each responds to commands, but 
 posts are just not sent.
 I can't see where they are dying at.
 Messages sent to the lists by nonmembers are held as pending, and I 
 get an email to approve or reject.  When I approve, the message is 
 never sent.
   


 It seems you're saying that posts are being sent out from lists other
 than the specific 2 lists. If so, then it's probably not a qrunner
 problem unless you're running multiple 'slices' of qrunners and one
 has died.

 Check Mailman's error log.

 Check the mailman qfiles/ directory to see where the messages are
 piling up (shunt, retry, out ?).

 Sometimes a corrupt file will cause a list to shut down in this way.
 Check the files in lists/listname/ for the two lists. In particular,
 if there is a digest.mbox file, try moving it aside and see if that
 helps.
  

Wow, that is good news, they are piling up in qfiles/shunt. So that 
means 1) the messages are getting to the server 2) mailman is trying to 
process them (it has given them really strange file names), so something 
is working, just not 100% yet.
Thanks for the tip!!!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are lost...I have followed FAQs 3.14

2005-08-23 Thread Chuck Vohs


Mark Sapiro wrote:

 The really strange file names are normal.

Somewhere in processing the message, Mailman is encountering an error
which causes the message to be shunted. There should be messages in
Mailman's error log giving more detail.

After the underlying problem is found and resolved, the shunted
messages can be reprocessed with bin/unshunt if desired.
  

Thanks so much Mark.  You are right, in the error log, this entry repeats:

Aug 23 10:29:58 2005 (14333) SHUNTING: 
1124807396.5748971+07b93b33553514b955399dacc91a5ca6df015192
Aug 23 10:34:53 2005 (14333) Uncaught runner exception: ASCII decoding 
error: ordinal not in range(128)
Aug 23 10:34:53 2005 (14333) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, 
line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, 
line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, 
line 73, in _dispose
self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, 
line 131, in process
Decorate.process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py, line 
98, in process
ufooter = unicode(footer, lcset)
UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)

I have tried reinstalling mailman.  I'm not sure what to make of this error.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are lost...I have followed FAQs 3.14

2005-08-23 Thread Chuck Vohs


Mark Sapiro wrote:



It looks like msg_footer (on the list's Non-digest options page), and
possibly also digest_footer (on the list's Digest options page), has a
non-ascii character in it.

  

You rock!
That was it...not sure how that happened, but I deleted the footers, and 
it works fine.
Thanks so much.
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[Mailman-Users] Messages are lost...I have followed FAQs 3.14

2005-08-22 Thread Chuck Vohs
I have followed the steps (great job BTW) at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp and 
I can't find the solution.

I have mailman version 2.1.6 installed with cPanel on RH 7.3, sending 
mail through exim.
I have several lists running.  All used to work just fine.  Last week, 2 
lists stopped sending mail.  Each responds to commands, but posts are 
just not sent.
I can't see where they are dying at.
Messages sent to the lists by nonmembers are held as pending, and I get 
an email to approve or reject.  When I approve, the message is never sent.
Very weird.
Any help, please?
Chuck
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