[Mailman-Users] HELP

[Dave Foran]

I have an issue and I am confused on how to fix the problem

 

I have root access and I can not create a  new list from the web site

 

Any ideas 

 

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[Mailman-Users] mailto: vaild

[Dave Foran]

DISREGARD
Wrong group

THis caommand imbedded in a message does not work when clicking on to reply

Any thoughts

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[Mailman-Users] HELP of sorts

[Dave Foran]

Group
 
I had Mailman installed and running well on my old Fedora Core 3 box
 
I got a new system and install CentOS 5.0 and mailman-2.1.9-4.el5.i386 is
installed and working
 
I ported all the data from /var/lib/mailman/   from the old, to the new
system and it is working well to a point
 
I tried to create a new list from the mailman/admin page and I get an error
I am not authorized to create lists
 
The only issue I see is I have 2 mailman site lists. One that was ported
over and one that got created when mailman starting running on teh new
system
 
Last night I was getting a messge that Oops  we have a bug while trying to
get to the "menu" of public lists. That has cleared up, and now I have the
issue of trying to create a new list but get the above error.
 
 
( I did create the list from the command line so I am out of the water)
 
I thought about deleteing the 2 sitelists, taring the remaining,  and maybe
uninstall and reinstalling mailman,  Create a new site list and un-tar the
remaining back
 
Might some one have some insight on how to proceed to correct my errors
 
THANKS
 
Dave
 
 
 

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[Mailman-Users] Subscriber question

[Dave Foran]

I got this question today


Is it possible as a subscriber to receive messages to the listserv both as
individual emails AND as a daily digest? I'd like to keep current with the
discussion, but archive the daily digest for my reference, which I used to
do with the old list. Can't seem to figure out how to make that happen now.


I assume the only way is to subscribe with a second address


Regards

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

[Dave Foran]

| 
| Dave Foran wrote:
| 
| >Allow me to ask this regarding Archives
| >
| >As stated I have some lists I created to replace what was being done by
| >Smartlist, and the SmartList archive is extensive..  One going back maybe 8
| >years.
| >
| >Is there a feasible way to import the old archives into MailMan archives in
| >some fashion ??
| 
| 
| If you can get the old archives in *nix mbox format, see
| <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq05.001.htp>.
They are plan text persay on a Linux box  Should be easy

Thanks, again

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[Mailman-Users] Archives

[Dave Foran]

Allow me to ask this regarding Archives

As stated I have some lists I created to replace what was being done by
Smartlist, and the SmartList archive is extensive..  One going back maybe 8
years.

Is there a feasible way to import the old archives into MailMan archives in
some fashion ??

I Guess I would like to have a yealry volume..

THANKS 

Dave
 



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>Is it possible to delete Archives from a MailMan List when it is "run" by
cPanel (and how)??


It depends on whether or not you have access to the underlying file system.
If you do,

is relevant. The mailman installation is said to be at
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman.

If you don't have access to the file system and can't enlist the help of
someone who does, you have to delete the list and it's archives and then
recreate the list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam of sorts

[Dave Foran]

 



Quoting Dave Foran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> The lists that are getting the bogus messages have new domain names, 
> but spammers are sending spam to the lists using the old domain. And 
> hence failing.
> 
> The list name that I am tinkering with is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it 
> used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED],  railnet.org and nshore.org are now 
> virtual hosted on my system.

When I moved my lists from my home machine (xcski.com) to a virtual private
server (list.xcski.com), I used postfix's "/etc/postfix/relocated"
>Hmm Wonder if an option like this is available in sendmail..


to cause requests for the old list names to bounce with a message giving the
new list names.  Spammers never read those bounce messages, but real people
might.  You could use that to make sure if people are requesting the old
list address that they get told of the new list address.
> The users have the correct domain names, Tis the spammers still using the
old name



Or if you just want the list to be available at both locations, I imagine
you could just make your own entries in the aliases file (the main one, not
the one mailman manages) for the old location.
> Something tinker with..

Dave


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[Mailman-Users] Spam of sorts

[Dave Foran]

Folks

You may recall over the weekend I was lamenting the fact that my lists are
getting spammed with with replies going back to somewhere (and being
determined as spam by some of the over zealous spam detectors).

So Paul Tomblin, suggested setting the system to discard the messages, and
for the most part that really did the trick..

Well, I am still getting some more, and I know why and hence this question
and comments

I used to run 3 of the lists on a separate RH 7.3 box that also hosted
another sub-domained system connecting via UUCP  Yep UUCP

And that system was getting some much  spam that I moved the mailling lists
to my main system and a new virtual hosted domain
And subsequently moved the offending spam related subdomained system to my
main system. (So that is has to macch a user name in liue of just passing
thru the system)  With me so far ??  I am not.

The lists that are getting the bogus messages have new domain names, but
spammers are sending spam to the lists using the old domain. And hence
failing.

The list name that I am tinkering with is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it used
to be [EMAIL PROTECTED],  railnet.org and nshore.org are now virtual hosted
on my system.

So, is this "legal" in the sense of Mailman on the "General options page

Example
host_name (general): Host name this list prefers for email.   Railnet.org

To also add  nshore.org  so that both valid domain names are there.

host_name (general): Host name this list prefers for email.  Railnet.org,
nshore.org 

Rrdiana.railnet.org is valid,  but rrdiana.nshore.org is also valid to a
point, but.. ???


THANKS

Dave


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Let me try this again ;-)

[Dave Foran]

You are probably correct

But until I get this spa, issue resolved

EVERYTHING goes  ;-)

Very frustrating

I am still getting some junk, but I think it may be some goof send a message
to everyone



Dave



Dave Foran wrote:
>
>What is an 'anonymous' post?
>
>>>As far as I am concerned some robot that has screen scraped an address
and
>sent a message to a list to spam it


Yes, but what characteristics does this message have that would allow
Mailman to recognize it as such and treat it differently from a
message to the list from a human who hapens to be a list member
posting from the wrong address or a non-member sending a 'legitimate'
message?

In other words, you may not want to discard all non-member posts. It
may be better if you can filter the spam ahead of Mailman and then
hold the remaining non-member posts for moderator action.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Let me try this again ;-)

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Mark Sapiro
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Let me try this again ;-)



What is an 'anonymous' post?

>>As far as I am concerned some robot that has screen scraped an address and
sent a message to a list to spam it

Dave




I replied to you on Tuesday. Unfortunately, I neglected to copy the
list on my first reply.

It seems like right now you have Privacy options...->Sender
filters->generic_nonmember_action set to Reject. Set it to Discard.

In any case, the "your post is not allowed" message is due to some
Reject action which if changed to Discard will cause the post to be
silently ignored.

However, as pointed out in other replies, filtering in the MTA ahead of
Mailman is a better approach.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Let me try this again ;-)

[Dave Foran]

Greetings again

As I am totally locked out from send from my own system until time moves on
;-)

Paul Tomblin, replied to me earlier today and yes, all lists were set to
reject, and since
have been set to discard

A good friend gave me his "sorbs" lines for my sendmail.mc and I added them,
but saw nothing

So, in my testing, I removed all the dnl in the lines and viola, I am
rejecting tons of crap.

SO I think, I got things fixed and I hope this is the last of the issues.

My THANKS, to the way questions get answered in a HURRY

THANKS, again

Dave



Dave Foran wrote:
>
>Is there an option to have mailman ignore anonymous posts and not even
>acknowledge the post. Just let it go to /dev/null ??
>
>I have looked and see nothing in simple english..
>
>Right now, I am seriously blacklisted by the anonymous posts being sent by
>spammers and mailman trying to send back a message "your post is not
>allowed"


What is an 'anonymous' post?

I replied to you on Tuesday. Unfortunately, I neglected to copy the
list on my first reply.

It seems like right now you have Privacy options...->Sender
filters->generic_nonmember_action set to Reject. Set it to Discard.

In any case, the "your post is not allowed" message is due to some
Reject action which if changed to Discard will cause the post to be
silently ignored.

However, as pointed out in other replies, filtering in the MTA ahead of
Mailman is a better approach.

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[Mailman-Users] Let me try this again ;-)

[Dave Foran]

 Folks

Is there an option to have mailman ignore anonymous posts and not even
acknowledge the post. Just let it go to /dev/null ??

I have looked and see nothing in simple english..

Right now, I am seriously blacklisted by the anonymous posts being sent by
spammers and mailman trying to send back a message "your post is not
allowed"


Maybe I just need to rename them ??


This is getting to the point of "The Spammers win, I loose"

Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] Dump messages

[Dave Foran]

Gents

If there an option to just dump spam  that is sent to a list rather than
repliy with you have no permission to send

I have several mailman lists for reasons only spammers know, love to spam
them with all kinds of things

and I would love to just send these replies to /dev/null  Really not even
acknowledge them as in just ignore

Thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting users off old listserv

[Dave Foran]

If I may, I moved 6 lists off Smartlist to Mailman, and no one knew the
difference

(one list has 4600+ members)

I copied the dlist and did a mass subscription and flagged the system to not
invite and no notice and vola done

Painless yes..

Dave


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Stephen J. Turnbull
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 05:30
To: heathcliff
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Getting users off old listserv

heathcliff writes:

 > We are all set to migrate our user community to Mailman, but we are  > at
an impasse as to the most painless way to do this.  It is not  > enough to
just inform them of the cut off date and send them a few  > lines of
instructions or guides ahead of time.  Has anyone come  > across or devised
a painless way to wean them off of the old  > listserv?  I have been
checking around in the archives, but to no  > avail.

Er, what do you mean by "user community"?  The subscribers, or the list
admins?  And what do you mean by "pain"?

It should be transparent to the subscribers, until they want to unsubscribe.

For the list admins, they need to know how to print out a list of
subscriptions from the old listserv in the form:

"Full Name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

and paste them into the mass subscription window in the subscriber
maintenance form in the Mailman admin interface.  The Mailman side is almost
trivial unless you've got hundreds of subscribers or scores of lists.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not working after reboot

[Dave Foran]

Run chkconfig  is where the start ups go


something like

chkconfig -l 345 mailmain

It has been a while..  Do man chkconfig

DAve


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ki
> Song
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> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not working after reboot
>
>
> > I recently rebooted my Fedora server.
> > It has a copy of Mailman 2.1.8 installed.
> > I usually have to restart mailman by running mailmanctl after rebooting.
> >
> > 1. How do I add mailmanctl as a program that will run on boot?
> I don't want
> > to have to run mailmanctl every time I reboot the server.
> >
> > 2. Since the last reboot, I started the mailmanctl program, but
> it doesn't
> > look like the mailman server is running properly. The web admin
> pages are
> > running, but it looks like some parts of mailman have not started.
> > Specifically, the subscribe/unsubscribe requests are not being
> processed.
> > What other processes need to be started in order for mailman to run
> > properly?
>
>
> Nevermind about question 2. I found out that the subscription confirmation
> email that is being sent to the mailman admin is the only part that was
> turned off. The actual server is running properly.
>
> I still need to know how to make mailman run by default on startup.
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[Mailman-Users] Subscription question(s)

[Dave Foran]

I have been looking thru the achives  but alas. I am missing something ;-)

Is there a way for a list moderator/owner to either unsubscribe or a
subsctibe
a user to the list using e-mail commands ??


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Turning off unsubscription confirmation

[Dave Foran]

There is an option in the unscribe page that  toggles those 2 options on or
off

http://someuseslessdomain/mailman/admin/xxx//members/remove

x== list name

Dave



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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
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> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Turning off unsubscription confirmation
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>
> Hello,
>
> Because we are unable to stop mailman from delivering e-mail command
> results to our subscribers, we have gone back to a confirmation system
> whereby an e-mail is sent to users when a subscription request is made.
> However, we feel that unsubscription confirmation is uncessary and the
> unsub e-mail is basically an extra step.  How do you turn off the unsub
> confirmation e-mail and keep the sub confirmation e-mail?
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> Thank you,
> Ben
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin Page

[Dave Foran]

Disregard

I got it fixed and arrgh  the system is corrupted and the user list is gone


Which now asks this question..  I have a system also using Smartlist.
While a bit of a stinker ( I took over the system from afreind who passed
away)

But the option I really do like is that every night the contents of the
users distibution list
is e-mailed to the list owner and the users are backed up into a 3 day
rotation..

Does mailman have a provision for backing up the users list on a daily basis


THANKS


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Greetings
I am not if I have the correct list to ask this, but  ;-)

I host a couple of mailman lists   Seem to working just fine

I have 2 questions..

1 How you prune old messages from the archives.. Looks like you can just
delete them but!!!

2 I have lost a list name on the admin page  I think the list is still
working
   But the name is missing.  Any thoughts ??

THANKS

Dave




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[Mailman-Users] Admin Page

[Dave Foran]

Greetings
I am not if I have the correct list to ask this, but  ;-)

I host a couple of mailman lists   Seem to working just fine

I have 2 questions..

1 How you prune old messages from the archives.. Looks like you can just
delete them but!!!

2 I have lost a list name on the admin page  I think the list is still
working
   But the name is missing.  Any thoughts ??

THANKS

Dave




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