[Mailman-Users] Constant Mailman error messages

[PCZero Support]

I have a hosting client using MailMan with about 10,000 
subscribers.  He sends mail only about once or twice a year and it is 
an announcement only list, no discussion, he is the only one who 
posts.  Recently he posted and now I am getting constantly flooded 
with the following message.


I have killed the mailman running processes and rebooted the 
server.  The error message continue.  What is causing this error and 
how do I stop it?








Delivered-To: supp...@pczero.net
Envelope-to: r...@morpheus.rvaservers.com
To: r...@morpheus.rvaservers.com
Subject: lfd on morpheus.rvaservers.com: Excessive resource usage: 
mailman (11571 (Parent PID:11569))

From:  
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 08:35:47 -0500

Time: Thu Dec 22 08:35:47 2022 -0500
Account:  mailman
Resource: Process Time
Exceeded: 1857 > 1800 (seconds)
Executable:   /usr/bin/python2.7
Command Line: /usr/bin/python2 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s

PID:  11571 (Parent PID:11569)
Killed:   No


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[Mailman-Users] Malfunction of our mailing list

[support]

Hello everyone.
The normal operation of our mailing list was such that when you post a 
message, you get yourself a copy of the message. Currently, when you 
post a message, you receive no copies. You do not know if the members 
got the message.

Can you help me? Please

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[Mailman-Users] post to mailman from mailman-owner

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I have an old Mailman installation (2.1.14) using postfix virtual domains.
There was a problem with permissions, and so a lot of messages were shunted.
I fixed permissions, and mailing lists are working, but list moderator
requests are not being sent.
My 'post' logs a are filled with messages saying:

Feb 03 22:39:34 2012 (30455) post to mailman from mailman-ow...@mydomain.com,
size=1694, message-id=,
1 failures

This message repeats every few seconds.
My mailman managed alias file does have what I think are the correct
entries for the mailman list:

# STANZA START: mailman
# CREATED: Thu Jun 23 22:10:23 2011
mailman: "|/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
mailman-admin:   "|/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
mailman-bounces: "|/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
mailman-confirm: "|/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
mailman-join:"|/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
mailman-leave:   "|/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
mailman-owner:   "|/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
mailman-request: "|/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
mailman-subscribe:   "|/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
mailman-unsubscribe: "|/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman"
# STANZA END: mailman

Can anyone point me in the correct direction to fix these problems?

Thanks
Paul
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[Mailman-Users] Removing "on behalf of"

[support team]

Dear 

How can I Remove "on behalf of"  with outlook???

thanks

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[Mailman-Users] Quick question

[Support]

I'm trying to add a active email link in the non digest footer but having
trouble doing so. Is this possible? 
Basically I manage around 15 lists and want people to be able to opt out of
the list by emailing me directly at
a certain email address. I can get the email address on there but its not
active. I want people to just be able to click 
it (my email address) and type remove and hit send. 

Thanks,

Joe 

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[Mailman-Users] Check_perms issues

[support]

What does this all mean?

Re-run as list (or root) with -f flag to fix
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc# check_perms -f
/var/lib/mailman/templates bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/logs bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/Mailman bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/locks bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/cron bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/pythonlib bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/scripts bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/mail bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/bin bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
/var/lib/mailman/icons bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
Problems found: 11
Re-run as list (or root) with -f flag to fix


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[Mailman-Users] korean error

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Hi 

FC3 running python 2.3.4 & trying to install Mailman-2.1.9

./configure (using default settings)
make install produces just this error

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/update", line 46, in ?
import paths
  File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py", line 60, in ?
import korean
ImportError: No module named korean
make: *** [update] Error 1 

I  have googled and read the FAQ's but not found a solution.

Mark
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Alternative to Mailman

[IT-Support @ AStA TU Darmstadt]

Hello John,

this really sounds like you'd need a campaign software software :-)

Have you ever heard of "openEMM" http://www.openemm.org/ ?

May that's what you're looking for.

Best wishes,
Ivan

Tenant schrieb:
> We've been using Mailman for several years for a number of our lists, 
> been reasonably happy, and will probably continue to use it.
> 
> However, no single package is the right answer for all situations. 
> Some of our newer domains need packages with capabilities that 
> Mailman can't provide, so I'm looking for suggestions and comments on 
> various alternative open source packages (and not trying to troll).
> 
> We're looking at PHPlist, DadaMail and other packages. We need to be 
> able to send up to 100,000 at a shot, announce only, use MySQL and 
> with html mail (or provide that as an option, which Mailman can't 
> do), merge/purge lists, searchable archives, personalization and get 
> around AOL/Hotmail perceived spam bouncing, etc.
> 
> In the best of worlds, I'd like to be able to maintain various fields 
> on list members including name and source so, for example, we could 
> decide to send an email to all list members from Source A and Source 
> C, but not Source B, and if there are duplicates on lists A and B, of 
> course send only one copy.
> 
> Maybe that's getting into the realm of campaign software. All of our 
> list members are opt-in, but they come from various sources, so I'd 
> like to be able to pick sources for each mailing and essentially 
> build a list each time from various criteria.
> 
> I'd prefer open source (of course) with an active development 
> community, and we maintain our own server with many virtual domains. 
> I realize no single package can do all that, but suggestion and 
> comments are welcome. Thanks.
> 
> John Fisher
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Re: [Mailman-Users] remove list from overview

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Martin Held schrieb:
> hi,
> 
> i have a few mailing lists.
> 
> i saw, that all lists are listet here:
> 
> e.g. for python.org lists
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo
> 
> so is it possible to remove a mailinglist
> from this overview?
> 
> 
> best regards
> 
> emmi

Hello Emmi,

do you want to remove the list completely or just from the listinfo-page?

The remove the list completely (with all members etc.) you type

rmlist  on the console.


I don't know if it is possible to "hide" a list on the listinfo-site -
someone else here might know ;-)

Best wishes,
Ivan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists not shown on "listinfo"-site

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Mark Sapiro schrieb:
> IT-Support @ AStA TU Darmstadt wrote:
> 
>> Patrick Bogen schrieb:
>>> Have you tried following FAQ 4.62
>>> <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.062.htp>
>>> ?
>> I could not figure it out yet - I still have to study the FAQ article
>> you told me - I'll give you feedback as soon as possible!
> 
> 
> I have edited the above FAQ article to try to make it more clear. If
> you've looked at the prior version, you might find the current version
> more helpful.
> 

Hello Mark, hello Patrick,

I read the article again and found the solution here:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp

I had to do a "withlist -l -a -r fix_url" cause obviously after fixing
apache, configuration of mailman was touched (by me?).
Now the lists appear again and I also tweaked it to ssl-support :-)

Thanks for your help! Very good support on this list!!!

Best wishes,
Ivan





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists not shown on "listinfo"-site

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Patrick Bogen schrieb:
> On 7/18/06, IT-Support @ AStA TU Darmstadt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The mailman listinfo-site is available, but the lists are not shown.
> 
> Ah, sorry, that wasn't very clear.
> 
> Have you tried following FAQ 4.62
> <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.062.htp>
> ?

Hello Patrick,

thanks for your message!

I could not figure it out yet - I still have to study the FAQ article
you told me - I'll give you feedback as soon as possible!

Thanks again!

Ivan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists not shown on "listinfo"-site

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Patrick Bogen schrieb:
> On 7/18/06, IT-Support @ AStA TU Darmstadt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> we had some problems with apache2 and mailman - after upgrading the
>> server the lists are not shown anymore on the listinfo-site
>>
>> http://myserver/mailman/listinfo
>>
>> Under /var/lib/mailman/list my lists are still there - i guess the
>> databaseconfig isn't read properly or could it be missconfiguration in
>> apache2?
> 
> Most likely ah issue with apache2. Can you paste your Apache config
> directives regarding Mailman, and the ones you included in your
> Apache2 config?
> 
> (Grepping the old configfiles for 'mailman' should be sufficient to
> find the interesting ones.)
> 

Hello Patrick,

thhanks ffor your mail!

The mailman listinfo-site is available, but the lists are not shown.

The conf under /etc/apache2/sites-available/default looks like this
(Debian):

NameVirtualHost *

ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

DocumentRoot /var/www/

Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None


Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
allow from all
# This directive allows us to have apache2's default start page
# in /apache2-default/, but still have / go to the right
place
#   RedirectMatch ^/$ /asta/


ForceType application/x-httpd-php




ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/

AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
Order allow,deny
Allow from all


ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/

AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all



ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log

# Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit,
# alert, emerg.
LogLevel warn

CustomLog /var/log/apache2/access.log combined
ServerSignature On

Alias /doc/ "/usr/share/doc/"

Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order deny,allow
Deny from all
Allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 ::1/128





Apache2.conf:

# Based upon the NCSA server configuration files originally by Rob McCool.
# Changed extensively for the Debian package by Daniel Stone
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# and also by Thom May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

# ServerRoot: The top of the directory tree under which the server's
# configuration, error, and log files are kept.
#
# NOTE!  If you intend to place this on an NFS (or otherwise network)
# mounted filesystem then please read the LockFile documentation
# (available at http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#lockfile>);
# you will save yourself a lot of trouble.

ServerRoot "/etc/apache2"

# The LockFile directive sets the path to the lockfile used when Apache
# is compiled with either USE_FCNTL_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT or
# USE_FLOCK_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT. This directive should normally be left at
# its default value. The main reason for changing it is if the logs
# directory is NFS mounted, since the lockfile MUST BE STORED ON A LOCAL
# DISK. The PID of the main server process is automatically appended to
# the filename.

LockFile /var/lock/apache2/accept.lock

# PidFile: The file in which the server should record its process
# identification number when it starts.

PidFile /var/run/apache2.pid

# Timeout: The number of seconds before receives and sends time out.

TimeOut 300

# KeepAlive: Whether or not to allow persistent connections (more than
# one request per connection). Set to "Off" to deactivate.

KeepAlive on

# MaxKeepAliveRequests: The maximum number of requests to allow
# during a persistent connection. Set to 0 to allow an unlimited amount.
# We recommend you leave this number high, for maximum performance.

MaxKeepAliveRequests 100

# KeepAliveTimeout: Number of seconds to wait for the next request from the
# same client on the same connection.

KeepAliveTimeout 15

##
## Server-Pool Size Regulation (MPM specific)
##

# prefork MPM
# StartServers . number of server processes to start
# MinSpareServers .. minimum number of server processes which are
kept spare
# MaxSpareServers .. maximum number of server processes which are
kept spare
# MaxClients ... maximum number of server processes allowed to start
# MaxRequestsPerChild .. maximum number of requests a server process serves

StartServers 5
MinSpareServers  5
MaxSpareServe

[Mailman-Users] Lists not shown on "listinfo"-site

[IT-Support @ AStA TU Darmstadt]

Hello,

we had some problems with apache2 and mailman - after upgrading the
server the lists are not shown anymore on the listinfo-site

http://myserver/mailman/listinfo

Under /var/lib/mailman/list my lists are still there - i guess the
databaseconfig isn't read properly or could it be missconfiguration in
apache2?

Thanks!

Ivan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do you add a list of addresses to mailman list?

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Robert Lane schrieb:
> I have tried to search for this and figure it out from the edit options,
> but I am at a loss how to do this.
> 
> We have a list of emails from our professional association in an Excel
> spreadsheet.
> 
> I want to subscribe the 200+ members to our membership mail list.  How
> can I do this?
> 
> Thanks!

Hello Robert,

when you click in the "member-administration" (I translate from the
german  interface, so it may be named different in the english gui), you
can add  you members - copy them fist into a text file and pay attention
to add only one e-mail adress per line - that's the way to add a mass of
adresses.
There is also the possibility to add directly from a file - but I think
it won't work with excel, maybe .csv-format or .txt ...

Good luck,
Ivan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't figure out if I set up mail list correct

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Robert Lane schrieb:
> I set up a mail list. (I think) I tried to set it up so everyone rejects 
> if they send to the list. 
> 
> We want to be able to have just one person send to members, but in one 
> direction only.
> 
> I then set it so the moderate required was NOT checked on my own email 
> address.
> 
> If I then send an email to the list using that email should it be going 
> out to everyone on the list?
> 
> I haven't seen anything come through from it so I am wondering if I have 
> a problem at my host or if I set it up wrong. It does show up in the 
> archive, but nothing has come through the email.

Hello Robert,

maybe you have the setting, that you (and maybe also anybody else) does 
not recieve a copy of the own message sent to the list - you can check 
this in the first option of your membership administration.

Best wishes,
Ivan




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[Mailman-Users] Mailman web-frontend on different server than mailserver

[IT-Support @ AStA TU Darmstadt]

Hello,

i have a tricky problem:

Our mail- and webserver crashed and after a restore apache isn't running
yet - it will still take some time to fix it on the origin server (so
the web-frontend of mailman isn't working)- so we set up apache on a new
machine.
The problem is, that after the installation of mailman on the new
machine, mailman logicly looks on the localhost for lists etc.

What I want is (if possible) to use the mailman installation on the new
server, but to take the lists and configs from the origin server - if
this isn't possible - I would try to transfer everything to the new
server - but the problem is that I CAN'T TRANSFER the mailserver!!!

Incoming mails are still recieved by the origin server (postfix) an I
don't know how to tell postfix/mailman that mailman now is on a
different server in the LAN an it has to pass over all mailman commands
to the new server...

Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot!

Ivan


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[Mailman-Users] Locating Private Members

[Web User Support]

I've had an inquiry from a list-administrator about identifyng private 
listserv members (who don't show on at /roster). Is there a way to identify 
those users other than by going through each alpha-numeric section of the 
Membership Management section of the Admin interface?

Thanks in advance for any help with this.


Geoff


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot View Subscribers' List - Mailman 2.1.5

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Web User Support wrote:
 >
 >>One of our clients is unable to view their subscriber list via the listinfo
 >>page; the result insists on a "valid email address". The client *is* using
 >>a valid address and I have confirmed that she has the correct password. I
 >>have also failed to log in via our master user-name and I have re-set the
 >>password.
 >
 >>Does anyone have any ideas about solving this?

 >Is the roster available to list members or only to the admin? (it says
 >on the listinfo page) See private roster on Privacy
 >options...Subscription rules.

It's set to admin-only and she *is* one of them. I also re-set her admin 
password, but without success.


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[Mailman-Users] Cannot View Subscribers' List - Mailman 2.1.5

[Web User Support]

Hi,

This is my first time posting to this list; I hope someone can help me.

One of our clients is unable to view their subscriber list via the listinfo 
page; the result insists on a "valid email address". The client *is* using 
a valid address and I have confirmed that she has the correct password. I 
have also failed to log in via our master user-name and I have re-set the 
password.

Does anyone have any ideas about solving this?

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[Mailman-Users] SPAM relayed mail through Mailman.

[Colorado Tech Support]

Hi, I'm pretty new to this, but I've got a  problem.

Last night, a SPAMer was able to relay 250 mail messages through my 
server and I can't figure out how they did it.

Here's my configuration:

Fedora Core 2 - kernel-2.6.10-1.771_FC2
apache - httpd-2.0.51-2.9
mailman-2.1.5-10.fc2
sendmail-8.12.11-4.6

Here's what I know...

My sendmail is configured in a way to only allow relaying from IP 
addresses within my network (the 192.168.blah.blah range).
I believe this is configured correctly because I get "RELAYING DENIED" 
messages all the time from SPAMers trying to relay through my server.

The only reason I know about the attempt is because I received over 100 
bounced messages to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" from the target of the 
attack.

The bounced messages all contained the original message (which came from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]).

My /etc/log/maillog file shows all 250 sendmails being relayed (here's 
just one):
maillog:May 14 21:02:52 nameofmyserver sendmail[14830]: j4F32px8014830: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=2408, class=0, nrcpts=1, 
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bodytype=7BIT, 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=mail.popcap.com [69.25.140.155]

My mailman settings don't allow anyone from any groups to send 
mass-mailings without approval.  (I verified this all this morning.)

So, I guess I have two questions:
1)  How did they do it?
(and more importantly)  2) How do I stop it?

Thank you all for your time!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman path issue FC3

[Obantec Support]

Hi Denis

think its fixed now. i did install FC3 rpm's via yum but when i checked cron
i could see no entries so as on RH8 i ran the crontab code Big mistake!
anyway stopped mailman (/etc/rc.d/initd/mailman) removed the cron entries,
started up mailman (it put new entries in cron and it all looks cool.)

and i do read the list.

Thanks

Mark

- Original Message - 
From: "John Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Obantec Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman path issue FC3



>
> Well, I'm a Red Hat guy :-)
>
> You shouldn't need to link anything, especially mailman. The commands
> executed via cron located in /usr/lib/mailman/cron are python programs
> that have no relation to the mailman wrapper program
> (/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman).
>
> You shouldn't need to do anything to get the cron part of mailman with
> our RPM's working, it should just work automatically.
>
> I trust you installed an FC3 rpm on FC3, and not an RPM from an other
> distribution. What rpm is installed? (hint: rpm -q mailman)
>
> In theory what should happen is that when you start the mailman service
> a cron file is copied into /etc/cron.d/mailman (its done this way so
> that mailman cron jobs don't run if the mailman rpm is installed but not
> enabled). The format of cron entries in that file is different then in a
> crontab file. The difference in the two file formats is the insertion of
> extra field, after the time fields and before the command (this the user
> the cron job is to be run as), in this case the user is mailman. Crontab
> files DO NOT have the user field. Crontab files are not stored
> in /etc/cron.d. Crontab is never used by our mailman rpm. If I were a
> betting man I'd say it looks like the /etc/cron.d/mailman file with the
> extra "mailman" user id before the command has been passed to crontab
> and cron is trying to execute the username "mailman" because its been
> passed a file of the wrong format.
>
> BTW, the reason crontab files don't have the username in them is because
> its passed on the command line (via -u) when intalling the crontab file.
> But cron files are not installed via crontab, they are merely deposited
> in /etc/cron.d and thus they need the user id field.
>
> By any chance did you run crontab and pass it the cron file from the
> rpm? If thats your problem.
>
> The only other thing I can think of is older rpms used to use crontab
> (although not on FC3), did you overlay a newer mailman rpm over an older
> installation? The rpm is supposed to remove the old crontab, but it
> might have failed to do this, but the old crontab would have had the old
> format without the username.
> -- 
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>
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[Mailman-Users] mailman path issue FC3

[Obantec Support]

Hi

I am running FC3 and installed mailman using yum.
now the cron is running but root emails show

  Subject Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailman
/usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled


Illegal command: /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled

i put a link in /bin/mailman to /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman

and from bash with mailman i get Usage: mailman program [args...] so it
seems to find mailman ok.

but

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled
Illegal command: /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman complaining about script permissions after running normally for a period...

[it support (Jason)]

Cheers,
I've eventually tracked it down to a sophos installation script. sophos, 
was being installed in the wrong place and that was affecting the file 
ownerships

Jaso
Ezra Taylor wrote:
Something is changing the ownership of your files.  The previous 
responder is right,  a cron or logrotate is doing this.

Ezra
Brad Knowles wrote:
At 11:12 AM + 2005-03-04, it support wrote:
 I've tracked down the problem to the ownership of the files are 
changing.
 No longer are they being owned by mailman, but by root. I can fix the
 problem by resetting the ownership of the files to mailman and
 re-running check_perms -f to fix any stray permissions, but its
 frustrating for the list users who have to wait for this to be done.

There's nothing within Mailman that would cause this kind of 
behaviour.

 I've checked the cron scripts on the machine and can't see anything 
that
 would affect the files in that part of the file system.

I don't know anything about your OS.  I'd recommend you use the 
mailing lists, newsgroups, FAQs, etc... that are appropriate to what 
you're running.

I can tell you that the problem may be a logfile rotation script, 
or some other sort of cron job, or maybe it's being run indirectly -- 
some other cron job runs some other command which results in the kind 
of behaviour you're seeing.

 Has anyone else seen this problem and do they know the cause of it?

You could search the archives of the mailman-users mailing list, 
such as described at 
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.018.htp>. 
I've heard of these kinds of problems before, but I don't know if 
they occurred on the same platform that you're running.



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[Mailman-Users] mailman complaining about script permissions after running normally for a period...

[it support]

Hi,
I've had mailman running quite happily for a period of time on a redhat 
9 machine and made sure that when I set it up that the groups were all 
correct and for a few weeks messages were going out to the list. Then, 
periodically (every few weeks) I get the following message in the logs 
and mail is not delivered.

Mar  4 10:46:42 david postfix/local[31297]: 01DE533DC8: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, orig_to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=27, 
status=bounced (Command died with status 2: 
"/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post noticesp". Command output: Group 
mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed 
as group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail 
script as group "nobody".  Try tweaking the mail server to run the 
script as group "mailman", or re-run configure,  providing the command 
line option `--with-mail-gid=nobody'. )

I've tracked down the problem to the ownership of the files are 
changing. No longer are they being owned by mailman, but by root. I can 
fix the problem by resetting the ownership of the files to mailman and 
re-running check_perms -f to fix any stray permissions, but its 
frustrating for the list users who have to wait for this to be done.

I've checked the cron scripts on the machine and can't see anything that 
would affect the files in that part of the file system.

Has anyone else seen this problem and do they know the cause of it?
Jason
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[Mailman-Users] Removing List information at end of emails

[Support]

Hi,

 I'm using RH7.3 and Mailman 2.1.6B4. I'd like to remove the list
information(like the example shown below) that is appended to emails sent to
my mailman lists.

___
listtest mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
https://mail.foobar.com/mailman/listinfo/listtest
__


I looked over all the options but, can't find one that seems to remove these
email
footers.  

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[Mailman-Users] mailman processing queued messages - not working

[NetC Network Support]

Hi,
Our mailman installation is not processing queued mail. Postifx 
delivers it (relay=mailman) and it ends up in the qfiles directory. 
After that, nothing happens to it.

System info:
- mailman 2.0.3
(ports i think)
- FreeBSD 4.8
- Postfix
Processes:
mailman 20016  0.0  0.0   628  244  ??  Is   11:50AM   0:00.00 /bin/sh 
-c /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/Mailman/cron/qrunner
mailman 20018  0.0  1.1  7308 5832  ??  S11:50AM   0:00.24 
/usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/Mailman/cron/qrunner

Active mailman cron entries:
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S 
/usr/local/Mailman/cron/qrunner
27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/Mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/Mailman/cron/mailpasswds
0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/Mailman/cron/senddigests
0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/Mailman/cron/checkdbs

N.B. Lock files get created (qrunner.lock) with a timestamp of 21st 
December at 21:50, even though the system time is:
Tue Dec 21 12:06:36 EST 2004

-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman  mailman63 Dec 21 21:50 
qrunner.lock..20018
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman  mailman63 Dec 21 21:50 qrunner.lock

Only logfile being updated recently is qrunner:
(taken at 12:05)
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman  mailman   1685161 Dec 21 12:05 qrunner
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman  mailman   3893027 Dec 21 11:02 smtp
Containing nothing but:
(etc.)
Dec 21 11:45:01 2004 (19962) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 21 11:55:01 2004 (20070) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 21 12:00:01 2004 (20152) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 21 12:05:02 2004 (20191) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Steps I have tried: (all unsuccessful)
- sending test messages
these hit postfix which delivers them to the mailman q
the web interface does not show any pending administrator requests
these lists all require approval
- restarting the qrunner process
- running qrunner by hand - no error output
- removing the lock files
- restarting cron
- removing all qfile directory contents and sending test messages
I must be doing something wrong. Everything was working until 5:05pm 
Friday (now 12:15pm Tuesday AEST). Nobody changed anything that I know 
of.

Any pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks,
David Kellam
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[Mailman-Users] mailman is disabling members which bounced info is dated past the bounce_info_stale_after ???

[Fran - HIS Support]

I noticed a weird thing.
users whose email address  bounced more than the bounce_info_stale_after 
(30 day)
were recently disabled when I dimisished the bounce threshold to 2.0
Setting of the list are:
Bounce_processing: Y
*bounce_score_threshold 2.0
**bounce_info_stale_after 30
**bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings 1
**bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval 3*
*
and yet this user was disabled oct 1:
Jul 22 17:26:27 2004 (183) members: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce score: 1.0
Jul 23 16:23:47 2004 (183) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: members current bounce 
score: 2.0
Oct 01 09:00:00 2004 (90334) xxxmembers: [EMAIL PROTECTED] disabling due 
to bounce score 2.0 >= 2.
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Since the info is more than 2 months old, I though it would not count 
against this user???

What I'm I doing wrong??
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Re: [Mailman-Users] FC1 update to 2.1.5 leaves me with -1 requestswaiting

[Obantec Support]

- Original Message - 
From: "Trevor Cordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 9:04 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] FC1 update to 2.1.5 leaves me with -1
requestswaiting


> I just updated my FC1 to the latest mailman version.  I followed the
> instructions in the notice that said to stop mm first and start it again
> after.  However, I seem to still be getting the "-1 requests waiting" bug.
> All my lists reported this last night.
>
> How can I clear this up?
>
> (I searched July's archives and google and found now reference to this???)
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I hit this today.

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.038.htp

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[Mailman-Users] terse phrase update fails MM2.1.5

[Obantec Support]

Hi

I set the original terse phrase via the admin web page but decide it was a
bit bloated, was in the form

Server News (Server News for users on ServerX)

i changed it to

Server News

Applied changes and post to list. to my surprise i still get To: Server News
(Server News for users on ServerX)

I tried to set it to blank but no joy. Still sends original value.

is this a bug in 2.1.5 in the terse phrase.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to stop lists.domain.com becoming domain.com

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Please Quote your username in all correspondence
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Obantec Support"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] how to stop lists.domain.com becoming
domain.com


> Mark Sapiro wrote:
> >
> >So, to summarize, I think posts are being addressed this way by the
> >sender. If you see posts from the list addressed To: someone, Cc: the
> >list, and you know that these posts were send to the list addressed
> >To: the list only, then I don't know why this is happening.
> >
>
> One additional thought. If your list is set for "personalized
> delivery", messages from the list would be individually addressed, but
> I don't know if that would explain the Cc: as I have never used this
> feature and it's not even enabled at my site. Anyway, it sounds as if
> you DON'T want personalized delivery, so if it is set, turn it off.
>
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Hi Mark

personalized delivery is selected is that what you mean?
Getting closer as i switched it to No and there is no Cc: !

thanks for your help i think i am on the trail now.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to stop lists.domain.com becoming domain.com

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Obantec Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] how to stop lists.domain.com becoming
domain.com


> Obantec Support wrote:
> >
> >Ok what i mean here is when I post to the list i only want list members
to
> >see To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >what they are seeing is To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >what i want is like this list where when you post all you see is To:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> I don't think this is a Mailman issue per-se. The default Mailman
> behavior doesn't change these things or move them around. I think the
> post was addressed To: someone, Cc: list by the person who sent it (or
> that persons mail client).
>
> For example, your post to which I'm replying was addressed by you To:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and it came to the list From: you with that
> To: address. I am replying-all to your post. if I didn't, the reply
> would go to you only. My MUA then addresses my reply-all To: you and
> the list, but many if not most MUAs will address that reply-all To:
> you with Cc: the list.
>
> So in this case, you will receive my reply directly, everyone else will
> receive it from the list. If your subscription is not set to avoid
> duplicate copies, you will receive another copy from the list.
>
> So, to summarize, I think posts are being addressed this way by the
> sender. If you see posts from the list addressed To: someone, Cc: the
> list, and you know that these posts were send to the list addressed
> To: the list only, then I don't know why this is happening.
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Hi Mark

I think it is how some mailing lists are not 100% used the way i understand
them to be used.
You hit reply all and yes OE sets up my address;list address (not CC) but
this means i get 2 emails!

if you hit reply and substitute my address for list address then i would
only get 1 email (my subscribed email).
Some users send with the From: set to the list name to avoid this. ( i see
quite a few double emails).

I still believe that the first email to a list should when it arrives at the
users inbox only show From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

not From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and CC:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

take my original post to this list the headers are

From: "Obantec Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No Cc: header added by mailman

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to stop lists.domain.com becoming domain.com

[Obantec Support]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Obantec Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] how to stop lists.domain.com becoming
domain.com


> Obantec Support wrote:
> >
> >Now when i post the email From: loses the lists so [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >becomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] but footer keeps full url.

^ my error here it should have read [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> >
> >1. how do i fix From: changing?
>
> This is probably being done by your MTA stripping internal servers from
> the "external" domain.

Yes i had DNS not setup quite right. a rough CNAME for the list which made
mailman web pages work but resulted in dropping the lists part of domain
when passing thru mail server.
Added A record for web and MX for mail and its all ok.

> >2. how do i prevent To: showing sender and CC: showing list (minus the
> >"lists" part of domain?
>
> I'm not clear on what the question here is, but the FAQ at
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp
> may help.

Ok what i mean here is when I post to the list i only want list members to
see To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what they are seeing is To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
what i want is like this list where when you post all you see is To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Everything else seems to work, it sends my footer, rejects non moderater
postings etc.

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[Mailman-Users] how to stop lists.domain.com becoming domain.com

[Obantec Support]

Hi

I am just in the process of adding mailman-2.1.5

Now i created a list and change mm_cfg.py so that

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.domain.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.domain.com'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

added aliases and i can access the admin via www
host name this list prefers is lists.domain.com

and i subscribed myself and another email address ok.

Now when i post the email From: loses the lists so [EMAIL PROTECTED]
becomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] but footer keeps full url.

1. how do i fix From: changing?
2. how do i prevent To: showing sender and CC: showing list (minus the
"lists" part of domain?

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[Mailman-Users] configuring mailman NOT TO handle bounces??

[Fran - HIS Support]

Hi guys,
I have a list owner I just  migrated from Majordomo, who'd like
go get the bounces to his email address instead of letting Malman handle 
the bounces.

I checked, I could not find any obvious solutions in the list bounce 
handling.
Even redirecting the list-bounce mail alias would not do it I suppose.

Is there a way to configure Mailman do do that?
Thanks for any  help.
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[Mailman-Users] questions about mailman

[Cyber Achievers Support]

Hi
 
Does mailman offer multi-user autoresponder - e.g. can 
my members each get their own mailing list and manage it online with this nice 
looking system?
 
Thanks  
Christine 
Hart   Managing 
Directorwww.cyberachievers.biz 
  +27313037714 Bus. Hrs: Mon to Fr 8:00am to 4:00pm 
 
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[Mailman-Users] pipermail problem

[Obantec Support]

Hi mailman 2.1.3

pipermail seems to give odd result when trying to download full raw archive

mhtml:http://lists.domain.co.uk/pipermail/wibble.mbox/wibble.mbox

page cannot be displayed.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Edit

[Customer Support]

How do I edit the subscription confirmation page to remove the Mailman 
footer data?  I find it to be a security issue to give a link to my admin 
page (whether one needs a password or not) to anyone and everyone who 
browses through my list pases.



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[Mailman-Users] virtualhost 99% working but!

[Obantec Support]

Hi

mailman 2.1.2
figured out how to globally add mailman script alias so each domain can get
to lists.domainX.com/mailman/ but pipermail always seems to use
default_url_host as the lists.domain.com to access pipermail. So the link
List_Archives is always lists.domain.com/pipermail/listname not
lists.domain1.com/pipermail/listname

i have 5 domains setup and all the web access pages for admin lists etc seem
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[Mailman-Users] Making Real Name and Password required.

[Customer & Technical Support]

Is there a way to set up MM so that the Real Name and password are required 
fields?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Customer & Technical Support]

And you cant say that more and more people are NOT getting tired of having 
the mail they receive all cluttered up with "look pretty" garbage and less 
real content.



t 08:11 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:

Think what you like, but you can't say taht more and more people want HTML
e-mails.
- Original Message -
From: "Richard Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Mailman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 11:35 PM, Cody Harris wrote:
>
> > If it was suddenly unprofessional to not use HTML and use XML, would
> > you
> > follow?
>
> The use of XML and HTML are not equivalent.
>
> Using XML to semantically markup data for transmission via email is
> justified where it is used to remove ambiguity in the data; I contrast
> this with the XML markup generated with similar objectives to HTML
> markup by some popular PC applications in particular.
>
> IMNSHO filling people's mail boxes, burning their bandwidth and spam
> and junk  mail filter performance with mail tarted up using HTML is not
> justified.
>
> HMTL email is for the most part, like much HTML markup on web pages, a
> triumph of form over content.
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Customer & Technical Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mailman"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> >
> >
> >>  HTML in email sucks.  If I want to see a damn web page I'll
> >> go to
> >> the URL.  Most people use HTML to dress up spam or otherwise hide the
> >> fact
> >> that they had nothing worthwhile to say anyway.  I filter ALL HTML
> >> out of
> >> any mail I get.  Its extremely unprofessional to use.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 07:17 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:
> >>
> >>> HTML allows the e-mails to be well layed out. Things to be bolded to
> >>> ppl
> >>> don't have to hunt for them. Wait a minute, i'm not sending to the
> > mailman
> >>> list! I'm sending to you. Oops ^_^. Anyways. I'' just add it to CC.
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:14 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> For me, I'm anti HTML emails for our clients because of the extra
> > traffic
> >>>> that it incurs.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/15/03 3:12 PM, "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why is that people are anti HTML? How about if sites went anti
> >>>>> html?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>> From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:08 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ha... I'm in the same boat really... I discouraged the client from
> >>> sending
> >>>>>> HTML emails, but they insisted. The email recipients actually
> > prefer
> >>> the
> >>>>>> HTML vs plain text now, to my surprise. We use Mailman to send the
> >>> daily
> >>>>>> emails, but we do not use Mailman for list management (at least
> >>>>>> for
> >>> this
> >>>>>> list). The management is handled through the web site itself
> > (skyy.com)
> >>>>>> using MySql. A user creates an account, then from there they can
> >>> subscribe
> >>>>>> to a list. We want the daily messages to have a link with a unique
> > ID
> >>> in
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>> for a quick unsubscribe. I had the method all worked out, then we
> > went
> >>> w/
> >>>>>> HTML

Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Customer & Technical Support]

HTML in email sucks.  If I want to see a damn web page I'll go to 
the URL.  Most people use HTML to dress up spam or otherwise hide the fact 
that they had nothing worthwhile to say anyway.  I filter ALL HTML out of 
any mail I get.  Its extremely unprofessional to use.



At 07:17 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:

HTML allows the e-mails to be well layed out. Things to be bolded to ppl
don't have to hunt for them. Wait a minute, i'm not sending to the mailman
list! I'm sending to you. Oops ^_^. Anyways. I'' just add it to CC.
- Original Message -
From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> For me, I'm anti HTML emails for our clients because of the extra traffic
> that it incurs.
>
> On 7/15/03 3:12 PM, "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Why is that people are anti HTML? How about if sites went anti html?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> >
> >
> >> Ha... I'm in the same boat really... I discouraged the client from
sending
> >> HTML emails, but they insisted. The email recipients actually prefer
the
> >> HTML vs plain text now, to my surprise. We use Mailman to send the
daily
> >> emails, but we do not use Mailman for list management (at least for
this
> >> list). The management is handled through the web site itself (skyy.com)
> >> using MySql. A user creates an account, then from there they can
subscribe
> >> to a list. We want the daily messages to have a link with a unique ID
in
> > it
> >> for a quick unsubscribe. I had the method all worked out, then we went
w/
> >> HTML emails :(
> >>
> >>> don't send HTML :-)
> >>>
> >>> Seriously, though, I asked the same thing, and Barry basically vetoed
> > it.
> >>>
> >>> if you find a way (even with a local patch), I'm all eyes.
> >>>
> >>> I have a $CLIENT that would love it.
> >>>
> >>> LER
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgraded then ... "Too many recipients tothe message."

[Customer & Technical Support]

That parameter is described and coded poorly.  It is extremely 
misleading.  The number that one SHOULD have to put in there is the max 
number of address allowed.  However the number you need to enter is one 
number MORE THAN that number.  Max addresses should be max addresses!  It 
is very easy to set this wrong.  The instructions and the description don't 
logically follow with the code.  During the next update of MM this should 
be fixed.  Either the name of the parameter should be changed or the code 
behind it.  That way it will be what it says it is.  Many of our clients 
had this issue.

DB



At 10:08 AM 7/14/2003 -0700, CodyG wrote:

Thanks...  I found it!

It was set to 1, I set it to 2.

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[Mailman-Users] 2.1.2 Questions

[Customer & Technical Support]

	I am using 2.1.2 after coming from 2.0.13.  I like a lot the new options 
that were set 'features' in the older version.  However the programmers 
added a LOT more of the same old type of 'features' in the 2.1.2 version 
and have not allowed for optioning them out.  I'll try to describe as best 
I can what I want to do.
	Basically I want to run a list with none of the stock MM web pages.  One 
of the biggest things I don't like is that almost every page gives a link 
to places that users have no place being.  Case in point is the newly added 
confirmation page and the following admin approval page if your lest is set 
to confirm and approve.  Each of these pages lists the link to the admin 
control panel page.  That is a major security flaw IMHO.  Why even list 
that in the general population of your site.  I don't want all kinds of 
users and guests to my site to know the links to my admin pages.  Doesn't 
that make sense?  I THINK in 2.0.13 the confirm was a simply email that the 
pending new user replied to and they did not go to a series of web 
pages.  I may be wrong but I don't recall this at all.  Anyway it would be 
good to have it so all of these pages can be modified.
	The best case scene for me is to have a mailto link on one of my web site 
pages where potential subscribers can click to start the process of signing 
up for the list.  I know how to do that and I know the syntax to use.  The 
list would be confirm and approve.  The user would get an email with a 
simple line that say something about replying to confirm and possibly an 
address to report if he thinks he is being subscribed in bad faith.  No 
long list of MM links to my site since I do not want to use them.  Once the 
new user responds they will get an email (again with no list of links) that 
tells him his subscription is pending approval.  The admin gets notified 
and goes to approve.  No web interface at all and no mention of it.  Can 
someone help me with this.  Any patches of edits to the code to make this 
happen would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Digest From Address...

[Customer & Technical Support]

I just noticed that the digest version of my list is being addressed from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  That is a pretty strange address to use as 
a send address.  Is this standard?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest Question...

[Customer & Technical Support]

Brad,
I understand that these are my options and I appreciate your 
feedback.  What I need though is help with the second of these options.  I 
would like to edit the ToDigest.py file so that is simply does not add the 
text and link in question.  I think that would be the cleanest fix, however 
my python knowledge is very VERY limited and I cannot see where this is 
done so I don't know what to comment out (if it is that simple).  Any 
additional feedback from list members is invited.

Thanks,
DB
At 05:08 PM 7/12/2003 +0400, Brad Knowles wrote:

At 6:23 PM -0400 2003/07/11, Customer & Technical Support wrote:

>   I searched the archive and saw one thread about this.  The 'fix' was
>  to turn of the plain (vs MIME) for digest.  That (IMHO) is not a fix but
>  a work around.  I want to keep plain format and not add the two lines
>  listed above.  basically I want to just delete/trash/nuke any MIME on
>  the posts to the list.   Can someone please advise what I need to edit
>  (in ToDigest.py if I am not mistaken) to get rid of this?
You can modify your input filters so that you reject all messages
that are not in plain text format (or whatever), or you might be able
to configure it so that mailman will drop any attachment portion and
allow just the plain text part through.
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[Mailman-Users] Digest Question...

[Customer & Technical Support]

Hello all...
	I finally got lucky enough to get MM 2.1.2 installed on my server.  I like 
it a LOT better than the 2.0.13 version.  It has all of the features I 
wanted added in.  However it does one thing I don't like at all...  In the 
digest version of the list I get a link after a lot of messages similar to 
this one.

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://www.mydomain.com/mailman/private/listname/attachments/20030710/492d2165/attachment.htm

	I searched the archive and saw one thread about this.  The 'fix' was to 
turn of the plain (vs MIME) for digest.  That (IMHO) is not a fix but a 
work around.  I want to keep plain format and not add the two lines listed 
above.  basically I want to just delete/trash/nuke any MIME on the posts to 
the list.   Can someone please advise what I need to edit (in ToDigest.py 
if I am not mistaken) to get rid of this?

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Digest Setting in 2.0.13

[Customer & Technical Support]

How can I reset the digest in version 2.0.13 to Volume 1, Number 1 and then 
later how do I increment the Volume number when I want to go to Volume 2, etc?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Version 2.1.2 on Redhat Linux 7.3

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It is possible - I have it running on two different RedHat 7.3 servers.
You cannot, however, use the RedHat rpm for Mailman 2.1.2 from RedHat 8
or 9 and you will have to build Mailman from source (mailman.tar.gz) .
The version of python you have (python2-2.2.2-11) is probably current
enough and Mailman has to be configured with that version and not the
python-1.5.2-43 version. The thing to do would be to download
mailman.tar.gz from www.list.org and extract it and read the INSTALL
file. Hope this helps. 

David

On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 23:49, Ian Fenn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to run Version 2.1.2 of Mailman on Redhat Linux 7.3?
> 
> I asked my hosting provider and they wrote:
> 
> > Here is some information:
> > 
> > Your current versions are:
> > 
> > python-1.5.2-43.73
> > python2-2.2.2-11.7.3
> > mailman-2.0.13-1
> > 
> > All are already the latest supported versions for RedHat 7.3. What 
> > you probably need is python-2.2.2-26 or newer, with mailman-2.1-8 
> > which show the following dependencies and some others:
> > 
> > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by python-2.2.2-26
> > libcrypto.so.4   is needed by python-2.2.2-26
> > libdb-4.0.so   is needed by python-2.2.2-26
> > libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2)   is needed by python-2.2.2-26
> > libssl.so.4   is needed by python-2.2.2-26
> > python >= 1.6 conflicts with postgresql-python-7.2.3-5.73
> > python = 1.5.2 is needed by mx-2.0.3-1
> > python = 1.5.2-43.73 is needed by python-devel-1.5.2-43.73
> > python = 1.5.2-43.73 is needed by python-tools-1.5.2-43.73
> > /usr/bin/python1.5   is needed by up2date-2.8.39-1.7.3
> > 
> > It seems like RedHat currently does not support an upgrade of this 
> > magnitude, phyton and mailmax sould be compiled from source RPMs, 
> > that, personally I wouldn't be familiar with. This plus the fact
> > of binding them together...
> 
> So, they don't sound too hopeful.
> 
> Any advice would be much appreciated.
> 
> Many thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman

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I am afraid I'd have to agree with Dirk. I think most of the subscribers on
this list REALLY like to help others - I know I do. But this is not a Linux
tutorial mailing list and a basic knowledge of Unix is necessary. This IS a
situation where you should either hire someone or get your hands on a Linux
test box and have LOTS of time on your hands to experiment.

Sorry

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> Hy John,
>
> John Grafflin wrote:
> > First step - how do I get the Mailman code from the download site to my
> > website?
>
> I really don't want to offend you, John, but I think it's a really a
> bad idea to help someone lacking the basic knowledge to get something
> like mailman running. The result might be another open relay or open
> proxy!
> It would be better to hire someone for that purpose or rent a
> dedicated server which has mailman and everything else already
> installed and pay for the administration including the updates.
>
> Yust my 2 EuroCent!
>
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>
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1 w/ RH 7,2 virtual hosts

[support]

I have searched the archives and docs... But I am really stuck on chuck.

Is there a pretty concise how to for installing Mailman on a Redhat 7.2
box using named based virtual hosts in a chroot environment with
safemode on?

What I want to do is install mailman (rpm or ./configure) on the server
(I have root access) allow all of the domains on the box to use it as
their own.  (kind of how squirrelmail does for accessing domain mail).

Does any one have a step by step proceedure for accompishing this task.
I have tried a number of things for other os's etc. but nothing seems to
work.  

If anyone has this config working let me know!!!

Then I also have an ensim box I need to do the same things to. But I can
probably figure that out if the first one works.



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[Mailman-Users] list.org down ??

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Hi -

I've been subscribed to this list for a few weeks, with the idea that I
might switch from Listproc to Mailman in the near future.  I've noticed,
like others on this list, that the list.org website has been inaccessible
for the past three days (at least).  Nslookups from several different
servers yield a "*** Can't find list.org: No answer" message.  I can
access all other websites that I've tried for several days.

Does anyone know why list.org is down?  This certainly makes me hesitate 
before making a decision about using Mailman.

Thanks-
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Re: [Mailman-Users] A Known bug with confirmation string & excessive bounces

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Altho I haven't seen the problem on any of the lists I run on my own
server, I have experienced this exact problem on both mailman-users and
mailman-developers lists here.  

What gets me about this is that altho it says I'm generating excessive
bounces, I get the bounce notification just fine.  But when I hit the URL,
it gives me an invalid confirmation string.  Also, I appear to be receiving
email from both lists just fine until I get these notices.

I might suggest that a change be made to the code that when these excessive
bounce notices are sent, that the most recent bounce message be included
with the notice.  There is no reason for my mail to bounce.  I've NEVER had
mail bounce before.   I suspect that the bouncing mail is probably really
an address above or below mine in the database and that the excessive
bounce process is off by one in the subscriber list when it decides to cut
someone off, and as a result I get cut off instead of the address next to
me which is the one that's really bouncing.  Having the most recent bounce
included in the notification would allow me, as a user, to take steps to
prevent the bounces in the future, and prove whether it really was me or
not that was bouncing.  Otherwise this is a fairly unfriendly action being
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Re: [Mailman-Users] master-qrunner.pid

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Someone asked about the content of the qrunner log and another some other
questions about processes and such, as well as the status of the archives.

The archives are a bit behind.  The last seven messages to the list have
yet to appear in the archive pages.  In fact, I notice a huge time lag
between the last message date and the last archive time, as shown at the
bottom of the archive page when sorted by date.

Last message date: Sun Feb 2 19:39:42 GMT 2003
Archived on: Sun Feb 2 21:28:56 GMT 2003

Here's the qrunner log for the date that it apparantly last shut down and
required a manual start...

Jan 10 00:00:21 2003 (74407) CommandRunner qrunner started.
Jan 29 06:06:47 2003 (74386) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 29 06:06:47 2003 (74386) ArchRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 29 06:06:47 2003 (97045) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 74386, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) 
Jan 29 06:06:54 2003 (74397) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 29 06:06:54 2003 (74397) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 29 06:06:55 2003 (97045) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 74397, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) 
Jan 29 06:07:02 2003 (74388) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 29 06:07:02 2003 (74388) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 29 06:07:02 2003 (97045) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 74388, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) 
Jan 29 06:07:10 2003 (74407) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 29 06:07:10 2003 (74407) CommandRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 29 06:07:10 2003 (97045) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 74407, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) 
Jan 29 06:07:23 2003 (74387) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 29 06:07:23 2003 (74387) BounceRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 29 06:07:23 2003 (97045) Master watcher caught SIGTERM.  Exiting.
Jan 29 06:07:23 2003 (74405) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 29 06:07:23 2003 (74405) VirginRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 29 06:07:23 2003 (74395) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 29 06:07:23 2003 (74395) NewsRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 29 06:07:24 2003 (97045) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 74387, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) 
Jan 29 06:07:24 2003 (97045) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 74395, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) 
Jan 29 06:07:24 2003 (97045) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 74405, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) 
Feb 02 04:37:14 2003 (87886) BounceRunner qrunner started.

As for the process into, here's the output from a top command, which should
take care of that...

Jan 09 07:00:46 2003 (82843) NewsRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 09 07:00:46 2003 (82837) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 82845, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1)   
Jan 09 07:00:46 2003 (82837) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit

last pid: 671506432;  load averag 0.16,  0.35,  0.470.49
  up 24+18:50:21  01:53:03
25 processes:  1 running, 24 sleeping
CPU states:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice,  0.8% system,  0.0% interrupt, 98.8% idle
Mem: 613M Active, 146M Inact, 154M Wired, 48M Cache, 112M Buf, 44M Free
Swap: 1024M Total, 30M Used, 994M Free, 2% Inuse

It should be noted that this is a virtual server. 



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[Mailman-Users] master-qrunner.pid

[VLists.Net Support]

We've had several instances lately where Mailman 2.1 just dies silently and
no more mail goes out.  I've resorted to putting a cron job in that
restarts mailmanctl but when that happens I get the following returned...

Shutting down Mailman's master qrunner
PID unreadable in: /usr/home/circle/usr/local/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid
[Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/usr/home/circle/usr/local/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid'
Is qrunner even running?

Sure enough, the pid file is missing, and the restart has no effect.  I
have to actually stop mailmanctl and then start it.  Not a restart, but a
stop/start process.  Then everything in the qfiles/in gets processed and it
goes on its way again for a few hours until it dies.

I'm running Python 2.1.3 and Mailman 2.1 Final on FreeBSD 4.4

Any ideas?



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[Mailman-Users] Re: senddigests -> LookupError: unknown encoding

[VLists.Net Support]

After playing with this a bit, I've found that it's specificly because of
the Windows-1252 charset not being recognized.  The linefeed/tab in the
header didn't make any difference as it choked on another message that
didn't have the linefeed/tab, but was also Windows-1252 charset.

Now...  a new problem has cropped up.  One of my list members posts to the
list using the TWIG webmail program and that program does not add
Content-Type: header at all.  Therefore when her mail message, which is
actually US-ASCII plain text, is digested, it comes out with...

non-text attachment stripped

and no message body at all. That's kinda wrong because 1) it was text, and
2) it wasn't an attachment.

Both of these are bugs that need to be addressed pretty quickly, if possible.



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RE: [Mailman-Users] Changing list headers

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-> On 12:22 PM 1/23/2003 -0800, Tom Maddox was quoted as saying...:

->In addition to this problem, the Reply-To: header includes the short list
->description (not the title but the description).  Is there any way to change
->*that*?

Here, Here!  The "short list description" isn't so short in some cases and
really botches up the reply line.



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[Mailman-Users] senddigests -> LookupError: unknown encoding

[VLists.Net Support]

A couple days ago our digests stopped going out automatically.  I forced it
to run this morning via a special cron entry and received the following
report.  Can anyone give me a clue as to where to go find out what's
happening?Thanks.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/home/circle/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "/usr/home/circle/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File "/usr/home/circle/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60,
in send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/home/circle/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py",
line 130, in send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/home/circle/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py",
line 319, in send_i18n_digests
b += unicode(t, cset, 'replace').encode(lcset, 'replace')
LookupError: unknown encoding



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Instaling Mailman - almost working but...

[Obantec Support]

See comment in your body.

- Original Message -
From: "David Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Instaling Mailman - almost working but...


> Hello
>
> I'm installing Mailman 2.0.13 on a "Virtual Server". I have no real
> experience of the command line or Unix so getting this far is pretty good
> going!
>
> I have got as far as creating the list "test" and received a mail from
> Mailman saying my new list is set up. I cannot however access the admin
> pages in that mail.
>
> >You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:
> >
> >http://mydomain1.tld/mailman/admin/test
>
> The FAQs suggest that 404 not found errors are down to not configuring
> the Apache httpd.conf file, but I do have the following lines
>
> >
> >ServerName mailman.mydomain1.tld
> >ServerAdmin mailman.mydomain1.tld
> >DocumentRoot /home/mailman
> >ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/
> >Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public/
> >

I would not have made a virtualhost for mailman.

Lets assume you have want mailman for all hosts then keep virtualhosts as
before and simple add required additions

so in your case (assuming www convention)

VirtualHost www.mydomain1.tld>
ServerName www.mydomain1.tld
ServerAlias mydomain1.tld

just for completeness but not necessary howerver i prefer to add it. (you
could include mailman.mydomain1.tld as well)

ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot /home/www.mydomain1.tld
^^^
Note you will have to adjust this to suit your virtual host paths not the
mailman paths as they have nothing to do with your hosts.

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/
Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public/




> My first query is whether I need the DNS updated to point
> mailman.mydomain1.tld to mydomain1.tld. (For example http://
> www.mydomain1.tld reaches my web pages but http://mydomain1.tld takes you
> to my servers default domain (myserver.myhost.tld). I need a CNAME entry
> for mailman.mydomain1.tld perhaps?

missing ServerAlias but DNS ok as it finds your server. (you can add an A or
CNAME for mailman subdomain if you are still going to use it.

> Next sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work. The
> message is cought by my 'catch-all' mailbox although I have set "test-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman" in the virtusertable. (And done gen-
> virtusertable)

Work on that later get interface up first (IMHO) post a new question once
web up.

> I don't really understand the URLs Mailman gives in the "Your new mailing
> list" message. I can see why it's <http://mydomain1.tld/mailman/listinfo/
> test>. But thase pages don't exist on my server. Attempting to reach them
> via http://myserver.myhost.tld/mailman etc doen't work either.

Partly the missing ServerAlias but www.mydomain1.tld/mailman/listinfo/
should work since mailman is script alias for the cgi-bin under mailman dir
and listinfo is the script it runs.

in my opinion the URL http://mailman.mydomain1.tld/mailman/listinfo/ would
be over long and ugly.
but would work with mods i suggested.


> So as far as I can see this is either a DNS problem on my setup or I've
> missed something somewhere...

Mixed!

> Any clues or ideas welcome!
>
> Thanks
>
> DG
>

Hope that helps in part.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't subscribe via web

[Support]

Ok, I think that worked.

I noticed that adding the cron job was IMPERATIVE but I never thought
that it would hinder subscriptions. It says YOU'LL BE SORRY IF YOU DON'T
which I took as not completely necessary.

DEVELOPERS:  Why don't you just add the cron jobs as a NECESSARY part of
the installation. I've noticed that a few other people may have had
similar problems. Or in FAQ add "Syslog says subscription email sent
but, I'm not added to the list, why?" Answer "Install the cron job" 

thanx for you help.



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> Support wrote:
> 
> > I created a test list and tried subscribing via the web interface. I get
> > an email requesting that I reply as confirmation. I reply but don't get
> > a confirmation email back and my email is not listed as a member.
> 
> Did you install the crontab?
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[Mailman-Users] Can't subscribe via web

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Hi,

Im running mailman-2.0.13, RH 7.2, Sendmail, apache1.3.26, UW-IMAP,
python-1.5.2

I created a test list and tried subscribing via the web interface. I get
an email requesting that I reply as confirmation. I reply but don't get
a confirmation email back and my email is not listed as a member.  I
look at the mailman logs and just see 'pending' for my email. I look at
the /var/log/maillog and I see this

###-The subscribe request

Oct 25 12:15:11 correo sendmail[25608]: g9PJF7e25608:
from=, size=1820, class=-60, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<20021025191507.25606.34268.Mailman@MYMAIL_SERVER>, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
Oct 25 12:15:11 correo sendmail[25608]: g9PJF7e25608:
to=, delay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=139820,
stat=queued


###--The email is sent

Oct 25 12:15:19 correo sendmail[25610]: g9PJF7e25608:
to=, delay=00:00:08, xdelay=00:00:03,
mailer=esmtp, pri=229820, relay=mailin-02.mx.netscape.net.
[205.188.158.57], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK)

###--My reply 

Oct 25 12:16:32 correo sendmail[25616]: g9PJGRe25616:
from=, size=1858, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA, relay=imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]

###My reply delivered (stat=Sent?)

Oct 25 12:16:55 correo sendmail[25623]: g9PJGRe25616:
to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist",
ctladdr= (8/0), delay=00:00:24,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=121858, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

###-


It says that the reply was recieved but the actual subscription never
takes place. Can anyone shed some light here?

thanx,





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

[Web Support]

Log in to:
[ List Administration | Membership Management ]
Membership List ...

"UN"check the boxes under "subscr" column,
corresponding to each member you want to nuke; then:
[ Submit Your Changes ].

All members corresponding to the boxes you unchecked will be
unsubscribed enmass.

- Original Message -
From: CEO
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:24 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Help


I am a new user to mailman,Is it possible to do a mass unsubscribe, if so,
what do I have to do?

Regards

Rod Drew
CEO Field and Game Australia



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[Mailman-Users] no subscription confirmation response

[Support]

hi,

I configured mailman to use gid 12 (mail) since it would
 not let me do it with gid 0 (root)
 Everything goes well until I reply to the 1st confirmation. I never get an
email saying that Ive been added to the list.

 I check the mailman logs and nothing there helps however I look at the
 sendmail logs and I get this.

### message sent asking for a reply
 Aug 26 05:23:11 cvd-bs3-8 sendmail[12116]:
g7QCN9m12114:to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:02,
xdelay=00:00:02,mailer=esmtp, pri=139793,
relay=mailin-03.mx.netscape.net.[64.12.137.249], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK)

### reply revieved
Aug 26 05:23:38 cvd-bs3-8 sendmail[12119]:
g7QCNbm12119:from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1883, class=0,
nrcpts=1,msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP,daemon=MTA, relay=imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]

### entry from aliases refering to the
Aug 26 05:23:38 cvd-bs3-8 sendmail[12120]:
g7QCNbm12119:to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist",
 ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0),
delay=00:00:00,xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31196, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

 ###--
 this is what is what's in my alias file

 mailman: root
 mail-owner: mailman


 ## testlist mailing list
 ## created: 22.Aug.02 mailman
 testlist: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post testlist"
 testlist-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner testlist"
 testlist-request: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist"
 testlist-owner: testlist-admin

 ###
 This is what's in my httpd.conf file (apache_1.3.26)


 Alias /pipermail/ "/home/mailman/archives/public/"

 
 Options FollowSymLinks
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all


ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/home/mailman/cgi-bin/"


 Options None
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all
   

 ###-

 This is the symlink in /etc/smrsh

 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   26 Aug 22 15:21 wrapper ->
 /home/mailman/mail/wrapper

 ##-


 from the sendmail logs it seems that the testlist-request alias is not
 resolving or something.  Can anyone tell me what's going wrong here. Do
 i have all other configurations done
 correctly??

 thanx,

 PS yes I know I shouldn't post real ip's and such but Im too lazy to
 change them.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to mass unsubscribe members

[Web Support]

 
Log in to:[ List Administration | Membership Management ]Membership 
List ..."UN"check the boxes under "subscr" column,corresponding to 
each member you want to nuke; then:[ Submit Your Changes ].All 
members corresponding to the boxes you unchecked will be
unsubscribed enmass. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  David Luu 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 3:48 
  PM
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] how to mass 
  unsubscribe members
  Hi,I know there is a mass subscribe option in 
  membership management to subscribe people. Is there also a way to mass 
  unsubscribe these 
  people?David_

[Mailman-Users] no subscription confirmation response

[Support]

hi,
I configured mailman to use gid 12 (mail) since it would
 not let me do it with gid 0 (root)
 Everything goes well until I reply to the 1st confirmation

> I check the mailman logs and nothing there helps however I look at the
> sendmail logs and I get this. 
> 
> 
> Aug 26 05:23:11 cvd-bs3-8 sendmail[12116]: g7QCN9m12114:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:02,
> mailer=esmtp, pri=139793, relay=mailin-03.mx.netscape.net.
> [64.12.137.249], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK) 
> Aug 26 05:23:38 cvd-bs3-8 sendmail[12119]: g7QCNbm12119:
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1883, class=0, nrcpts=1,
> msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
> daemon=MTA, relay=imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35] 
> Aug 26 05:23:38 cvd-bs3-8 sendmail[12120]: g7QCNbm12119:
> to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist",
> ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:00,
> xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31196, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent 
> 
> ###-- 
> this is what is what's in my alias file 
> 
> mailman: root 
> mail-owner: mailman 
> 
> 
> ## testlist mailing list 
> ## created: 22.Aug.02 mailman 
> testlist: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post testlist" 
> testlist-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner testlist" 
> testlist-request: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist" 
> testlist-owner: testlist-admin 
> 
> ### 
> This is what's in my httpd.conf file (apache_1.3.26) 
> 
> 
> Alias /pipermail/ "/home/mailman/archives/public/" 
> 
>  
> Options FollowSymLinks 
 AllowOverride None 
 Order allow,deny 
 Allow from all 
 
 
>ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/home/mailman/cgi-bin/" 
> 
> 
> Options None 
> AllowOverride None 
> Order allow,deny 
> Allow from all 
>
> 
> ###- 
> 
> This is the symlink in /etc/smrsh 
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   26 Aug 22 15:21 wrapper ->
> /home/mailman/mail/wrapper 
> 
> ##- 
> 
> 
> from the sendmail logs it seems that the testlist-request alias is not
> resolving or something.  Can anyone tell me what's going wrong here. Do
> i have all other configurations done 
> correctly?? 
> 
> thanx, 
> 
> PS yes I know I shouldn't post real ip's and such but Im too lazy to
> change them. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] A long URL - 2 lines - second line is not clickable.

[MISTER Support Desk]

So, using html email this problem is overcome by hiding the 
overly long url in the source code; but, then, there are those
who complain about html email, or, use inferior mail readers
that don't have a clue how to read html. 
 
This url is too long: click 
here!
SD

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Wang, 
  Mary Y 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:22 
  PM
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] A long URL - 2 
  lines - second line is not clickable.
  Hi,I am using Mailman 2.0.6-1 and 
  Sendmail-8.11.6-3.  My users are complainingabout the line wrap 
  problem when send mailing mail to the mail list with along URL.  It 
  seems line wraps text lines that are longer than 80 characterswith no 
  white-space.  If you include a long URL in a email message itusually 
  gets split onto separate lines and the typical email reader withinBCA 
  (exchange) marks the first part of the link as clickable when usually 
  itisn't.  People have to paste the whole link back together manually 
  in a webbrowser input dialog to get it to work.First, I thought it 
  maybe a Sendmail problem. So I tried send a mail viaSendmail with a long 
  URL and it appears to be fine.  The long URL did splitinto two lines, 
  and the second line is still highlighted as a href link, sothere was no 
  problem.  By clicking the link, the browser would bring up thecorrect 
  information.  However, sending an email to the mail list is a 
  different problem.  For example,http://labtest.ca.boeing.com/~psim/NewRtPlatform/test_plate_form_notes.07_18_02.html 
  will show up with 2 lines and the second line would be ml andwouldn't be 
  highlighted as part of the URL that is clickable.Any 
  clue?Thanks for any help.  We had this problem for about a 
  year.  I finally got achance to look into it now.  Mary 
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[Mailman-Users] Anyone's solution to 'WANTED gid 0, GOT gid 12' problem

[Support]

Hi,

 Ive been having the same problem as some other people with user
subscription problems. I try to subscribe but get a message like this in
return

--
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist"
   (reason: 2)
   (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

  - Transcript of session follows -
Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 0, GOT gid 12.  (Reconfigure to take
12?)
554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2
---

Ive tried many suggestions but I haven't gotten it to work.


Has anyone figured this problem out? what was your solution.

thanx



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe like majordomo or listserv

[MISTER Support Desk]

I suspect you are looking to query multiple lists? Not available.
Autoresponders are specific to each list.

List-Help: 
List-Post: 
List-Subscribe: ,
 
List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users 
List-Unsubscribe: ,


List-Archive: 
=
List of public lists on specific server is available as a web page,
but not autoresponder:
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

SD

- Original Message -
From: "zeek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:30 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe like majordomo or listserv


|
| Greetings,
|
| I asked this question earlier but I don't think it was clearly
articulated.
| Since then I've searched far and wide for answers but have not found them.
|
|
| I'd like to provide a single address that would make queries to all lists
| available [EMAIL PROTECTED] won't suffice.  This address would
| allow for such commands as "help," "lists," "show ," and etc. As
| far as I can tell there is no way to do this with mailman at this time. If
| there is and I'm overlooking it, please let me know. If there really
isn't,
| is this slated as a future feature? Hey, that sounds kinda funny.
|
| Cheers,
| -zeek
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple unsubscribes

[MISTER Support Desk]

Log in to:
[ List Administration | Membership Management ]
Membership List ...

"UN"check the boxes under "subscr" column,
corresponding to each member you want to nuke; then:
[ Submit Your Changes ].

SD

- Original Message -
From: Davin Dahlgren
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:07 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Multiple unsubscribes


Does anyone know if there is a way to unsubscribe several subscribers at one
time? Is there a web interface for this, or perhaps a way to set one up?

Thanks.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] New User looking for unsubscribe details

[MISTER Support Desk]

To unsubscribe: (watch for wrapping, link needs to be all on one line!)

(
mailto:LIST_NAME-request@YOUR_DOMAIN?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe%20
YOUR_PASSWORD ) Substitute your list name for: LIST_NAME
Substitute the server name where list is run for: YOUR_DOMAIN
Substitute the member's password for: YOUR_PASSWORD
be sure to leave a "space" after unsubscribe in the body of message.

For Help autoresponse:

mailto:LIST_NAME-request@YOUR_DOMAIN?subject=help&body=%20

MrSD

- Original Message -
From: "Nathan Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] New User looking for unsubscribe details


| Excuse me for the simple question, I have read all the documentation I can
| find, however I cannot find how a user can unsubscribe EXCEPT through the
| web site interface.
|
| Can a user simple reply to the email and have subscribe in the subject
line?
|
| I want to make it as simple as possible for my users (which I am going to
| port over from Lyris)
|
| Thanks
| Nathan
| _
|
| Nathan Allan
|
| Product and Services Manager
| Sausage


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

[Support Desk]

No insinuation was made, that GPL "prevents" paid support. 

There are hundreds, probably thousands of companies world
wide, whether on the NYSE, or small business operators, 
who host sites & already have Mailman installed. Anyone
who thinks they can "host" from their basement, using DSL 
or Cable, is sadly misinformed, when for a couple dollars 
a week, they can obtain 100Mb or more, and run Mailman 
and a dozen other software packages, host their site, email, 
etc, and receive "support" from the hosting provider. 

Compared to "paid" support from the big guys, which can be 
$25 or more "per incident" it's more reasonable than attempting 
a do it yourself project using a slow, unreliable connection. Anyone
willing to pay for support, should get their full money's worth, and
receive a reliable connection, bandwidth, space, software, etc. 
SD 


- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Basener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?


| To risk sliding into an OT area, it is not unreasonable for someone to
| offer to pay for support for an open source product.  Certainly nothing
| in the GPL prevents taking payment to provide support for a GPL
| product.  There are even some firms out there that are traded on the
| NYSE whose business is based nearly entirely on that concept.
| 
| Dave Basener
| 
| On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 07:54, Support Desk wrote:
| > 
| > Ha, ha.. This is open source, not microsloth, there is
| > no "paid" support option..
| > 
| > SD
| > 
| > - Original Message -
| > From: "Steve Shultz " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:23 AM
| > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?
| > 
| > 
| > | We are downloading Mailman on our Linux box. Is there paid technical
| > | support available?
| > |
| > | Steve Shultz
| > | Albany, Oregon
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

[Support Desk]

Ha, ha.. This is open source, not microsloth, there is
no "paid" support option..

Personally, I find DSL and Cable lines too unreliable.
The only "paid" support you can get for Mailman is by
hosting your site on one of the thousands of real
full time hosting providers who offer Mailman as part
of their hosting packages.  Many offer accounts for
only a few dollars per month, with 99% + uptime.

"Access" providers, who "give" you free space with
your account, do not guarantee uptime, their "hosted"
sites are generally slow, because 98% of their bandwidth
is dedicated to "access" not "hosting" .

A  search for "host mailman" on Google will give you
hundreds of hits of hosts that have Mailman installed.
SD

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Shultz " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:23 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?


| We are downloading Mailman on our Linux box. Is there paid technical
| support available?
|
| Who can tell us what the capacity is on a 1-meg. out dsl line---that is,
| how many, on the average emails can be sent via Mailman?
|
| Are there issues with AOL and other ISP's that we must be aware of-- in
| order not to be labeled as spam?
|
| What experts can we consult with?
|
| P.S. Can we use two computers and/or two dsl accounts at the same time,
| to mail to large mailing lists? Will that work?
|
| thanks,
|
| Steve Shultz
| Albany, Oregon
|
| I have a list that within weeks will go to 75,000 readers twice each
| day, but sometimes, on certain days, 5-6 times a day. I want to use a
| dsl line to do it. whattayathink?
|
| Steve
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[Mailman-Users] Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 0, GOT gid 12. (Reconfigure totake 12?)

[Support]

Hi,

I set up mailman 2.0.12 on RH7.3 running sendmail.(sendmail running as
root, apache as nobody,mailman running as mailman)

i created a list, allowed FollowSymLinks in pipermail alias in apache,
added the appropriate aliases in the /etc/aliases file, and added a
symlink /etc/smrsh/wrapper -> /home/mailman/mail/wrapper


When i try to subscribe a test user to the list I get a subscribe
notice, I reply, then I get an email with this error.


###-
The original message was received at Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:29:20 -0700
from imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]

  - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist"
   (reason: 2)
   (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

  - Transcript of session follows -
Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 0, GOT gid 12.  (Reconfigure to take
12?)
554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2




Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 2
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:29:23 -0700


###-


I looked this up in the mailman archive and they say that it's a postfix
problem where postfix executes the wrapper as the owner of the aliase
file(root)and the remedy is to change the owner to mailman but, 

1- im not running postfix
2- is changing the owner of /etc/aliases to mailman a good idea?

is there another way of solving this

thanx,










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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman

[Support Desk]

Ha! You self-righteous hippo-crit! http://PaulsFunHouse.com/ initiates a
pop-up for "adult" lists "Pure-Humor".. And carries links for "adult humor"?
Give us a break! Yeah, maybe Tom's reply was little tough, maybe Tom
was having a bad day, but sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, pal.

You really think anyone here will miss you? You think you are depriving
us of anything by leaving? Certainly no monetary loss, since Mailman
is open source.

BTW: list is not moderated, it's one of those values in the USA called
freedom of speech! Don't let the CD-ROM door hit your behind on your
way out.

SD


- Original Message -
From: "Paul Croft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman


| Maybe that is the case Tom...but I think your reply was a little bit
| harshhave you NEVER asked a "stupid" question in your life?  Maybe NOT
| everyone is as intelligent as you are!
|
| To the moderators...if this is an acceptable reply to a question on this
| list...then I will now be taking my leave of this list and finding an
| alternative!
|
| Paul
|
| At 11:19 PM 07/08/02, Tom Whiting wrote:
| >This is a case of RTFM (Read the &*^##%^ manual).
| >This is all covered there.
| >Make sure that sendmail (or your MTA) is pointing to yourhost.com and
will
| >accept mail for yourhost.com however
| >On Wednesday 07 August 2002 11:09 pm, Aris Santillan wrote:
| > > hello guys
| > >
| > > why is it my mailman is binded to
| > > localhost.localdomain ?
| > > how can i change it to my real
| > > domain?
| > >


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman don't send subscription confirmation email

[Support]

Ive been having trouble with that also, among other things.

when you create a list via $prefix/bin/newlist

it runs you thru a little questionaire.  what is the list's name, who is the
admin?

it then tells you to add this the your /etc/aliases file.

###-- Mailman List Aliases

## test mailing list
## Created: 18-Jul-2002 mailman
test:   "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test"
test-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"
test-request:   "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"
test-owner: test-admin


make sure you have this, and you have a symlink in
/etc/smrsh/wrapper -> $prefix/mail/wrapper (this hint is in the docs
somewhere)
you can add the wrapper with this command

shell> ln -s $prefix/mail/wrapper wrapper


---My problem is I get the confirmation message. I reply to it but don't get
added to the list

anyone know why.

thanx







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guillermo Soria
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman don't send subscription confirmation
email


Hi...

I been install Mailman 2.0.11-1 downloaded from RedHat
rpm's database, on a RedHat 7.1 server with sendmail
and iPop3 (Imap), I made test sending and reciving
mails trought shell's users and it works, but when I
tried to subscribe to Mailman list, the server doesn't
send me any mail for confirmation.

I tried make it work, changing the aliases but even it
doesn't work.

I have my /etc/aliases like this.

mailman: postmaster
mailman-owner: mailman

Is this right? or I need to make some changes...

thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem enforcing text/plain posts only policy

[Support Desk]

You replied without attachment, which leads to conclusion
that YOU have control of the option on your end. 

Mailman FAQ Entry



3.10. How do I enforce a text/plain posts only policy?

In Privacy Options -> Spam-specific posting filters 
Hold posts with header value matching a specified regexp. 


Content-Type: .*octet
Content-Type: .*oda
Content-Type: .*audio
Content-Type: .*image
Content-Type: .*alternative
Content-Type: .*digest
Content-Type: .*mixed
Content-Type: .*rich
Content-Type: .*html
Content-Type: .*video
Sample Rejection Message: 
  Content-Type: (from message header)
  X-Mailer: (from message header)
  Please configure your email client [1] to send text/plain messages to
  this list. Instead of attachments, you should include any diagnostic
  information as in-line text in the main message body.
  [1] http://www.expita.com/nomime.html
  Details:
  Only messages with a Content-type: of "text/plain" and
  "multipart/signed" are automatically posted to the list. All other
  content-types are held for administrative action.
  If you have any questions about this policy, please send them to
  .
An alternate solution is to use a mime stripping script. FAQ 1.8 
explains how to do this. 


SD 


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Support Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem enforcing text/plain posts only policy


| On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 14:03, Support Desk wrote:
| > Please do not send attachments to the list. 
| > They are deleted, unopened.
| > SD
| 
| Please fix your mail system not to sent such message to mailing lists.
| 
| And, btw, the attachment in question was a pgp signature. This is common
| on many lists, and I've not seen anybody complaining about it.
| 
| 
| cheers
| -- vbi
| 
| > 
| > - Original Message - 
| > From: "Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:50 AM
| > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem enforcing text/plain posts only policy
| -- 
| secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg
| 
| 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem enforcing text/plain posts only policy

[Support Desk]

Please do not send attachments to the list. 
They are deleted, unopened.
SD

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From: "Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem enforcing text/plain posts only policy

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Re: [Mailman-Users] wrapper not available for sendmail?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Philip White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:48 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper not available for sendmail?


> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> I created the a "etc-officers" mailing list, but when I try to subscribe
> to it from a different e-mail address, here's what I get in response to
> my confirmation reply:
> 
> 
> ~   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd etc-officers"
> ~(reason: service unavailable)
> ~(expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> 
> ~   - Transcript of session follows -
> smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
> 
> 
> I tried compiling Mailman with different mail-gids, like 0, 8
> (mailuser), 12 (mailgroup), but none of them work.  Any ideas?
> Thanks.
> - --
> Philip M. White
> Houston, TX; U.S.A.
> GPG key: 0xC2A34385
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> 
> iD8DBQE9M19J2SDcoMKjQ4URAoLhAJ91FazhqFwIr0Fj0T2OvGbvC3cXJQCfTyUp
> zGj9XMICbcY4jxThM9WzCtI=
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> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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readme.sendmail!

% cd /etc/smrsh
% ln -s /home/mailman/mail/wrapper wrapper

Mark









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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Double Opt-In?

[Support Desk]

Well, Will, here's said article you were so "unable" to 
"connect to" http://www.spamfaq.net/spam-evils.shtml#opt_in 
which, for anyone with lots of time on their hands, who have
nothing better to do than read lengthy diatribes by radical
anti-spammers, it's one in a long list of timewasters, but,
for a concise, to the point, understandable, definition which,
probably fits the scenario Michael was asking about see:
http://www.ibizbasics.com/online030601.htm 

Anyone going to a list sign-up form, and submitting:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] would yield **you** being
"opted-in" (subscribed) whether **you** wanted to or
not, or whether it was actually **you** who submitted
form. But, with "double opt-in" you would **only** be subscribed
**IF** you replied to a confirmation, hence, the term
"double opt-in" or as you prefer "confirmed opt-in". 

However, if a robot snakes it's way through the web, 
and harvests your email address and then adds it to a 
list or lists, without asking, then, you have neither "opted-in" 
nor "confirmed" since you were gratiously, and possibly,
maliciously added by the robot with no verification process. 

Therefore, your optin, er, I mean opinion; that ALL opt-in
that is "actually" opt-in is "confirmed," is not logical. 

SD 

- Original Message - 
From: "Will Yardley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:23 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Double Opt-In?


| David Gibbs wrote:
| > "Michael Keukert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| 
| > > I'm using Smartlist at the moment, but I need a mailing list manager
| > > which provides double opt-in features.
| > > Does Mailman has it?
| > 
| > Based on the definition of double opt-in that someone pointed me to, I would
| > say the answer is yes.
| 
| Note that "double opt-in" is a loaded term, used mostly by spammers.
| ALL opt-in that's actually "opt-in" is confirmed 'confirmed opt-in'
| is also a good term.
| 
| I can't connect to it right now, but there is a more detailed
| explanation of the term (and the anti-spam community's objections to it)
| at:
| http://www.spamfaq.net/
| 
| -- 
| Will Yardley
| input: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe/Un-Subscribe via e-mail, not web

[Support Desk]

Actually, a form like that could be dangerous; unscrupulous
bum could subscribe enemy to multiple lists at once, and
although the actual subscriptions would not activate, due
to Mailman's required confirmation process, it could easily
harass the receiver, and the list manager, for lists that
require manager approval, or that send the manager
notice of new subs/unsubs. That said, here are some links: 

Build a custom script for managing subscribers: 
http://subscriber.newfieldcash.com/ this is especially useful
for lists that are on mutiple servers, running multiple
listserve clients  
and is not specific to Mailman.  

Or, if you'd rather not spend $35 here's examples you 
could probably hack to suit your request, if you have more time
than money:   :-) 

http://www.kidsource.com/subscribe.html
http://htk.eng.cam.ac.uk/mailing/subscribe_mail.shtml
http://www.macperl.org/mpo/forms/unsubscribe.html 
http://www.macperl.org/mpo/forms/subscribe.html 

Have fun! 
SD 

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Updegraff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:41 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe/Un-Subscribe via e-mail, not web


| I wonder if I could take this a step further, and ask if anyone has a
| solution or a link to a web page example that will show how to allow
| someone to subscribe/unsubscribe from multiple Mailman lists by
| selecting "check boxes" for each list desired and selecting an option
| for "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" and a box to fill in their "email
| address" and "submit"
| 
| Has anyone done this?
| 
| Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions regarding Listserv service

[Support Desk]

- Original Message - 
From: "Emily Bohigian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Questions regarding Listserv service


I am on the market for a new listserv service and I had a few questions I
could not find answers to in the website:

Is Mailman accessible from email? 
What do you mean "accessible"? 
Mailman is a mailing list software which when properly installed on your 
server,
 delivers messages to subscribers VIA email. 

Do you mean, can subscribers send commands to the robot via email?
YES... 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subect=help 

Do you mean, can the administrator manage the list via email? 
NO, administration is via the web interface: or ssh 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/admin/mailman-users

How does a user unsubscribe from email? 
Access your list web page: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/cprg--at--cprg.net 
or by sending email from the account you wish to unsubscribe 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subect=unsubscribe 

Can the administrator bulk upload email addresses to the list?
YES, via the web interface.  

Can a user reply both publicly and privately?
YES, list administrator has the option of setting where replies go to,
if "to sender" replyer needs to "Reply to All" to send public reply, 
if 
"to list" replyer needs to paste the address of "sender" in the "To:"
box in place of the "List Address" of the reply. 

Is there digest and index capability?
YES (Pipermail) 

Are there ads on Mailman?  If so, are we paid for these ads? 
NO ads are included, but list owner may put own ads in the list 
header, 
footer, or listinfo page, and elsewhere.
Thanks for your help, 
WAIT! Here's your bonus help: 

Mailman quick reference guide: 
http://www.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-admin-quickref-0.2.html 

List manager's guide: 
 http://www.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-administration-v2.html 

Server administrator guide:
 http://www.list.org/admins.html 

User's (subscriber's) guide:
 http://www.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-userguide-0.1.pdf 

More than you ever wanted to know about Mailman:   :-) 
  http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html 


Emily

OK. Bye.. 
SD 












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[Mailman-Users] Mailman, Virtual Hosts and SUEXEC

[Support Desk]

I've heard from numerous resellers, who are unhappy that there
is an incompatibilty when Mailman runs in a virtual
hosting environment under SUEXEC.. Every reseller, every
customer of reseller, every domain on a machine has the
admin url of the server root domain. This is exposing the
customers of the resellers to the source of the hosting,
and is causing an uproar.. The server owners run suexec
for security, so, it's either expose the machine to hackers
by running mailman and others as root, or expose the
identity of the server owner to the customers of the resellers,
and there HAS to be a way to make mailman
run under suexec and still allow the url admin be the virtual
host, like it is without suexec!  
Please, is there any solution to this? 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Customization of "main" Mailman pages

[Support Desk]

Yeah, yeah, the python script in cgi/listinfo.py can be edited
to customize the listinfo page. OK? Don't recall anyone EVER
wanting to customize THAT PAGE, OK? You are on your
own, no tour available... Have fun! 
SD 

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Mektrakarn" 
To: "Support Desk" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Customization of "main" Mailman pages


NO! the question is how do you edit the MAIN listserv page where the lists are 
populated not the main page of a specific list. 

for example
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

THAT PAGE

not 

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/c++-sig

i think we all know how to edit a page like that.

-Original Message-
From: Support Desk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Customization of "main" Mailman pages



http://YOUR_DOMAIN/mailman/istinfo.html 
IS a list specific page (DUH!)

It IS the "main" page! (DUH!)

It is called the "General list information page" ... (DUH!) 

It is FULLY customizable! You don't like the pretty blue
and beige color scheme? Change it! You don't like the
Python Goat? Delete it! (DUH!) 

You customize it for your own list through admin at: 
http://YOUR_DOMAIN/mailman/edithtml/YOUR_LIST 
http://YOUR_DOMAIN/mailman/edithtml/YOUR_LIST/listinfo.html 
You type in or copy & paste your code in the box, and save it;
this changes the look of the page, if you want the page
to follow the look and feel of your site, if you want to add
a background, other links, buttons, scripts, add banners, 
change colors, add a pic of your girl friend, or whatever! 
you do that here!  
Note that any tag  is a Mailman tag, and you
may or may not wish to leave specific tags there. Just use
caution, maintain chronological backups of your changes
in case you screw anything up.. 

Do I need to give you a guided tour? 
Now go to your list admin
and L@@K on the right side, you see:
"Other Administrative Activities" under there is a link:
"Edit the HTML for the public list pages " Click it! Then click this link: 
"General list information page " Now, edit anything your little
heart desires! Then click [ Submit Changes ]  

Do you understand what I'm sayin'? 

Now, I need a drink... No charge for the guided tour.. ;-) 
SD


- Original Message - 
From: "Christiaan Keet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Customization of "main" Mailman pages


| 
| That's fine for customizing the per-list pages, I knew that.
| 
| My question was: how do you change the page you see when you go to
| www.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/ (_NOT_ a list-specific page) ?
| 
| - Christiaan
| 
| 
| On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:39:18PM -0400, Support Desk wrote:
| > 
| > Save the default page(s) to your computer, and edit  the
| > html  'till your heart is content, then copy and paste this
| > revised html into the corresponding text box for the page
| > you customized.. The admin page itself is not editable 
| > through these links, but head and foot, etc. are and
| > there are 4 editable pages here: 
| > http://YOUR_DOMAIN/mailman/edithtml/YOUR_LIST 
| > 
| > SD 
| > 
| > - Original Message - 
| > From: "Christiaan Keet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 6:04 PM
| > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Customization of "main" Mailman pages
| > 
| > 
| > | I'm convinced this has to be an FAQ, but I can't find it so here
| > | goes:
| > | 
| > | What's the best way to go about customizing the "main" Mailman pages
| > | (the stuff you see when you go to www.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/
| > | and .../admin/)?
| > | 
| > | - Christiaan
| 
| 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Customization of "main" Mailman pages

[Support Desk]

http://YOUR_DOMAIN/mailman/istinfo.html 
IS a list specific page (DUH!)

It IS the "main" page! (DUH!)

It is called the "General list information page" ... (DUH!) 

It is FULLY customizable! You don't like the pretty blue
and beige color scheme? Change it! You don't like the
Python Goat? Delete it! (DUH!) 

You customize it for your own list through admin at: 
http://YOUR_DOMAIN/mailman/edithtml/YOUR_LIST 
http://YOUR_DOMAIN/mailman/edithtml/YOUR_LIST/listinfo.html 
You type in or copy & paste your code in the box, and save it;
this changes the look of the page, if you want the page
to follow the look and feel of your site, if you want to add
a background, other links, buttons, scripts, add banners, 
change colors, add a pic of your girl friend, or whatever! 
you do that here!  
Note that any tag  is a Mailman tag, and you
may or may not wish to leave specific tags there. Just use
caution, maintain chronological backups of your changes
in case you screw anything up.. 

Do I need to give you a guided tour? 
Now go to your list admin
and L@@K on the right side, you see:
"Other Administrative Activities" under there is a link:
"Edit the HTML for the public list pages " Click it! Then click this link: 
"General list information page " Now, edit anything your little
heart desires! Then click [ Submit Changes ]  

Do you understand what I'm sayin'? 

Now, I need a drink... No charge for the guided tour.. ;-) 
SD


- Original Message - 
From: "Christiaan Keet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Customization of "main" Mailman pages


| 
| That's fine for customizing the per-list pages, I knew that.
| 
| My question was: how do you change the page you see when you go to
| www.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/ (_NOT_ a list-specific page) ?
| 
| - Christiaan
| 
| 
| On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:39:18PM -0400, Support Desk wrote:
| > 
| > Save the default page(s) to your computer, and edit  the
| > html  'till your heart is content, then copy and paste this
| > revised html into the corresponding text box for the page
| > you customized.. The admin page itself is not editable 
| > through these links, but head and foot, etc. are and
| > there are 4 editable pages here: 
| > http://YOUR_DOMAIN/mailman/edithtml/YOUR_LIST 
| > 
| > SD 
| > 
| > - Original Message - 
| > From: "Christiaan Keet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 6:04 PM
| > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Customization of "main" Mailman pages
| > 
| > 
| > | I'm convinced this has to be an FAQ, but I can't find it so here
| > | goes:
| > | 
| > | What's the best way to go about customizing the "main" Mailman pages
| > | (the stuff you see when you go to www.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/
| > | and .../admin/)?
| > | 
| > | - Christiaan
| 
| 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode bug in 2.1b2

[Support Desk]

Many admin settings and details are here: 
http://www.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-administration-v2.html 

For your specific question, this is not a bug, Mailman is not just
another out of the box, ready to go, software; there are many ways
to customize it, but you have failed complete your customization. 

Edit your list information pages to remove those links you do not
want YOUR subscribers to use: 
http://YOUR_SERVER/mailman/edithtml/YOUR_LIST 
which is accessable through your admin panel, contains "options" 
http://YOUR_SERVER/mailman/edithtml/YOUR_LIST/options.html
remove or  the digest button and mime/plaintext
options rows, and any other options you have disabled. 

You may wish to include a notice on list info page, and in footer or 
header informing subscribers that NO digest is available, although, 
some would question whether this is wise, it IS your list, to run the 
way you see fit. 

Although a few of your subscribers may send a help command to
the robot, and receive the command list, if you include the notice,
and they send a digest command anyway, then it's their fault for 
not reading your new custonized documentation. 

SD 

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Bengtson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:03 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode bug in 2.1b2


| Mailman 2.1b2 allows subscribers to select digest delivery mode - even
| if the list is set up not to deliver digests at all. What happens then
| is that these subscribers do not get any mail at all. The admin is not
| informed, but when the list of subscribers is browsed, he is informed
| that "there are certain subscribers who will not receive any mail", but
| not who these are, which means that he has to go through the entire
| roster by hand to find them. In my case, a list of 2600 subscribers.
| 
| This has to be regarded as a severe bug.
| 
| Why is it possible to select digest mode at all for a list which doesn't
| have digests enabled?
| 
| / Peter Bengtson
| 
| 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Documentation for list administration needed

[Support Desk]

 
To receive List-Help: (Auto responder sends you a 
complete list of commands.)
 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> 
(substitute the name of the list in 
place of YOUR_LIST_NAME and
substitute the name of domain where your list 
resides in place of YOUR_DOMAIN.EXT. )
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will invoke an autoresponse from the mailman-users list.  
 
It's a good idea to include some links in your monthly 
membership reminder message, and, in the heading 
or footing of messages that go to your list, as well 
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From: "Jeff @ HookedOnThe.Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 5:31 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Documentation for list administration needed


| I've been looking all over various web sites to find documentation on
| the email commands supported by Mailman.  That is, how does one
| subscribe/unsubscribe to a Mailman list via email?  What other
| operations (e.g., switch to digest or nomail) can be affected via
| email and what is the syntax?
| 
| Thanks in advance for your help.
| 
| Regards,
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[Mailman-Users] How to speed up Mailman?

[Support]

Hi,

I'm sending my large newsletter with more than 10 recipents at the
moment.

The traffic my machine produces is very low, so I think Mailman is sending
the mails very slow. So the first question is, how can i measure how fast it
is? Or how many mails are already sent.

I'm using sendmail on a Debian system. When i try hoststat i get a very
large list ...

I would be very happy about your help.

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Problem running Mailman on my Debian webserver

[Support]

Hello,

i installed Mailman on my webserver with apt-get install mailman

Everything works fine, i'm able to create new lists and so on.

My problem is that i'm not able to get access zu the directory over the web.
For example i create a list "testlist", then i get a mail with links to
listinfo and to the webconfiguration, but when i try to visit this links i
get a 404 from my server.

When i use lynx directly on my server when i'm logged in over ssh,
everything is ok ...

in short:
this works: http://localhost/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/testlist
but not this: http://mydomain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/testlist

firstly the link in the mail was also with localhost but then i changed
mm_cfg.py

What did i forget or what is wrong?

It would be very nice if someone could help me.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Change localhost.localdomain in /mailman/listinfo header?

[Support]

Hi

I think you will find you need to use
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME   = 'your_domain_here.net'
in mm_ cfg.py (add at last section as per comments in that file.)

I however have hacked admin and listinfo to show
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just a few more bits to tidy up but mailman is getting close to my solution
to virtual list.

Mark

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From: "Sharkey, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:27 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Change localhost.localdomain in /mailman/listinfo
header?


> Hi All,
>
> I've managed to successfully install Mailman and configure it
> to work with Postfix virtual domains.  One part seems to have
> me stumped, however.  In the /mailman/listinfo and /mailman/admin
> pages, there is a link that says
>
> "questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>
> or something like that.  WHERE do I change that localhost.localdomain?
> I've grepped for that string, and it only appears in Defaults.py, but
> I have overridden that in mm_cfg.py, yet it persists.  It's not
> list-specific - I think it's part of "MM-Subscribe-Start" or some
> thing like that in the listinfo.html template.
>
> Any suggestions would be welcomed!
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host

[Support]

Hi

Only problem with that is when you create and don't suppress the admin email
then the admin gets wrong url and addresses.

Mark

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From: "Raquel Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host


> On Tue, 14 May 2002 17:42:07 +0100
> Support "Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > When i run newlist it does not prompt for which virtual_domain the
> > list is
> > for.
> > I am using VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=1 but it creates the lists under
> > DEFAULT_HOST_NAME with
> > DEFAULT_URL
> >
> > Looks like another hack needed to make it useable under virtual
> > domains.
> >
> > Mark
>
> Mark,
>
> I was confused by that at first too.  However, going to "General
> Options", "Host name this list prefers" and the following question,
> you can change the virtual host for an individual list.
>
> --
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>
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>
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[Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host

[Support]

Hi

When i run newlist it does not prompt for which virtual_domain the list is
for.
I am using VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=1 but it creates the lists under
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME with
DEFAULT_URL

Looks like another hack needed to make it useable under virtual domains.

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[Mailman-Users] Lists not so private

[Support]

Hi

mailman 2.0.10

2 lists under 2 domains

first list is public so going to http://www.domain1.com/mailman/listinfo
shows domain1-list

However domain2-list (private) can be seen by using
http://www.domain1.com/mailman/listinfo/domain2-list

http://www.domain2.com/mailman/listinfo does not show private list however
it does if you use
http://www.domain2.com/mailman/listinfo/domain1-list public list but not
belonging to that domain!

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[Mailman-Users] Default.py mm_cfg.py problem

[Support]

version 2.0.10

Hi
I added 2 lines to end of mm_cfg.py to correct

DEFAULT_HOST_NAME
DEFAULT_URL

However when i access the virtual host mailman/admin it shows correct host
in top blue line myhost.com mailing lists - Admin Links
But the mailman-owner ignores the new hostname and uses the one from
Default.py
i.e. mailman-owner@DEFAULT_HOST_NAME

How do i fix this (other than changing it in Default.py)

Mark




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and large lists

[Antenna Support]

Dear Norbert,

This is indeed what was mailed to me last Friday, so I presume you are
right.

Greetings,

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On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Norbert Bollow wrote:

> > Just to warn you when importing e-mail addresses: there is a bug which
> > causes Mailman to loop if an imported address contains a & (we had this
> > problem when changing from majordomo to mailman lists and no solution has 
> > been provided as yet)
> 
> As the problem seems to have come from the '&' being interpreted
> as a shell metacharacter, I suspect that this problem can happen
> only if one uses Sendmail.py instead of SMTPDirect.py ...
> 
> (Is this correct?)
> 
> Greetings, Norbert.
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and large lists

[Antenna Support]

Dear Matt,

Just to warn you when importing e-mail addresses: there is a bug which
causes Mailman to loop if an imported address contains a & (we had this
problem when changing from majordomo to mailman lists and no solution has 
been provided as yet)

Tsjebbe
Antenna Foundation The Netherlands

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Matt Eckhaus wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone can give me information about how Mailman copes
> with very large lists - over 100,000 subscribers.
> 
> I'm considering using Mailman for our company newsletters, some of which
> have over 100k subscribers. I haven't found any examples of Mailman
> being used successfully in this kind of situation, so if you are doing
> it please let me know. On the other hand, if you don't think that
> mailman is suitable I'd love to hear about it too.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> PS. In case anyone is worried - this isn't for spam :)
> 
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[Mailman-Users] mailman loops because of & in an address

[Antenna Support]

Dear people,

We just experienced a loop: a message was sent many times because it
wasn't deleted in the /home/mailman/qfiles directory
The error mailed was:

/usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

sh: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: command not found
c... User unknown

It appeared that there was an address added to the list:
m&[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The loop could only be stopped by removing the .msg and .db file in the
qfiles directory. I also removed this address from the subscribers.

Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again?

We run mailman 2.0.6 on Redhat Linux and it seems on first sight an error
in the combination python/mailman.

Thanks for bothering,


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Re: [Mailman-Users] web interfaces for list creation

[Support]

Hi

I got 3 copies of your reply 3 minutes apart!

Guess i will wait for 2.1 to move from beta to final.

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From: "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] web interfaces for list creation 


> On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 21:44:57 +0100 
> support  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > ... has anyone got a link or code for creating lists via web inplace
> > of shell?  
> 
> This is a feature of 2.1.  
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] web interfaces for list creation

[Support]

Hi Thomas

Yes i am aware of cpanel having used cp3 a year ago.
However @ $99/month it is a little too expensive.
I don't have enough users to justify it as yet.

Mark

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Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] web interfaces for list creation


> Mark:
>
> there is a great Web interface integrated in Cpanel 3
http://www.cpanel.net
>
> Thomas Bartke
> ThB.Music Services, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Support
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] web interfaces for list creation
>
>
> Hi
>
> As subject , has anyone got a link or code for creating lists via web
> inplace of shell?
> I am comparing majordomo with mailman to decide which to use for my users.
> Don't want to re-write stuff that may exist.
>
> Mark
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[Mailman-Users] web interfaces for list creation

[Support]

Hi

As subject , has anyone got a link or code for creating lists via web
inplace of shell?
I am comparing majordomo with mailman to decide which to use for my users.
Don't want to re-write stuff that may exist.

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[Mailman-Users] I need some help

[SUPPORT]

I have just setup Mailman running on a Linux bix. Red Hat Seawolf, and i am
unable to get the web interface to even come up in my browser. Can someone
send me a list of config's to check for. ie settings for path to URL,
directory permissions and the such. I followed the INSTALL file to the tee
but saw nowhere as to how to configure Apache to use whichever the mailman
directory is.

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[Mailman-Users] Removing Messages from Archives

[GreenNet User Support]

We are running mailman with about 30 separate lists and need to know how
to remove postings from an archive.

Regards,

Phil Carr

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