Re: [Mailman-Users] compare lists setup
Le 22/03/2017 à 01:38, Julian H. Stacey a écrit : "Hirayama, Pat" wrote: I think that config_list is what you want: config_list -o list1config list1 config_list -o list2config list2 diff list1config list2config Thanks to jdd for asking, & Pat for answering, I too am using this to debug a troublesome list list. and if you want to get rid of comments http://dodin.info/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Doc.AfficherUnFichierSansLesCommentaires jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] compare lists setup
Le 21/03/2017 à 16:54, Hirayama, Pat a écrit : I think that config_list is what you want: config_list -o list1config list1 config_list -o list2config list2 diff list1config list2config thanks, it's exactly what I needed:-) jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] compare lists setup
Hello :-) Gmail recipient anti spam filters get me mad. After some work, I have one list that reaches the gmail recipients, good! but I have an other list that get bounces. same server, same domain. I guess I forgot some setup on the other list comparing on the web interface is very difficult. is there a way to read these setups directly on the server in a config file where I could make a diff? thanks jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to actively read the list online?
Le 12/07/2016 à 19:14, Stephen J. Turnbull a écrit : It would be better than pipermail, though, I think I prefer HyperKitty to GMane. sure, if you have mailman 3 suite :-) siome forums also have mialing list gateway, for example: https://doc.tiki.org/Forum+and+Mailing+List+Synchronization jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to actively read the list online?
Le 12/07/2016 à 09:09, Stephen J. Turnbull a écrit : The problem is that a typical web forum these days is not a static page, it's a web app that is self-refreshing. So as a forumn user, (...) being in vacantion, I didn't follow the hole thread, forgive me :-( but couldn't gmane be a solution? http://gmane.org/ jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman to inn gateway
Le 21/05/2016 19:02, Mark Sapiro a écrit : On 5/21/16 12:40 AM, jdd wrote: Mail<->News gateways -> mass_catchup to Yes and Submitting changes will start gating with the next new message. no result. This action produces no result until a subsequent post arrives at the news server. What does Mailman's fromusenet log say? no error May 21 19:00:03 2016 (7857) nothing new for list linux-31 May 21 19:00:03 2016 (7857) linux-31 watermark: 7 but something was wrong on the inn side, I couldn't even post to the group. Since I changed to group for a new one (new name), all works fine As I have mailman archives, I don't need news archives, so the group name is not really important but thanks to your notes I could make the system work. Your help is always very good thanks a lot jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman to inn gateway
Le 21/05/2016 05:23, Mark Sapiro a écrit : Is Mailman's cron/gatenews being run? The default crontab runs it every 5 minutes. It is required to gate from usenet to mail. the documentation is ambiguous https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Configuring%20cron%20to%20run%20with%20the%20correct%20privileges%2C%20troubleshoot%20cron%20error. says that this is needed only with 2.0, I have 2.1.21 I used: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMailman.html that is: [root prompt]# cd /usr/lib/mailman/cron [root prompt]# crontab -u mailman crontab.in now the test list works both ways. good. I completed my doc for the list linux-31, no result for any way Are the Mail<->News gateways settings other than linked_newsgroup the same for both lists? Does the linked_newsgroup exist on nntp_host? yes for both Are gateway_to_news and gateway_to_mail both set to Yes for both lists? surprisingly not. for linux-31 it was set to no. bad :-(. corrected Mail<->News gateways -> mass_catchup to Yes and Submitting changes will start gating with the next new message. no result. I could find a fix creating an other newsgroup (other name), and this one I could sync it with mailman. thanks jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mailman to inn gateway
Hello, I'm moving a server from openSUSE 13.1 to openSUSE Leap 42.1. Simply coping the config files do not get the expected result. It's probably something small, but I can't put my finger on it. list manager works fine with mailman + postfix. I use to have a news server (inn) as mail<>gateway and it worked my last notes said that mailman do all the job and is simple to configure. http://dodin.info/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Doc.Mailman#toc13 but now it's chaotic. for the list "test", it works from list to news, but not the other way round for the list linux-31, no result for any way any hint? thanks jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list
Le 20/03/2015 08:16, Peter Shute a écrit : Getting off the subject, do you mean selecting quoted text, or any text? I've never used an Android device, and I assumed that this kind of basic task would be easier than on an iPhone. Perhaps not. selecting old text to trim it. May be I have too large fingers :-( jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list
Le 20/03/2015 01:45, Mark Sapiro a écrit : This is a major hot-button issue for me, The above is only scratching the surface. smartphones makes things horrible, on android, selecting text for deletion is nearly impossible :-(( jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] archiving an other list
Le 21/11/2014 00:08, Mark Sapiro a écrit : Also, if the archive can be public, see http://www.mail-archive.com/. I know it, but it don't works (never receive the confirmation mail), I don't know why :-( is there anything I can do not to break anything :-) I think the above covers it. seen, thanks!! jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] archiving an other list
Le 21/11/2014 16:59, Mark Sapiro a écrit : to subscribe yourself. A list can have no members and will still accept and archive posts. oh, yes, I wanted to subscribe to have posts accepted :-) jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can Someone Explain This?
Le 09/05/2014 13:36, Larry Stone a écrit : I assume you are just a user of a list at ibiblio.org? If so, you can’t fix it. Ibiblio.org has Mailman installed incorrectly. They need to install it correctly. This problem affects all lists managed by this Mailman installation so I assume you have also not been receiving any postings from this list. ibiblio admins use to be very reactive, open a ticket... jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] inn gateway
Le 06/05/2014 20:30, Mark Sapiro a écrit : was written immediately after that message was queued by gate_news in Mailman's incoming queue, so it was delivered to the list. I don't understand what happened really, because the messages where *archived* but not délivered to the list!! as the newsgroup was nearly empty, I could use m.usenet_watermark = 0 and this seems to have solved the problem some notes about it here: http://dodin.info/wiki/index.php?n=Doc.Mailman#toc13 thanks -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] inn gateway
Le 06/05/2014 01:42, Mark Sapiro a écrit : The test list's high watermark for the newsgroup is 31. This means no posts prior to #32 in the newsgroup will be gated to the list. ok. I suspected some sort of thing like this Use bin/withlist and do the following $ bin/withlist -l test Loading list test (locked) The variable `m' is the test MailList instance m.usenet_watermark = None m.Save() - Cntrl-D to exit Unlocking (but not saving) list: test Finalizing $ ouch. I wouldn't have find this myself, great thanks, I will save this for future use also jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] inn gateway
Le 06/05/2014 01:42, Mark Sapiro a écrit : $ bin/withlist -l test well...I'm cursed :-( this worked with the test list, but not with the main list! same symptoms: list is linux-31 linux-31 newsgroup works linux-31 mailman list works post to the list go to the newsgroup but posts to the newsgroup do not reach the list fromusenet logs May 06 08:43:47 2014 (27035) linux-31: [1..12] May 06 08:43:47 2014 (27035) gating linux-31 articles [12..12] May 06 08:43:47 2014 (27035) posted to list linux-31: 12 May 06 08:43:47 2014 (27035) linux-31 watermark: 12 but /usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l linux-31 do not fix the problem sorry :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] inn gateway
Le 06/05/2014 17:10, Mark Sapiro a écrit : There is no problem with gate_news. gate_news says it delivered all 12 messages from the news group to the list. well... where are them? What's in Mailman's other logs? Were these posts to news that didn't come from the list in the first place? I post on news group and expect posts to show on list. works for test, not for linux-31 jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] inn gateway
Hello, I have now a running mailman and a running inn news server - only for mailing lists access (news.culte.org) I try to setup the gateway. in mailman, I wrote localhost as news server (the two apps are on the same machine) and test as test list. test list works test newsgroup works when I send a post to the test list, I see it in the news group but when I post in the newsgroup, I don't see it in the list! gateway to mail is ticked in the two lines in the administrative interface fromusenet log: s-r:~ # tail /var/lib/mailman/logs/fromusenet May 05 18:10:02 2014 (12680) test watermark: 31 May 05 18:10:02 2014 (12682) test: [1..0] May 05 18:10:02 2014 (12682) nothing new for list test May 05 18:10:02 2014 (12682) test watermark: 31 (there is nothing in the inn logs) the cron job is active ,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news any idea? It should be something obvious I miss :-( thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman
Le 30/04/2014 06:02, Stephen J. Turnbull a écrit : I don't *expect* anybody to remember this advice, but it *might* save somebody some hairpulling someday, so I mention it. :-) yes, postconf -n is very usefull testing these applications is very difficult, because many apps are implicated in ther same process, postfix, procmail, fetchmail, mailman, inn, the firewall for example I sent a handfull of test message, anyone arrived after the completion of postfix setup, all at the same time :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] moving mailman
Hello, I hate disturbing you :-(, but I can't manage it myself :-( my original mailman server broke. I had a backup. I loan a new hosted server, mailman is here: http://culte.org/mailman/listinfo the list test should be open. I followed all the infos to move mailman from here: http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030682, but only mostly, because the infos are old and my distribution is openSUSE, so some minor changes (for example wwwrun:mailman as owner) I try to summarize what I do here: http://dodin.info/wiki/index.php?n=Doc.Mailman#sDoc.Mailman_9 my problem is that mailman seems to work, I can create a mailing list, see the old archives, but I can't have any mail received by mailman... I receive the message if I try to subscribe a list, then nothing - I receive the confirmation message, but no acknowledgement. looks like the mail do not reach mailman. I openned the firewall for smtp, used genaliases.. what can I do? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman
Le 29/04/2014 18:43, Mark Sapiro a écrit : On 04/29/2014 08:39 AM, jdd wrote: I receive the message if I try to subscribe a list, then nothing - I receive the confirmation message, but no acknowledgement. looks like the mail do not reach mailman. Look at the logs from your mail server. Does it receive the message? If so, what does it do with it? well, I did it, finally. mailman was not guilty :-) it was postfix. some options (interfaces, for example) are not reset by postfix reload, but need a complete stop/start sorry to have disturbed, and thanks for a great piece of software jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman
Le 29/04/2014 18:55, Lindsay Haisley a écrit : Probably at least half the problems I see on this list, and several others I'm on, could be definitively addressed, if not completely solved, by reference to system or application logs. you are often true. But on this part it was not visible on the logs. and by the way logs are not always easy to find. Mailman's are not (on openSUSE) available in /var/log, but in /var/lib/mailman/logs I use postfix for ten years, now, mailman for a bit less, but still have problems... I try to write down most http://dodin.info/wiki/index.php?n=Doc.Mailman but every install have some different bit :-( but I read most of the mail I see here and this is very useful thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.
Le 16/04/2014 19:57, Larry Kuenning a écrit : also advising yahoo.com list subscribers to get a Gmail account (as free and easy to get as a Yahoo account) so to be sure all your mail a read by google :-) (of course may be yahoo do the same - why people can't use they ISP's mail?) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.
Le 16/04/2014 20:59, Brad Rogers a écrit : On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:31:25 +0200 jdd jdani...@free.fr wrote: Hello jdd, (... why people can't use they ISP's mail?) In case that's not a rhetorical question: Because every time you change provider, you would have to change email address too. does this occur often? I find too often many problems are caused by mass mail providers like gmail but it's not necessary to go further sorry to have begun this jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sub. Invitation digest option
Le 11/02/2014 21:40, Fred H Olson a écrit : Their full reply is below including discussion of tradeoffs. impressive, that's service! jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] receive your own posts problem
Le 11/04/2013 08:23, Mark Sapiro a écrit : You could try adding your voice to those who've already communicated with Google about this, but I suspect they think they're doing the right thing and aren't listening. it's probably possible to open a second gmail account (I know it's sometime annoyng) and check the list there :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] receive your own posts problem
Le 11/04/2013 17:14, Mark Sapiro a écrit : Neil Anuskiewicz wrote: I do have a second gmail just for checking my own posts! The thing is this is an informal list that I setup as a favor for a small organization. A number of the list members have gmail so I'm not concerned about this for me but for the subscribers. I'm the list admin so I want to make the experience as pleasant as possible for my subscribers. Unfortunately, it's probably not realistic for people to drop their gmail accounts. Are you saying you don't receive the post at your second gmail account either? If so, that is a different issue than the one in the FAQ we've been referring to. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9. I think he is saying that his mailing list subscribers subscribed to gmail do not receive a copy of they own mail. fir this we do not have any solution :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Making a Mailman legacy archive searchable?
Le 11/04/2013 18:14, David Roth a écrit : Anyone happen to have a URL to someone doing searchable Mailman archives, just so I could see what others have done as an example? Thanks! if the archive is public, a simple google site:XXX link should do the trick jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] accept not accepeted
Le 04/04/2013 14:50, Richard Damon a écrit : This is designed to handle cases where the list has alternate names that (...) thanks mail is sometime much more complicated than someone can imagine, but this list is extremely friendly and effective jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] accept not accepeted
Le 20/03/2013 20:23, Mark Sapiro a écrit : The headers in the admindb interface detail page are enough (click the message # link on the summary listing). well finally I received one such mail (it's more or less monthly :-) it appears to be from a subscriber mailing list (not mine). The from is in my to be accepted list, but its moderated. I would like to have these mails accepted without moderation (but not all bulk messages from anywhere :-(). part of the headers below (I removed the domain part of the amails adresses). Can I manage this? thanks jdd part of the mailman comments: comments in the aministrative page: De: fcouc...@april.org Objet: [Lettre April] Lettre d'information interne des adhérents de l'April du 1er avril 2013 Motif: Message avec destination implicite Reçus: Tue Apr 2 09:27:01 2013 reject message proposed: Blind carbon copies or other implicit destinations are not allowed. Try reposting your message by explicitly including the list address in the To: or Cc: fields. part of the headers: Return-Path: all-april-owner@ X-Original-To: presidence@ Delivered-To: presidence@ Received: from pavot.april.org (pavot.april.org [86.65.39.24]) From: Frederic Couchet fcouchet@ To: all-april@ Organization: Organization: April - http://www.april.org/ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:22:15 +0200 Message-ID: 87hajp8kig.fsf@ User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Validation-by: fcouchet@ Subject: [Lettre April] =?UTF-8?Q?Lettre_d=27information_interne_des_adh?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A9rents_de_l=27April_du_1er_avril_2013?= Reply-To: cont...@april.org X-Loop: all-ap...@april.org X-Sequence: 3894 Errors-to: all-april-owner@ Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: all-april-request@ X-no-archive: yes -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] accept not accepeted
Le 03/04/2013 14:11, Richard Damon a écrit : De: fcouchet@apri This indicates that your list is setup to not allow bcc, and that the destination address I added the from adress (fcouchet@apri) in the said field, is this you call destination adress? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] accept not accepeted
Le 03/04/2013 21:46, Mark Sapiro a écrit : From: Frederic Couchet fcouchet@ To: all-april@ This is problematic. To pass this email you'd need to do one of two things. You can go to Privacy options - Recipient filters and put all-april in acceptable_aliases, but that probably won't work because next month's will be all-may. These are regexps so you could try oh, no... april is not the month :-) http://www.april.org/ it's a french free software foundation :-) - did you notice the mail was sent with emacs :-) your solution is certainly the best, thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] accept not accepeted
Le 04/04/2013 03:58, Richard Damon a écrit : It looks like this message was sent to the list via the email address all-april@ (which looks like a local address, since it doesn't have a domain), as I said, I removed the domain part (on my report) to prevent spam this is generally not a good idea for a message that is going to be distributed in the wild, as it will not be a valid email address for people to reply to. If you want to all that anyway, you need to add this address as a list alias. list alias? aceptable aliases, I guess? I will do this according to what marc said. I don't knox how to test :-(, I have to wait to next post (mponthly :-() thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] accept not accepeted
Hello, I have a list of mail adresses in accept_these_nonmembers filter but mail coming from these people do not reach the list, but are sent to moderation what do I have to do? thanks jdd NB: version 2.1.14 -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] accept not accepeted
Le 20/03/2013 17:00, Mark Sapiro a écrit : If that's not the explanation, what exactly do you have in accept_these_nonmembers? only a list of mail adresses. But I don't know what happen. I just tried (with my wife's email) and the mechanism worked perfectly: the first mail got moderated (I'm the moderator) and the second reach the list without moderation as expected. so the problem may be only with this particular user. I have to wait for the next failure. But then what will I have exactly to look at, and first where is the source mail stored? oir is the headers in the moderation message enough? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp solution
Le 06/03/2013 00:04, C. Thomas Stover a écrit : 1) Any recommendations for linux based nntp server software specifically for use with mailmain on a private (ie not usenet) configuration? INN 2) Anyone know of a hosting provider of such a service? (yes there are many usenet providers out there, that is not what I'm talking about) I manage it myself on my server. INN is pretty hard to manage thougth, but interface very nicely with mailman jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp solution
Le 06/03/2013 22:01, Barry Warsaw a écrit : I love Gmane too, and would love for NNTP access to be pretty much an out-of-the-box available feature for Mailman 3. We've talked about it over in mailman-developers, and if you're interested in working on this, please join us over there. sorry, I'm not a developper :-( - anyway I have no time free On Mar 06, 2013, at 09:15 AM, jdd wrote: I manage it myself on my server. INN is pretty hard to manage thougth, but interface very nicely with mailman Are there any documents available on the web for the best way to do this? there is very little to do. I somewhat documented it bit for my own purpose and in french :-( http://dodin.org/wordpress/category/mini-serveur-web/ anyway you just have to install INN and configure the relevent mailman infos in the admin pannel jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mass edit on a mailing list
Le 14/11/2012 17:56, Mark Sapiro a écrit : People who have only web access to the list and know the administrator password can visit the admin pages and make changes, but even they cannot directly change a members address without confirmation from the member, and there is no function for mass change of domain. can't you: * extract the list * edit it in any editor * mass subscribe with the edited list * eventually remove the old list (or wait to bounce mechanism to do ità ? just an idea :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated Subscription Bots Inundating List Owners With Subscription Requests
Le 23/10/2012 17:17, Carl Zwanzig a écrit : I've used a similar method for help email to places like yahoo. At the bottom of the text I ask Please tell me your favorite color so I know I'm working with a real person. Seems to work. yes I also have public passwd on a wiki. By the way the pas is not on the wiki page but on the mail I send to user. that said there are some real human paid to catch web site, and against that no luck :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] include eml files in archive
Le 05/10/2012 17:30, Mark Sapiro a écrit : jdanield wrote: Is there a way to add this to the mailman archives? (at least as html pages, I could insert manually)? Did you also lose the archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox file, or did you perhaps lose archives by having turned off archiving? yes in fact I lost the server and had to reinstall from old backup :-( Otherwise, you could concatenate the .eml files, adding From separators to make an mbox format file and process that with bin/arch LISTNAME /path/to/mbox/file to add the messages to the archive. I will try this, thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] remainder post bounce
Le 03/07/2012 05:22, Mark Sapiro a écrit : I'm a bit confused as to what you mean by return path. If you actually mean the Return-Path: header, yes it should belist-name-bounces@... in the case of list posts and mailman-bounces@... in the case of password reminders. yes it's linux-31-boun...@culte.org for usual messages and mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org for the reminder message In any case, look at the host_name attribute of the 'mailman' site list on the list's General Options page and if it is savage-reborn.culte.org, change it to culte.org. it is culte.org If this is not the issue, I think I'd need to see the full headers from a password reminder to understand the problem. below one of the return message (less the user adress). I guess I misconfigured some of the internal mailman (or postfix) config file :-(. thanks jdd Return-Path: mailman-l...@culte.org X-Original-To: j...@dodin.org Delivered-To: j...@dodin.org Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (ram31-1-82-234-76-241.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.76.241]) by dodin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA65252A for j...@dodin.org; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DFE402A3 for j...@dodin.org; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:01:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org Delivered-To: mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org Received: by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) id 4812B402FA; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:50 +0200 (CEST) From: mailer-dae...@culte.org (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary=8CFA740307.134650/savage-reborn.culte.org Message-Id: 20120701030050.4812b40...@savage-reborn.culte.org Errors-To: mailman-l...@culte.org Sender: mailman-l...@culte.org This is a MIME-encapsulated message. --8CFA740307.134650/savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is the mail system at host savage-reborn.culte.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system emm...@enseeiht.fr: host n7smtp2.enseeiht.fr[147.127.176.23] said: 553 5.1.8 emm...@enseeiht.fr... Domain of sender address mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org does not exist (in reply to RCPT TO command) --8CFA740307.134650/savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Description: Delivery report Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; savage-reborn.culte.org X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8CFA740307 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org Arrival-Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:39 +0200 (CEST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; emxx...@enseeiht.fr Original-Recipient: rfc822;emmxxx...@enseeiht.fr Action: failed Status: 5.1.8 Remote-MTA: dns; n7smtp2.enseeiht.fr Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 5.1.8 emmaxxx...@enseeiht.fr... Domain of sender address mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org does not exist --8CFA740307.134650/savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFA740307 for emxxx...@enseeiht.fr; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:39 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rappel_pour_les_abonnements_aux_listes_sur_culte?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=2Eorg?= From: mailman-ow...@culte.org To: emxxx...@enseeiht.fr X-No-Archive: yes Message-ID: mailman.109.134612.16543.mail...@savage-reborn.culte.org Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 05:00:12 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: mail...@savage-reborn.culte.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: mailman.savage-reborn.culte.org X-List-Administrivia: yes Errors-To: mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org Sender: mailman-boun...@savage-reborn.culte.org Ceci est un rappel, envoy=E9 une fois par mois, concernant vos abonnements aux listes de culte.org. Il contient vos param=E8tres d'abonnement et la marche =E0 suivre pour les changer ou r=E9silier votre abonnement =E0 une liste. Vous pouvez utiliser l'interface web pour changer votre statut ou vos param=E8tres d'abonnement, vous pouvez aussi y r=E9silier votre abonnement, choisir de recevoir les messages en mode group=E9 ou encore d=E9sactiver toute r=E9ception de messages (par exemple si vous partez en
Re: [Mailman-Users] remainder post bounce
Le 03/07/2012 09:08, Mark Sapiro a écrit : Please note I am talking about the host_name of the list named 'mailman', not the list named 'linux-31' got it!!! this list is not listed in the web sreeen, so I even forgot it existed! of course there where the error (probably because it was the first configured one, when my knowledge was even lower than now :-() thanks a lot. Your work for mailman is an example of what can be done for the best. Impressive. Thanks again jdd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] remainder post bounce
I have a curious situation. I could fix it, so there is no hurry to find a better solution, but I wonder where I failed :-). I have a domain name (culte.org) that hold a mailman mailing lists server. Under this domain, there is a (virtual) network. The real server is savage-reborn.culte.org When mailman send the messages to the lists, no problem at all, the return path is list-name@culte.org but when mailman send the monthly reminder, the return path is listname@savage-reborn.culte.org. some recipients do not like to have the extra savage-reborn part and refuse the mail. I don't know where I could change this without disturbing the server's working. The MTA is postfix. I could solve the problem adding savage-reborn in culte.org zone definitions. any idea? thanks jd -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] inn gateway
Le 01/04/2012 00:59, Mark Sapiro a écrit : T'bird's behavior doesn't seem unreasonable, but if you don't like it, that's not really a Mailman issue. If you wish to remove the Newsgroups: header from messages passing through Mailman, I've told you how to do it in my prior reply. yes, thanks for your complete answer :-) jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] inn gateway
Hello :-) I'm a happy mailman user :-). I have only a small problem I don't know how to fix. I use a mailman-inn gateway. The two software are on the same server. when somebody write on the newsgroup, the post is sent to the list as well. If somebody try to answer _from the list_, the to field of the answer have _two_ values, one for the mailing list, the other for the newsgroup. This second one is unusefull and thunderbird do not like it and one have to remoive it by hand to send the answer. below the headers of a mail read on the mailing list and send from the newsgroup. is there something I can do to remove the Newsgroups: linux-31 in excess? thanks jdd original post (answer headers below): Return-Path: linux-31-boun...@culte.org Received: from zimbra65-e11.priv.proxad.net (LHLO zimbra65-e11.priv.proxad.net) (172.20.243.215) by zimbra65-e11.priv.proxad.net with LMTP; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:55:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (mx21-g26.priv.proxad.net [172.20.243.91]) by zimbra65-e11.priv.proxad.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CE460D473 for jdani...@free.fr; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:55:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org ([82.234.76.241]) by mx1-g20.free.fr (MXproxy) for jdani...@free.fr; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:55:09 +0200 (CEST) X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM score=15 Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F3140029; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:55:04 +0200 (CEST) Path: savage-reborn.culte.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Pascal Hambourg pascal.n...@plouf.fr.eu.org Newsgroups: linux-31 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:53:35 +0200 Organization: Plouf ! Lines: 16 Message-ID: jl6nng$je3$1...@savage-reborn.culte.org References: jl55f8$3e8$1...@savage-reborn.culte.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plouf.fr.eu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: savage-reborn.culte.org 1333191216 19907 213.41.173.35 (31 Mar 2012 10:53:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: n...@culte.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:53:36 + (UTC) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: jl55f8$3e8$1...@savage-reborn.culte.org Xref: savage-reborn.culte.org linux-31:53 To: linux...@culte.org Subject: Re: [Linux-31] champs from??? X-BeenThere: linux...@culte.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: La liste de discussion du CULTe linux-31.culte.org List-Unsubscribe: http://culte.org/mailman/options/linux-31, mailto:linux-31-requ...@culte.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://culte.org/pipermail/linux-31 List-Post: mailto:linux...@culte.org List-Help: mailto:linux-31-requ...@culte.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://culte.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-31, mailto:linux-31-requ...@culte.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: linux-31-boun...@culte.org Sender: linux-31-boun...@culte.org answer headers: FCC: imap://jdani...@imap.free.fr/Sent X-Identity-Key: id17 Message-ID: 4f76ff1f.9020...@free.fr Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:57:03 +0200 From: jdd jdani...@free.fr X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; DSN=0; uuencode=0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: linux-31 X-Mozilla-News-Host: To: linux...@culte.org Subject: Re: [Linux-31] champs from??? References: jl55f8$3e8$1...@savage-reborn.culte.org jl6nng$je3$1...@savage-reborn.culte.org In-Reply-To: jl6nng$je3$1...@savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Jean-Daniel Dodin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] inn gateway
Le 31/03/2012 21:15, Mark Sapiro a écrit : You can do this a couple of ways in Mailman. The recommended way is a I see, thanks. But in fact I didn't expect to have something this raw to change. I guessed I missed some setup. is it normal to have this behavior (double to in the answer)? Previously the system was managed by ezmlm and we didn't have this problem (but I didn't manage it, so may be the other admin fixed something) could this also be a thunderbird bug? thanks jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members
thanks to your answers, but none give result. I was even obliged to revert to a previous (virtualbox) snapshot because after reboot I couldn't configure the network :-) that said, trying as many things, I finally got a cleaner mailman folder. Clean logs, shunts, helds... Now, sending a couple of mails to a list (archives here http://culte.org/pipermail/linux-31/2012-February/thread.html), still not sent to the list members, I only find in ~mailman/qfiles files in retry, *including the test files* (with lot of spam) these files are binary, but with many human readable parts. The one corresponding to the problematic mail keep changing name (looks like mailman try to send it and fails each time) I can understand the content but it's only 2.8k, so I join it to this post, may be it will give clues thanks jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members
Le 21/02/2012 11:19, jdd a écrit : I can understand the content but it's only 2.8k, so I join it to this post, may be it will give clues do not pass the list. It's here: http://dodin.org/temp/mailproblem.pck thanks jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members
got it... for some obscure reason, the openSUSE config utility did *not* update the mm_cfg.py config file (and copied the good one next with an extension) using this config file solved the problem. the local config (good) is: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'savage-reborn' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'culte.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'culte.org' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap' DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' SMTPPORT = '25' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/' thanks jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members
Le 21/02/2012 18:35, Mark Sapiro a écrit : jdd wrote: got it... for some obscure reason, the openSUSE config utility did *not* update the mm_cfg.py config file (and copied the good one next with an extension) A Mailman install/upgrade should never replace an existing mm_cfg.py as that is where you put your site customization of Mailman's defaults and you wouldn't want an upgrade to overwrite your site settings. it was a first time install. I beg I got a look to the file before beginning config. learning is sometime hard :-) thanks for help jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members
Hello, This is my first mail to this list, fogive me if i miss some netiquette :-( I have the problem in subject (No mail going out to lists members) on a new mailman install, using openSUSE 12.1 server mailman receives mails and archive them: http://culte.org/pipermail/linux-31/2012-February/thread.html I scanned all the instructions in the page http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.78+Troubleshooting-+No+mail+going+out+to+lists+members without finding any problem, but I may have misunderstood some part of it as this did not fix my problems. I documented my work here (sorry, in french) http://dodin.org/wordpress/?p=13 last thing I did is scan the mailman log messages. In openSUSE, mailman is spread between ~mailman in the usual /var/lib/mailman place and /usrLib/mailman. MTA postfix (perfectly running, I can send a mail from the mailman account) I blanked out the log files (renaming the log folder, creating a new one and using check_perm to fix the permissions) I send a message to the linux-31 mailing list, I got this error message: Feb 20 10:27:58 2012 (10832) Uncaught runner exception: Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged Feb 20 10:27:58 2012 (10832) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 120, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 191, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 74, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Sendmail.py, line 71, in process assert 0, 'Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged' AssertionError: Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged Feb 20 10:27:58 2012 (10832) SHUNTING: 1329730077.990159+731f2f19a770d9f674f4bc34e0d3328b894fc605 grunner logs say: Feb 20 10:26:13 2012 (10832) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. NOTICE: I tried to paste the mailman aliases in /etc/alias, because this looked like an alias problem. doing so I got an answer from mailman saying linux...@culte.org: Command died with status 2: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post linux-31. Command output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 67, GOT gid 65533. so I reverted to the dual alias system where I have already mailman:root mailman-owner: mailman any idea? thanks jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members
Le 20/02/2012 16:55, Mark Sapiro a écrit : Remove the line DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail' from mm_cfg.py. done (commented out) even after rstarting mailman, this do not change the result (no delivery) but I still have Feb 20 19:38:44 2012 (10832) Uncaught runner exception: Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged Then if you want the shunted messages to be delivered, run /usr/lib/mailman/bin/unshunt don't work (messages still in the shunt folder) Otherwise rm /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/shunt/* this works, for sure. done. I had also messages in /var/lib/mailman/data like heldmsg-linux-31-11.pck. I also removed them I posted a couple of messages on the list, no return I have Feb 20 19:42:00 2012 (28177) post to linux-31 from jdani...@free.fr, size=1607, message-id=4f4293f1.4090...@free.fr, 2 failures in post log file Feb 20 19:42:00 2012 (28177) delivery to j...@dodin.org failed with code -1: [Errno -2] Name or service not known on smtp logs I have this in mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'culte.org' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'culte.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'culte.org' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap' #DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail' what can i do else? thanks jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org