[Mailman-Users] Footer shows as a txt attachment instead of appended in body

2018-10-07 Thread Joe Mezzanini
I have a mailman discussion group with some text
in the "Footer added to mail sent to regular list members "

However, some mail software does not show that added text.

Specifically, Outlook has it as a file attachment AT01.txt instead of
appending it to the body of the email.

Anyone know how to “fix” this?  thanks
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[Mailman-Users] munging the To: line?

2016-12-01 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
I've searched the archives and the FAQs; if I've missed something
please point me to it.

I've got From: munging turned on, so posts to a list I administer come
"from" addresses like
John Smith via mylist <myl...@example.com>

Frequently, list users will post to the list by replying to a previous
message, and I'll end up getting a message with a To: header like

To: John Smith via mylist <myl...@example.com>

and it goes out to the list with that To: header.

Since this can be confusing, I'd like to munge the To: line as it
comes through so it ends up saying

To: My List <myl...@example.com>

Is there a way to do this through standard configuration options (and
how?), or do I need to write a handler?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newsreader access.

2014-04-28 Thread Joe
Hi, Mark.

I have thought about an alternative solution that might be simpler and more 
efficient (if available) than using a news server and newsgroups.

Are you aware of any Wordpress plug-in that would integrate with Mailman ? In 
other words, Mailman messages would be exchanged between Mailman and the 
Wordpress website with the aid of this plug-in so that members would have the 
option to read and post messages to one or more of their groups using this 
website instead of e-mail ?

Thank you for your help.

Joe.



On April 27, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 On 04/27/2014 03:15 PM, Joe wrote:
 Mark, 
 
 Since you said that newsgroups would allow non-members to post to the lists 
 I have to assume that these newsgroups are open to the general public. Is 
 this the case ?
 
 
 Some are, some aren't.
 
 
 Some of my lists need to be kept private and can't be opened to the public 
 (due to privacy and confidentiality laws). Is there a way to run newsgroups 
 while maintaining them private and not visible to the general public ?
 
 
 See, e.g., RFC 4643 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4643.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newsreader access.

2014-04-28 Thread Joe
Edgar,

I am looking for a webforum as a second alternative to access. I have found 
(much to my surprise) that a large majority of users have trouble with even the 
simplest aspects of e-mail use despite the fact that e-mail is easy to use and 
technology that has been around now for several decades. I have instructed 
users to create subfolders in the mail clients and use filters to redirect mail 
from our mailing lists to these folders. They can't seem to do it and many 
complaint that e-mail from the mailing lists clutter their inboxes. I have also 
suggested that they create a second e-mail account to be used with our mailing 
lists but many find it either difficult or don't have the time to do it.

With this in mind I would like to create another method of access in addition 
to e-mail so that users have an option. I personally find e-mail one of the 
easiest and simplest technologies to use but I would like to accommodate those 
that feel differently. 

I have found a few Wordpress plug-ins for Mailman but the ones I have found are 
just for subscription. I would like to find a plug-in that would duplicate the 
content of the mailing lists to a web forum on the Wordpress sites so users 
would have the option to use it in place of e-mail.

Thank you,

Joe.


On April 28, 2014, at 4:34 AM, E Kogler igoetr...@yahoo.de wrote:

 What you are looking for sounds like a Web forum.
 
 Edgar
 
 
 
 
 Von: Joe joemailgro...@gmail.com
 An: mailman-users@python.org Users mailman-users@python.org 
 Gesendet: 9:30 Montag, 28.April 2014
 Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Newsreader access.
 
 
 Hi, Mark.
 
 I have thought about an alternative solution that might be simpler and more 
 efficient (if available) than using a news server and newsgroups.
 
 Are you aware of any Wordpress plug-in that would integrate with Mailman ? In 
 other words, Mailman messages would be exchanged between Mailman and the 
 Wordpress website with the aid of this plug-in so that members would have the 
 option to read and post messages to one or more of their groups using this 
 website instead of e-mail ?
 
 Thank you for your help.
 
 Joe.
 
 
 
 On April 27, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
 
 On 04/27/2014 03:15 PM, Joe wrote:
 Mark, 
 
 Since you said that newsgroups would allow non-members to post to the lists 
 I have to assume that these newsgroups are open to the general public. Is 
 this the case ?
 
 
 Some are, some aren't.
 
 
 Some of my lists need to be kept private and can't be opened to the public 
 (due to privacy and confidentiality laws). Is there a way to run newsgroups 
 while maintaining them private and not visible to the general public ?
 
 
 See, e.g., RFC 4643 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4643.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newsreader access.

2014-04-27 Thread Joe
Hi, Mark.

In the case you describe the server would send posts to the newsgroups and 
readers would access these newsgroups to see the posts. So posts are sent to 
the list using each list's e-mail address and then 'copied' to the newsserver. 
What happens when readers wish to reply to what they read on their newsreaders 
? Would they send their reply to the newsgroup or have to send their reply to 
the list itself using the list's e-mail address ? This part is not very clear 
to me.

Thank you in advance,

Joe.


On April 22, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 On 04/22/2014 05:03 PM, Joe wrote:
 
 How complicated is it to set-up Mailman so that users can access it this way 
 ? Will I need to configure my server for this or is the configuration 
 restricted to the Mailman administrative interface ?
 
 
 You need to create a newsgroup on an nntp server somewhere. This can be
 the Mailman server or not. Then you can use the list's web admin
 Mail-News gateways section to configure your list to send posts to
 your newsgroup, and your users can read the newsgroup.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newsreader access.

2014-04-27 Thread Joe
Mark,

This represents a serious potential risk. One of the problems I've noticed over 
the years with most Usenet groups is that they tend to attract a lot of spam 
and non-relevants posts.

In this case, assuming I open the gate and allow posts from the Newsgroups to 
be posted to the list even by non-members, is there a way to have all posts 
from the Newsgroups set to moderation so that I get the chance to review them 
first before they are posted to the lists ? Assuming there is, would moderation 
be set only for posts coming from the Newsgroups or would it be set for all 
posts independent on whether they come from the Newsgroups or from e-mail ?

Thank you for your help.

Joe.


On April 27, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 On 04/27/2014 05:46 AM, Joe wrote:
 
 In the case you describe the server would send posts to the newsgroups and 
 readers would access these newsgroups to see the posts. So posts are sent to 
 the list using each list's e-mail address and then 'copied' to the 
 newsserver. What happens when readers wish to reply to what they read on 
 their newsreaders ? Would they send their reply to the newsgroup or have to 
 send their reply to the list itself using the list's e-mail address ? This 
 part is not very clear to me.
 
 
 Either way. Look at the settings in the web admin UI Mail-News
 gateways section. You have separate controls for sending from Mailman to
 the news group and from the news group to Mailman.
 
 If you enable gateway_to_mail, posts to the newsgroup will be sent to
 the list. If you don't enable gateway_to_mail, posts to the newsgroup
 will not be sent to the list.
 
 You should be aware that if you do gate from the newsgroup to the list,
 posts to the newsgroup from nonmembers of the list will be accepted by
 the list regardless of the list's generic_nonmember_action.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newsreader access.

2014-04-27 Thread Joe
Mark, 

Since you said that newsgroups would allow non-members to post to the lists I 
have to assume that these newsgroups are open to the general public. Is this 
the case ?

Some of my lists need to be kept private and can't be opened to the public (due 
to privacy and confidentiality laws). Is there a way to run newsgroups while 
maintaining them private and not visible to the general public ?

Thank you,

Joe.




On April 27, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 On 04/27/2014 02:27 PM, Joe wrote:
 
 In this case, assuming I open the gate and allow posts from the Newsgroups 
 to be posted to the list even by non-members, is there a way to have all 
 posts from the Newsgroups set to moderation so that I get the chance to 
 review them first before they are posted to the lists ? Assuming there is, 
 would moderation be set only for posts coming from the Newsgroups or would 
 it be set for all posts independent on whether they come from the Newsgroups 
 or from e-mail ?
 
 
 Mailman's usenet gateway is from another era. Originally, all posts
 arriving via the usenet gateway were exempt from member moderation and
 *_these_nonmembers and generic_nonmember_action actions.
 
 This was changed in Mailman 2.1.17 per
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1252575 to apply
 member_moderation_action to a usenet gated post from a moderated member
 and to apply *_these_nonmember actions to usenet gated posts from
 nonmembers matching one of those filters.
 
 This was deliberately not extended to generic_nonmember_action because
 it would be too disruptive to existing lists.
 
 However, you can effectively accomplish the same thing since you can put
 regexp patterns in *_these_nonmembers, so if your list's
 generic_nonmember_action is, e.g., hold, and you also want to hold all
 nonmember posts that come via usenet, just put say
 
 ^.*$
 
 in hold_these_nonmembers and every nonmember post will be held
 regardless of source except for those from users matching
 accept_these_nonmembers.
 
 This is not completely flexible, since the *_these_nonmember tests are
 applied in order (accept, hold, reject, discard) to all posts from
 nonmembers before generic_nonmember_action, so for example, if you put
 ^.*$ in discard_these_nonmembers, all nonmember posts will be discarded
 before ever checking generic_nonmember_action.
 
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[Mailman-Users] Newsreader access.

2014-04-22 Thread Joe
Hi, everyone.

Can Mailman be set-up for newsreader access ? I would like to allow users to 
access the mailing lists I host using a newsreader instead of the conventional 
e-mail method. 

How complicated is it to set-up Mailman so that users can access it this way ? 
Will I need to configure my server for this or is the configuration restricted 
to the Mailman administrative interface ?

Thank you in advance of your help and replies.

Joe.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-14 Thread Joe Sniderman
On 04/13/2014 06:03 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Joseph Brennan
 bren...@columbia.edu wrote:
 
 Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 DMARC works off of SPF as well.
 
 
 Not really.
 
 DMARC checks alignment of *both* DKIM and SPF, if either is broken
 DMARC fails.

Nooo...If either one passes, DMARC passes.

 SPF does not check the From: header line, and that's where the 
 troubles begin with DMARC.
 
 SPF checks sending IPs (of which your IPs won't match Yahoo's, thus 
 breaking DMARC)
 
 Either an SPF failure or a DKIM failure will cause a DMARC rejection 
 if p=reject.

Even if that were the case, which it is not, SPF should pass - since
typically the list is the envelope sender.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can discarded message be restored and reposted to mailing list ?

2014-03-05 Thread Joe
Thank you Mark and Peter.

I asked the subscriber to repost his message and will be twice as careful from 
now on to avoid deleting messages I mean to accept.

Thank you for your help,

Joe.


On March 03, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote:

 When this happens to us, we normally either ask the sender to send it again, 
 or we forward the copy in the moderator alert email ourselves.
 
 Peter Shute 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mailman-Users 
 [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pshute=nuw.org...@python.org] 
 On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
 Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 11:28 AM
 To: mailman-users@python.org
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Can discarded message be 
 restored and reposted to mailing list ?
 
 On 03/03/2014 01:32 PM, Joe wrote:
 
 I accidentally discarded a message that was held for 
 moderation and I meant to accept it.
 
 Is there a way to restore this message (perhaps from archives) ?
 
 
 Sorry, no, unless you happened to do a backup that included 
 Mailman's data/ directory during the period that the message was held.
 
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[Mailman-Users] Can discarded message be restored and reposted to mailing list ?

2014-03-03 Thread Joe
Hi, everyone.

I accidentally discarded a message that was held for moderation and I meant to 
accept it.

Is there a way to restore this message (perhaps from archives) ?

Thank you in advance,

Joe.
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[Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman hosting service.

2014-02-18 Thread Joe
Hello, everyone.

In my attempt to find a Mailman hosting service I have received a message from 
one IT specialist advising me to avoid hosting services that utilize a cPanel. 
According to this specialist this is a bad arrangement and one that doesn't 
provide me full control of my lists. Since I am not an IT specialist I don't 
know what a cPanel is or how this can be a problem. Can any of you enlighten me 
? What is a cPanel, why can this be a problem and how would it not allow me 
full control of my lists ?

In addition, what problems should I expect to encounter in hosting my lists 
with an outside Mailman hosting service ?

Thank you in advance,

Joe.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman hosting service.

2014-02-18 Thread Joe
Hi, Brian.

Thanks for your reply. I will be calling you soon.

I will not disclose the name or e-mail of the IT specialist but his private 
message to me expressed his concern over the use of cPanel as a tool for the 
management of Mailman.

Here is an excerpt from the e-mail I received:


Joe, unless you have COMPLETE List Control, DON'T do it ! ! !

If you think you HATE the baby sitting of current set-up, you don't 
know/fully understand 
the full meaning of HATE ! ! ! 

For over a decade I have prayed to Hit the Lottery as very FIRST thing I 
would do is pay
for Dedicated Server so I could have FULL control without the Baby Sitting of 
cPanel ! ! !


Since I am not an IT specialist I have to ask myself, why would he feel so 
strongly about this ? What problems should I expect to encounter ?

Thank you,

Joseph.



On February 18, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Brian Carpenter br...@emwd.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
 bounces+brian=emwd@python.org] On Behalf Of Joe
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:29 PM
 To: mailman-users@python.org Users
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman hosting service.
 
 Hello, everyone.
 
 In my attempt to find a Mailman hosting service I have received a message
 from one IT specialist advising me to avoid hosting services that utilize
 a
 cPanel. According to this specialist this is a bad arrangement and one
 that
 doesn't provide me full control of my lists. Since I am not an IT
 specialist I
 don't know what a cPanel is or how this can be a problem. Can any of you
 enlighten me ? What is a cPanel, why can this be a problem and how would
 it
 not allow me full control of my lists ?
 
 In addition, what problems should I expect to encounter in hosting my
 lists
 with an outside Mailman hosting service ?
 
 Thank you in advance,
 
 Joe.
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 Hi Joe:
 
 I think we discussed your mailman needs a couple of times over the phone.
 
 cPanel is a webhosting control panel that is very popular (for good reason)
 among web hosting companies and it includes the use of mailman.
 
 cPanel is typically used within a shared hosting environment and I believe
 it has done a lot in getting mailman into the hands of many list users.
 Because of the nature of a shared hosting environment, typical mailman users
 would not have access to the mailman server itself in order to make any
 customizations such as searchable archives, etc. However my company hosts
 over a 1000 mailman lists on our cPanel servers and our list clients are
 very happy with the arrangement. But YMMV.
 
 If you have not required backend access before to your mailman server then I
 would think you will not have any problems utilizing a cPanel enabled
 mailman service. I would be interested in hearing some details of your IT
 specialist's reservations of cPanel and mailman.
 
 Brian Carpenter
 EMWD.com
 
 Providing Cloud Services and more for over 15 years.
 
 T: 336.755.0685
 E: br...@emwd.com
 www.emwd.com
 

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[Mailman-Users] Consultant for hire with Mailman and OS X Server experience.

2014-02-09 Thread Joe
Hello, everyone.

I am in need of a consultant to help me with my server. I need someone with 
knowledge of both Mailman and OS X Server to connect remotely in order to 
install and configure Mailman on my system.

Anyone interested please contact me off list.

Thank you in advance.

Joe.
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[Mailman-Users] Question about web and mail hosting in Mailman.

2014-02-08 Thread Joe
Hello, everyone.

I am transferred the website of my Mailman related domain to a third party 
hosting service but plant to host the Mailman list itself with a different 
service. I have been told that Mailman can not reside in one server while the 
website associated with the domain it uses resides in another. In my case the 
domain.com website is hosted by one service while the Mailman list and a few 
e-mail associated with the domain (i...@domain.com and ad...@domain.com) are 
hosted by another service (by service I mean different servers in different 
geographical locations).

I have been told that this solution is not possible as I will not be able to 
access Mailman administrative interface through my browser (as in 
www.domain.com/mailman/admin) since the website will be in a different server 
and not the one where Mailman is located.

Is this true or is possible to have this type of configuration with mailman 
lists and website hosted by different servers ?

Thank you in advance,

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[Mailman-Users] Question about administrative panel.

2014-02-08 Thread Joe
Hello, everyone.

I am having problems accessing the the Mass Subscription panel in Mailman's 
administrative interface.

I currently host 8 lists but this is only happening to one of them. As I try to 
access the Mass Subscription window or panel at 
www.domain.com/mailman/admin/list1/members/add my browser states it can't find 
the server. It does work for all other 7 lists I host.

Any idea why this is happening and how I can fix it ?

Thank you in advance.

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[Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman hosting.

2014-02-07 Thread Joe
Hello, everyone.

A while ago I posted a question to this group about some problems I had been 
experiencing with my server and was recommended several Mailman hosting 
services by some of the members who replied to my original post either here or 
privately.

I have decided to follow this advice in order to save the time and effort it 
has become for me to maintain my server and the Mailman software up-to-date.

What has been your experience with hosting services ? Have you had any problems 
and what should I watch out for ? Are there any hosting services you would 
recommend ?

Thank you in advance for your responses.

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[Mailman-Users] Subscription notifications - how to turn it off.

2014-02-06 Thread Joe
Hello, everyone.

I have decided to transfer my mailman lists to a third party Mailman host. 

What options do I have to transfer all subscriptions to the new server ? Is 
there a way to export the files and then transfer to the host's server ?

Assuming I am not able to do this (I am currently experiencing problems with 
the hard drive where the files are located) and have to manually enter all 
subscriptions (there are nearly 500 members total) is there a way to prevent 
subscription notices from being sent out again ? Each subscriber has already 
been sent a notification when they were subscribed and I want to make this 
transition smooth be avoiding subscription notices from being sent again.

Thank you in advance.

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[Mailman-Users] Rejected or bounced messages.

2014-01-01 Thread Joe
Hi, everyone.

I have received several messages returned as rejected that were sent by my 
Mailman server as the 1st of the month subscription reminder.

These messages contain a technical explanation about the reason for their 
rejection I don't understand but it seems to me it has something to do with the 
way the messages are formatted. I received several of these messages from a 
total of nearly 350 members we host at this moment.

I won't post the messages and their entire content but just some of the reasons 
for their rejection. Here they are:


MESSAGE 1:


I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

  The mail system

m...@epdot.com: host mx1.megamailservers.com[216.251.32.71] said: 550
   5.7.1 s01D0qcI004613 This message does not comply with required standards.
   (in reply to end of DATA command)


MESSAGE 2:


I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

  The mail system

m...@me.com: host mx6.me.com.akadns.net[17.158.8.114] said: 550
   5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: usern...@me.com (in reply to RCPT
   TO command)


MESSAGE 3:


I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

  The mail system

m...@cgocable.ca: host mx2.cgocable.ca[216.221.81.40] said: 550 #5.1.0
   Address rejected. (in reply to RCPT TO command)


MESSAGE 4:


I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

  The mail system

m...@msn.com: host mx2.hotmail.com[65.55.92.168] said: 550 Requested
   action not taken: mailbox unavailable (in reply to RCPT TO command)


Do you have any idea as to why these messages have been returned and what I 
need to do to resolve this issue ?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Joe.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions on Mailman list administration.

2013-12-19 Thread Joe
Hi, Mark and other members.


On December 14, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 On 12/14/2013 01:13 AM, Joe wrote:
 Hi, everyone.
 
 I am the admin for 5 Mailman lists residing on the same server and part of 
 the same domain. There are tasks I have been performing with great frequency 
 lately and have started to question if there is a simpler way to perform 
 them.
 
 and later added:
 Any admin I do must be done using the browser interface available in Mailman.
 
 
 These are the questions:
 
 1. I often subscribe members to the 5 lists myself. As it is now I have to 
 subscribe the same member to each one of the 5 lists individually. In case I 
 wish to subscribe members to all 5 lists hosted is there a way to do it all 
 at the same time ?
 
 
 You could create a script on your work station to issue 'wget' commands
 to do the subscribes. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/uIA9 and
 the post at
 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-December/041214.html.
 
 The script could be something like
 
 #!/bin/sh
 for list in listname1 listname2 listname3 listname4 listname5; do
 wget -O - http://[domain.name]/mailman/admin/$list/members/add\
 ?subscribees=$1\
 adminpw=[admin_password]\
 send_welcome_msg_to_this_batch=0\
 send_notifications_to_list_owner=0
 done
 
 If this were saved in a file named say sub5 and given execute
 permission, you could then in a terminal window do
 
 /path/to/sub5 John Doe j...@example.com
 
 to subscribe that user to the 5 lists. See the above linked post for
 more info on the wget command parameters.

Thank you Mark but this seems more complicated than subscribing them one list 
at a time.

 2. Is there a way to look at the lists hosted collectively ? For instance, 
 in case I wish to read (on screen) or print a list with all subscribers in 
 one or all lists is there a way to do it with all lists being displayed 
 together on the same page or document ?
 
 
 You could script the answer to 3. below.
 
 
 3. Is there a way to print a list of subscribers along with their e-mail 
 addresses ?
 
 
 Visit the roster at http://host.name/mailman/roster/list_name directly
 or via the Visit Subscriber List button on the list's listinfo page.

The link above is broken. My browser shows a blank page with a message stating 
the address can't be found or does not exist.

In regards to printing the list of subscribers, can they be listed in 
chronological order with date (and perhaps time also) when they were subscribed 
?

 4. In the Mass Subscriptions page I enter the subscriber's e-mail address to 
 add him or her to one list. However, I am then forced to go to the 
 Membership List page and enter the subscribers name. Is there a way to do 
 both at the same time ? Can the e-mail address and name be entered on the 
 same page to simplify this process ?
 
 
 See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/YoA9.
 
 
 5. Is there a way to print user statistics ? For instance, can I print a 
 list with information on users such as the number of messages they have 
 posted in a given time period, their country of origin, date when they were 
 subscribed to the lists, e-mail address, and others ?
 
 
 No.
 
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[Mailman-Users] Questions on Mailman list administration.

2013-12-14 Thread Joe
Hi, everyone.

I am the admin for 5 Mailman lists residing on the same server and part of the 
same domain. There are tasks I have been performing with great frequency lately 
and have started to question if there is a simpler way to perform them.

These are the questions:

1. I often subscribe members to the 5 lists myself. As it is now I have to 
subscribe the same member to each one of the 5 lists individually. In case I 
wish to subscribe members to all 5 lists hosted is there a way to do it all at 
the same time ?

2. Is there a way to look at the lists hosted collectively ? For instance, in 
case I wish to read (on screen) or print a list with all subscribers in one or 
all lists is there a way to do it with all lists being displayed together on 
the same page or document ?

3. Is there a way to print a list of subscribers along with their e-mail 
addresses ?

4. In the Mass Subscriptions page I enter the subscriber's e-mail address to 
add him or her to one list. However, I am then forced to go to the Membership 
List page and enter the subscribers name. Is there a way to do both at the same 
time ? Can the e-mail address and name be entered on the same page to simplify 
this process ?

5. Is there a way to print user statistics ? For instance, can I print a list 
with information on users such as the number of messages they have posted in a 
given time period, their country of origin, date when they were subscribed to 
the lists, e-mail address, and others ?

Thank you in advance.

Joe.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions on Mailman list administration.

2013-12-14 Thread Joe
Hi, Martin.

Thank you for your help and reply.

Unfortunately I am not well trained and skilled on the use of Unix (or in my 
case Apple's version of it). Any admin I do must be done using the browser 
interface available in Mailman.

Will all the answers to my questions be dependent on command line use ?

One more question I forgot to ask on my original post:

Is there a way to configure Mailman so that when users select 'reply' the 
message goes to the list and when they select 'reply all' the message goes to 
both the list and the poster wrote the message they are replying to ?

Thank you.

Joe.


On December 14, 2013, at 1:48 AM, Martin Schulte mmli...@ds-gmbh.de wrote:

 Hi Joe!
 
 I am the admin for 5 Mailman lists residing on the same server and part
 of the same domain. There are tasks I have been performing with great
 frequency lately and have started to question if there is a simpler way
 to perform them.
 
 These are the questions:
 
 1. I often subscribe members to the 5 lists myself. As it is now I have
 to subscribe the same member to each one of the 5 lists individually. In
 case I wish to subscribe members to all 5 lists hosted is there a way to
 do it all at the same time ?
 
 2. Is there a way to look at the lists hosted collectively ? For
 instance, in case I wish to read (on screen) or print a list with all
 subscribers in one or all lists is there a way to do it with all lists
 being displayed together on the same page or document ?
 
 3. Is there a way to print a list of subscribers along with their e-mail
 addresses ?
 
 All these questions can be answered with Yes! if you have commandline 
 access to the server and the lists thereon, then (propably) a ssh server 
 and list_members my_list and friends will be your friends ;)
 
 4. In the Mass Subscriptions page I enter the subscriber's e-mail address
 to add him or her to one list. However, I am then forced to go to the
 Membership List page and enter the subscribers name. Is there a way to do
 both at the same time ? Can the e-mail address and name be entered on the
 same page to simplify this process ?
 
 I think it works to enter lines like
 Joe joemailgro...@gmail.com
 on the mass subscription page.
 
 5. Is there a way to print user statistics ? For instance, can I print a
 list with information on users such as the number of messages they have
 posted in a given time period, their country of origin, date when they
 were subscribed to the lists, e-mail address, and others ?
 
 Will probably not be that easy but with shell access it might be worth 
 thinking more about it.
 
 Greetings,
 
 Martin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply e-mail options.

2013-06-26 Thread Joe
Thank you Mark and Stephen for your help and replies. I made the appropriate 
changes and informed all subscribers how the 'Reply' and 'Reply All' options 
work.

Joe.


On June 24, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:

 Joe writes:
 
 I would like to have mail addressed to the list with a simple
 'Reply' and addressed to both the list and the sender with a 'Reply
 All'.
 
 Can Mailman be configured to behave this way ?
 
 No.  Replies are generated by subscriber-side mail clients, not by
 Mailman.  Mailman *already* *by default* provides enough information
 for them to do what you suggest on simple replies[1] (and IMHO that
 should be default behavior!), and then Reply All would Just Work
 Right.  But mostly they don't (in any configuration, let alone by
 default).  As Mark explains, the Reply-To header can't be used because
 it breaks Reply All.[2]
 
 IIRC Mozilla Thunderbird and Sylpheed (and maybe Evolution) do this
 right.  But trying to convince subscribers to change their MUAs is
 like trying to get addicts to give up their drugs. :-(
 
 A few other clients (Mutt, Emacs/Gnus) have a reply-to-list function,
 which often does the right thing (ie, fall back to reply-to-author if
 it can't figure out what list is meant).  It is easier to get them to
 use the function if already present in their client, but that's quite
 a bit of work for somebody to find out what clients people are using
 and if they have the function.
 
 Footnotes: 
 [1]  The RFC 2369 List-Post header.
 
 [2]  This is because the definition of Reply-To in the email
 standard is The *author* says he doesn't want replies to go to
 'From', he wants you to use this address.  Thank you!
 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply e-mail options.

2013-06-24 Thread Joe
Hi, Mark.

 In the web admin interface on the General Options page under Reply-To:
 header munging set first_strip_reply_to to No and reply_goes_to_list to
 Poster.
 
 With these settings, a simple 'reply' will go to the sender or the
 sender's Reply-To; 'reply-all' will go to the sender, the list and any
 other explicit recipients of the post, and 'reply-list' if your MUA
 supports it will go to just the list.

Is it possible to do the opposite ?

I would like to have mail addressed to the list with a simple 'Reply' and 
addressed to both the list and the sender with a 'Reply All'.

Can Mailman be configured to behave this way ?

Thank you,

Joe.


On June 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 On 06/23/2013 08:28 PM, Joe wrote:
 
 What setting do I need to change in order to have mail sent to Mailman lists 
 show two e-mail addresses for reply ? I have been a member of other lists in 
 the past and remember mail having the address of the list plus the address 
 of the sender displayed. My own lists are only showing the address of the 
 list for reply and the address of the sender does not appear. How can I 
 change this behavior ?
 
 
 In the web admin interface on the General Options page under Reply-To:
 header munging set first_strip_reply_to to No and reply_goes_to_list to
 Poster.
 
 With these settings, a simple 'reply' will go to the sender or the
 sender's Reply-To; 'reply-all' will go to the sender, the list and any
 other explicit recipients of the post, and 'reply-list' if your MUA
 supports it will go to just the list.
 
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[Mailman-Users] Reply e-mail options.

2013-06-23 Thread Joe
Hello, everyone.

What setting do I need to change in order to have mail sent to Mailman lists 
show two e-mail addresses for reply ? I have been a member of other lists in 
the past and remember mail having the address of the list plus the address of 
the sender displayed. My own lists are only showing the address of the list for 
reply and the address of the sender does not appear. How can I change this 
behavior ?

Thanks,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription page alteration.

2013-01-20 Thread Joe
Hi, Mark.

I followed your instructions and was able to make the changes. It was quite 
simple to do it following your instructions.

Thank you for your help.

Joe.


On January 16, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 JCGroups wrote:
 
 Is there a simple way to edit the subscription page?
 
 
 Yes.
 
 
 Is there a way to change this using the browser-based user interface or does 
 the file for this page need to be modified?
 
 
 To edit the subscription form on the listonfo page for a single list,
 go to the list's web admin interface, follow the Edit the public HTML
 pages and text files link under Other Administrative Activities and
 edit the General list information page.
 
 If you want to change the page that applies by default to all lists in
 the installation or in a given domain see the FAQ at
 http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9. The name of the template is
 listinfo.html.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Giving away the secrets of 99.3% email delivery

2012-05-13 Thread Joe Sniderman
On 05/13/2012 01:39 AM, David wrote:

[snip]

 If you think of anything, please let me know. I have been reading all
 the DKIM related posts I can find, both on this list and other
 places.
 
 For a mailing list, would I have to expand my SigningTable in any
 way? 

No, as long as the list's domain is in your SigningTable.

 My opendkim SigningTable currently only has an entry for 
 *@list.example.com(which is associated with list._ 
 domainkey.example.com).
 
 But /var/log/mail.log shows a lot of entries like this:
 
 no signing table match for [some member of the list]

OpenDKIM is seeing the subscriber's domain as the sender domain, and is
basing its decision not to sign on the fact that the poster's domain is
not in the signing table.

If you want to sign outgoing messages, you probably want to sign based
on the list's domain, rather than the poster's domain.

By default, OpenDKIM only looks at the From message header to
determine the sender.

from opendkim.conf(5):

| SenderHeaders (dataset) Specifies an ordered list of header fields
| that should be searched to determine the sender of a message.  This
| is mainly used when verifying a message to determine the origin
| domain, particularly for doing domain policy queries.  By default,
| the  DKIM library's internal list is used, which consists solely of
| the From header field.

Assuming that your mailman instance adds a Sender header that matches
the list-name (or a verpified version thereof) to outgoing messages,
adding something like:

SenderHeaders   Sender,From

to your opendkim.conf *should* resolve the problem.
FWIW, making that config change resolved the issue in my case. YMMV.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman not reciving mail

2011-02-18 Thread Joe Madden

Hi all,
 
 
 
I recently bough a new URL and wanted to port over the mailman from the old url 
to the new url.
 
I did this by using the withlist script, edited the url, moved the mailman 
lists accross and checked the url - Working.
 
I then sent an email to the mailman system to post on the list and nothing, 
mailman didnt pick it up.
 
I then reverted the changes using the same method however i came up agienst the 
same issue (It was working before the url change)
 
I also made the relevent changes to mm_cfg.py.
 
If anyone has any suggestions that would be excellent.
 
thanks
 
Joe.  
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[Mailman-Users] Quick question for a newbie

2009-11-09 Thread Joe Ruffolo
I want my list members to be able to respond back to the original poster. So
when they hit reply the actually reply back to the person who posted the
message. How do I do this? I've tried changing all the settings in the admin
interface but nothing seems to work. The reply to is always
blank-boun...@mylist.com. How do I make the reply to be the sender of the
email?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Problem with our mailing list

2009-09-10 Thread Joe Finocchiaro
Hi,

We have been using your program for a while and every year when we set up a
new list we seem to have this same problem ‹ can you help me fix it.

The problem: How do we prevent people other than the administrator from
posting to the list?  We created a new list today and everyone keeps posting
to it... We don¹t want that option. We use this list as a one way
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[Mailman-Users] problems with mail robot -request

2009-06-12 Thread Joe

Dear Mailman-Users and Team,

i am using mailman for a long time now and like for once to say thanks 
for the good work!


 A while ago we migrated the server and the lists. It comes that i 
recognized a problem. A mail to the mail robot 
mylist-requ...@mylist.domain goes straight to the moderation-queue and 
the user got a bounce that the mail is held for approval. Even when the 
moderator approves the mail - it is published to the list and not to the 
mail-robot.


My first idea was that the migrated lists are buggy - but the same 
behaviour occurs after creating a new list.


We are using virtualhosts and postfix as a mta.

Any Ideas howto debug or which steps to take to get this problem solved 
are highly appreciated?


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[Mailman-Users] Removing moderation flag via the command line

2008-12-23 Thread Joe Auty
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Hello,

I'm trying to remove the moderator flag on some users via the command
line so that these users are allowed to post to lists where the
moderator flag is set by default. I found this posting from Feb. 2005,
but this doesn't appear to be working for me:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042396.html



My script in the Mailman base directory:

 # DU mailman Modules
 # This should live in the base Mailman install directory to be seen by the 
 withlist Mailman binary.
 
 from Mailman import mm_cfg
 from Mailman.Errors import NotAMemberError
 
 # Set a member's moderator flag to on or off
 # e.g. to disable moderation: setMemberModeratedFlag listname, email_address, 
 ''
 def setMemberModeratedFlag (mlist, addr, mod):
 #print Setting moderator flag to ,mod, for ,addr
 mlist.setMemberOption (addr, mm_cfg.Moderate, mod)
 mlist.Save()



My input:

# withlist -l -r du.setMemberModeratedFlag testlist myemailaddress ''
Importing du...
Running du.setMemberModeratedFlag()...
Loading list testlist (locked)
Unlocking (but not saving) list: testlist
Finalizing


(I also tried replacing the double quotes with off). This does not
actually remove the flag for this address - posting to the list by this
address still gets a bounce back saying that moderator approval is required.

Any ideas?





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing moderation flag via the command line

2008-12-23 Thread Joe Auty
Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Mark Sapiro wrote:
 
 Joe Auty wrote:
 snip
 This does not
 actually remove the flag for this address - posting to the list by this
 address still gets a bounce back saying that moderator approval is required.
 
 
 What is the reason why the post is held? Is it Post by moderated
 member or some other reason?
 


Post to moderated list

Does this change the advice you gave me? Sorry, I'm a little confused
sorting out the distinction between moderators, the moderator flag, a
moderated list, etc. Was my original description of my problem (wanting
to remove the moderator flag) accurate in terms of the problem I'm
trying to solve? I've been wondering if what I've been actually
accomplishing in my command is just allowing people the ability to
moderate other content - approving held messages. Are people that can do
this moderators, and is the moderator flag used for defining who is a
moderator, or who can post to a moderated list?

I simply want to accomplish the CLI equivalent of unchecking the mod
checkbox in the membership list within the web interface.



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[Mailman-Users] welcome message

2008-12-17 Thread Joe Damico
Hello,

We would like to make some slight modification to the Mailman welcome message 
for new subscribers at our location.  Where is this message located and if it 
is in Python code, how do we go about changing the text?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Having a number of problems

2008-12-03 Thread Joe Ruffolo
I've been trying for weeks to get mailman up and running. Im very new to
Linux, mailman, apache and all the MTA's.

I've followed all the write up's but can never seem to get mailman to work
correctly. 

Right now im at the point where if I create a newlist it will send an email
to the administrator of that list (me) but the links (URLS) it sends in the
email do not work (I get page not found errors). 

After fooling around and looking around I was able to access the web
management part of mailman ( by total luck I was tooling around and in
/var/mail/ i found an email that had the same URL on it and i copy and
pasted it and it worked. It only works on the server in which mailman runs
on) so I can administer my lists from there.

The problem is

I can mass subscribe a billion people and they actually receive the welcome
to such and such list but they cant email that list.  I don't know where the
email goes.  Afew days ago i was getting mailer daemon errors.

I also cant access the links to that list as well. 

What am I missing here!  

I am using sendmail as my MTA

Thanks in advnace!

Joe

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive -small problem

2007-02-14 Thread Joe Comeau
Thanks Mark,
indeed you found the exact problem.

A person before me installed mailman but didn't complete the task.
I re-installed with a clean setup but I didn't/don't fully understand all the 
settings.
in the mm_cfg.py file the setting for public archives was set to /pipermail/
This unfortunately was what the setting for the default_server.conf file was as 
well.
I must have just assumed they were the same and correct, obviously not.

Really appreciate your help

Joe




 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/13/2007 8:04 PM 
Joe Comeau wrote:

Almost everything is perfect except for the archives.
I have 3 test list, only one with a couple messages.
If you click on the link to go look at the archives for a list, instead of
getting the archive list, you get a files listing (ie no index file for 
apache) of the public folder
instead of the public/(list name).  If you type in the list name in the url it 
takes you to the archives and you can browse them.


I think you have an incorrect setting in mm_cfg.py for
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL. The default setting for this (in Defaults.py is

PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'

Perhaps you changed this for some reason and left off the /%(listname)s
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman archive -small problem

2007-02-13 Thread Joe Comeau
I have mailman 2.19 installed with postfix and apache2.

Almost everything is perfect except for the archives.
I have 3 test list, only one with a couple messages.
If you click on the link to go look at the archives for a list, instead of
getting the archive list, you get a files listing (ie no index file for apache) 
of the public folder
instead of the public/(list name).  If you type in the list name in the url it 
takes you to the archives and you can browse them.

This happens to any of the lists.  Any suggestions?  I think it might be in 
relation to the default-server.conf
but I believe that the alias for pipermail is correct.  I have the symbolic 
links for Apache otherwise I wouldn't be able to browse the archive folder.  
Something else?

Maybe the info is wrong for the default-server.conf or maybe it's in the 
mm_conf.py
Any help would be great


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[Mailman-Users] Email address with trailing space

2007-01-10 Thread Trader Joe
While doing mass subscription, I accidently put in
an extra space at the end of several email addresses
and now I'm unable to unsubscribe or remove these
email via Web tools.  Anyone know how to remove these?

Example: I put the address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED].

I really think removing trailing space should be part
of mass subscribtion function, since you can't really
have space in the email address.

Thanks for all the help.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman/Python FreeBSD port problem

2006-06-18 Thread Joe Auty
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Hello,

When I try to startup the Mailport FreeBSD port via its rc script, I  
get the following:


... snipped all sorts of stuff 

Traceback (most recent call last):
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
   File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
   File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
 Traceback (most recent call last):
 Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
import getopt
   File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
ImportErrorImportErrorTraceback (most recent call last):
: import getopt
:   File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
No module named getoptImportErrorNo module named getopt
:
import getopt
No module named getoptImportError
: No module named getopt



This same port works on another FreeBSD machine of mine. I've posed  
this question to the FreeBSD Questions list, but I seem to have  
baffled some, which is why I thought I would post this question here.  
I hope this appropriate to post here.

Anything I can try? I'm sort of flying blindly here




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman/Python FreeBSD port problem

2006-06-18 Thread Joe Auty


On Jun 18, 2006, at 12:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:


Joe Auty wrote:


When I try to startup the Mailport FreeBSD port via its rc script, I
get the following:


... snipped all sorts of stuff 

Traceback (most recent call last):
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?




First it seems some configuration step may have been missed. prefix
should have been replaced with a path - probably /usr/local/mailman/.


Hmmm...

How do I correct this?




  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix



Likewise exec-prefix


snip

import getopt
No module named getoptImportError
: No module named getopt



What happens if you gave a 'python' command and then type

import getopt

at the '' prompt. It should just return another '' prompt to
which you type control-D to exit. If it gives any error, something is
wrong with your python installation.



No problems there (no error messages)





This same port works on another FreeBSD machine of mine. I've posed
this question to the FreeBSD Questions list, but I seem to have
baffled some, which is why I thought I would post this question here.
I hope this appropriate to post here.



We probably can't be much help either. The output you posted seems
'interleaved' and is not too intelligible without knowing what is
being run. In general, we are not able to help much with 3rd party
packages when the problem is with the package rather than the
underlying Mailman.



Just in case you'd like to take a stab at this, I'm enclosing the  
full error message. I'd *really* appreciate your help if you are able  
to help me, since I'd really like to get Mailman running again on  
this computer somehow, and have reached the end of my rope...


# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh start
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Traceback (most recent call last):
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Traceback (most recent call last):
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Traceback (most recent call last):
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
jauty#   File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Traceback (most recent call

[Mailman-Users] problem: Message has implicit destination

2006-02-16 Thread Joe Damico
Hello,

 

Have any of you dealt with this problem of a message being held for
moderator approval? 

 

I went to the Sender filters admin page and I added the sender address to
the List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically
accepted.  But the messages are still being held for moderator approval.
The reason given is: Message has implicit destination. 

 

What does this mean?  Can I do anything about it?  These messages are sent
many times a day by a cron job on a UNIX server; so, it is truly a great
inconvenience to have to approve them all the time.

 

Joe

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[Mailman-Users] implicit destination

2006-02-16 Thread Joe Damico
Hello

 

Sorry about the previous message.  I just found the explanation of message
has implicit destination in the FAQ document.

 

Thanks anyway.

 

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[Mailman-Users] Change of server name -- sendmail problem

2006-02-10 Thread Joe Damico
Hello:

 

We have changed the name of our Solaris server.  I made the necessary
changes to /etc/host and the other associated host files. I ran the
fix_url.py procedure for all of the list names and I changed the mm_cfg.py
file so that the new host name appears for both DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and
DEFAULT_URL_HOST. I re-booted the machine and restarted sendmail, mailman,
and the apache web server.  I have no trouble getting to all of the lists
via the web, but mail is not being delivered to the lists.

 

It appears that something needs to be changed to make sendmail handle the
mail correctly. Do you have any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Joe

 

The error message looks like this (joe is the name of one of the mailman
lists that we are using for testing.)

 

 Error message text from bounced mail ---

 

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(reason: 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying
denied)

 

   - Transcript of session follows -

... while talking to [128.146.216.138]:

 

 DATA

 

 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied

550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown

 

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[Mailman-Users] Change of server name -- sendmail problem -- Resolved!

2006-02-10 Thread Joe Damico
Hello,

 

You can ignore my previous message (from 3:12 PM EST today).

 

We had a local network problem because there were two hosts named lists in
different domains.

We have resolved the problem

 

Thanks,

 

Joe

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman setup help....

2006-01-15 Thread joe
Hi all,

  I'm running postfix with virtual host and mysql.
I mainly followed the following guide:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml


I was wondering if there was any mailman documentation that is more
detailed.  I ran through the setup instructions and as far as I can tell.
it's just not doing anything... added the aliases etc.  The owner is not
getting notified.. nor can I send/receive emails sent to that account.

Any ideas suggestion would be appreciated.

Joe.




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[Mailman-Users] editing archive template

2005-12-22 Thread Joe Mezzanini
How do I edit the archibve template?
Which is here (for me)?
http://maillist.themezz.com/pipermail/themezz-themezz.com/

thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions on 'List Renaming' Misc.

2005-08-27 Thread Joe Espinoza
Mark;

Thanks again for all of the help and patience. In regards to this list
actually being an announcement list...you're absolutely right and
I'm now going through the link you provided.

Here's what I now plan on doing, based on your suggestions/feedback
and the information on the link you provided;

- Create a new list.

- Under the membership management page, I'll set the Additional Member Tasks to
  turn on the mod flag for all users. That way if anyone sends a msg
to the list, including me...it will sit and wait in the queue until I
release it. Which is nice, especially if I goof up and accidentally
send it out.

- Disable monthly password reminders.

- Strip out the List footer that's automatically added to each message
that's sent out.

Other than what I've listed above, is their anything else that I might
be missing?

For example, since the goal here is for everyone to NOT know that they
are on some sort of list...are their any other
daily/monthly/occasional msgs that Mailman MIGHT send out to the list
other than password reminders?

Also, with this type of List and what I want to accomplish, how can
'automatic bounce-message processing' either help or hinder my goals?

Thanks again for all of the help!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions on 'List Renaming' Misc.

2005-08-27 Thread Joe Espinoza
Mark, again a million 'Thank You's'! Regarding the Automated bounce
processing, can I just disable this?

If so, should an email message 'bounce' how will I be notified if I
disable the 'automated bounce processing option? I guess in this case,
I do want to have interaction and intervene manually.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions on 'List Renaming' Misc.

2005-08-27 Thread Joe Espinoza
Mark;

Thank you so much!

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[Mailman-Users] Questions on 'List Renaming' Misc.

2005-08-25 Thread Joe Espinoza
Regarding an earlier question on changing the headers;

I guess something similar can be achieved by;

- Changing the name of the list, to something less obvious

- Enabling the 'Moderated' option for all users by default, so that
way anyone that attempts to post to the list...will not be able to. It
will sit in queue instead and wait for me to release it

Does this sound ok? Is there a better way to achieve something like
this? What are your thoughts?

Also, can I easily change the name of the list from the Mailman UI
or do I have to
create a new one?

One more thing, since I'm still a big n00be on email related stuff;

What are the advantages of setting up a mailing list such as this,
instead of copying and pasting tons of email addresses in the 'bcc'
field?

I've noticed that when I have done the 'copy  paste' method, I get
delivery failures/bounce messages, because I'm sending to way too many
recipients. Is this one way how a mailing list provides a greater
advantage? Just sending to one email address instead of many?

Sincerely,

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[Mailman-Users] Question about 'Footer' that is automatically added by MailMan Members List Info

2005-08-24 Thread Joe Espinoza
Greetings All;

I'm a band new user to MailMan and I have a few quick questions.

1.) Questions On Footer

In a few test messages that I've sent out with MailMan, I notice that
MailMan adds a footer, something like this:

___
   %(real_name)s mailing list
   %(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s
   %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s

Now in your FAQ, it does give some examples of variables that are used
in order to generate the footer.

My question is, if I want to totally edit the footer and possibly add
let's say a jpeg/gif to it...is this possible? If so, how?

If I want to completely strip out the footer, so it either shows no
information or the footer is not even added...is this possible? If so,
how?

2.) Questions On Members List

Within the MailMan WebUI it allows me to view the Members List. I can
also go to the specific WebUI for each specific Mailing List and view
the member info there.

My question is, is there a way to 'download' or 'export' this
information in plain ascii/text format? Is this information already
kept in a similar format somewhere in the MailMan directories?

FYI, I have a VPS Server running Fedora-Core 2. I have full root/ssh
access as well and I'm utilizing MailMan through the cPanel interface.

Thanks ahead of time!

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[Mailman-Users] Changing Auto-responder subject

2005-03-30 Thread Joe Sporleder
I am using Mailman 2.1.2 that came with my MacOS X 10.3 Server. When 
using the auto-responder, it has this format in the subject field

Auto-response for your message to the listname mailing list.
Is there an easy way to change what the Auto-response does to the 
subject? I would like it to make the subject header be:
RE: sender's subject.

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[Mailman-Users] http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/lists.html

2005-01-29 Thread Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley
The link on http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/lists.html to
http://listowner.org/ is broken as that domain no longer (and has not for
some time) existed.

I have a listowner-side bug which (after reporting to the local server
administrator) I wanted to report on that list to see if anyone else had
experienced something similar.  Google suggests there is no replacement
list.  Has it been subsumed into mailto:mailman-users@python.org ?

Happy hacking,
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[Mailman-Users] Moving Mailman on MacOS X Servers?

2005-01-14 Thread Joe Sporleder
I'm running Mailman 2.1.2 that came with my MacOS X Panther server at 
work, and really enjoy Mailman as a list server. I have a couple of old 
lists running on an old Mac that I am considering moving them and the 
associated domain to my work server. If I upgrade to my own MacOS X 
Panther/Tiger Server a few months or a year or two down the road, there 
shouldn't be any issues of moving Mailman lists, including archives, 
between one server and another, should there? Thanks to any insight or 
gotchas I should think about.

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[Mailman-Users] command lines via email

2004-09-24 Thread Joe Mezzanini
is there a list of command that can be sent to mailman via email

like (un)subscribe, who, vacation, stop ?

thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] descriptors on listinfo page

2004-09-17 Thread Joe Mezzanini
I cannot seem to find where I can edit the description of each mail list on

http://themezz.com/mailman/listinfo

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] deleting

2004-09-17 Thread Joe Mezzanini
I created a couple of test lists now I need to delete just one of them.
How do I delete one?
I do not see it anywhere on the admin menus

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[Mailman-Users] announce only

2004-09-17 Thread Joe Mezzanini
I created an announce only mail list using the instructions here  
http://www.modwest.com/help/kb13-195.html

It works fine, but I get the auto responder with every post that I make.  am the list 
admin and do not want to get the autoresponder  - -anyway to disable it for me, or 
perhaps a better way to make the announce only list in the 1st place?

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Using topics vs. Additional Lists

2004-06-24 Thread Joe Burkhart
I'm using version 2.1.2, and when you find a member using the member
management screen, there is no listing for topics. Following are the
displayed options:

unsub | member address, member name | mod | hide | nomail | ack | not metoo
| nodupes | digest | plain | language

Any other suggestions?  Maybe there's a way to do this at the command line?

Thanks,

Joe

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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 6:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Using topics vs. Additional Lists


I would say that the main advantage to topics is that the list admin 
only has to maintain one list. Also, the subscribers can opt to receive 
only information defined by topic, or others not defined by any topic.

If you want to check the topics for a particular subscriber, you can 
enter their email address in the user page and see the topics. However, 
you would only be able to do this for each subscriber.

-- 
Christopher Adams




Joe Burkhart wrote:

First, we're planning a one-way list that our organization will use to 
send updates and news to subscribers and not accept postings from 
members. We have several categories of messages that may be sent out 
depending on the program the message pertains to.  We're weighing the 
benefits of using one main list with different topics setup for each 
category against using separate lists for each category. Does anyone 
have an opinion about using topics instead of creating separate lists 
in our  situation?

Second, one major disadvantage I can see in using topics is that as the 
admin, you can't see which topics a member has selected to receive. So, 
there's no way to judge the effectiveness/popularity of your topics. Is 
there some way to see this?

Thanks,

Joe

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Using topics vs. Additional Lists

2004-06-24 Thread Joe Burkhart
Now I see that as the admin you can search for a user on the member
management screen then click the hyperlinked email address for them.  (I'm
so used to seeing email addresses linked with mailto: that I don't consider
it might actually go somewhere anymore.)  Thanks for pointing that out.

But, it would be very helpful to be able to query for a list of all members
subscribed to a particular topic from the command line or elsewhere.  Is
that possible?

--Joe

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Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:35 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Using topics vs. Additional Lists


I'm using version 2.1.2, and when you find a member using the member
management screen, there is no listing for topics. Following are the
displayed options:

unsub | member address, member name | mod | hide | nomail | ack | not metoo
| nodupes | digest | plain | language

Any other suggestions?  Maybe there's a way to do this at the command line?

Thanks,

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 6:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Using topics vs. Additional Lists


I would say that the main advantage to topics is that the list admin 
only has to maintain one list. Also, the subscribers can opt to receive 
only information defined by topic, or others not defined by any topic.

If you want to check the topics for a particular subscriber, you can 
enter their email address in the user page and see the topics. However, 
you would only be able to do this for each subscriber.

-- 
Christopher Adams




Joe Burkhart wrote:

First, we're planning a one-way list that our organization will use to
send updates and news to subscribers and not accept postings from 
members. We have several categories of messages that may be sent out 
depending on the program the message pertains to.  We're weighing the 
benefits of using one main list with different topics setup for each 
category against using separate lists for each category. Does anyone 
have an opinion about using topics instead of creating separate lists 
in our  situation?

Second, one major disadvantage I can see in using topics is that as the
admin, you can't see which topics a member has selected to receive. So, 
there's no way to judge the effectiveness/popularity of your topics. Is 
there some way to see this?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Using topics vs. Additional Lists

2004-06-18 Thread Joe Burkhart
First, we're planning a one-way list that our organization will use to send
updates and news to subscribers and not accept postings from members. We
have several categories of messages that may be sent out depending on the
program the message pertains to.  We're weighing the benefits of using one
main list with different topics setup for each category against using
separate lists for each category. Does anyone have an opinion about using
topics instead of creating separate lists in our  situation?

Second, one major disadvantage I can see in using topics is that as the
admin, you can't see which topics a member has selected to receive. So,
there's no way to judge the effectiveness/popularity of your topics. Is
there some way to see this?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman-htdig bug or configuration error

2004-04-21 Thread Joe Kissell
Hello all,

I have a fully functional installation of Mailman 2.1.4 (with patch 
#444884 for htdig integration) running on Mac OS X Server 10.3.3. The 
Mailman lists themselves work correctly, as does htdig by itself. On 
the TOC page for any list's archives, I get the Search box and 
indicator of when the index was last rebuilt, just as I should. 
However, when I perform a search on any term, I get the following:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
main()
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/mmsearch.py, line 211, in main
child.tochild.close()
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
Something tells me this may be due to some trivial configuration issue, 
such as an error in mm_cfg.py, but I'm stumped. Can anyone offer any 
guidance?

Thanks,

Joe Kissell

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-htdig bug or configuration error

2004-04-21 Thread Joe Kissell
On Apr 21, 2004, at 5:26 PM, George Theall wrote:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
main()
  File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/mmsearch.py, line 211, in main
child.tochild.close()
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
Something tells me this may be due to some trivial configuration 
issue,
such as an error in mm_cfg.py, but I'm stumped. Can anyone offer any
guidance?
I've seen this if permissions on htsearch (pointed to by
HTDIG_HTSEARCH_PATH in mm_cfg.py) don't permit it to be executed by the
web user / group.
Aha! Looks like it also occurs when one has a typo in mm_cfg.py 
(HTDIG_SEARCH_PATH instead of HTDIG_HTSEARCH_PATH). Oops. But thanks 
for the tip--it pointed me in the right direction! Everything's working 
now.

Joe

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[Mailman-Users] How do we send to people in the mailing list?

2004-02-04 Thread Joe
Hello, we are running Mailman 2.1.1

I can't find how to send emails to people on the list?  Please advise.

Thanks...

Joe
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[Mailman-Users] Using VERP to avoid sobig bounces?

2003-09-11 Thread Joe Orton
If we turn on VERP, how is mail to the unqualified -bounces@
address processed? Is it ignored?

At the moment we are frequently getting subscriptions disabled
on the webdav.org lists (which don't use VERP) by stray SoBig
bounces using a real subscriber as the return address and
-bounces@ as the recipient.

Will turning on VERP avoid this headache?

Also, following the URL in the automatic your subscription
has been disabled please go to this URL to confirm always
results in an Invalid confirmation string message, any
ideas how to fix that?

Regards,

joe

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[Mailman-Users] administrative commands

2003-07-24 Thread Joe Sternlicht
how do you send administrative commands to a mailman list? There is an 
option to intercept them, but what are the commands. I'm looking for a 
quick and easy way to put a 'subscribe to this list' button on a page, I 
figured the easiest thing would be to generate an email with a subscribe 
command, but I don't know the format. I expected one of the following to 
work: blank email with subject subscribe sent to the list, or  have the 
body be a subscribe command. is there something like that?

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[Mailman-Users] generating archives in Mailman 2.1.1

2003-06-03 Thread Joe Hewitt
Hi,
 
I've got an mbox about 28MB in size. bin/arch is not generating the
index.html for archives properly. Oddly, all other html files look okay.
 
The application does not seem to be substituting the database values
into the template. The index.html resulting shows only the variable
values like %listname%.
 
Any ideas how to generate the proper index.html file.
 
Thanks,
Joe
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman

2003-03-02 Thread Joe Newman
I don't have my own server.  I pay for space through webmasters.com.  Is
there a way to still use it with that?

Joe Frost Newman
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman


 Definitely install it on your Linux box.  If you read the dependencies you
 will see that the box needs to have a Mail-server running on it (Sendmail
or
 Postfix work just fine).  You also need Apache (the web-server) configured
 and running - the standard configuration should work just fine.

 You will need Python version 2.2.x running on the box for the latest
version
 of Mailman to work (version 2.1.1.).  You should also make sure that your
 Linux server is defined properly in DNS and that it's host name resolves
 properly on the box as well as locally (use the hostname command to figure
 out what it thinks it's host name is).

 With all that in place and working (which is not a lot since most of that
is
 standard), then you can download and install Mailman from source very
 easily.  Down load Mailman from Sourceforge.  It will come as a big file
 named something like: mailman_2.1.1.tar.gz
 Expand the file using the following command:  tar -xzf
mailman_2.1.1.tar.gz
 This will create a directory named mailman: cd mailman
 Now read the file INSTALL  it will tell you to create a user on your
 system named mailman and a group on the system named mailman, and then
 it will give you two commands to run:
   ./configure
   make install

 You may need to add some switches to ./configure if you are running some
odd
 variants of a Mail-server or web-server.  For specific instructions on
 various Mail-servers read the README files that are in the same directory
as
 the INSTALL file.

 Good Luck - Jon Carnes

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 Ok, I've looked around in the FAQ and archives and I'm still not sure how
to
 install Mailman.  I have Windows XP but I saw it wasn't recommended to
 install on Windows.  The server my site uses is Linux.  How do I install
on
 that server and do I still need Python for that?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman

2003-03-02 Thread Joe Newman
Yeah there is supposed to be some database thing where I can send to an
email list but I don't know how to set it up and it costs money to get them
to do it.  Money I don't have.  I was lookin for quicker and easier way to
send emails.  Right now I just copy and paste the emails in Outlook Express
and send that way.  I don't like it much though.  Seems like a lot of people
don't get the emails.  I thought maybe I was sending over the sendlimit but
never got a message sayin that, and I've gotten one before so I dunno.

Joe Frost Newman
Out Of Breath Productions
www.outofbreath.com
AIM: Frost350
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 Joe Newman wrote:
  I don't have my own server.  I pay for space through webmasters.com.  Is
  there a way to still use it with that?

 You can ask them to install mailman, they should know how to do that (if
 not, be worried :).  However, a quick look at their web hosting options
show
 that they provide Q-Mailer for mailing lists.  I've never used that but
 depending on what your need/goals are it might suffice.

 If webmasters.com won't install mailman for you then you can look for
 another host if you really want mailman, many provide it standard.  If
 you're just looking to play with the software, I'd recommend setting up a
 linux or *bsd box.  The experience of doing so is well worth the effort,
if
 only so you'll be able to better understand when some tech support guy at
 your host or ISP is BS'ing you about a problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman

2003-03-02 Thread Joe Newman
Well, it does have mailing list software, I just haven't mastered setting it
up.  I'll work it out...thanks for the input tho.  So far, I haven't found
anything that beats my host.  750MB space and 20GB bandwidth.  Linux Server.
It's not bad.  But we'll see.  Thanks again.  Peace.

Joe Frost Newman
Out Of Breath Productions
www.outofbreath.com
AIM: Frost350
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  Yeah there is supposed to be some database thing where I can send to an
  email list but I don't know how to set it up and it costs money to get
  them to do it.  Money I don't have.

 Perhaps you want to look for a host that provides mailing list software as
 part of their standard package then.

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[Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman

2003-03-01 Thread Joe Newman
Ok, I've looked around in the FAQ and archives and I'm still not sure how to install 
Mailman.  I have Windows XP but I saw it wasn't recommended to install on Windows.  
The server my site uses is Linux.  How do I install on that server and do I still need 
Python for that?

Joe Frost Newman
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[Mailman-Users] installation instructions

2002-10-11 Thread Joe Chapuis
Hello:

I am trying to install mailman per the
instructions at: http://www.list.org/install-start.html

However, the page is mostly blank.

It says:

IMPORTANT: Pay special attention to the step below where you
have to set up your crontab entries. If you do not do this,
Mailman will not work.

Unfortunately, there is nothing below that point.

Any suggestions?

Thank You,
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Commands Not Being Processed

2002-07-07 Thread Joe Tomasone


I had to go back to 2.0.11 - 2.0.12 simply did not work properly for me.

 - Joe


At 12:23 AM 7/8/2002, Andy Firman wrote:

That is almost the same problem I have.
This is the post about my problem:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-July/020939.html

Are you running Mailman 2.0.12?
I see that was just released July 2.
Possible bug?  I have a feeling it may be a Sendmail issue.

Can anybody help us here?

Thanks,
Andy

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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Commands Not Being Processed


It appears that my test list is working, as messages to it are getting
posted.
Archiving also seems to be working.  However, messages to test-request
aren't
getting processed.  That includes messages containing the help and
unsubscribe
commands.  Don't know 'bout other commands as I haven't tried them (yet).

Here's what's appearing in the error file:

02 qrunner(25495): AttributeError :  'string' object has no attribute
'lower'
02 qrunner(25498): Traceback (innermost last):
02 qrunner(25498):   File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 283, in ?
02 qrunner(25498):  kids = main(lock)
02 qrunner(25498):   File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 253, in main
02 qrunner(25498):  keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata)
02 qrunner(25498):   File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 157, in
dispose_me
02 qrunner(25498):  mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg)
02 qrunner(25498):   File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py,
line
1
02 qrunner(25498):  precedence = msg.get('precedence', '').lower()
02 qrunner(25498): AttributeError :  'string' object has no attribute
'lower'

Can anyone translate this and suggest a fix, please?  Thanks, in advance,
for any
help offered.

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[Mailman-Users] Help setting up Mailman - registration confirmation fails

2002-07-06 Thread Joe Tomasone


Hi folks,

   Trying to replace Lyris with Mailman in a RH7.2/Postfix environment, 
and it hasn't been easy.   I've got it working - basically.  I can create 
lists, and users can attempt to subscribe.  They get a confirmation email, 
but the reply (received by postfix) never gets processed.  I get the 
following in $prefix/logs/error:

Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293): Traceback (innermost last):
Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293):   File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 283, in 
?
Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293):  kids = main(lock)
Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293):   File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 253, in 
main
Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293):  keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, 
msgdata)
Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293):   File /home/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 157, in 
dispose_message
Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293):  mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg)
Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293):   File 
/home/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py, line 123, in ParseMailCommands
Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293):  precedence = msg.get('precedence', 
'').lower()
Jul 05 23:53:01 2002 qrunner(19293): AttributeError :  'string' object has no 
attribute 'lower' 


The user does not wind up in a subscribed status.


Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks!


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[Mailman-Users] Fixed the problem

2002-07-06 Thread Joe Tomasone


Seems that 2.0.12 might have some issues.  Backed it to 2.0.11 and it's 
working fine.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration from YahooGroups

2002-05-30 Thread Joe Stewart


Googled:  http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~zeitlin/yahoo2mbox.html

I've used this to move a few lists OK.

good luck,

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman not updating /etc/aliases properly

2002-05-21 Thread Joe Brouhard

Hey there.. I'm new to the list, and I'm having some rather...
Stupifying problems.

I did the install, just as the INSTALL file told me to do:

./configure --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mail

However, when it's all done, mailman *WORKS*.. But the /etc/aliases file
is not auto updated when I create lists.

Any ideas on what could be wrong?  I think the mail gid may be wrong..
Should I change it to something else, root maybe? G

Thanks in advance.

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[Mailman-Users] Help with using mailman

2002-04-25 Thread Joe Ulveling



I am using mailman 
for the first time and I have questions about sending and replying 
options. I have a monthly newsletter that Iwant to send to a list of 
200 subscribers. However,I do notwant them to be able to see 
each othersemail addresses nor do I want them to be able to "reply to 
all". Is this possible using apublic mailing list like 
mailman?

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[Mailman-Users] check_perms problems

2002-02-18 Thread Joe Kirby

My lists are working just fine, and all of the command line admin
features work.

When I go to http://server/mailman/admin/listname and enter my site
password, I get an error back saying Authorization Failed. I have
tried setting the site password using mmsitepass. Everything worked fine
last month. I can't thing if anything that I have done other than apply
the RedHat upgrades.

Any suggestions?

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[Mailman-Users] Check_perms (Part II)

2002-02-18 Thread Joe Kirby

Sorry! I forgot to show the problem with check_perms.

When I try to run ./check_perms :


Traceback (innermost last):
  File ./check_perms, line 50, in ?
MAILMAN_GRPNAME = grp.getgrgid(MAILMAN_GID)[0]
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[Mailman-Users] Subscribe users without confirmation

2002-02-18 Thread Joe Mizzi



How would i be able to subscribe users through the web 
interface without having them reply to a confirmation email?

Joe


[Mailman-Users] Log Files

2002-02-08 Thread Joe Mizzi



How can i suppress Alert messages from log files?
My logs are getting waaay to big because of an error i know 
about


[Mailman-Users] Hotmail

2002-02-06 Thread Joe Mizzi



All hotmail address do not recieve anything from my mailing 
list. All other domains work. Why is this?


[Mailman-Users] qmail + mailman

2002-02-02 Thread Joe Mizzi



Im having some trouble with large posts (around 400k, their 
html) 
Each time mailman sends these large posts out, it gets to 
about the 3rd or 4th user then just hangs qmail.
Qmail then needs to be restarted to work again

I know this isn't a qmail mailing list but help would be 
greatly appreciated

Joe


[Mailman-Users] Qmail and Mailman

2002-02-02 Thread Joe Mizzi

Im having some trouble with large posts (around 400k, their html)=20
Each time mailman sends these large posts out, it gets to about the 3rd =
or 4th user then just hangs qmail.
Qmail then needs to be restarted to work again

I know this isn't a qmail mailing list but help would be greatly =
appreciated

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[Mailman-Users] list server and mailman

2001-12-29 Thread Joe Wise

Is there anyone using mailman as a list-server who can help a newbie?  I am
a physics teacher at a school in Santa Monica and I want to have my class on
a list.

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] list-serve

2001-12-29 Thread Joe Wise

I thought so.  Here goes.  I set up a new list and it sends me a
confirmation e-mail that I have a new list set up.  I go to the website to
configure my list as the administrator.  I then try to join my list.  I get
an e-mail saying that I have to respond in order for my request to be
validated.  I resspond and get a mail daemon saying that the user is not
known.

Any help?

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[Mailman-Users] html email

2001-12-20 Thread Joe Saladino
Title: html email






Hi:

I have been using Majordomo for some time now and it is causing a problem with things like long html links. I was wondering if Mailman will work with HTML code or just plain text like Majordomo and if it will support attachments.

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[Mailman-Users] html email

2001-12-20 Thread Joe Saladino

Hi:

I have been using Majordomo for some time now and it is causing a
problem with things like long html links.  I was wondering if Mailman
will work with HTML code or just plain text like Majordomo and if it
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[Mailman-Users] getting rid of admin request notices

2001-12-11 Thread Joe Hewitt

Hi,

I'm not much of a programmer, but I did manage write a little python program 
that will zap pending requests and delete the held-msg messages. 

I would like to be able to turn off the notices when I remove the requests 
and the messages, but mailman continues to send the admin notices.  The one 
good thing is that after I run the script and go to the admin request screen, 
I can click 'submit' once and mailman cleans up the database and recognizes 
that the requests are gone.

Is there a flag that I change to stop the notices on my non-existent admin 
requests? I'm obviously missing a step here.

Any help would be appreciated.  I'm running 2.05.

Thanks.
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[Mailman-Users] authentication

2001-11-27 Thread Joe Wise

My students and I keep getting a user unknown message back when I try to
subscribe to my list-serve.  The message goes out fine.  It is in the reply
that something gets fowled up.  Is there something I have done wrong in the
configuration?

My main mail server is on a W2k box on the network.  I have it set to relay
mail for raven.newroads.org to the mailman box.  I seem to be able to get
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] through.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] billing for mailing lists

2001-10-30 Thread Joe Keenan

cd ~mailman
bin/list_members listname  | wc

first number will be membership count.

joe

On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 08:53  AM, Albert Everett wrote:

 Anyone have any magic formulas for how to bill for mailing lists so that 
 it's fair for the client and covers hardware and bandwidth costs?

 Is the file that has the list membership countable by line? I could see a 
 monthly script that counts the membership file and bills per member. That 
 wouldn't consider how busy a list might be, though.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] setting up new list-Cobalt RaQ4

2001-10-07 Thread Joe Keenan

I'm just guess here (never used a RaQ system), but it oocurs to me that 
the RaQ sendmail config is probably set up for no local users.  That is, 
for relaying mail only.  It's primarily intended for network attached 
storage uses, right?

So you probably need to force sendmail to attempt to do local delivery of 
the Mailman addresses.  It's probably not looking at the aliases file at 
all, since it doesn't think that it's a final delivery point.

joe

On Saturday, October 6, 2001, at 10:50  PM, Paul wrote:

 More info I found while poking around my system:

 When I try to set up my first list-test, it's Sendmail on the RaQ
 that doesn't seem to want to cooperate.
 When you set up a list in Mailman, it outputs a few lines which you should
 put in /etc/aliases (/etc/mail/aliases on the RaQ) for Sendmail. They look
 something like this:
 test:|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test
 test-admin:  |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test
 test-request:|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test
 test-owner:  test-admin

 So, I guess you're supposed to copy those into /etc/mail/aliases and run 
 the
 command
 newaliases from root. Done. However, I got this in Mailman's log:

 Oct 06 19:15:32 2001 (600) All recipients refused: (553, '5.3.0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... No such user here',
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]')

 I have tried completely deleting the list test and re-creating it, and
 doing a full reboot of the server (several times)
 Then, I had the idea: Why not make an alias file for Mailman? Majordomo 
 has
 its own alias file, found at /etc/mail/aliases.majordomo. Why not do the
 same for Mailman?
 So, I deleted the entries I put in /etc/mail/aliases, created the file (as
 root) /etc/mail/aliases.mailman, and put a line in sendmail.cf:

 O AliasFile=/etc/mail/aliases.mailman

 I ran newaliases and it processed aliases.mailman fine.
 However, Sendmail STILL DOES NOT want to link with Mailman! I get the 
 same
 errors as before, even after a full reboot!!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installing on OS X

2001-10-05 Thread Joe Keenan

MacOS X doesn't come with python.  How did you install it?  And that are 
those files in /usr/local/bin?  OS X executables don't have a .exe 
extension.  Did you grab a Windows install package?

joe

On Friday, October 5, 2001, at 01:31  AM, Giovanni 8 wrote:

 I'm trying to install on OS X (10.1) and am getting
 a complaint about python not existing... but...

  ./configure --prefix=/Users/mailman/Documents --exec-
 prefix=/Users/mailman/Documents/bin --with-var-
 prefix=/Users/mailman/Documents/mutable --with-
 python=/usr/local/bin/python.exe


 Compiling /Users/mailman/Documents/Mailman/versions.py ...
 env: python: No such file or directory
 [gosc:~/Documents/sources/mailman-2.0.6] mailman% % ls -l /usr/local/bin
 total 3912
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 aaa  wheel  48 Mar  1  2001 pydoc
 -rwxr-xr-x  2 aaa  wheel  996596 Oct  4 15:32 python.exe
 -rwxr-xr-x  2 aaa  wheel  996596 Oct  4 15:32 python2.1.exe

 I tried the bin/check_perms -f
 a couple times but it just repeated the complaint.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Dropping Sendmail

2001-10-03 Thread Joe Keenan

For me, I think it was actually nothing.  Mailman uses the sendmail 
interface to send outgoing mail, and the Postfix version just dropped into 
place.  And the aliases file entries that Mailman generates work fine with 
Postfix.

joe

On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 12:59  PM, J C Lawrence wrote:

 On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:46:46 -0600
 Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, I was wondering... what do I need to do to Mailman to tell it
 to use postfix instead of sendmail?

 Pretty close to nothing.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] email list question

2001-10-02 Thread Joe Keenan


On Tuesday, October 2, 2001, at 05:16  PM, J C Lawrence wrote:

 On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 15:54:38 -0500
 bwilson  becca wrote:

 Can we add email addresses to the database without having to
 confirm their address?

 ~/bin/add_members

 Is there a way to export the addresses?

 ~/bin/remove_members


I think she really wants ~/bin/list_members.  Export, not expunge.

joe


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[Mailman-Users] looking to run your software

2001-09-10 Thread Joe Aaron Este

i own a fairly popular site called wigsalon.com - we sell 
wigs

mailing list size about 10,000 readying for 20,000

i was about to buy a program called mailer mailer

when my son who SQL programs my site in NYC said that you had the best
product but it ran in UNIX or some code or computer that i did not
have

he said i should get in touch with a company that uses your product

and resells it in a user-friendly format i guess

can you please send me a list of such companies ..if they
exist ???

or give me some advice

thanks



Joe Aaron Este
Internet Director
Paris Boutique Wig
Salon
URL: www.wigsalon.com
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [Mailman-Users] configuration problem

2001-05-14 Thread Joe Copeland

I am able to access the admin and listinfo page fine.  The error comes when
I try to delve deeper into modifying the list information itself.

For instance I (and you) can accesst the page
http://www.deangelus.com/mailman/admin. But when I click on the link to
access the test2 list, the webserver times out.

I think that the ScriptAlias directive in apache is doing it's job fine.

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/

It must be since I am able to access the page
http://www.deangelus.com/mailman/admin and
http://www.deangelus.com/mailman/listinfo.

The breakdown appears when I try to administer the individual list or try to
subscribe to the individual list.  That is the information contained in
/var/mailman/lists/test2

Is there any way I can get some more information that may help resolve this
problem?  The error logs show nothing helpful.

What is interesting is if I go to try to administer a nonexistent list such
as http://www.deangelus.com/mailman/admin/no_such_list, I get a proper reply
from Mailman saying that the list does not exist and an error in the
../mailman/logs/error file.  But when I try to administer an existing list,
Mailman hangs on me.

Thanks for you help,

Joe

- Original Message -
From: vijay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Joe Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] configuration problem



 Hello joe,

 webserver is unable to resolve your hostname or domainname, by
 default Mailman takes system configuration like hostname etc. Check you
 DEFAULT_URL in Mailman/Defaults.py. change it to your
 http://IPADDRESS/mailman.

 Regards
 Vijay

 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mailman Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 14:58:51 -0700
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] configuration problem

  Hi,
 
  I'm trying to set up mailman but I'm not getting something right.
 
  When I go to my mailman site's admin page,
  http://www.deangeuls.com/mailman/admin, I can see a list of links that
  I
  have set up with the ./newlist command.  But when I click on one of the
  links to administer the list, I get nowhere.
 
  I'm Running RH7.1 and Apache.  Any ideas what's wrong?  I tried
  installing
  off the tarball and the RPM from Red Hat, but I can't get over this big
  hump.
 
  Joe
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] configuration problem

2001-05-14 Thread Joe Copeland

Ok, now I'm getting somewhere with this mailman installation.

I intstalled the mailman RPM on my laptop which has RH7.0 installed.  I can
now peruse the ../admin/testlist page.  I couldn't do that with the RH7.1.
So there's something about RH7.1 that prohibits mailman from working
properly.  One of the differences between RH7.1 and RH7.0 are some security
tweaks.

Figuring this one out is going to be a challenge for me since I'm no expert.
If anyone gets mailman working on RH7.1 please let me, and the list know how
you did it.

Thanks,

Joe


- Original Message -
From: arif [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Joe Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] configuration problem


 Just out of curiosity, does the list itself work?  I ask because I'm
 wondering if this is a problem with mailman, or with apache and hence only
 the web-interface to mailman.

 -arif

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Copeland
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:50 PM
 To: vijay
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] configuration problem


 I am able to access the admin and listinfo page fine.  The error comes
when
 I try to delve deeper into modifying the list information itself.

 For instance I (and you) can accesst the page
 http://www.deangelus.com/mailman/admin. But when I click on the link to
 access the test2 list, the webserver times out.

 I think that the ScriptAlias directive in apache is doing it's job fine.

 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/

 It must be since I am able to access the page
 http://www.deangelus.com/mailman/admin and
 http://www.deangelus.com/mailman/listinfo.

 The breakdown appears when I try to administer the individual list or try
to
 subscribe to the individual list.  That is the information contained in
 /var/mailman/lists/test2

 Is there any way I can get some more information that may help resolve
this
 problem?  The error logs show nothing helpful.

 What is interesting is if I go to try to administer a nonexistent list
such
 as http://www.deangelus.com/mailman/admin/no_such_list, I get a proper
reply
 from Mailman saying that the list does not exist and an error in the
 ../mailman/logs/error file.  But when I try to administer an existing
list,
 Mailman hangs on me.

 Thanks for you help,

 Joe

 - Original Message -
 From: vijay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Joe Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] configuration problem


 
  Hello joe,
 
  webserver is unable to resolve your hostname or domainname, by
  default Mailman takes system configuration like hostname etc. Check you
  DEFAULT_URL in Mailman/Defaults.py. change it to your
  http://IPADDRESS/mailman.
 
  Regards
  Vijay
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joe Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Mailman Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 14:58:51 -0700
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] configuration problem
 
   Hi,
  
   I'm trying to set up mailman but I'm not getting something right.
  
   When I go to my mailman site's admin page,
   http://www.deangeuls.com/mailman/admin, I can see a list of links that
   I
   have set up with the ./newlist command.  But when I click on one of
the
   links to administer the list, I get nowhere.
  
   I'm Running RH7.1 and Apache.  Any ideas what's wrong?  I tried
   installing
   off the tarball and the RPM from Red Hat, but I can't get over this
big
   hump.
  
   Joe
  
  
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[Mailman-Users] configuration problem

2001-05-13 Thread Joe Copeland

Hi,

I'm trying to set up mailman but I'm not getting something right.

When I go to my mailman site's admin page,
http://www.deangeuls.com/mailman/admin, I can see a list of links that I
have set up with the ./newlist command.  But when I click on one of the
links to administer the list, I get nowhere.

I'm Running RH7.1 and Apache.  Any ideas what's wrong?  I tried installing
off the tarball and the RPM from Red Hat, but I can't get over this big
hump.

Joe


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