Re: [Mailman-Users] Second Name
On 07/23/2017 08:19 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > If Mailman can't do this itself, I'd try to get the MTA that interfaces > with Mailman to do help. Specifically, create aliases for list2 that > actually reference list1. > > Ultimately both SMTP envelope addresses would pass into the same list > inside of Mailman. Note: You may need to tweak the mailing list inside of Mailman and make it aware that it has an additional name / email address that it should treat as being to the list. -- Grant. . . . unix || die ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Second Name
On 07/23/2017 06:09 PM, David Andrews wrote: > One of my users has requested a list -- let's call it > li...@example.org. He wants a second name for this list -- > li...@example.org He says he heard Mailman can do this. I have > experimented a little, but can't see how. > > Can Mailman do this -- and if so, what do I do. It's been a long time since I've admined Mailman, so I'm not sure. If Mailman can't do this itself, I'd try to get the MTA that interfaces with Mailman to do help. Specifically, create aliases for list2 that actually reference list1. Ultimately both SMTP envelope addresses would pass into the same list inside of Mailman. list1: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post list1" list1-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin list1" list1-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list1" list2: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post list1" list2-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin list1" list2-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list1" -- Grant. . . . unix || die -------------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and gmail
Hi Kevin GMAIL is a problem itself. On another mailing list (which is not a Mailman list and I am not a moderator or something like that), messages seem even to be held back by GMAIL and not delivered at all to the subscribers. I am not sure whether a GMAIL user can "educate" the mail server to not consider certain messages as spam/junk by unmarking them and moving them into the normal inbox. Christian > Kevin Nowaczyk via Mailman-Users <mailto:mailman-users@python.org> > 19. Juli 2017 um 15:13 > I've recently been hearing that some subscribers to a club mailing > list who use gmail are having all messages pushed to their spam > folder. One user said it's only an issue when the sender is a gmail > user as well. I'm running mailman 2.1.23 and had > dmarc_moderation_action set to the default value..which I think was > Accept. I recently changed it to "Munge From". The > dmarc_quarantine_moderation_action is set to yes, and > dmarc_none_moderation_action is No. When using the old settings gmail > listed messgaes as: SPF PASS, DKIM "Neutral with domain null", and > DMARC FAIL, but when a non-gmail user sent a message the DMARC was not > listed. > After changing to "Munge From" it still has a DMARC fail. What are the > differences that I should be seeing after changing the > dmarc_moderation_action? Here is an authentication header of a message > from a gmail user to a gmail user. > ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; > dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@gmail.com > header.b=dAmiQOEo; > spf=pass (google.com: domain of bockbrew-boun...@lists.bockbrew.com > designates 65.181.121.110 as permitted sender) > smtp.mailfrom=bockbrew-boun...@lists.bockbrew.com; > dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com > Thanks for any help,Kevin Nowaczyk > > ---------- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/luscheina%40yahoo.de -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe für Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] DMARC and gmail
I've recently been hearing that some subscribers to a club mailing list who use gmail are having all messages pushed to their spam folder. One user said it's only an issue when the sender is a gmail user as well. I'm running mailman 2.1.23 and had dmarc_moderation_action set to the default value..which I think was Accept. I recently changed it to "Munge From". The dmarc_quarantine_moderation_action is set to yes, and dmarc_none_moderation_action is No. When using the old settings gmail listed messgaes as: SPF PASS, DKIM "Neutral with domain null", and DMARC FAIL, but when a non-gmail user sent a message the DMARC was not listed. After changing to "Munge From" it still has a DMARC fail. What are the differences that I should be seeing after changing the dmarc_moderation_action? Here is an authentication header of a message from a gmail user to a gmail user. ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@gmail.com header.b=dAmiQOEo; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bockbrew-boun...@lists.bockbrew.com designates 65.181.121.110 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bockbrew-boun...@lists.bockbrew.com; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Thanks for any help,Kevin Nowaczyk ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 confusion
On 18-Jun-17 13:03, Mark Lindsay wrote: Thanks for taking the time to write & share your experience! I'll see if I can reproduce your success. readthedocs is somewhat off-putting since it asserts different Python version dependencies from the main site. I did understand that the core requires Python 3. What isn't clear is whether the Front end requires Python 2... I do have 2.7.3 installed. I didn't know about the mailman3-users list; next round will go there. I've perused the docs, and decided that I will have to get an instance running & do some experimentation to make sense of them. (e.g. the schemas for the REST API's json are sketchy - I haven't found how topics/topic filters are represented - and they're a key item for me. And the "dumps" are less helpful to a non-python person than raw json.) There's noBut it looks like it should be possible to replace what I did with the 2.1 cli utilities with not much code - and a lot of research. I can live without the archive for a while, but the main reason for converting my new project to MM3 is the new UI. It's not obvious that I can use a virtual environment when a webserver has to interact - and especially where the host runs SeLinux (extended access controls.) I use SQLite elsewhere; I planned to stick with it for this. It's the Python default, and the command interface for queries is reasonable. (And it has a -- sorry -- Perl API, which is the implementation language for the main application.) I do disagree with you on one point - it doesn't take 'a little detective work' to figure this out. It takes a LOT of detective work :-) I've invested several daze, and still don't have a process running. But I'll (probably) get there. Eventually. Thanks for the tips. > Hi Tlhackque, > > I went through a similar battle with installing Mailman 3 but emerged > victorious in the end. Here are some tips that might help you out. > > - There are several places where you can find Mailman 3 docs. It is > confusing. The most complete documentation I found is > here: https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/install.html > > - Don't use mailman bundler > > - Start with installing just Mailman 3 Core. Core is the part of > Mailman 3 that talks to your mail server and controls lists and > members of lists. Leave Postorius and Hyperkitty out of it until you > have Core running and you understand what it is doing. You can work > directly with Mailman 3 using `mailman shell` or the Mailman 3 Core > REST > API https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html > > - Mailman 3 Core indeed requires python 3 > > - Use Python's `virtualenv -p python3` to install Mailman 3 Core. It > looks like a lot of the problems you're having are because of > dependency/version hell. virtualenv will help with this. Successfully > dockerizing Mailman 3 Core will help even more! I read over on the > Mailman 3 Users list that an install process using Docker will soon be > the canonical way to install Mailman 3, which is great. > > - Use a SQL backend with Mailman 3 Core that allows you to inspect its > DB tables directly. This is so you can see what it is doing behind the > scenes when you interact with it via `mailman shell` or the REST API. > The DB schema is sane and easy to > navigate. > https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/database.html > > - I really like that I was able to install Mailman 3 Core right in a > non-privileged user's home directory. My server is just a stock > Ubuntu AWS EC2 instance. My Mailman 3 Core install is in > `/home/ubuntu/mailman` with a configuration file of > `/home/ubuntu/mailman/var/etc/mailman.cfg`. I am running Mailman 3 > Core in production from the regular `ubuntu` user's home directory in > a virtualenv. I do not know if this is the recommended way to do it, > but the documentation is especially sparse in this area, and it seems > to work! > > As best I can remember (it's been a couple months), here are the steps > I followed to get it up and running: > > 1. `cd ~` > 2. `git clone https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman.git` > <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman.git%60> > 3. `cd mailman` > 4. `virtualenv -p python3 venv` > 5. `source venv/bin/activate` > 6. `python setup.py develop` > 7. I am pretty sure this setup command will place a configuration file > into `~/mailman/var/etc/mailman.cfg`. Edit this > file. > https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/config/docs/config.html > 8. `mailman info` can confirm which configuration file is in use > 9. `mailman start` will start up Mailman 3 Core. This is what the > parent background process command looks
[Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 confusion
I took another look at installing Mailman 3, and ended up lost and
confused. I'm an experienced software person - but my Python knowledge
is minimal.
Fedora 25, python 3.5.3, pretty much out of the box.
Mailman version: 3.1.0 (The other bits and pieces are current - 1.1)
I tried to follow the documentation on
http://docs.list.org/en/latest/prodsetup.html,
http://mailman-3-installation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/production_install.html
claims that the backend requires Python 3.4, but the frontend 2.7. Not
clear if this is credible, but it's out there...
https://wiki.list.org/Mailman3 points to Mark Sapiro's experience on
https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience This
starts off with "For both installs I started with mailman-bundler."
But https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-bundler says "All of this
documentation is obsolete! Mailman Bundler is no longer recommended or
supported. " So...
I have yet to find a step-by-step 'bare OS to running MM3" document.
I've run MM2.1 lists for years, it wasn't this hard to get started.
Just install and edit one config file (plus the webserver.). I don't
want to learn a zillion other technologies just to get started - e.g.
But, I decided to see how far I could get. I tried this, based on pip
search mailman:
dnf install python3 python3-devel (gets 3.5.3)
pip3 install mailman postorius mailmanclient HyperKitty
mailman-hyperkitty KittyStore
All went well until KittyStore, which (0.9.3 is what pip found) died with:
Collecting storm (from KittyStore)
Downloading storm-0.20.tar.bz2 (213kB)
100% || 215kB 318kB/s
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
File "/tmp/pip-build-wzs03r_4/storm/setup.py", line 5, in
import ez_setup
File "/tmp/pip-build-wzs03r_4/storm/ez_setup.py", line 106
except pkg_resources.VersionConflict, e:
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Well, set that aside, and install the rest, which seems to work.
Try again with KittyStore, same failure. So maybe skip the archive for now.
Try 'mailman info', another syntax error.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/zope/configuration/xmlconfig.py", line
272, in endElementNS
self.context.end()
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/zope/configuration/config.py",
line 345, in end
self.stack.pop().finish()
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/zope/configuration/config.py",
line 452, in finish
args = toargs(context, *self.argdata)
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/zope/configuration/config.py",
line 794, in toargs
args[str(name)] = field.fromUnicode(s)
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/zope/configuration/fields.py",
line 73, in fromUnicode
value = self.context.resolve(name)
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/zope/configuration/config.py",
line 151, in resolve
mod = __import__(mname, *_import_chickens)
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/mailman/database/factory.py",
line 22, in
import alembic.command
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/alembic/command.py", line 3, in
from .script import ScriptDirectory
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/alembic/script/__init__.py",
line 1, in
from .base import ScriptDirectory, Script # noqa
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/alembic/script/base.py", line
2, in
from dateutil import tz
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/dateutil/tz.py", line 78
`self._name`,
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/mailman", line 9, in
load_entry_point('mailman==3.1.0', 'console_scripts', 'mailman')()
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line
97, in main
initialize(config_path)
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py",
line 184, in initialize
initialize_1(config_path)
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py",
line 101, in initialize_1
xmlconfig.string(zcml.decode('utf-8'))
File
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/zope/configuration/xmlconfig.py", line
513, in string
processxmlfile(f, context)
File
"/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/zope/configuration/xmlconfig.py", line
295, in processxmlfile
parser.parse(src)
File "/usr/lib64/python3.5/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 110, in parse
xmlreader.IncrementalParser.parse(self, source)
File "/usr/lib64/python3.5/xml/sax/xmlreader.py"
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator action requested for a new subscription?
Hello Richard Damon. On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 14:58:08 -0400, you wrote: > On 6/4/17 1:16 PM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: >> Hi >> >> For one of my (5) lists, I received today a request to approve a new >> subscriber. >> >> No problem, I thought - there might just be a setting which I have >> missed, because the list should work without such an approval. But: >> I did not see any difference to any of the other lists. >> >> All have the following options set on the first page of the list setup: >> >> "Send reminders" = No >> "Send welcome msg" = Yes >> "Send goodbye msg" = Yes >> "Admin immed notify" = Yes >> "Admin notify mchanges" = No >> "Respond to post requests" = Yes >> >> I can’t find any other setting which would require me to approve new >> members. But maybe there is one I missed? >> >> Mailman 2.1.23 on cPanel installation. >> >> Tahnk you for advice, Christian >> > See Privacy Options / Subscription Rules / subscribe_policy > > Sounds like it is set to "Require Approval" or "Confirm and Approve" > instead of "Confirm" Thank you for the quick help, that was it! Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Moderator action requested for a new subscription?
Hi For one of my (5) lists, I received today a request to approve a new subscriber. No problem, I thought - there might just be a setting which I have missed, because the list should work without such an approval. But: I did not see any difference to any of the other lists. All have the following options set on the first page of the list setup: "Send reminders" = No "Send welcome msg" = Yes "Send goodbye msg" = Yes "Admin immed notify" = Yes "Admin notify mchanges" = No "Respond to post requests" = Yes I can’t find any other setting which would require me to approve new members. But maybe there is one I missed? Mailman 2.1.23 on cPanel installation. Tahnk you for advice, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Message Held for approval -- too verbose
Hi. I have a mailing list, and it gets a lot of spam. The spammers have gotten very good at getting through my multiple layers of defense, spam assassin, grey listing, SPF, DKIM, DMARC. I hate the spammers. Of all the difficult things that systems administration handles; it's mail administration I hate the most. And I hate it because of spammers. scumbags. The problem is when the "This message has been held by a moderator for approval" messages come to me. My Gmail is labeling those as spam. They're labeling them as spam because Mailman is forwarding the entire message to my moderator address (hosted on Gmail). I sure can't find any sort of dialog in the archives about how to do this, and i haven't found an option to do what I want. What I want: I want the "there are 2 messages held for approval" type messages from Mailman not to contain the spam. Don't contain anything in the message at all, except the sender and maybe the subject. Instead of repeating all of the spammy content, is there any way to get Mailman to say something like "Hey there's a message, go check it out" The nature of the mailing list must allow for unknown people to contact the mailing list; sometimes somebody we never heard of has to send mail to the mailing list. So a hard-rule white-list won't work. So don't suggest that. ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] forwarding email to a mailman list
Hi Mark On 22 April 2017 at 14:04, Mark T wrote: > Hi can anyone tell me how do I use a forwarding > > Email address on a members only mailing list > > to my email list > > Only tried to do this and just keeps saying moderated > > Have added the email to the list of members > > And when I send a email to the list just keeps saying the same message > Maybe under "Restrictions > Filtering of senders > accept_these_nonmembers" and add the FROM email address to this list. Is what you are looking for ? /Christoffer ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] externally stored attachments and bin/arch
dear user support people, I am managing some lists where all attachments are scrubbed and stored externally (i.e the mailbox-format file contains only references). yesterday I appended an older archive from the previous hosting system to a current mailbox, run arch (with purge opt) and noticed that the attachments subdir in the pipermail dir was erased, so all external files were lost! Is this the normal behavior? is there a way to save the non-mailbox-stored files elsewhere to avoid loosing them? moreover, now that I looked into it, I got the impression that older attachments are also purged from the other lists too. Is it really so (possibly as side effect of the monthly pipermail re-indexing) ? thanks beforehand for any insight (and in general for your work) GK -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Correct host values in mm.cfg.py
Hi all I have started to install Mailman on a Mac OS X Sierra (10.12.4) machine, using Macports. I installed the necessary python27 component and mailman itself so far. But then, I am stuck... At the end of the mailman install process, I receive the message "Be sure to verify the email and URL host settings in the Mailman configuration file (they may have been guessed incorrectly during the configuration step): /opt/local/share/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py" The entries which the installation created automatically are: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mailman.fritz.box' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.fritz.box' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) Of course, mailman.fritz.box is not a valid address, it is just the name of the machine followed by the router name... what else should I put there? The machine does not have an IP number or an address which is accessible from the internet. A setting like "mailman.localhost" seems not to work. The web interface does not need to be available from "outside". I will need to use an outside SMTP- and POP3 server for mail exchange, since the machine is behind a router with a dynamic IP address assigned by the access provider according to their needs. The "Include /opt/local/etc/httpd/mailman.conf" statement is in the httpd.conf file. Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] list-admin on gmail ?
Den 31. mars 2017 22:41, skrev Mark Sapiro: On 03/31/2017 12:12 PM, Håkon Alstadheim via Mailman-Users wrote: Sure, daily summary should be fine, but on a bad day these non-deliverable admin-emails will add up, and postfix keeps trying to deliver them. So my logs show quite a few failed delivery attempts. Queue of undeliverable mail grows. Neat-freak in me gets very jumpy. Like I say elsewhere, slight mis-reporting on my part, it's my "smart-host" up-stream out-going smtp that is rejecting the mail w\ spam-attachments. The "smart host" doesn't seem very smart if it is rejecting spam mail with a 4xx (retryable) and not a 5xx (failure) status. Partly my fault I suppose, I've got various settings tuned to avoid losing mail during testing of my new mail-setup. This whole exercise started because I have switched from dSpam to rspamd for spam-prevention. I had a whole forest of postfix-instances to fine tune things so spam-filtering was done before alias-expansion and after spf/dkim checks. Lots of other tweaks. I did have a working web-based quarantine though. Presently doing major demolition and converting to rmilter/rspamd, without quarantine. This means mailman gets to do the quarantine duty for spam to my lists. I'm confident that the end-result will be less spaghetti-like, but I'm not there yet :-) . Also my rspamd is not fully trained and tested. Another thought is just turn off admin_immed_notify, but of course that will also turn off notices for mail that might not be spam. Done that, seems it did not "take" immediately. Spam flood has abated now, hopefully a few days to the next storm, by which time things will be in better shape. ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] list-admin on gmail ?
Den 31. mars 2017 19:52, skrev Mark Sapiro: On 03/31/2017 10:05 AM, Håkon Alstadheim via Mailman-Users wrote: So, I need to NOT send the attachment to get the "pending" mail to the list-admin. The only way to do that would be to modify the code in the hold_for_approval function in Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, Thanks for the tip, I actually might do that. At least I feel I can give attempts at changing the config a rest. but why do you need to not send the attachment? As I indicate in my reply at <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2017-March/082071.html>, if the message is spam, why is there any urgency in notifying the admin of the held message? Isn't the next daily summary soon enough? Sure, daily summary should be fine, but on a bad day these non-deliverable admin-emails will add up, and postfix keeps trying to deliver them. So my logs show quite a few failed delivery attempts. Queue of undeliverable mail grows. Neat-freak in me gets very jumpy. Like I say elsewhere, slight mis-reporting on my part, it's my "smart-host" up-stream out-going smtp that is rejecting the mail w\ spam-attachments. ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] list-admin on gmail ?
Den 31. mars 2017 17:13, skrev Scott Neader: On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Håkon Alstadheim via Mailman-Users mailto:mailman-users@python.org>> wrote: I have a list administrator who is on gmail. Forwarding held spam-messages to him does not work, since google rejects mail that has spam attached. Is it possible to send notification of pending actions *without* attaching the held message? Hi Håkon. This is an interesting question, and I'm interested in the answer. However, since your user happens to be using GMail, you DO have a good option to solve this: The approval emails will come from: FROM: listname-ow...@example.com <mailto:listname-ow...@example.com> The GMail user can simply create a "Filter" in GMail, that looks for messages "from:listname-ow...@example.com <mailto:from%3alistname-ow...@example.com>" and check the box that says "Never send it to Spam". Here's how: http://blog.simplelists.com/make-sure-real-emails-dont-get-sent-to-spam-gmail-2015/ Slightly wrong description in my original report, I was jumping to conclusions. I see now it is my "smarthost" upstream outbound relay that is complaining, and rejecting (not just mis-filing): Mar 31 09:05:51 garbo postfix-relay/smtp[27886]: 657FFC00036D: host smtp.altibox.no[109.247.116.10] said: 550 5.7.1 Rejected. This message has been marked as spam. client=148.252.117.52 job_id=441D780084 (in reply to end of DATA command) So, I need to NOT send the attachment to get the "pending" mail to the list-admin. ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] list-admin on gmail ?
I have a list administrator who is on gmail. Forwarding held spam-messages to him does not work, since google rejects mail that has spam attached. Is it possible to send notification of pending actions *without* attaching the held message? --- Håkon -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2 and 3
Hi all Every now and then, "Mailman 3" is mentioned on this list. As I understand it, MM 3 is completely different from the current MM 2 we all are using, and as Mark Sapiro wrote earlier today, questions regarding MM3 belong somewhere else. And I think I'll be using MM 2 as long as MM 2 is offered by our provider (via the cPanel installation). However: What is the state of Mailman 2 at the moment? I think it is still supported and developed. But will this change in the near or in the distant future? No, I am not afraid of learning something new - I am just wondering :) Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe für Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Weird response from a subscriber's mail server
Hi all I have a new problem with our mailing list (Mailman 2.1.23 on cPanel 62.0.17 where a subscriber's provider rejects messages from the list. Not the usual way, where the message simply bounces; here the original sender of the list message receives a notification as shown in the attachment. The receiving address is a subscriber of the list for a long time, but these messages started to show up just today. What can I do to solve the problem? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] an unrelated site's (cgi) access to mailman cmdline tools
dear mailman team, I have a cgi program running under a site that is NOT the one hosting the mailman's web interface (i.e. both mail.[domain] (mailman) and www.[domain] are apache's virtual domains in the same system, but under DIFFERENT user/group directives) The cgi program must generate userinfo lists taking the email parts live from the list_members stdout; when the various lists/*/config.pck are world readable it works fine; but when their permissions are reset/recreated, it breaks. Notice that I am not talking about the group permissions, but world's. I even tried setting an acl giving the cgi/httpd user read permissions but again they get lost. since there is no way to have the main site under mailman's group, is there a way to make mailman processes not ruin the world or acl permissions on the */config.pck? (I mean natively, without resorting to suid wrappers or sudo tricks) thanks beforehand for any answer giannis ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] disappearing subscriber
Hello Christina Endemann. On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 09:59:22 +, you wrote: > one of our subscribers was "somehow" taken off the mailing list. > > a) He was certainly on the list until a while ago (by chance I > had a list of subscriptions from two/three weeks ago) > > b) I did not unsubscribe him (to my knowledge), and also I don't > have an unsubscribe message He could have been unsubscribed automagically due to too many bounced messages to his address. > c) After subscribing that person again, he appeared in the > members list again, but the strange thing is that his name field is > filled in, which I certainly did not fill this time. Is this a cPanel installation? I had a mail (not list) user whose address was suspended (no incoming mail, no login) and afterwards deleted. After some time, the address was re-created and it showed up with the last status of that address (suspended) just after re-creation. This behaviour might also apply to lists, but it is just an assumption - not knowledge. > So it looks a bit as if that person had been deactivated / reactivated. > Can someone shed some light on this? We have to ensure that people > reliably get the messages. If he was taken off the list due to bounces - why should Mailman send a message to an address which does not accept mails? Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for better servicess for mailing list
Hi Amit We use digimouse.eu for mailing lists and web hosting. Support is very responsive, however I have no insight about the cost. I asked them to contact you if they are interested. Good luck, Chrisitan Hello Amit Bhatt. On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:45:36 +0530, you wrote: > Hello all, > > We are running two mailing lists with the host ultra.us for visually > impaired people in India. > Inicially ultra.us provided their support when we hired their services > but they are not ready to respond even the tickets we have raised for > the resolution now. Currently we are facing lot of problems and bugs > but they are not fixing them. > > I will appreciate if some other good and cost effective service > provider can be suggested to me, so I can change the host and mailing > list service provider for the smooth functioning of the mailing list. > > Thanks, > > Amit Bhatt > ---------- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/luscheina%40yahoo.de -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Message waiting for Moderator action
Hi all One of my users asked "how long does it take until you moderators either approve or discard my message?" (the message was held because the size exceeded the limit for the list), and he never saw the message in the list but also did not receive a notification about a rejection. I checked the open moderation tasks and found that no message was listed there. A quick question to the others doing some moderation if I am away showed that the message was discarded few hours after it has been sent. The message sent to the user says: "Entweder wird Ihre E-Mail in Kürze freigegeben und über die Liste verteilt, oder Sie erhalten eine Mitteilung über eine Ablehnung durch den Moderator." which can be understood in two ways: (a) you receive a message _from the moderator_ about his approval or discaring decision, or, (b) you receive a message about the moderator's approval or discaring decision (from the list software). What is the standard procedure? I did not find a setting for this. Using Mailman 2.1.23 on cPanel 60.0.28 -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] scrubbed attachments naming pattern: is it configurable?
dear MM-user list managers, I have enabled attachment scrubbing, so mail footers look like this: -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2016_SON_COSMO-DE.tar.gz Type: application/x-gzip Size: 4535 bytes Desc: 2016_SON_COSMO-DE.tar.gz URL: <http://[mydomain].org/pipermail/wg5/attachments /20170102/1066e69c/attachment-0002.bin> Ok, I understand that mailman cannot have psychic abilities and rename a application/x-gzip MIME blob to the full tar.gz or doc.gz or whatever, but what about the alien-looking "attachment-.bin" part? Can optionally the Name part be used? even with the inevitable(?) auto-increment indexing, it still will be more user friendly. Then, even the user-confusing *.bin part could be avoided, since the name does indicate the encoding and it would be clearer for the downloaders? thanks beforehand for any advice on parameterizing this (if it can be configured at all) have a fine 2017 and many thanks for the work you put in MM ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Hosting
Hi to East Africa I do not have any information about their "reputation" with Verizon and AT&T, but our organization uses digimouse.eu for mail, mailing lists and web. You may want to mention my name when contacting them (no, I do not get any compensation for my "advertising"). Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe für Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org > Odhiambo Washington <mailto:odhia...@gmail.com> > 21. Dezember 2016 um 16:46 > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a provider who hosts Mailman and who has a good > reputation with American ISPs - Verizon and ATT, etc? These providers > somehow have notoriety blocking mailing list emails. I'm currently hosting > with a provider based in Oz, but having some difficulties when it comes to > Verizon and ATT. AOL, Gmail, Hotmail, Outlook, Yahoo etc are all accepting > mails, but majority of the subscribers are with Verizon/ATT and that has > really affected one list that I have so I need to change. > > > Please recommend one. > ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman3: HTTP-500, create_http_method_map(resource, None, None) ?
Hello List, I was following the [mailman-bundler](https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-bundler/) installation instructions. After starting Django for the first time (before changes to the Postfix configuration and without any pre-existing lists) I received an HTTP-500 from http://127.0.0.1:8000/mailman3. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.4/wsgiref/handlers.py", line 137, in run self.result = application(self.environ, self.start_response) File "/opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/mailman/database/transaction.py", line 57, in wrapper rtn = function(*args, **kws) File "/opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py", line 65, in __call__ environ, start_response) File "/opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/falcon/api.py", line 180, in __call__ responder, params, resource = self._get_responder(req) File "/opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py", line 135, in _get_responder method_map = create_http_method_map(resource, None, None) TypeError: create_http_method_map() takes 1 positional argument but 3 were given ERROR Internal Server Error: /mailman3/ To make it work I changed In file venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py: method_map = create_http_method_map(resource, None, None) into method_map = create_http_method_map(resource) Is this a bug or should I have created an initial list from the command line (similar to Mailman 2) before accessing this page? Simon ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Regular subscriber receiving both regular and digest delivery
Hello Mark Sapiro. On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 09:24:52 -0800, you wrote: > The digest is being sent to a different list member. To help Brian solve his problem: Some mailboxes have more than one single valid address. For example, n...@domain.com and n...@subdomain.domain.com are two different addresses for Mailman, but may be the very same mailbox. Or n...@domain1.com and n...@domain2.com might also end up in the same mailbox Chrisitan -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Time needed to deliver list messages
Hi all Our lists run on a cPanel installation of Mailman (cPanel version 60.0.25, Mailman version 2.1.23). Messages sent to the list take some long time to be delivered to the subscribers - in the best case it is about 10 minutes, but it can take up to over 40 minutes. We asked our provider about it, and he tried to finetune some settings on the server - so far without success. He said he also contacted cPanel support and their response was "this is normal - there is nothing they can do about it", he said. My question to all who run Mailman on cPanel: Is it true? Are you also experiencing delivery delays? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] list_members when listname has a period
Am 21.11.2016 um 08:37 schrieb Mark Dale: > Hi, > > If a list's name has a period in it, the "bin/list_members" doesn't seem > to like it. For example: > > $PATH/bin/list_members -f acme_widgets (works fine) > > $PATH/bin/list_members -f acme.widgets (gets ignored) > > I've tried escaping the period, wrapping the name in quotes, and I'm not > seeing anything in the bin file - list_members - as an obvious place to > hack. > > Any clues from anyone would be greatly appreciated. > Works for me. Which version of mailman are you using? Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mail delivery gets congested
Hi all We have Mailman 2.1.21 running on a cPanel (58.0.34) installation. Our biggest "regular" list has something over 200 subscribers. On September 2, I asked here about a problem that subsciber's email addresses were displayed in the message headers, and you advised me to change the delivery method of Mailman to "Full Personalization". Having one this, it seems that Mailman is now having problems to send out the messages within a useful time frame. The porvider told us that SMTP is currently set to accept only 30 messages per individual connection. So with 200 subscribers it would take 7 connections to get out one single message. I do not know about the time between two connections, but I saw that it takes at least 20 minutes and in several cases has taken more than one out until the messages are out. The provider said that he can increase the numnber of messages per connection but thinks that this is also a security issue (spam) and the amount can only be set server-wide (no possibility to make an exception rule for mailing lists). What could I do from my side to increase delivery speed? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix + mailman + mailboxes on the same domain and server
> Am 07.11.2016 um 01:06 schrieb Christian :
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to get the mailing list to work with postfix and I read a lot
> of information about the difficult usage of it.
>
> -> It should be possible for a mailbox user 'u...@domain.tld' to send at
> the mailing list 'l...@domain.tld'.
>
> The only one I found in the archives that addresses my problem:
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2012-February/072967.html
>
> Actually I always get the same error message:
> /var/log/mail.log
> *
> Nov 6 15:50:42 mail postfix/smtpd[757]: connect from IP
> Nov 6 15:50:43 mail postfix/smtpd[757]: Anonymous TLS connection
> established from IP: TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256
> (128/128 bits)
> Nov 6 15:50:43 mail postfix/smtpd[757]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from IP:
> 550 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
> virtual mailbox table; from= to=
> proto=ESMTP helo=<[local-IP]>
> Nov 6 15:50:48 mail postfix/smtpd[757]: disconnect from IP
> *
>
> I hope that my posted configs help you to address the issure.
Postfix doesn’t know about the maiman users so imho your main.cf is missing
this here:
alias_maps = hash:/private/var/mailman/data/aliases
as well as this:
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/private/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
imho the postfix-to-mailman.py script is outdated and not needed anymore.
Therefore you don’t need to modify master.cf.
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html
cheers
Matthias
>
> The usual comments has been removed.
>
>
> /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py
> *****
> from Defaults import *
> MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman'
> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/cgi-bin/mailman/'
> IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/mailman/'
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'domain.tld'
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.domain.tld'
> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
> DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de'
> USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER= 0 # Still used?
> DEFAULT_SEND_REMINDERS = 0
> MTA = None # So that mailman skips aliases generation
> DEB_LISTMASTER = 'postmas...@domain.tld'
> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['domain.tld']
> POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual_to_transport'
> *
>
> root@mail:/var/lib/mailman/data# ls -l
> insgesamt 64
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1843 Nov 6 15:07 aliases
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 12288 Nov 6 15:07 aliases.db
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root list10 Okt 20 11:48 last_mailman_version
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root list 14100 Sep 15 08:04 sitelist.cfg
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1606 Nov 6 15:07 transport-mailman
> -rw-r--r-- 1 list list 12288 Nov 6 15:07 transport-mailman.db
> -rw-rw 1 root list 1698 Nov 6 15:07 virtual-mailman
> -rwxr-x--- 1 root list 149 Nov 6 15:07 virtual_to_transport
>
> /var/lib/mailman/data/transport-mailman
> *************
> mailman-l...@domain.tld mailman:
>
> mail...@domain.tld mailman:
> mailman-ad...@domain.tld mailman:
> mailman-boun...@domain.tld mailman:
> mailman-conf...@domain.tld mailman:
> mailman-j...@domain.tld mailman:
> mailman-le...@domain.tld mailman:
> mailman-ow...@domain.tld mailman:
> mailman-requ...@domain.tld mailman:
> mailman-subscr...@domain.tldmailman:
> mailman-unsubscr...@domain.tld mailman:
>
> l...@domain.tld mailman:
> list-ad...@domain.tldmailman:
> list-boun...@domain.tld mailman:
> list-conf...@domain.tld mailman:
> list-j...@domain.tldmailman:
> list-le...@domain.tldmailman:
> list-ow...@domain.tldmailman:
> list-requ...@domain.tld mailman:
> list-subscr...@domain.tldmailman:
> list-unsubscr...@domain.tld mailman:
> *
>
> /etc/postfix/master.cf
> *
> mailman unix - n n - - pipe
> flags=FR user=list
> argv=/var/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py ${nexthop} ${user}
> *
>
> /etc/postfix/main.cf
> *
> smtpd_banner = $myhostname
> biff = no
> append_dot_mydomain = no
> readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix
> html_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix/html
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] cannot subscribe from outside using web interface
> Am 27.10.2016 um 20:23 schrieb Camelia Botez : > > Our mailman server is on DMZ and a couple of month ago was changed to work > https. > From inside LAN we can access mailman.domain/mailman/listinfo/test and > subscribe using browser interface. > From outside LAN we get : > The site cannot be reachedmailman.org refused to connect. > > Any idea ? > dns firewall else check the logs ;-) Matthias signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating Mailman to New Server (Same Domain)
> Am 24.10.2016 um 22:41 schrieb Jewel Brueggeman-Makda > : > > Would it be best to copy the entire mailman directory to the new server or > just the lists and archives? > Command issued on new server to copy data from old. > rsync -avr root@serverip:/usr/local/mailman /usr/local/mailman what worked for me, was copying/syncing all mailman directories to the new volume and run an update on mailman by downloading the last version and recompile it with the same settings of config as before. Then I just checked the settings file. Without that mailman wouldn’t start. cheers Matthias signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Start qrunner on ElCapitan (MacOS X Server)
Mark, thanks. > Am 19.10.2016 um 23:55 schrieb Mark Sapiro : > > On 10/19/2016 02:51 AM, Matthias Schmidt wrote: >> >> Now I get in the system log: >> com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (org.mailman): Service only ran for 1 seconds. >> Pushing respawn out by 9 seconds. >> >> and after that I get: >> The master qrunner lock could not be acquired because it appears as if >> another >> master qrunner is already running. >> in mailman’s error log > > > Because the original master IS still running. The PID in the lockfile > exists. The problem is 'mailmanctl start' forks a watcher process. The > original mailmanctl exits so launchd thinks it only ran for 1 second, > but it’s child and all the qrunners are still running. > > >> after unloading the plist and running mailmanctl -s start again, I get the >> same error as output. >> When I delete these 2 lock files and run mailmanctl start as sudo all is >> fine. > > > All is not fine. You have 2 Mailman instances running. See > <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030715>. > > I don't know how to set up plist's for launchd. There may be some sort > of daemon option to account for processes that fork a daemon and then exit. that was the right hint, adding sleep 1 to my script did the trick :-) thank you :-) Matthias > > See <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030523> and posts linked therefrom, in > particular > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg56923.html>. > This is for 10.6, and I don't know if 10.11 is different in this respect > or not. I think there is more recent discussion in this list's archives > which you may find by searching at > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/>. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Recipient disabled due to bounces
Good morning I just gor a message from Mailman that a list subscription has been disabled because of too many bounces. This is quite okay, I think - but when I look at the Mailman management page, the user is still there as a subscribe. The only difference is the check mark and a "B" in the area "no message (reason)". Of course, he does not receive any more messages, and the "B" probably means because messages have bounced. But why isn't he unsubscribed completely? Thank you for clarifying. Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Start qrunner on ElCapitan (MacOS X Server)
Mark,
> Am 19.10.2016 um 13:04 schrieb Mark Sapiro :
>
> On 10/18/2016 07:39 AM, Matthias Schmidt via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>
>> the -s option should fix that problem ;-)
>
>
> If it can determine that the lock is stale.
>
>
>> but if mailman is started as local then -s doesn’t remove a stray pid file.
>
>
> What do you mean by “if mailman is started as local"?
oh I had that before, it was starting as localhost, that was at least the
message.
Now I get in the system log:
com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (org.mailman): Service only ran for 1 seconds. Pushing
respawn out by 9 seconds.
and after that I get:
The master qrunner lock could not be acquired because it appears as if another
master qrunner is already running.
in mailman’s error log
after unloading the plist and running mailmanctl -s start again, I get the same
error as output.
When I delete these 2 lock files and run mailmanctl start as sudo all is fine.
So starting mailman manually is not a problem.
I just don’t get it started via a plist with launchd.
I also created a script like this and pointed the plist to the script:
#!/bin/sh
function fstartup()
{
/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start
}
function fshutdown()
{
/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop
tail -f /dev/null &
wait $!
}
trap fshutdown SIGTERM
trap fshutdown SIGKILL
fstartup;
this seams to do nothing at all …at least there’s nothing in the logs.
cheers
Matthias
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Start qrunner on ElCapitan (MacOS X Server)
> Am 18.10.2016 um 22:50 schrieb mailman-admin : > > Am 18.10.2016 um 10:57 schrieb Matthias Schmidt via Mailman-Users: >> Hello, >> I’m trying to start mailman on startup with ElCapitan. >> >> I tried a plist in LaunchDaemons - that was working in the past with the >> command: >> /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start >> >> this produces now the error: >> Service only ran for 2 seconds. Pushing respawn out by 8 seconds >> >> the error log says: >> The master qrunner lock could not be acquired because it appears as if >> another >> master qrunner is already running >> >> So it starts, creates a lock as localhost … and then it tries to start again. >> >> than I created a startup script as described here: >> https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Chapters/StartupItems.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/1172i-SW9-CJBBHDII >> >> and it does … nothing >> >> the only thing which works currently is starting it manually with sudo >> and this is kind of inconvenient >> >> I installed mailman manually without using macports or something like that. >> >> I hope someone on the list can share some insight here. >> > > Do you shutdown mailman cleanly? mailman was not running before startup and for the test I made sure that there are no pid files present > If not, you leave a pid file behind, which will prevent mailman from > starting. the -s option should fix that problem ;-) but if mailman is started as local then -s doesn’t remove a stray pid file. cheers Matthias signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Start qrunner on ElCapitan (MacOS X Server)
Am 18.10.2016 um 10:57 schrieb Matthias Schmidt via Mailman-Users: > Hello, > I’m trying to start mailman on startup with ElCapitan. > > I tried a plist in LaunchDaemons - that was working in the past with the > command: > /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start > > this produces now the error: > Service only ran for 2 seconds. Pushing respawn out by 8 seconds > > the error log says: > The master qrunner lock could not be acquired because it appears as if another > master qrunner is already running > > So it starts, creates a lock as localhost … and then it tries to start again. > > than I created a startup script as described here: > https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Chapters/StartupItems.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/1172i-SW9-CJBBHDII > > and it does … nothing > > the only thing which works currently is starting it manually with sudo > and this is kind of inconvenient > > I installed mailman manually without using macports or something like that. > > I hope someone on the list can share some insight here. > Do you shutdown mailman cleanly? If not, you leave a pid file behind, which will prevent mailman from starting. Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Start qrunner on ElCapitan (MacOS X Server)
Hello, I’m trying to start mailman on startup with ElCapitan. I tried a plist in LaunchDaemons - that was working in the past with the command: /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start this produces now the error: Service only ran for 2 seconds. Pushing respawn out by 8 seconds the error log says: The master qrunner lock could not be acquired because it appears as if another master qrunner is already running So it starts, creates a lock as localhost … and then it tries to start again. than I created a startup script as described here: https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Chapters/StartupItems.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/1172i-SW9-CJBBHDII and it does … nothing the only thing which works currently is starting it manually with sudo and this is kind of inconvenient I installed mailman manually without using macports or something like that. I hope someone on the list can share some insight here. thanks Matthias signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] cannot send mails to yahoo, hotmail and gmail
> Am 19.09.2016 um 00:39 schrieb Timothy Jasionowski : > > You may also want to make sure that you're configured SPF for your domain... > I know that Google can be suspicious of new or small domains unless SPF (or > even DKIM) is implemented. > > SPF is easy to implement. You just need to put a TXT entry into DNS. as others said before, your MTA needs to be configured correctly. Besides SPF and DMARK your server has to have a reverse pointer, which resolves properly. In mailman either set the reply-to to the original sender or the FROM to the list itself. If that all is given and you’re not blacklisted, contact the postmasters via their help page. If all is OK, they will white-list your server. cheers Matthias > > Timothy > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 18, 2016, at 17:19, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >>> On 09/17/2016 11:05 PM, Eko Budiharto wrote: >>> dear all, >>> I have a list using mailman. It cannot send mails to yahoo, hotmail and >>> gmail. I check all setting in the mailman, but I still cannot find the >>> problem yet. Please help me if someone who ever experience like this. >> >> >> It's hard to tell without more information such as bounce messages or >> log messages, but this could be a DMARC issue. See >> <https://wiki.list.org/x/17891458> and <https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC>. >> >> It is also possible your server is on one or more blacklists. Check at, >> e.g., <http://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx> >> >> Also see <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030690>. >> >> -- >> Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, >> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan >> -- >> Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >> Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 >> Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >> Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >> Unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/timothy.d%40jasionow.ski > ------ > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/beta%40admilon.net signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Update mailman MacServer5
Timothy,
thanks for the tip, but I do not intend to install MacPorts as I had different
experiences with it in the past.
Besides that, mailman is now running fine now.
The only problem left is that the include of the cgi link of the mailman config
is not working with the current Apache setup.
I guess it has something to do with the new way Apple handles every website
hosted on the box through a proxy and I still need to find out how that works -
will do so tomorrow ;-)
If you don’t mind, you could post your config for your website hosting your
list.
thanks
Matthias
> Am 05.09.2016 um 02:52 schrieb Timothy Jasionowski :
>
> I think I may have sent this directly, but...
>
> Mattias,
>
> I had good luck installing mailman on El Capitan/Server 5 using MacPorts, as
> it manages all the dependencies and integrates all the chron jobs and startup
> stuff, but due to some legacy issues with the MacPorts configuration file,
> the build appends the .cgi prefix in the URI construction. It, otherwise,
> works fine. It avoided a lot of the issues you had in configuring it and,
> more importantly, maintaining it.
>
> If you want to get rid of the extension, download macports, refresh the build
> index, then edit the macports mailman build file, replacing:
>
> configure.args --with-cgi-ext=.cgi \
> --with-cgi-gid=${cgigroup} \
>
> with
>
> configure.args --with-cgi-gid=${cgigroup} \
>
> Thanks again to Marius Schamschula for that tip, as it drove me crazy.
>
> Timothy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 11:53, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/04/2016 01:56 AM, Matthias Schmidt via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>> sorry for being such a pain today _/\_
>>>
>>> now the webinterface is not coming up.
>>> It looks like the cgi is not executed instead a 404 error is generated
>>>
>>> my mailman.conf for apache looks like that (it’s basically the same as on
>>> 10.6, I just changed the path):
>>>
>>> ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/"
>>
>>
>> This is OK, but ...
>>
>>
>>> Alias /pipermail/ "/var/mailman/archives/public/"
>>>
>>> Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews Indexes
>>> AllowOverride None
>>> Order allow,deny
>>> Allow from all
>>>
>>>
>>> it is included with http.conf
>>>
>>> for the site I have a redirect:
>>> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI} ^liste\.dinj\.de.$
>>> RewriteRule ^/(.*) https://%{SERVER_NAME}/mailman/listinfo/dinj
>>> [L,R=permanent]
>>> and that stuff was working on 10.6
>>
>>
>> And all that does is redirect 'http(s)://liste.dinj.de/' to
>> 'https://%{SERVER_NAME}/mailman/listinfo/dinj'
>>
>>
>>> the logs say this:
>>> [Sun Sep 04 17:41:42.375938 2016] [:debug] [pid 95364]
>>> mod_hfs_apple2.c(397): [client 127.0.0.1:59199] mod_hfs_apple: Allowing
>>> access with matching directory. filename = /WebFolder/dinj/mailman
>>> [Sun Sep 04 17:41:42.375977 2016] [core:info] [pid 95364] [client
>>> 127.0.0.1:59199] AH00128: File does not exist:
>>> /WebFolder/dinj/mailman/listinfo/dinj
>>
>>
>> So why is Apache looking for /WebFolder/dinj/mailman/listinfo/dinj? Is
>> /WebFolder/dinj the DocumentRoot?
>>
>> Does this happen with any mailman URL? If you go to
>> 'https://liste.dinj.de/mailman/admin/dinj' do you get a similar 404 or
>> only if you go to' https://liste.dinj.de/'.
>>
>> Somehow your 'ScriptAlias /mailman/' directive is not effective. In a
>> more or less normal apache configuration it is not sufficient to put
>> mailman.conf in /etc/apache2/conf.d/, you must also have a symlink to it
>> in /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/. I have no idea if this applies to Mac OX
>> X Server, but you need to look at your Include and IncludeOptional
>> directives in the main apache2.conf or whatever it's called to ensure
>> that mailman.conf is directly or indirectly included.
>>
>>
>>> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ has permissions set to 775
>>
>>
>> It should be 2775 (drwxrwsr-w) but the important thing is the files
>> therein should be 2755 (-rwxr-sr-x).
>>
>> --
>> Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
>> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
>>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Update mailman MacServer5
sorry for being such a pain today _/\_
now the webinterface is not coming up.
It looks like the cgi is not executed instead a 404 error is generated
my mailman.conf for apache looks like that (it’s basically the same as on 10.6,
I just changed the path):
ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/"
Alias /pipermail/ "/var/mailman/archives/public/"
Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews Indexes
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
it is included with http.conf
for the site I have a redirect:
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI} ^liste\.dinj\.de.$
RewriteRule ^/(.*) https://%{SERVER_NAME}/mailman/listinfo/dinj [L,R=permanent]
and that stuff was working on 10.6
the logs say this:
[Sun Sep 04 17:41:42.375938 2016] [:debug] [pid 95364] mod_hfs_apple2.c(397):
[client 127.0.0.1:59199] mod_hfs_apple: Allowing access with matching
directory. filename = /WebFolder/dinj/mailman
[Sun Sep 04 17:41:42.375977 2016] [core:info] [pid 95364] [client
127.0.0.1:59199] AH00128: File does not exist:
/WebFolder/dinj/mailman/listinfo/dinj
/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ has permissions set to 775
thanks again
Matthias
> Am 04.09.2016 um 14:06 schrieb Mark Sapiro :
>
> On 09/03/2016 09:53 PM, Matthias Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> now I’m stuck here:
>> local[74919]: fatal: execvp /usr/share/mailman/mail/mailman: No such file or
>> directory
>>
>> local is owned by postfix so far I found out.
>> What I can’t find is where this line is to be able to correct it (Spotlight
>> also finds nothing)
>
>
> It's in your Postfix aliases for Mailman.
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Update mailman MacServer5
Hello, now I’m stuck here: local[74919]: fatal: execvp /usr/share/mailman/mail/mailman: No such file or directory local is owned by postfix so far I found out. What I can’t find is where this line is to be able to correct it (Spotlight also finds nothing) thanks Matthias > Am 04.09.2016 um 01:10 schrieb Mark Sapiro : > > On 09/03/2016 08:48 AM, Matthias Schmidt via Mailman-Users wrote: >> >> I’ve been updating a MacOS10.6 Server to Server 5 (elCapitan). >> Mailman is not shipped anymore with the current version. >> So I downloaded 2.1.23, installed the lat version of phyton as well as >> dnsphyton. >> Then I copied the old mailman folders over to /usr/local/mailman and >> /var/mailman >> Then I ran configure and the installation went through. >> but when I try to start mailman I get this error: >> File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 106, in >>from Mailman import mm_cfg >> ImportError: No module named Mailman > > > It would appear that there is some confusion, probably due to the > '--prefix' and '--with-var-prefix' you configured with not being > correct. It looks like they should be --prefix=/usr/local/mailman > --with-var-prefix=/var/mailman. > > What's in /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py for 'prefix =' and is there a > Mailman directory and a Mailman/__init__.py file in that directory? > > -- > Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/beta%40admilon.net signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Update mailman MacServer5
Mark, thanks. > Am 04.09.2016 um 01:10 schrieb Mark Sapiro : > > On 09/03/2016 08:48 AM, Matthias Schmidt via Mailman-Users wrote: >> >> I’ve been updating a MacOS10.6 Server to Server 5 (elCapitan). >> Mailman is not shipped anymore with the current version. >> So I downloaded 2.1.23, installed the lat version of phyton as well as >> dnsphyton. >> Then I copied the old mailman folders over to /usr/local/mailman and >> /var/mailman >> Then I ran configure and the installation went through. >> but when I try to start mailman I get this error: >> File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 106, in >>from Mailman import mm_cfg >> ImportError: No module named Mailman > > > It would appear that there is some confusion, probably due to the > '--prefix' and '--with-var-prefix' you configured with not being > correct. It looks like they should be --prefix=/usr/local/mailman > —with-var-prefix=/var/mailman. I ran configure again like this: mailman-2.1.23/configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/mailman > > What’s in /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py for 'prefix =' and is there a ah: the old path to the 10.6 installation prefix = ‘/usr/share/mailman' and it should be prefix:’/usr/local/mailman’ > Mailman directory and a Mailman/__init__.py file in that directory? yes seams mailman at least starts after I corrected the prefix, but it’s not yet working. I guess I have to do some more digging into the postfix setup ;-) thanks again Matthias > > -- > Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/beta%40admilon.net signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Update mailman MacServer5
Hello, I’ve been updating a MacOS10.6 Server to Server 5 (elCapitan). Mailman is not shipped anymore with the current version. So I downloaded 2.1.23, installed the lat version of phyton as well as dnsphyton. Then I copied the old mailman folders over to /usr/local/mailman and /var/mailman Then I ran configure and the installation went through. but when I try to start mailman I get this error: File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 106, in from Mailman import mm_cfg ImportError: No module named Mailman All what I found on google is more about Linux installations … So I guess I’m missing something here. Thanks for help Matthias signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] List is displaying subscriber in header
Hi all A list (Mailman 2.1.21 on cPanel installation) is behaving strangely. In the header of a list message, there appears an "Envelope-To:" header line, which contains 200 (of the approximately 1000) subscribers. I did not find any setting which could be wront, and I think this behaviour is new to that list. But as far as I remember, I did not change anything recently. What is wrong here? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Clear list except 10 emails
Hello. I need help to remove all users from a list , except 10 emails . remove_members -a LIST removes all and could not find an alternative. Suggestions ? Thank you Daniel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Yahoo policy on list messages
I have received several bounce notices for subscribers of my list with the following contents: Action: failed Final-Recipient:rfc822;ek...@yahoo.com Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; mta7.am0.yahoodns.net Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons. Seehttps://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN7253.html Action: failed Final-Recipient:rfc822;m...@x-.info Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; mxcluster1.one.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 The messages violates the DMARC policy of yahoo.com (eb9fcd83-501a-11e6-b513-b82a72d854f0) Action: failed Final-Recipient:rfc822;mxxx...@yahoo.de Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons. Seehttps://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN7253.html I asked my provider for help about this, and he wrote back: "from what I can see from the text files you sent me, it's a matter of the mailing list configuration. The sender ( From: ) needs to be set as the mailing list address and not as the original sender (eg, ek...@yahoo.com) Read here: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN7253.html - but all mailing lists I know usually have the original sender's name in the From-field... So what am I doing wrong here? My list runs on the cPanel 56.0.28 version of Mailman 2.1.20 Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe für Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Chinese characters spam filter?
Thanks for the reply. I was going off some examples I found, but should have known better than to use a \* in the regexp. This is likely what is causing the filters to fail. The encoding example was something I was trying based off another thread I found, but I've deleted this rule. I assume the text box that is asking to input a "Spam Filter Regexp" will attempt to match all text in the header. Since all headers include the text "Subject:" and that is the area of the header that I want to filter, this is why "^Subject:" is specified. If I eliminate the literal asterisk and just change this to an asterisk, i.e.: "^Subject:*" that should take care of the space, right? Sometimes the mails come in with mixed Chinese and English characters, so if an English character is first in the subject and my filter specifies that it must be a space followed by a Chinese character, then the filter would fail to catch this...I think what is needed is this: ^Subject:*[list of all Chinese characters here] I don't understand the use of an equals sign in the regexp. Isn't this implied? Thanks, -Greg -Original Message- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+greg.lindsay=microsoft@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 8:56 AM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Chinese characters spam filter? On 7/5/16 8:19 PM, Greg Lindsay via Mailman-Users wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Mailman v 2.1.20 & have been trying to filter out Chinese spam > messages with no luck. A few typical subjects are below: > > Subject: 为什么总让客户不满意，如何才能提升业绩 > Subject: 没1有1业1绩，怎1么1办？ > Subject: 带问题来，带方案走；如何缩短生产周期 > > Under Privacy options/Spam filters I have created header filters such as the > three below. These aren't working. I was under the impression that [abcd] > will discard all mail with a, b, c, or d in the subject line. I've tried > including a hundred characters and a single character, but neither works. > > ^Subject:\*[如何解决企业关务管理风险跨境电商国家政策综解读及创新模式非财务人员如何进行财务管理掌握最规范的薪酬设计方法企业相关法 > 律风险控制及用工管理如何加强企业反舞弊及内审如何把准经销商的赢利模式？如何评估供应商及优化采购运作流程如何掌握车间管理的精髓] > > ^Subject:\?utf-8\?B\?[56] > > ^Subject:\*[发杜营全及正了先] > > What am I doing wrong here? Is there something about the character encoding > that prevents this filter from working? There are a couple of things here. Your 3 regexps above have no space after Subject:. That notwithstanding, none of them will match what you're trying to match. The second appears to be an attempt to match an RFC2047 encoded word, but the encoded word would begin '=?utf-8?B?...' and your regexp is missing the '='. I'm not sure what the first and third are doing with the literal asterisk. However, this is not the real problem. The real issue is that the headers matched by the header_filter_rules regexps have been RFC2047 decoded and then encoded in Mailman's character set for the list's preferred language. If the list's preferred language is not one whose character set is utf-8 or some Chinese character set, this probably results in Subject: ??... -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/greg.lindsay%40microsoft.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Chinese characters spam filter?
Hi, I am running Mailman v 2.1.20 & have been trying to filter out Chinese spam messages with no luck. A few typical subjects are below: Subject: 为什么总让客户不满意，如何才能提升业绩 Subject: 没1有1业1绩，怎1么1办？ Subject: 带问题来，带方案走；如何缩短生产周期 Under Privacy options/Spam filters I have created header filters such as the three below. These aren't working. I was under the impression that [abcd] will discard all mail with a, b, c, or d in the subject line. I've tried including a hundred characters and a single character, but neither works. ^Subject:\*[如何解决企业关务管理风险跨境电商国家政策综解读及创新模式非财务人员如何进行财务管理掌握最规范的薪酬设计方法企业相关法律风险控制及用工管理如何加强企业反舞弊及内审如何把准经销商的赢利模式？如何评估供应商及优化采购运作流程如何掌握车间管理的精髓] ^Subject:\?utf-8\?B\?[56] ^Subject:\*[发杜营全及正了先] What am I doing wrong here? Is there something about the character encoding that prevents this filter from working? Thanks, -Greg ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is not Listserv - was: Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse
I agree with Mark on the abuse of the term (as well as the quality of product :-)) I correct this EVERYTIME I meet this abuse. earned me a reputation of a pedant, but the abuse has fallen off to nil. A. On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 06/17/2016 10:40 AM, Jim Dory wrote: > > I was using the term List-serv as a generic term meaning a mailing list > > people subscribe to in order to receive messages sent by members via > > email. > > > I understand that and that is exactly the usage I object to. I > understand I'm tilting at windmills and that I've long since lost this > battle, and I'm in no way trying to protect Eric Thomas' trademark, but > it annoys me to see Mailman conflated with Listserv because Listserv is > a proprietary competing product and I think Mailman and its community > are a better alternative. > > -- > Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > ------ > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/doar%40yahoo.com > ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Getting Yahoo to accept Mailman list messages
Hi all I got an error message below from Yahoo: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: xx...@yahoo.com host mta7.am0.yahoodns.net [63.250.192.46] SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons. See https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN7253.html xx...@yahoo.com host mta7.am0.yahoodns.net [63.250.192.46] SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons. See https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN7253.html I asked the provider and here is his answer (which does not help me too much since I have not sufficient knowledge about these techniques): Hi Christian, The messages were rejected because they weren't properly authenticated. By default, all outgoing messages from .ch are DKIM and SPF authenticated. Not sure about the mailing list messages, though. Perhaps the Mailman needs authentication on its own. This is a cPanel (56.0.21) installation of Mailman 2.1.20. I have looked into the list settings but did not find anything about DKIM or SPF, and I also did not really understand the explanations in <https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DKIM>. And also, I did not find any settings for DKIM or SPF in the list administration pages. Any ideas are most welcome! Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Syntax question using the Web Interface with PHP
I'm trying to use the Web Interface from a PHP page and I have a problem when trying to add a person to a list. I can get it to work fine if I just add an email address to the list, however I can't figure out the syntax needed to also include their real name. Here's what I have that works so far: http://lists..com/admin.cgi/members-.com/members/add?subscribe_or_invite=0&send_welcome_msg_to_this_batch=0¬ification_to_list_owner=0&adminpw=&subscribees_upload=";; $content=file_get_contents($sub_url . $email ); echo $content;?> The page at https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Additional%20web%20administration%20tools doesn't explain well enough how to use the _realname parameter to get the person's name included in the transaction. Can anyone please show me how to change the above coding to do this? Thanks! ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] What is the difference between welcome.msg and subscribeack.txt
I always thought that the difference was that the acknowledge was sent when a new user requested to subscribe (to acknowledge the request and the new user to verify it) and that the welcome message was sent after the new user completed the subscribe process in its entirety as set up by the list owner. This is what the names would indicate to me anyway. On Fri, 5/13/16, Mark Sapiro wrote: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] What is the difference between welcome.msg and subscribeack.txt To: mailman-users@python.org Date: Friday, May 13, 2016, 12:03 PM On 5/9/16 5:55 AM, Henrik Rasmussen wrote: > > Both can be edited by the list admin from the admin webinterface in General Options -> welcome_msg and "HTML Page Editing" -> "Welcome email text file", respectively. > > What is the difference between the welcome_msg text box and the subscribeack.txt and why would you, as list admin, edit one over the other? Historically, the ability to edit the subscribeack.txt template via the admin UI was added in Mailman 2.1.6. Prior to that there was only the welcome_msg to customize the welcome message. The difference is welcome_msg is a list attribute, whereas a custom subscribeack.txt template is a list and language specific template. welcome_msg is simpler to edit and is part of the list's configuration, but is only in the list's preferred language. subscribeack.txt is more complex to edit, but allows editing of more that just the 'welcome' paragraph. Also, by changing the list's preferred_language via the web UI (or directly editing the templates/ directory, see <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030605>), it is possible to have list specific versions of this template in different languages for multi-language lists. but these templates are part of the Mailman instalation itself rather than list attributes. The bottom line is it probably doesn't matter which you use if the welcome_msg is sufficient and if you don't need multiple languages, but if a list is 'moved' to a different installation, the welcome_msg will go with it ans the subscribeack.txt template(s) won't. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jebva%40yahoo.com ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Thunderbird
Hi all I have no idea where this question belongs to... but there might be some knowing person out here, I hope! We switched our lists to a new provider and now are using Mailman 2.1.20 from Cpanel. A user complained that his Thunderbird mail application (on MacOS X, if this matters) does no longer treat incoming list mails properly - means, the message is treated by Thunderbird as if it was sent to his "default" mail address (we call it "A" for now) instead of the address he used to subscibe to the list (address "B"). This would not be a big problem - but when he replies to a list message, the reply is sent from "A" instead of "B", resulting in an error message from Mailman... He has analysed the headers and compared with the old list setup headers. As far as he could see, the only difference was that Mailman list includes an "Envelope-To"-header with his subscription address, while the precious list version included a "Delivered-To"-header. I am not a "mail header specialist", but I would guess that these two headers are added by the receiving mail server and not by the list software. Is this assumption correct? If not, can Mailman be configured to send the "Delivered-To"-header? And if there are by chance any Thunderbird-specialists among us: what can he do to correct the situation? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Message footers
Hi all The standard message footers for my lists are ___ %(real_name)s mailing list %(real_name)s@%(host_name)s %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s I would like to add some information here how to get help and how to unsubscribe. What would the syntax be to get the following result (I don't like to experiment on the live lists): Unsubscribe: <mailto:listname-unsubscr...@domain.com> Get Help: <mailto:listname-requ...@domain.com?subject=help> would for the help line worrk? Or rather not? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Language preferences
Hi all First, thank you ro Mark Sapiro for his link to the "get-welcome" script. Next points here: (1) The 3 lists are set in language preferences to "German" as preferred language. In the language selection below, only "German" and "English (USA)" are marked as available for the list. It is obviously not possible to de-select "English (USA)" in the "available languages" for the list completely - or did I miss something? The list's subscribers are all of German language. (2) The administration interface has also switched to German after I set German as the preferred language. Since some translations of the settings are not too clear in German, and some settings even are not translated at all, I like to have the whole interface in English - but of course leave the preferred language unchanged. Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] New Mailman lists - inform users
Hi all We have moved 3 mailing lists from another system to a Mailman installation (Mailman version 2.1.20). All user addresses have been imported from the old installation, so a user should not notice the new software - unless he wants to change something in his subscription. Therefore it would be helpful if we could mass-mail the same "welcome"-message which is usually sent to new subscribers. What are our possibilities here? Or can all subscribers ask themselves for such a message? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Start a new thread" button doesn't work - Mailman3.0.2 Panel
My question is still not answered, can i do upgrade using gitlab individuals component to fix this issue. that is, Example hyperkitty version installed already using mailman bundler. but is it possible for me to do upgrade hyperkitty using gitlab individual component latest version will fix this issue? Please treat this urgent request and totally stagnant now. On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:06 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Mar 16, 2016, at 06:50 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote: >Thanks for your reply. We are running mailman 3.0.2 using bundler and we are >facing couple of issue with this version. We are stuck with this issues. We >are not sure which one is stable version in mailman to use it. I suspect you will get better results running Mailman Core from the git master branch. While I am backporting fixes to the 3.0.x branch and releasing that semi-regularly (e.g. 3.0.2) all new development, including the addition of new features previously missing, happen only on master. I expect that we'll release 3.1 by Pycon 2016. I know that bundler provides 3.0.2 right now, but it shouldn't be too difficult to switch. The few folks I know running Mailman 3 in production are running Core off the git master branch. Cheers, -Barry ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Start a new thread" button doesn't work - Mailman3.0.2 Panel
Hi Mark, Thanks for your reply. We are running mailman 3.0.2 using bundler and we are facing couple of issue with this version. We are stuck with this issues. We are not sure which one is stable version in mailman to use it. Can you please tell me which mailman version is stable to setup it. If so, how can switch over or migrate my existing mailman 3.0.2 bundler to gitlab repository Your valuable reply is highly appreciated. Regards,Cool Pilot Scorpio On Sunday, March 13, 2016 9:26 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 03/13/2016 08:19 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > > > > Hi Experts, We setup mailman3 using bundler. Now, we are facingissue with >by clicking new thread button. That’s, after click create new thread and >clicksend button by typing some texts, it shows message sent successfully. >But, nothing is appearing inmailman admin panel. Please help and fix the issue. > Already posted in gitlab mailman forum. no response last 3 days till now. >Start and Reply button notworking from Mailman3 panel (#58) · Issues · mailman >/ HyperKitty Your issue in the gitlab tracker is the appropriate place for this. The mailman-users@python.org list is, of all the possibly appropriate places, the place least likely to be seen by people actively working on Postorius, Hyperkitty and Mailman 3. There will very soon be a mailman-us...@mailman3.org list for general questions. Until then, mailman-develop...@python.org is a better place for those, and the gitlab issue trackers are probably the best place for specific issues. > Refer attached screenshots for your reference. Thanks and Regards,Cool >Pilot Scorpio Content filtering on these lists removes most non-text parts. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/coolpilotscorpio%40yahoo.com ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Start a new thread" button doesn't work - Mailman3.0.2 Panel
Hi Experts, We setup mailman3 using bundler. Now, we are facingissue with by clicking new thread button. That’s, after click create new thread and clicksend button by typing some texts, it shows message sent successfully. But, nothing is appearing inmailman admin panel. Please help and fix the issue. Already posted in gitlab mailman forum. no response last 3 days till now. Start and Reply button notworking from Mailman3 panel (#58) · Issues · mailman / HyperKitty | | | | | | | | | | | Start and Reply button notworking from Mailman3 panel (...It seems these two features are not creating new thread and reply of a exiting thread without any expect results. Pls kindly look it in to this and please let... | | | | View on gitlab.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | Refer attached screenshots for your reference. Thanks and Regards,Cool Pilot Scorpio -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Modifying Privacy.py
Thanks Mark,
That worked, with one little "gotcha". I found that after editing Privacy.py, I
had to go to the admin page of the list and although the Privacy option was
showing "Requires approval" - until I re-submitted the Privay Options page it
would operate as if it were set on "Confirm".
To recap for anyone else interested:
1. Edit /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/Privacy.py
ABOUT LINES 77 TO 90, CHANGE:
else:
sub_cfentry = ('subscribe_policy', mm_cfg.Radio,
# choices
(_('Confirm'),
_('Require approval'),
_('Confirm and approve')),
1,
_('What steps are required for subscription?'),
_('''Confirm (*) - email confirmation required
Require approval - require list administrator
approval for subscriptions
Confirm and approve - both confirm and approve
TO:
else:
sub_cfentry = ('subscribe_policy', mm_cfg.Radio,
# choices
(_('Require approval'),
_('Confirm and approve')),
1,
_('What steps are required for subscription?'),
_('''Require approval - require list administrator
approval for subscriptions
Confirm and approve - both confirm and approve
ABOUT LINE 554, CHANGE:
if property == 'subscribe_policy' and not mm_cfg.ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE:
val += 1
TO:
if property == 'subscribe_policy' and not mm_cfg.ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE:
val += 2
2. RESTART MAILMAN
3. Go to the list's admin page and select (re-select) "Require approval"
or "Confirm and approve" and submit the page.
Original Message
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Modifying Privacy.py
Local Time: February 24, 2016 11:17 am
UTC Time: February 24, 2016 12:17 AM
From: m...@msapiro.net
To: mailman-users@python.org
On 02/23/2016 03:44 PM, ListGnome ProtonMail via Mailman-Users wrote:
>
> There are currently three option and I'm trying to remove "Confirm"
> so that the only two options remain - "Require approval" and "Confirm
> and approve".
>
> In the file "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/Privacy.py" I've tried
> removing the lines that relate to "Confirm" - and as expected the
> Admin page looks okay with only the two desired options showing.
> However, what happens when someone subscribs is they actually get the
> "Confirm" process - rather than the expected "Requires approval".
>
> Is there another file I need to be looking at also? Or am I most
> likely just screwing up the "Privacy.py" file?
It's much more complicated than that. There are actually four possible
values for subscribe_policy. These values and their meanings are
0 -> Open subscribe, no confirm or approve.
1 -> Confirm, require user confirmation
2 -> Require approval
3 -> Confirm and approve, require user confirmation, then approval
There is already code in Mailman/Gui/Privacy.py to test the
mm_cfg.ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE setting and if it is false, not display the
open subscribe choice AND increment the return value allow for it's not
being there.
By removing the "Confirm" choice you are left with two choices whose
returned POST values will be 0 and 1. The mm_cfg.ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE
code will increment the return, so the two choices are 1 and 2 which are
'Confirm' and 'Require approval' Regardless of what the words say.
So Assuming you will NEVER set ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes, you can just
change the statement in the definition of _setValue() in
Mailman/Gui/Privacy.py from
if property == 'subscribe_policy' and not
mm_cfg.ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE:
val += 1
to
if property == 'subscribe_policy' and not
mm_cfg.ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE:
val += 2
--
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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[Mailman-Users] Modifying Privacy.py
Hi All, I'm attempting to modify the subscription options in the Admin section under "Privacy options: What steps are required for subscription?". There are currently three option and I'm trying to remove "Confirm" so that the only two options remain - "Require approval" and "Confirm and approve". In the file "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/Privacy.py" I've tried removing the lines that relate to "Confirm" - and as expected the Admin page looks okay with only the two desired options showing. However, what happens when someone subscribs is they actually get the "Confirm" process - rather than the expected "Requires approval". Is there another file I need to be looking at also? Or am I most likely just screwing up the "Privacy.py" file? Thanks, Mark ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
The Mailman version is in both the subject line and the OP ;-) I'll investigate those DEMARC settings. Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
RE: "Error: The form lifetime has expired. (request forgery check)" Never mind on that. Just let the admin form idle too long. So just changed to 'Munge' and unchecked the 'No Mail' box for several AOL subscribers which were bouncing. Will see if this has any impact. ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
Somehow a sentence above was cut off, Should be: I've checked and every list subscriber has the 'not metoo' and 'dupe' boxes checked. ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
FYI, I'm just using a Yahoo email account (via web interface) to post to the Mailman-users list. I don't use this account for much anything else. All posts to the list in question are moderated and almost all are sent from a Mozilla Thunderbird email client. And almost all subscribers (including AOL subscribers) are set for digest mode. In the list mail the from line always shows the listn...@subdomain.domain1.org (not an individual email address or freemail domain) How do I find these DMARC workarounds which you speak? On Fri, 12/4/15, John wrote: I see that you have a yahoo.com address. If there's a yahoo.com address on the From: line of the list mail, AOL and Yahoo's well documented abuse of DMARC will cause the failure you're seeing. If you're running a recent version of Mailman, there are some DMARC workarounds you can use. Other than that, I'd find a different address to mail from, not at Yahoo, not at AOL, and preferably not at Gmail. ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
I just attempted to change "from_is_list" from "No" to "Munge From" but observed the following error in Mailman admin "Error: The form lifetime has expired. (request forgery check)" Reading VARHELP=general/from_is_list it appears that changing to "Munge From" or "Wrap Message" would not provide any benefit when sending list digests.. ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
Thank you for everyone's ideas and recommends. I've checked and every list subscriber has the As Mark suggested trying, I'll change "from_is_list" to "Munge From" to see if that has any effect. And if not will try "Wrap Message". Note that almost all list subscribers are set to receive Digests, so hoping this doesn't mess with the format of the digests any (the list is text only, no html or attachments).. As Mark related, I suspect the issue is DNS related, and AOL is just finally cracking down on mail sent from this particular list server. A free web based DNS checker reports the following for the listserver domain: 1. FAIL - SOA record check. "No nameservers provided an SOA record for the zone". 2. FAIL - MX records check. "No MX records exist within the zone. This is legal, but if you want to receive E-mail on this domain, you should have MX record(s)." 3. PTR record for the domain "Error: Invalid IP address" I'm not privy to the details but I suspect the list server runs within a virtual host environment. >From the header of a list digest email I received yesterday - Return-Path: listname-boun...@lsubdomain.domain1.org X-RC-FROM: Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:obfuscated-port# helo=hostname.domain2.org) by hostname.domain2.org with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id obfuscated date & timestamp X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hostname.domain2.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - domain3.org X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - subdomain.domain1.org From: listname-requ...@subdomain.domain1.org Subject: Listname Digest, Vol ##, Issue ### To: listn...@subdomain.domain1.org Reply-To: listn...@subdomain.domain1.org --- It appears the listserver domain (domain1) runs on the domain2.org host and which is responsible for sending mail for domain1. Whereas the 'abuse' domain (domain3) is the domain name of the parent organization which hosts domain2, which the domain1 listserver runs upon. I'm considering sending a direct email to all the list subscribers with AOL addresses, recommending they either contact AOL to request a whitelist solution or to send us an alternative (freemail) email address which we'll change their list subscription to. Besides the list provider repairing their DNS configuration, is the above a recommended solution? If I was a network administrator I likely could phrase all this in better terms. ;-) -------------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
Hello, I'm assisting a small non-profit organization with their informational news listserv which is running on Mailman version 2.1.20. The issue is that list posts sent to AOL subscriber addresses are now bouncing as undeliverable with the bounce code: "521 5.2.1 : AOL will not accept delivery of this message." This issue just began several days ago and 200+ subscribers with AOL email addresses are now identified as bouncing in Mailman admin. I understand last year AOL (and Yahoo) made changes to their email systems which might contribute to this issue. However it didn't seem to impact our list subscribers with AOL email addresses until just now. The bounce email message for each subscriber appears as: A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: emailaccounth...@aol.com host mailin-03.mx.aol.com [64.12.91.196] SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: 521 5.2.1 : AOL will not accept delivery of this message. Unfortunately the list server runs on a host machine maintained by another non-profit, which in turn contacts with a small local hosting provider. And we don't have access to changing any list server configuration parameters, beyond what is available in the list owner admin. And unfortunately the hosting provider will not make any changes to the server for specific lists. We are just grateful the free listserv service and that they keep the version of Mailman up-to-date. And we are unable to setup a white list or feedback loop (FBL) with AOL as we don't have access to the postmaster or abuse email accounts for the list server domain. We have sent an email to http://postmaster.info.aol.com/SupportRequest.php to request unblocking out list email address and/or the list server IP (assuming one or the other is actually "blocked", we have no idea at this point), but have yet to receive a response from AOL. The error codes page at https://postmaster.info.aol.com/error-codes says this about the bounce error noted above: AOL will not accept delivery of this message This is a permanent bounce due to: * RFC2822 From domain does not match the rDNS of sending server. * RFC 2822 FROM address does not have an A record and is not a valid domain. * IP has a poor reputation and mail is sent to multiple recipients. * There are multiple From address in the mail headers and the IP reputation is poor. Before I dive into the details above and the info within the document at https://postmaster.info.aol.com/tech-requirements, I'm hoping to hear some potential simple solutions that may be applied to our particular solution. I can post the content of the list email a headers, but I wish to avoid posting the info in a public forum, Thank you for any advice. ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reverse chronological date order for archives
Hi Mark, I've tested the modified HyperDatabase.py file and it does indeed reverse the chronological order of the archives (but only in date view). And also as you said, it was necessary to "/bin/arch --wipe LISTNAME" to reverse any existing archives. Thanks again, Mark *** And the patch refactored for style against 2.1.20 is $ diff -u 2.1/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py def first(self, archive, index): self.__openIndices(archive) + if index == 'date': + dateIndex = 1 + else: + dateIndex = 0 index = getattr(self, index + 'Index') try: + if dateIndex == 1: + index.sorted.reverse() key, msgid = index.first() return msgid except KeyError: ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Reverse chronological date order for archives
Hi, Has anyone been able to order their archive messages in reverse chronological date order - so the most recent post is at the top of the page. (Version 2.1.20) I found a related thread in the Mailman-Users archive (dated 2002) but it didn't explain how it was done. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-February/017906.html Any clues greatly appreciated. Cheers, Mark -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Delete Archive
I posted a similar q on 6th but did not see the post nor any responses. (I may be still in the newbie doghouse :-) ...) My question: Is there a way to reset the archive, or delete / restart it? Mailman 2.1.20 Thank you - C-L -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Delete archive?
Is there a way to wipe out an archive and restart it from scratch? Mailman v2.1.20 C-L -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Prefix in Subject line anomaly??
Prefix for Subject Line not showing in email subject line, but it DOES show in the archive. The prefix is [CaucusPlanners] Mailman version 2.1.20... help please... C-L -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Another anomaly? Header is not showing
In the mailing list setup (v.2.1.20) there is a section in non-digest to add Header info: msg_header Option I used it in the hopes that I can put something at the top of EVERY message. But nothing appears in the messages - neither header nor does the footer show up. Help, please... C-L -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Fw: Mailman not delivering e-mails sent from Yahoo
Hello everyone, We are using Mailman Version 2.1.9 the problem we are facing is when we use a Yahoo e-mail ID to send an e-mail to a mailing list it reaches mailman but when i Accept it as a moderator it's not delivered to subscribers of the list. I tried with Gmail and MSN everything works fine but this only happens when sent from Yahoo. If anyone has had a similar problem please let me know what solution did you apply ? Thank you -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailing List Bounce Problems
Hey everyone. The mailing list archive issue that I was inquiring about is a pretty low-volume list. When looking into the archive problem, i saw there were some messages listed in /var/lib/mailman/logs/post that I never received. When looking at the member list, most of my list members were no longer receiving emails due to excessive bounces. I have it set to notify the admin (my gmail account) when a user is disabled, but I've never received a notification. I enabled notification when a message I send to the list is sent out, and I receive that notification, but nobody receives the message. Admin emails from mailman go through just fine, but any message posted to the list does not. I have an IMAP email account on the same server which hosts the mailman instance, and it seems to get all my test messages that I post just fine, but all yahoo, windstream, gmail, etc get bounced. an example line from the /var/log/mail.info file is: Sep 10 12:49:21 bunsen postfix/smtp[4616]: 0DF621C375: to=, relay=mail-tester.com[94.23.206.89]:25, delay=2.6, delays=0.03/0.07/0.86/1.6, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mail-tester.com[94.23.206.89] said: 550 Message Contains SUSPECT Content :: Please contact ab...@fortressitx.com for further information. (in reply to end of DATA command)) I've been using the services at mail-tester.com to ensure that my domain keys, DMARC, and SPF are all set well. You can see those results here (http://www.mail-tester.com/web-p6036H). I deleted the entire mailing list after exporting the 114 email address, and remade the list, and it behaves the same. The odd thing is, I have another mailing list on the same server with only 6 members, and it seems to be working fine! Any clue where to look? I've contacted ab...@fortressitx.com and received no reply. Thanks, Kevin Nowaczyk ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Forbidden Mailman Archive
Changing this apache configuration allows me to see the archive. The archive only shows one message, one that I posted yesterday. There must have been some other permissions issue which prevented mailman from saving all the previous messages to the archive. Thanks for the help! Kevin Nowaczyk On Thu, 9/10/15, Kevin Nowaczyk wrote: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Forbidden Mailman Archive To: "Mark Sapiro" Date: Thursday, September 10, 2015, 7:23 AM Changing this apache configuration allows me to see the archive. The archive only shows one message, one that I posted yesterday. There must have been some other permissions issue which prevented mailman from saving all the previous messages to the archive. Thanks for the help! Kevin Nowaczyk On Thu, 9/10/15, Mark Sapiro wrote: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Forbidden Mailman Archive To: mailman-users@python.org Date: Thursday, September 10, 2015, 3:22 AM On 09/09/2015 01:44 PM, Kevin Nowaczyk via Mailman-Users wrote: > This seems to be a somewhat common problem, so I've looked at the archives at all the suggestions, tried everything that is recent and nothing has worked. It looks like no archives are actually being created, despite the "yes" option being selected in the list configuration. My previous reply assumed that there had been successful posts to the list that weren't archived, but the "Forbidden" in the subject may imply that there have been no posts, but you are getting a 403 Forbidden status from apache when attempting to go to the archives. If this is the issue, the problem is probably that you have apache 2.4 and this > Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ > > Options +FollowSymLinks > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > needs to be Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Options +FollowSymLinks Require all granted If that isn't the answer, but the issue is 403 Forbidden, what's in /var/log/apache2/lists-error.log? -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/beakerboy99%40yahoo.com ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Forbidden Mailman Archive
This seems to be a somewhat common problem, so I've looked at the archives at all the suggestions, tried everything that is recent and nothing has worked. It looks like no archives are actually being created, despite the "yes" option being selected in the list configuration. Thanks for any help. Kevin Nowaczyk I'm running mailman 2.1.18 on debian 8.2 (Jessie) mm_cfg.py has the line DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/' and no value for PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL. messing with these setting seemed to be a 10 year old issue, so I didn't play around with this for fear of breaking something else My apache config: ServerName lists.example.com DocumentRoot /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/lists-error.log CustomLog /var/log/apache2/lists-access.log combined Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Options +FollowSymLinks Order allow,deny Allow from all Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/share/images/mailman/ ScriptAlias /admin /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admin ScriptAlias /admindb /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb ScriptAlias /confirm /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/confirm ScriptAlias /create /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create ScriptAlias /edithtml /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/edithtml ScriptAlias /listinfo /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo ScriptAlias /options /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/options ScriptAlias /private /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/private ScriptAlias /rmlist /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/rmlist ScriptAlias /roster /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/roster ScriptAlias /subscribe /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/ Directory Listing: .: total 16 drwxrwsr-x 4 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:35 . drwxrwsr-x 8 root list 4096 Jul 6 11:55 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root list0 Sep 9 20:35 list drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 private drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:04 public ./private: total 32 drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 . drwxrwsr-x 4 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:35 .. drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Sep 9 19:40 LISTNAME drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 14 2014 LISTNAME.mbox drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 13 2014 mailman drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 13 2014 mailman.mbox ./private/LISTNAME: total 12 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Sep 9 19:40 . drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 root list 493 Feb 14 2014 index.html ./private/LISTNAME.mbox: total 8 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 14 2014 . drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 .. ./private/mailman: total 12 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 13 2014 . drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 root list 506 Feb 13 2014 index.html ./private/mailman.mbox: total 8 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 13 2014 . drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 .. ./public: total 8 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:04 . drwxrwsr-x 4 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:35 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root list 42 Feb 14 2014 LISTNAME -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/LISTNAME lrwxrwxrwx 1 root list 41 Feb 13 2014 mailman -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mailman ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] ISO RegExp example to block bot subscribe requests
Hello, List is running on Mailman version 2.1.20. Last several days began receiving hundreds of bot subscription requests (all gmail addresses). All of format like: blech+12345...@gmail.com zark+98765...@gmail.com etc. I entered following regex lines in Privacy Options -> Subscription Rules -> ban_list ^.*blech ^.*zark etc Temporarily did the job, but the bot adapted and changed the prefix of the address string to: crap+12345...@gmail.com grum+98765...@gmail.com etc. Unable to keep up with the bots changing the address prefix. Common to ALL of the bot subscribe requests is including the "+" symbol in the email address So I tried entering RegExp ^.*+ but Mailman rejected this entry. But was able to enter RegExp of ^.*/+ However that allowed all the bot spam requests through. Can anyone recommend an example of a RegExp entry which would solve my dilemma? Note: Unfortunately I do not have access to the server so unable to configure SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET Thanks for any ideas. ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Getting back to default settings
Hi All, I was experimenting with settings to try and sort out attachments, and I've completely lost track of what I have changed. I think a good starting point would be to get back to defaults on everything. Is there a quick way to do that? Or failing that somewhere I can find the defaults listed, so I can do it manually? Thanks, Nick -- *My page on the International Space Art Network: http://spaceart1.ning.com/profile/NickStevens <http://spaceart1.ning.com/profile/NickStevens>.* My secure email: starba...@protonmail.ch ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrate 2.x -> 3.x
Thanks for the feedback. Please keep me updated as o what you find out. I will be very interested in seeing how this proceeds. On Tue, 7/7/15, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrate 2.x -> 3.x To: "JB" Cc: mailman-users@python.org Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2015, 3:30 AM JB via Mailman-Users writes: > I for one run a number of server with cPanel/WHM. They are using > the latest 2.x version of MM now. I was hoping that there would be > a way for cPanel/WHM to update to he 3.x tree and have all existing > list migrated to the new tree. Thanks for the suggestion. I don't think it's going to be easy because cPanel uses custom mods to Mailman, and it's kind of out of scope for me/us (they're a commercial enterprise and undoubtedly would want to integrate Mailman 3 into next year's version of cPanal rather than last year's). I will talk to the cPanel guys about avoiding duplication of effort, but most likely they will do the work on their own schedule. Steve ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrate 2.x -> 3.x
I for one run a number of server with cPanel/WHM. They are using the latest 2.x version of MM now. I was hoping that there would be a way for cPanel/WHM to update to he 3.x tree and have all existing list migrated to the new tree. On Mon, 7/6/15, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrate 2.x -> 3.x To: "Mark Sapiro" Cc: mailman-users@python.org Date: Monday, July 6, 2015, 12:06 AM Mark Sapiro writes: > The short answer is yes, there is a plan and it is one of the things we > plan to include with Mailman 3.1, but no, there is not yet an ETA for MM > 3.1. I'm planning to migrate a bunch of lists by the end of July. I will be moving from Mailman2 + Exim on Debian GNU/Linux (IIRC) to Mailman3 + Postfix on a Mac Mini running Yosemite (don't ask, it's grant money politics). I have a bunch more which will be migrating from some sort of Linux + Postfix to Centos (IIRC) + an MTA to be named later by the end of August. All that should provide some, uh, "interesting" experiences. I plan to document my experience and produce scripts. If y'all have specific requirements or configurations you'd like us to consider in producing the migration scripts, feel free to post here or mail me personally, as appropriate. (Will summarize anything generally relevant, of course.) Steve ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jebva%40yahoo.com ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Migrate 2.x -> 3.x
Is there an ETA on when a migration path from MM 2.x to 3.x will be ready or is there even a plan in place to develop such an animal? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Attachments not getting through at random...
Hi All, I'm new to the list - I did search the archives, but cannot find anything covering my specific case. My problem is with attachments to my list. For some users, attachments never get through. I'm sure it is not the file, in a couple of cases I asked the senders to CC my personal, email address. I was able to confirm the image was within limits, and also tried attaching it in a message from myself, which worked in every test. So I am somewhat confused as to what the problem might be, if it is not the attachment... My sample size is fairly small, but I'm suspicious that Apple users are getting this problem preferentially. What might it be? Perhaps the encoding used? Any and all help very gratefully received! Nick -- *My page on the International Space Art Network: http://spaceart1.ning.com/profile/NickStevens <http://spaceart1.ning.com/profile/NickStevens>.* My secure email: starba...@protonmail.ch ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Users with utf-8
I try to add member to maillist. ./add_members -r filename.txt listname in the file filename.txt it will exist a user like Lönn # Written as utf-8 When I look at memberlist afterwards at the web will it look like l...@gmail.com Lönn# Written the utf-8 as two characters What is the problem and what is the solution /LeSve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] email subscribe command not responding
Hello Walt Thiessen Am 2014-04-15 23:25, schrieb Walt Thiessen: > I have a list where the email command to subscribe another user doesn't > seem to work when I include it in the body of an email and send it to > mylist-requ...@mydomain.tld. > > subscribe [$<$PASSWORD$>$] [digest|nodigest] [address=$<$ADDRESS$>$] > > When I try to use it, I get no notification back of any kind. > > is there a setting somewhere that might be affecting this functionality? > Did you activate this functionality for this list "mylist" ? Look for: administrivia -> Yes autorespond_requests(Yes if you want always a response) autorespond_request_text Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Add a footer to each digest entry that will allow a reply
Hello Steve Nospam Am 2014-03-12 19:25, schrieb Steve Nospam: > I would like to add a footer to each message in the digest that will > allow the recipient to click and post a reply with the correct > subject, etc. Is this possible? My searches haven't produced any > useful hits. > No, it is not possible. > I have subscribers who only want to get a single email each day but > they would like to answer some of the postings. > For that there is MIME digest. http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node28.html But then your subscribers have to use an email client which supports MIME digest mails. Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] 'Dynamic' footer
Hello Rodti MacLeary Am 2014-03-13 10:40, schrieb Rodti MacLeary: > > I've trawled the archives and found a variety of questions asking how > dynamic content might be added to Mailman message footers, but no real > answers. > > While I appreciate that the Mailman tags available to the footer can be > useful for adding list admin info etc into the footer, it would be nice > to be able to inject scripted or dynamic content in there. Even if the > footer could be persuaded to read a text file (like the other template > files) then that text file could be updated. > > If there's no current solution or workaround to this is it something > that could be considered for Mailman 3? > You could use bin/config_list -i text_file.txt yourlist for the corresponding list. You would have to provide your text file in mailman config syntax to this command. So something like this in the text file text_file.txt would work: msg_footer = """Some Text to put at the footer. With multiple lines. And with tags like %(host_name)s.""" digest_footer = """Some Text to put at the digest footer. With multiple lines. And with tags like %(host_name)s.""" This also works for headers. Kind regards, Christian Mack -------------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Prefix for subject line
Hello nikos Am 2014-02-03 09:43, schrieb nikos: > > What will happened if i remove (leave blank) Prefix for subject line? > You will get subjects without any prefix for that list ;-) Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] couple of questions...
Hello Ricardo Kleemann Am 2014-01-15 06:32, schrieb Ricardo Kleemann: > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> On 01/14/2014 04:28 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: >>> >>> 1) What file would I modify to customize the text for the subscription >>> results? I'm looking to customize the text in another language (pt_BR) >> but >>> I can't find the text file. I do see the subscribe.html template and it >>> makes a mention to >> >> >> The replacement for the tag is built on the fly by the >> Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py module. See that module for the English strings >> involved. These strings are the keys for the pt_BR translations in >> messages/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po. >> > So I understand I need to use msgfmt.py to compile changes made to the > text. > > It seems my mailman installation doesn't have that file, it's not in the > bin directory and a "locate msgfmt.py" returns nothing... is there > somewhere I can grab it? > You need the GNU gettext package for your OS. msgfmt is a tool within it. Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] niltonp...@hotmail.com is sending OoO messages (with Adverts)
Hello Mark Sapiro Am 2014-01-15 04:45, schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 01/14/2014 02:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Jim Popovitch wrote: >>> Posts to MM-Users gets you a strange OoO message, from >>> niltonp...@hotmail.com, with a "Travel - Promotional Prices" >>> advertisement. Booo! >> >> If I get the same response to this post I will disable his delivery. > > > I didn't get an autoresponse to this. Has anyone else seen one in reply > to their mailman-users posts? > No I didn't get any autoresponses from the list. Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman doesn't send messages from smart phone
Hello Camelia Botez Am 2014-01-14 07:05, schrieb Camelia Botez: > One of our user tried to send an e-mail to a mailing list from his smart > phone including an attachment. > He got back the following error message: > > The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format > was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This > mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to > the list administrator(s). > > > How can I fix this? > Your user didn't email the list, but the bounce address of the list. Tell him to use the proper email address without "-bounce" in the name part. Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Manual Weiel's moderating app?
Hello Peter Shute Am 2014-01-13 02:21, schrieb Peter Shute: > I came across this thread about a moderating app written by Manuel Weiel: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg60445.html > > I can't find it in the App Store. Is it still available somehow? > Did you try the given Link? http://cl.ly/DyCl Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I know what I joined the mailing list ?
Hello Tian Zhiying Am 2013-09-09 05:34, schrieb Tian Zhiying: > > I have subscribed a lot of mailing list, but how can I know what I joined the > mailing list ? > You will know the moment you get emails from each list :-) You will at least for mailman-users get a monthly reminder email. > And, Mailman and OpenLDAP can integrate？ > No, mailman uses its own authentication. AFAIK this is planned for Mailman 3 (which is in beta now). Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Tangential encryption issue, FWIW
Hello Lindsay Haisley Am 2013-05-07 04:40, schrieb Lindsay Haisley: > Pursuant to a conversation I had on this list last year, I did develop a > patch and application for AES encryption of the address of the posting > subscriber and the list name and poking the result into the > Resent-Message-ID. This is a patch against MM 2.1.15, not against the > v3 development tree. I know I did suggest that I intended to put > together some suggested code which would implement this in v3, but as > they say, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. I have a lot > on my plate. > > If anyone would like a copy of my work, it's pretty simple, and if > someone wants to pick up the ball and put it into MM3 they have my > blessing. Let me know. > Does that patch activate it for all lists, or selective for specified lists? Kind regards, Christian Mack ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and SpamAssassin
Hello Lindsay Haisley On 2012-08-28 17:24, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > I'm putting in a new server and would like to integrate SpamAssassin > into Mailman (2.1.15) according to the directions previously posted > online at http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/, which > I updated at http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030589 > and have been using successfully on another server. Unfortunately, the > original article is no longer online. Does anyone know if there's a > mirror or archive of it somewhere? > Waybackmachine is your friend here. Be aware that pictures and multimedia files normally are not saved there. http://web.archive.org/web/20100323051444/http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Administratively subscribe other users via email
Hello Nick Bright
On 2012-08-14 01:59, Nick Bright wrote:
> I'm sorry if this is a repeated question; but I've spent the last hour
> searching/reading faq's and not finding anything useful.
>
> I'm creating a newsletter mailing list, which I've successfully done -
> now, I am trying to get my billing system to automatically add new
> customers to the mailing list.
>
> The easiest way to do this would be to have my billing system send an
> email to mailman to subscribe the user.
>
> However, I have as of yet been unable to locate any information on how
> to do so.
>
> I've tried using the "Approved:" header with a subscribe command in the
> mail body, following the subscribe command syntax at
> http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node41.html, but the response back
> from mailman is that the commands remain unprocessed.
>
> What is the correct syntax for doing this?
>
Send an email with subject help and empty body to your
${listname}-request@${your.mailman.server}.
You will get back a description of all commands supported by email.
Kind regards,
Christian Mack
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Re: [Mailman-Users] creating second mailinglist
Hello Andre Vallese On 2012-08-09 14:03, Andre Vallese wrote: > > We have a mailinglist already running well. Now trying to create a new > mailinglist. So we are on http://listen.ifz.name/mailman/admin and click on > create new list. What appears is the site > http://listen.ifz.name/mailman/create with the text: > > “Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable > to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@localhost and inform them > of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may > have caused the error. > > More information about this error may be available in the server error log. > Perhaps this is a permisson problem or a misconfiguration of suhosin, or your harddisk is full or ... Perhaps you should do what the error message suggests: Look into the apache server error log! Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error on attempt to create a List in Mailman 2.1.7-15.12.1 from Mailman Web admin UI
Hello Stephen J. Turnbull On 2012-06-25 09:37, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Mailman Admin writes: > > > The problem is, that even after bin/fixurl is run, the archive directory > > /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ has owner:group = mailman:mailman . > > You have to set it to wwwrun:mailman, in order for the apache server to > > have write access to it too. > > The httpd doesn't need access to the archives; the mailman CGI does. > So the CGI wrapper should be setgid mailman. Is it? > Yes it is. ls -ld /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ drwxr-sr-x 2 root mailman 4096 Jun 14 08:37 /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ ls -l /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ total 144 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10832 May 18 19:18 admin -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 admindb -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 confirm -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 create -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 editarch -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 edithtml -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 listinfo -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 options -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 private -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 rmlist -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 roster -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 subscribe > > This was changed by the last update of mailman via SLES 10 updates, > > therefore is a distro bug. > > +1 to that, though. > Kind regards, Christian Mack ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
