[Mailman-Users] Reply Bodies as Attachments

2016-10-30 Thread rex
I'm having the same problem on all of my lists, which most people read 
on their Android or IOS devices.


When I send something out, if anyone replies, it is delivered with my 
defined header and footer, but the body is an attachment which can't be 
read. It says, "No Application Available for This Content".


I've looked through all of the settings and can't find anything related 
to it or that affects it.


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[Mailman-Users] Error

2016-05-17 Thread rex
The last time I posted here, my hosting company said that my newly 
upgraded plan did not support Mailman. I've been wrangling with them 
over that for a few weeks. They finally got it working, they said. All 
of my lists became active again, but now I can't send mail to them. I've 
sent this error to them, but I'm hoping someone here can help me.


When I hit send, I get:

SMTP Error (550): Failed to add recipient "listn...@mydomain.com" (5.1.1 
<listn...@mydomain.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in 
virtual mailbox table).


This happens on all of my mailman lists. Substitute listname and 
mydomain.com appropriately, of course, but every list gets it.


Any advice I can give to my hosting company?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman not supported on new server

2016-04-04 Thread rex
My host company has upgraded me to a new server at my request. After 
migrating things from my old server, I learned that they say that 
mailman doesn't work on the new server. When I try to create a new list 
using whatever it is they do support through the hosting company's admin 
interface, it tells me my lists still exist.


I can use the mailmain admin to do administrative stuff, but if I try to 
send an email to the list, I get an error like below:


   SMTP Error (550): Failed to add recipient 
"myl...@mydomain.com" (5.1.1 <myl...@mydomain.com>: Recipient address 
rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table).


I wonder if there is a way to get mailman to work and show my hosting 
company that it is still possible.


Rex


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive Viewing

2014-12-11 Thread rex
Nevermind. I was wrong. It isn't enough to follow the archive link.  
You have to choose something to sort it by first. :)


Quoting r...@rexgoode.com:

How soon after setting archive to yes should I see messages in the  
archive? I've had it set to yes for a couple of days but the archive  
is still empty.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread rex
Well, everyone, my disadvantages/advantages list was successful in  
getting people to join my mailman list.


There were a few holdouts, but the main players decided that the list  
was a good idea and signed up. The rest will probably follow when  
their discussion dries up and everything that's happening is on the  
list.


One question came up and I knew the answer, but it brings up a  
question for me.


They wanted to know if there was a files area where they could  
upload things like Word documents, etc. I told them there wasn't. I  
could provide one, but I would have to come up with a login mechanism  
to keep the files only available to the list subscribers. I know these  
people won't get on board with a whole new username/password to  
remember on top of the one they need for mailman.


Is there a way for me to detect that they have logged in and give them  
access to be able to up- and download files to an area I provide?  
Actually, I'd like to keep uploads just to those I set as list  
moderators.


I don't know python, but I know enough a dozen languages, so I don't  
think it will be a problem if I have to learn it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread rex
Hmmm. A python pickle. Dill or sweet? Sounds interesting. I can probably read 
python if I try. Might actually like it

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread rex

Mark,

That sounds great! Easy and no grueling programming in unfamiliar territory.

Rex

Quoting Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net:


On 12/10/2014 03:56 AM, r...@rexgoode.com wrote:


They wanted to know if there was a files area where they could upload
things like Word documents, etc. I told them there wasn't.



But there is in a way at least. If you allow these as attachments in
Content filtering or don't filter content at all, and set Non-digest
options - scrub_nondigest to Yes, then the non text/plain attachments
will be stored aside in the archive and replaced by links in the
delivered message.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages - Files

2014-12-10 Thread rex
Agreed about Yahoo. I get lots of spam from friends who have had their  
Yahoo mail hacked. I finally convinced my wife to stop using Yahoo.


Quoting Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org:


Keith Bierman writes:

  Obviously, since we're all here we've chosen mailman and related
  tools. But for a relatively small group of novices wouldn't the old
  egroups.com (taken over by yahoo ages ago, but lives on)

Friends don't let friends use Yahoo! services.  They demonstrably have
security issues, and they consider their security problems to be a
justification for poor netizenship.  I've come to have a grudging
respect for their postmaster staff (which I cannot say for AOL)[1],
but I consider their management to be untrustworthy on their best
days.

I don't know about Google and Hotmail services.  It's possible they're
subject to the same considerations as Yahoo! and AOL, but have been
lucky so far.  Your guess is as good as mine, or better, maybe. :-)

  or google groups be an appropriate solution? They've got shared
  file areas, moderation, web and email interfaces, etc.

And lock-in.  If you ever decide you want the amenities of a modern
MLM like Mailman, getting your data back out of any of these services
is not easy (compared to getting it out of Mailman, anyway -- at the
very least, although you'll make Mark sad if you say you're migrating
away from Mailman, it won't delay his helpful answer more than a few
milliseconds).

Agreed, those services are something to consider.  I've never been
happy with them as a user, though.


Footnotes:
[1]  By which I mean the folks from these organizations I meet on the
IETF mailing lists.


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[Mailman-Users] Archive Viewing

2014-12-10 Thread rex
How soon after setting archive to yes should I see messages in the  
archive? I've had it set to yes for a couple of days but the archive  
is still empty.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-07 Thread rex
Hey, everyone. Thanks for your feedback on my request for  
advantages/disadvantages of a mailing list over a Cc list.


I came up with the following, based on your feedback, and reworded in  
language I think my colleagues can understand.


Would you look it over and tell me if I've misrepresented anything or  
have left anything out?


Rex

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-07 Thread rex
I suppose I should have added what I wanted you to look at. I don't  
think mailman reads minds, yet.


Disadvantages for Using Cc to Manage a Mailing List

1) The list of recipients can be added to without the recipient's permission.

2) Any recipient can delete an address from the list.

3) When the Cc list gets too long, Internet Service Providers will  
mark it as spam and all senders may be put in a blacklist.


4) If you want to be removed, everyone on the list has to take your  
address out of the Cc line.


5) If you want out, everyone replying to any message when you were in  
will put you back in.


6) You can't use your email program's filtering capabilities to keep  
your inbox clean.


7) If your computer gets hacked, hackers can mine harvest our  
addresses from your contact list.


Advanatages of a Software-Managed List

1) There is an archive of all past postings that can be searched by  
subscribers only.


2) The software provides spam filtering, protecting everyone's email  
addresses from spammers.


3) The software prevents us from getting each others' vacation messages.

4) The software prevents us from getting error messages when each  
others' mailbox is full or bounces.


5) Easier filtering in your email program, i.e., you can create a  
folder that only has the list's messages.


6) Each user can manage his own subscription, including turning  
delivery off when you go on vacation or want some peace and quiet from  
the discussion (and the archive will still be there when you want to  
turn it on again).


7) Numerous customizable options, such as:
   a standard footer (for confidentiality messages, etc)
   moderating tools,
   anonymizing addresses

8) Hides the email addresses of all members.

9) If you don't like getting every piece of email sent by subscribers,  
you can set yourself for digest mode, where you would only get one  
message per day that has every message for that day inside it.





Quoting r...@rexgoode.com:

Hey, everyone. Thanks for your feedback on my request for  
advantages/disadvantages of a mailing list over a Cc list.


I came up with the following, based on your feedback, and reworded  
in language I think my colleagues can understand.


Would you look it over and tell me if I've misrepresented anything  
or have left anything out?


Rex

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[Mailman-Users] Advantages

2014-12-02 Thread rex

I have been a long-time user of mailman and have been on many mailing lists.

I am also part of a professional association of social workers that  
operate in my area. They have been using a list of addresses in a Cc  
field to manage their mailing list. I can't imagine anything more  
fraught with problems than that, but I can't convince these people to  
let me host a mailman mailing list for them.


I can think of a lot of advantages myself, but I'm wondering if anyone  
has seen a good list somewhere. I'm a strange combination of software  
engineer and social worker, so I understand both worlds. My social  
worker colleagues tend to think of something like a mailing list as  
complicating things rather than simplifying them.


I'm not necessarily asking for a discussion here, but I'd like some  
feedback on this.


Viva Mailman!

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[Mailman-Users] There are no pending requests

2014-03-26 Thread rex
The Mailman web page to approve messages held for approval always has
the message: There are no pending requents, even when there 
are messages in /var/lib/mailman/data/heldmsg-mynewlist-1.pck

Running Mailman 2.1.15 under Debian Wheezy with a new list that has
never existed on any local machine. 

1) Mail that does not require approval is posted to the list normally.
2) All web pages with the exception of the one below function normally.
3) Mail from moderated subscribers produces the usual notice to the
list admin, but when the page:

http://myserver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb/mynewlist

is visited, this message appears:

There are no pending requests. Click here to reload this page.

Reloading the page makes no difference. 

I tried the hold_again script from here:
http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/

When the hold_again script is run, this is the result:

root@ /usr/lib/mailman/bin# ./hold_again -n -v -l mynewlist
Requeueing message from file heldmsg-mynewlist-1.pck

The held message is in the data directory:

root@:/var/lib/mailman/data# ls -l
-rw-r- 1 root list   41 May  3  2013 adm.pw
-rw-rw 1 root list 1997 Nov  6  2012 aliases
-rw-rw 1 list list12288 Nov  6  2012 aliases.db
[...]
-rw-rw-r-- 1 list list  775 Mar 25 16:11 heldmsg-mynewlist-1.pck
[...]
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root list   10 Jul 13  2012 last_mailman_version
-rw-r--r-- 1 root list14100 Jun 16  2012 sitelist.cfg
-rw-rw 1 root list 1831 Nov  6  2012 virtual-mailman
-rw-rw 1 list list12288 Nov  6  2012 virtual-mailman.db

The hold_again command results in a new notice to the list admin re
the held message, but revisiting the web page shows the same There
are no pending requests message.

Responding via email to the list admin message with an 
Approved: listadminpswd header results in a copy of the sent message
being sent to the list admin, but no action re the held message; it's
still held, with the same timestamp.

The server is running apache 2.4.6-3.

The mailman.conf file in /etc/apache2/sites-available has:

# Sample configuration for Debian mailman with Apache

# We can find mailman here:
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/
# And the public archives:
Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
# Logos:
Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/share/images/mailman/

# Use this if you don't want the cgi-bin component in your URL:
# In case you want to access mailman through a shorter URL you should enable
# this:
#ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/
# In this case you need to set the DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN in
# /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py to http://%s/mailman/ for the cookie
# authentication code to work.  Note that you need to change the base
# URL for all the already-created lists as well.

Directory /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
Require all granted
/Directory
Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
Options FollowSymlinks 
AllowOverride None
Require all granted 
/Directory
Directory /usr/share/images/mailman/
AllowOverride None
Require all granted
/Directory


I've spent hours trying to resolve this problem.  Any help would be
much appreciated.

TIA,

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[Mailman-Users] Checking for Heartbeat

2009-11-27 Thread Rex Goode
First, thanks to Mark Sapiro for the great reply on Multiple List 
Pending Requests.


I host with jumpline.com, which generally does a good job with me. The 
Mailman installation is pretty good, but for some reason I can't track 
down, Mailman keeps going belly-up. Jumpline customer support doesn't 
know why. I have to stop it to turn off whatever qrunners are running 
and restart it. I don't mind doing that now and then. It doesn't happen 
that often.


Here's the problem. My users don't think to tell me when they haven't 
had any mail from the list for awhile. I just go along thinking all is 
well until someone tells me, Hey, Rex. We haven't had any email from 
the list for a week. I restart and old email mostly catches up.


I have an administrative page for all of my web sites and the various 
things they do. I am on that page several times each day. I would like 
to generate some message when Mailman isn't working, something I would 
see there. A lot of the command line scripts seem to work even if 
Mailman is not running. What can I use to check to see if it is alive?


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[Mailman-Users] Multiple List Pending Requests

2009-11-26 Thread Rex Goode

Hello, everyone. I'm new here.

I operate several Mailman lists. I have lots of questions, but will 
start with the most pressing one.


It is cumbersome, with so many lists, to go in to each list's page of 
pending administrative requests to see what is waiting for me to act upon.


I just discovered withlist this morning. I think I can handle my shell 
for iterating through all of my lists.


Is there some way, possibly with withlist, for me to get a list of 
pending requests for a list. I don't need a lot of information about 
them. Maybe even just a number of pending requests. The results of the 
query on all lists would go to me in an email.


My users are getting annoyed when I get around to looking at their held 
messages and releasing them two weeks after they sent them. Maybe I'm 
just irresponsible, but it seems I should be able to know which lists 
have pending requests with just one click/cron/something.


Rex

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[Mailman-Users] Question on the Sender Filter

2009-06-05 Thread Rex Helwig
I am trying to allow the members of one of our other lists to be able to
post to another list without being a member.  I have tried several
permutations of the list address but haven't found one that works.  Our
current version is 2.1.11.  The list I moderate is s...@polarisusersgroup.org
and I would like to allow the members of the a...@polarisusersgroup.org to
post to it.  I have tried @all, ^...@all, @a...@polarisusersgroup.org,
^...@all@polarisusersgroup.org mailto:%...@all@polarisusersgroup.org ,
a...@polarisusersgroup.org without any success.  How should I enter the all
list to get this to function?
 
Thanks,
 
Rex

Sc Mailing list Configuration Help 
accept_these_nonmembers Option
accept_these_nonmembers (privacy): List of non-member addresses whose
postings should be automatically accepted. 
Postings from any of these non-members will be automatically accepted with
no further moderation applied. Add member addresses one per line; start the
line with a ^ character to designate a regular expression match. A line
consisting of the @ character followed by a list name specifies another
Mailman list in this installation, all of whose member addresses will be
accepted for this list. 
Top of Form

Bottom of Form
 
 
Rex
 
Rex R. Helwig
Computer Network Services Manager
Finger Lakes Library System
119 E. Green St.
Ithaca, NY  14850
(607)273-4074 x40
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Charles..and question about looping bounces

2004-08-21 Thread marci and rex
Charles said: ( and then some!)
I am sorry to have bothered you with my crap and I am resigning from the 
list.
Charles
HI Charles, ( if youre still here)
 I understand your frustration. I have come from  running a mailing list 
with very few options ( that also let in spam and viruses and ALL kinds of 
garbage) to a Mailman mailing list with so many options I dont know what to 
do...and yes, sometimes the admins here can be a little brusque... In their 
defense , running a mailing list where you are answering the same questions 
over and over again and most of the time  because people just didnt DANG 
READ can  cause an admin's eyeballs to burst into flames at times.. ( I 
keep a fire extinguisher by my monitor for those times when it happens 
repeatedly on my own mailinglist and I also have a little sign up 
saying: Listers! Ya gotta love em! Ya cant strangle em )
   The problem is, that by venting 6 times and not bothering to edit all 
the headers  and such in your emails, you have subjected the rest of us on 
this list to miles and miles of tirade...We all know where youre coming 
frombut , guy, ONCE would have been enough.
   OK, on to MY tirade ... ( grin ) .
 Im dealing with a host who has changed the Mailman defaults so that when 
I get  great suggestions from the list, ( thank you !) I go to our Mailman 
pages and  find that they have removed all of those wonderful options! 
ARGHHH!
  My latest  ( Ongoing ) problem is that my partner and I have emails set 
up for our domain ...eg.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ... the mail is bouncing ( probably because we are running 
it  through another server  mine is comcast.net   ) ... We are 
getting knocked off our own mailing list because of bounces... In the 
interest of brevity, I wont send all the headers ( if you need them, I will 
) ...
 BAsic error message Im getting is this:
 Action: Subscription disabled.
Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces.
The triggering bounce notice is attached below.
This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6)
 ( and yes, I searched the FAQs and couldnt find anything )
marci

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[Mailman-Users] Re add members w/o confirming a good MUA

2004-08-19 Thread marci and rex

 RE: adding members without having  them confirm?
David said:
You can also subscribe members in the List Administration web interface
under Membership Management  Mass Subscription. This is much easier
for a non-techie.
a different David ;)
 Hi d D ! ( grin ) ...Different person with the same problem 
hereWe tried that when we originally set up our new mailing list 
thinking we could copy/paste subscriber emails to our old mailing list into 
this field... all it did was send out invitations to subscribe..It didnt 
actually subscribe them...They still have to reply to the  verify email and 
thats where we are having the problem...
   I am having trouble with our members either not getting 
the  verification emails or  probably
having them  dumped into spam filter files... We are dealing with a lot of 
elderly ( 70 +) porcelain artists who are artists and not computer geeks.. 
:-)  and I have several who have resubscribed 4 or 5 times and are just 
not getting the idea of  reply to the verify letter...and there are also 
some who manage to retrieve the letters or click on the webpage  link in 
the email only to be told that it is an invalid verification code... ( I 
know these expire after 3 days... but these are ones that are  giving the 
errors on the same day they are dated... )
Also, if anybody has some recommendations of good MUAs ( boy , I hope 
i used the right term here )  that will display Mailman properly with 
styled text, Im all ears... I personally run Eudora  and it displays 
everything... but some of our listers are getting either scrubbed messages 
or every message as an attachment. I would love to be able to take 
advantage of colored  text  so if anyone has any suggestions I can pass 
along, Im all ears...
 Thanks , everybody
 marci
PPIO.com
 Porcelain Painters International Online

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2001-12-01 Thread Rex Evilsizor

I am interested in a mailing list program that will allow someone to
enter their email address to automatically receive my newsletter and any
downloads that they might want.

Will this program do this?

Rex Evilsizor


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