[Mailman-Users] Re: AOL list member not receiving list traffic
Less than a year ago, AOL started silently dumping dozens of emails on a list. We reduced the number of emails per connection and the problem ceased. Yes, AOL is obtuse, and once mail is accepted by AOL, only internal AOL logs are going to tell the story. You could send logs to list members individually and have them contact AOL. On 2022/08/27 01:36 AM, Jayson Smith wrote: Hi, Yesterday I received a report from an AOL user that she's not receiving traffic from one of my lists. The problem here is that my server logs show outgoing mail being accepted by AOL's incoming mail servers, and of course after that it's anyone's guess what happens to them. She says she's checked her junkmail folder and the messages aren't there. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Is AOL known to silently discard mail they think is spam for some reason? I replied to her message from the same server and she did receive that reply, so they haven't outright blocked my IP or something. Even if I could contact someone who knows what they're doing at AOL, there are no error logs for me to show. Jayson -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: AT RBL again
Digital Ocean has a truly crappy reputation with us. We now block by IP address (knowing the problems) because of lack of cooperation from DO. Same for OVH. The email world would be better off without DO and OVH. On 2021/03/30 11:33 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I had two servers blocked by ATT, fortunately not this one. They were both DigitalOcean droplets,[...] FWIW, a couple of my regular correspondents have said that DO generally does not have a great email reputation, and that they're moving lists to other platforms. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject
I've been using Mailman on Debian for over a decade on dozens of projects. I've never contributed any code. I've never said a word. I just want to thank the team for spending thousands of hours creating a free program that does such an impressive job.Thank you!~Vince Vincent F. Heuser, Jr. Hirsh and Heuser Attorneys 3600 Goldsmith Lane Louisville, KY 40220 (502) 458-5879 http://www.hirshandheuser.com vheu...@hirshandheuser.com - Original Message - From: "R. Diez via Mailman-Users" To: "Richard Damon" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 08:36 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject Perhaps I'm being a bit over dramatic, but it does, in my mind, describe what you seem to be doing, You come in and say that the list software isn't working the way you would prefer, but for this conversation, everyone else needs to change how they use the list so you can > [...] You are being a bit over dramatic indeed. I don't pretend that everyone else should change their ways. And I do look into the archives all the time. That is what I am trying to optimise away. I just wish Mailman (or whatever associated component) would help here, like other communication platforms already do. Like I said, I cannot subscribe to every list I need to ask a question or drop a bug report into. I just have not got enough time. I only go through the mailing list hoops if something is really serious, or if something really bugs me. Unsurprisingly, bureaucracy barriers do have a negative effect on communication after all. And I do care. I am trying to understand what the problem is. I am trying to convince you guys, because you write mailing list software. This communication activity also counts as "work". If I find the time, I will write it all up in my Wiki, so other people have a quick overview of what the problem is. I am not the only one annoyed by this. The expectation for a mailing list, is that someone with a question will come and hopefully first browse through the archives (perhaps with a > [...] I have done that. Why do you assume or imply that I had not? I just didn't find anything applicable. To just barge in and do it 'their own way' is just being impolite. > [...] Would you rather I didn't post then? But like I said, I do look at the archives later on. This is how I realised that you do have a message at the top dated "April 2024". By the way, that is a bit embarrassing for a mailing list for mailing list software. But manually looking at the archives is just unnecessarily time consuming for me. As far as your mailing list is concerned, you can certainly say that users should accommodate to the way you operate your mailing list. You can start by stating your usage policy here, next to "Mailman Users": http://list.org/contact.html But I still think it is a strange way to treat your users. You know, the people you write the software for. My claim is, that drives many people away. What you consider "unpolite" often comes across as "unforgiving", "unhelpful" or "out of touch with reality" on the other side. After all, you are trying to load unnecessary burden on the shoulders of those users willing to communicate. Not subscribing is in fact a quite common behaviour. For example, look for "not subscribed" here: https://sourceforge.net/p/smartmontools/mailman/smartmontools-support/thread/9e4d58a79814d365ac99c8181eeb3...@coraid.com/ https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/04/msg00012.html > [...] 'Mostly work' is often a problem. Computers need precise procedures, and people tend to expect that they do things right. No need to be so strict. We face communication problems everyday. Mobile phones fail. Letters get lost. Misunderstandings. Wrong addressee. Server down. The lot. But things are still improving. Surely Mailman and the like can do better! It's a bit like asking why the city bus can't come right when I need it, Surely the smartphone app that tells you when the bus comes (or maybe Google Maps) does not get it 100 % right either. But would you rather go back to reading paper timetables from the official source? Regards, rdiez -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/vince%40vheuser.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.
[Mailman-Users] Subscribe Spam solution
Trying to stop subscribe spam following Mark's instructions here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1082746 When activated, I get this html on the listinfo page: "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs." And this is in the error log: admin(31878): File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 117, in run_main admin(31878): main() admin(31878): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 65, in main admin(31878): list_listinfo(mlist, language) admin(31878): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 198, in list_listinfo admin(31878): mlist.internal_name() + admin(31878): TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'bool' and 'str' admin(31878): [- Python Information -] admin(31878): sys.version = 2.7.9 (default, Mar 1 2015, 18:22:53) [GCC 4.9.2] admin(31878): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(31878): sys.prefix = /usr admin(31878): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(31878): sys.path= ['/var/lib/mailman/pythonlib', '/var/lib/mailman', '/usr/lib/mailman/scripts', '/var/lib/mailman', '/usr/lib/python2.7/', '/usr/lib/python2.7/plat-i386-linux-gnu', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-old', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages'] admin(31878): sys.platform= linux2 admin(31878): [- Environment Variables -] admin(31878): HTTP_REFERER: http://lists.[redacted].com/ admin(31878): CONTEXT_DOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo admin(31878): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) admin(31878): CONTEXT_PREFIX: /listinfo admin(31878): SERVER_SIGNATURE: Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) Server at lists.[redacted].com Port 80 admin(31878): admin(31878): REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(31878): PATH_INFO: /action-list admin(31878): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(31878): QUERY_STRING: admin(31878): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0 admin(31878): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(31878): SERVER_NAME: lists.[redacted].com admin(31878): REMOTE_ADDR: [redacted] admin(31878): PATH_TRANSLATED: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfoaction-list admin(31878): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(31878): SERVER_ADDR: [redacted] admin(31878): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /home/[redacted]/www/lists admin(31878): PYTHONPATH: /var/lib/mailman admin(31878): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo admin(31878): SERVER_ADMIN: [no address given] admin(31878): HTTP_DNT: 1 admin(31878): HTTP_HOST: lists.[redacted].com admin(31878): SCRIPT_NAME: /listinfo admin(31878): HTTP_UPGRADE_INSECURE_REQUESTS: 1 admin(31878): HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL: max-age=0 admin(31878): REQUEST_URI: /listinfo/action-list admin(31878): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(31878): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(31878): REMOTE_PORT: 1515 admin(31878): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-US,en;q=0.5 admin(31878): REQUEST_SCHEME: http admin(31878): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate I am new to Python I don't know how to verify whether the config change "mlist.hash_subscribe = True" actually happened. Is there a hash code in the listinfo page? Where is that? Anyone know what is wrong? Thanks! Vince H. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Detailed Flowchart
Where can I get a detailed flowchart of the Mailman program? Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https
Sorry for the top post but I really don't have any in-line comments...
Dan,
Is it safe to assume that you are using apache as your web server?
Have you set up each of your virtual domains with its own IP address or are
you attempting to share the same IP address between multiple servers? SSL
doesn't support name based virtual hosting so you will need a unique IP
address for each domain.
Vince Van De Coevering
IT Manager
Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
503-371-9318 x216
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Dan Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 01, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Mailman-Users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https
Hello All -
With Mark Sapiro's help, I got Mailman running on my apache
virtual server, at least for the most important virtual host,
xxx.org. I'd like to get Mailman to deliver from either of
my two virtual hosts both over https. I have mailman and
pipermail dirs set up in httpd.conf under each of the virtual
hosts. I'm using Sendmail.
So, before unsubscribing from this list, I have a couple of
questions. -
1) In the mm_cfg.py file, I have
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '.org'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) (NOTE:
doesn't need quotes, right? It worked fine without quotes)
add_virtualhost('second-virtual-host.com',
'second-virtual-host.com') (NOTE: needs quotes or I get an
error message when running mailmanctl restart)
Right now, the list I want to run from second-virtual-host
and its admin pages come up under https://.org . When I
try to use the web interface from
second-virtual-host/mailman/admin/list-name, I get 404 error
still under https://.org .
I changed the list setting to second-virtual-host.com, so now
Overview at the bottom of the page includes
second-virtual-host.com, but all links at the bottom of the
page (including Overview) shows the url as https://.org .
In other words, I can not reach the list from
second-virtual-host.com, either http or https.
I hope that this message is clear enough to spell out my
problem and hopefully initiate a useful response.
Thanks as always.
Dan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman
I know this link isn't to a FreeBSD implementation but It's a very good how-to for making Mailman, virtual domains, And postfix all work together... Virtual Mailhosting System with Postfix Guide http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml The guide covers the interaction between several components of a mail system including how to use Mailman with virtual Domains. Vince Van De Coevering IT Manager Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. 503-371-9318 x216 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tiago Cruz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 27, 2005 1:20 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Help with Virtual Mailman Hi guys! My name is Tiago Cruz, I live in Brazil and I love *nix systems :) I can't write in english as well, so sorry for anything. I have a FreeBSD 5.4 box with Postfix and MySQL running with a several Virtual Hosts listed in Apache/ DNS. I would like to put my test domain called sagarana.com in a list named [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Note: The domain sagarana.com its works as well, with my virtual users like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Well, I cannot send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because the postfix don't see my aliases of mailman ans say: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table And... I not understood the function of file virtual-mailman (the my file have a 0kb...) Thanks a lot Brazilian Regards! -- Tiago Cruz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sagatiba Brasil S/A - Network Administrator Ph.: 55.11.3095.3053 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/vpv%40figaros.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq 01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Query list for dynamic mailings (sub lists)?
I've been asked to upgrade the mailing portion of the companies e-deals web site. The current method of sending mail is primitive at best and requires a lot of maintenance to keep bounces to a minimum. I am impressed with mailman and its ability to manage most of these functions. What I need to be able to do is to send mail to all customers, those customers who sign up for a particular store and to send email to customers on (or near) their birthday. Obviously, I would need to extend the data tables to contain those pieces of information (store ID and birth date). From reading the FAQs and the Mailman web site I believe the best approach would be to create a mailing list for each store and an umbrella list which covers all stores. I probably could support the birth date requirement by creating a 3 tier list: birth date; store (umbrella of jan-dec birth date lists); global (Umbrella of store lists). My preference would be to create a single list and to perform some sort of query when the mail is sent to create a dynamic sub list (by store, by birth date, by store birth date, etc.) of members. Has anyone done or seen a modification to do this? Vince Van De Coevering IT Manager Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. 503-371-9318 x216 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Subscribing Via Email
Hey All, I know this will sound like a stupid question. But what the heck is the address for a new user to subscribe to my list? I've read through the documentation and it says to use the -join or -subscribe variable. Neither of these work. My mailing list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and neither of these add me to the list. Is there someplace in the admin section where I need to change some settings, or what's the deal? Thanks so much. Vince --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 6/2/2004 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Link in Footer
Hey All, I posted a question about this in a previous post and it is still yet unresolved. I've looked through ALL the documentation on the python, and list.org sites and have found no answers for this. No matter what I do or how I configure the variables the footer will not convert to a link. It only posts to the messages as text. I even tried encapsulating it in a href tags and that didn't work either. I've solved every other issue so far except this one. BTW I am sending html email, so my final thought is perhaps I should change my email template to include the link there and just delete the footer altogether, but then email sent from other users of the list will not get a link either. This is very strange, please give me a hand here. Thanks so much. Vince --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 6/2/2004 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Links Again :(
Ok I've resigned myself to the fact that I have to send text mail, unfortunately. Now I'd lke to be able to use the same user-specific url that's included in the welcome email for people to access their account, instead of the generic gen info page url. that is the default in the footer. ie: not simply %(_internal_name)s but %(internal_name)s/%(whatever_the_heck_this_user_specific_variable_is)s I don't have access to any of the config files as this is on a hosted account. Anything I can do here? Thanks Vince --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 6/2/2004 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Configuring Links
Hey All, This is my first post here, I'm setting up my mailing list as part of the cpanel add-on through my hosting company. In their TOS it's required that all mailing lists require that emails have unsubscribe links not reply emails. I've been searching the python site for about 2 hours looking for an answer and can't find one. Please give me a hand someone. Thanks so much. Vince Kronlein -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Redhat9 mailman + postfix permissions problem
I'm running redhat9 with postfix as the MTA and mailman installed with tweaks that I picked up in the FAQ and the mailman postfix howto posted to the list at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-September/022370.html My mm_cfg.py contains the following: MAILMAN_USER = 'mailman' MAILMAN_GROUP = 'mailman' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'myhost.domain.here' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'myhost.domain.here' MTA='Postfix' Works great other than the list creation aborts out due to a permission problem in running '/usr/sbin/postalias /var/mailman/data/aliases' after the aliases file has the pertinent entries added. I know it's trivial to log in and run the postalias command as root, but has anybody solved this problem with sudo or the like so that the whole list creation mechanism can happen via the web interface ? Any help would be appreciated... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Connexion by Boeing - Cabin Network -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Redhat9 mailman + postfix permissions problem
Fixed. When you run 'rmlist' as root, it alters the permissions on aliases to root:mailman and root's usually more restrictive umask. Setting it to mailman:mailman and 0664 as per the FAQ section 6.9 took care of things. Thanks to Dan Phillips for the reminder... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Connexion by Boeing - Cabin Network -Original Message- From: Skahan, Vince Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 7:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] Redhat9 mailman + postfix permissions problem I'm running redhat9 with postfix as the MTA and mailman installed with tweaks that I picked up in the FAQ and the mailman postfix howto posted to the list at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-September/022370.html My mm_cfg.py contains the following: MAILMAN_USER = 'mailman' MAILMAN_GROUP = 'mailman' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'myhost.domain.here' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'myhost.domain.here' MTA='Postfix' Works great other than the list creation aborts out due to a permission problem in running '/usr/sbin/postalias /var/mailman/data/aliases' after the aliases file has the pertinent entries added. I know it's trivial to log in and run the postalias command as root, but has anybody solved this problem with sudo or the like so that the whole list creation mechanism can happen via the web interface ? Any help would be appreciated... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Connexion by Boeing - Cabin Network -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/vince.skahan%40boeing.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive link only gives /pipermail/
On Thu, 15 May 2003, Fran Lawas-Grodek wrote: } I am also experiencing the same problem that Chris reported on } May 6, 2003: } } I've upgraded my old 2.0.13 list to 2.1.1 from Debin/testing. } All is working fine except that the link to the archives is } just /pipermail/. Shouldn't this be /pipermail/list/? I too am having this problem. I upgraded from 2.1.1 to 2.1.2 and my public archives have the link /archive/ instead of /archive/list/. When manually typing the right URL in, the page comes up, so I know the index.html file is being genrated. Private archives are ok too - this is just happening on the public archives. Heh...I just now noticed this on another MailMan server I run that went from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1 a while back [only one public list, with only 3 messages in the archive, so i completely forgot about checking it until now]. In both cases, visiting http://www.foo.bar/archive/list/ manually works fine, but the link from the admin page and the listinfo page both lead to http://www.foo.bar/archive/ Any tips on what to try? Thanks, /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport A)bort, R)etry, I)nfluence with large hammer. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/mailmanctl start
On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Jon Carnes wrote: Try installing every rpm from your distribution that has python in it. For Mandrake 9.1 I posted a message last month that pointed to all the rpm's that needed to be loaded. Mdk 9.0 probably has similar requirements. FWIW, I had the same problem [mdk 9.1, mailman 2.1.2]. I was not able to get mailmanctl to run using the RPMs listed in that e.mail. I have python installed via RPM, and that is/was my problem. I did not remove the python [2.2.2] RPM, since it would break other stuff, however, i simply compiled python from source, installing it into /usr/local/bin, and then made sure that when I compiled Mailman, I pointed it to the non-RPM install of python 2.2.2. I also changed my mm_cfg.py to make sure it uses the /usr/local/bin version of python. Also note, I was on Mandrake 8.2, with Mailman 2.1.1 [source compile]. When I upgraded to 9.1, I decided to also upgrade to 2.1.2 of mailman. After the initial problem, I removed all traces of mailman 2.1.2 and tried installing 2.1.1 on my 9.1 box, and it failed for the same reason. Compiling python from source was quite simple, as the only thing one needs to make sure of is that it will be built in a /usr/local/* directory structure so that it doesn't break any applications in Mandrake 9.1 that need the python RPM install. HTH, /vjl/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/mailmanctl start
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 03:45 PM, Jon Carnes wrote: Cool. The difference between our installs seems to be that I installed MDK9.1 from scratch. I keep a separate /home partition to let me do that easily - as I don't like the bugs that sometimes creep in via upgrades. Actually, I also did a 9.1 from scratch. I had 8.2, backed up all my important data, and did an 'install' of 9.1, repartitioning my drives at the same time. I also avoid doing 'upgrade' installs for the very same reason [oddities creep in]. I had, at one point, also installed Ximian Gnome which gave me even more reason to do a fresh install of 9.1. I did however restore my /home/mailman directory [which is where, on 8.2, i had mailman installed]. I was thinking that all I needed to do was restore my mailman user's crontab entries and all would be ok [since all of mailman's executables are in /home/mailman]. When mailman didn't want to start, that's when I went to go grab 2.1.1 and found that 2.1.2 was available. Grabbed that, installed it [backing up /home/mailman first] a few different times - installed it with my old lists in place, installed it in a /home/mailman2 directory [empty], etc. I read the mailman archives and followed your advice about installing a bunch of python-related RPMs, and even that didn't work. I finally decided to use the source. Glad to hear you got it going. Installing Python from source makes plenty of sense. Yeah, though it took me a while to think of that [doh!] /vjl/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unique web interface for all the lists
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 06:27 AM, Jose Antonio Gómez Muñoz wrote: I have a lot of users, and the most of them will subscribe to some diferent lists. I would like a unique web interface with check buttons and a submit button to subscribe in only one time to some different lists. All lists are moderated. Ideas? Is there a application for this? If I understand you correctly, you want one w3 [web] page that lists all mailman mailing lists, with an empty checkbox next to each list. The user would type in their e.mail address at the top of the w3 page and checkmark each list they want to subscribe to, and then click a submit button to subscribe to a bunch of lists all at the same time. What you would need to do is create a separate w3 page that contained a form. Using the checkbox form element, you would assign a mailto: command for each list [eg: if you have a list: [EMAIL PROTECTED], the form would send a subscribe request to the proper subscribe address for that list if a checkbox was filled out]. If you created this form, there are some safety issues to consider: 1) without using javascript, make sure that the form is completely filled in - make sure that the person filling out the form has put their address in the form. 2) make sure all lists are set to 'confirm' when a subscribe request has been made. Otherwise some trouble maker will put their friend's e.mail address on the form, and checkmark all the lists to subscribe his friend to a ton of lists. Mailman has a setting that allows this to not happen - each subscription request, using the 'confirm' setting, is sent back to the requestor asking them to reply to the message to confirm that the user wants to subscribe. If the user replies to the confirm message, then and only then are they subscribed. To create a form like I describe above, I would use PHP [though perl and python would work too - i just use PHP for most of my w3 programming, so i am a bit biased]. I can send you and/or the list a small sample of how I would create the above form, if you're interested. /vjl/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and home pages
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist wrote: } One way is a redirect. } goto your ServerRoot as defined in httpd.conf } create an index.html containing something like } } html } META HTTP-EQUIV=refresh CONTENT=1;URL=http://lists.domain/mailman/admin/; } /html Even better would be to use something like this in your httpd.conf file: Redirect permanent /index.html http://www.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/ /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport Microsoft asks you where you want to go. UNIX gets you there. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] First-timer
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Luke Pascoe wrote: } line apps) _except_ that it won't send email. For example if I send an email } to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can watch it go through Exim, get piped to } /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman like it's supposed to, exim is happy that } the email is delivered, but I never get the email (I'm conf'd as the owner). Just to confirm, have you subscribed yourself to the mailman list? Even though you're the list owner, you don't receive e.mail on a list unless you're subscribed. I use postfix as my MTA, so this might not work for you, but typically, after editing my /etc/postfix/virtual, I restart postfix so that the virtual file can be re-read [i use 'newaliases' to reload just /etc/aliases, as a restart isn't needed in that case]. Also, just in case you haven't already, check the README.EXIM file to make sure any MTA specific stuff needs to be done. /vjl/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] logging who accesses a private archive?
Hi all, Is there anyway to log who logs in when accessing a private archive? Looking through my apache access_log file, I can tell what IP/hostname the folks who access the private archives are coming from, but other than that, I have no further details about the person. Since the authentication process doesn't use .htaccess, access_log doesn't contain the userid/password of the person logging in. I checked $prefix/logs and nothing about w3-access was contained in those log files. Any ideas? Thanks, /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport Warning: You are logged into reality as root... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] removing lists with spaces
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Staven Bruce wrote: } Last but not least, yesterday I created a list that had spaces in the name, } 'air quality alerts'. However, now I wish to delete it, and cannot. When I } use 'rmlist air quality alerts', it just comes back with the 'rmlist' help You may want to try: rmlist air\ quality\ alerts and see if that works. /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport You cannot preserve freedom by eliminating it. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] RE: removing lists with spaces
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Staven Bruce wrote: } That **seemed** to work, as when I ran rmlist, it gave me the standard } output, however, after completeing the remove, it was still there!, admin } links and adminpages! Any other ideas? Hmmm...I'm not sure why that didn't work. You might try renaming the list w/o spaces and then deleting it. Spaces are not good characters to use in a UNIX environment. } Also, I've figured out you can use - dashes in a List Name, but still no } word on _ underscores or spaces. Does anyone have any ideas? I would think underscores would work. Spaces will never work, as you can not have a space in an e.mail address. The name of the list is the first part of the e.mail address; eg: Mailman-users is a listname, and the addey is [EMAIL PROTECTED] An underscore is a legal character for e.mail addresses, so I'm not sure why MM doesn't want to use them. FWIW, dashes are easier to type [one doesn't have to use the shift key for a dash]. /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport Negotiations and love songs are often mistaken for one and the same. - Paul Simon -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] A non-text attachment was scrubbed...?
Hi all, After moving from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1, I'm seeing some strange attachment behavior. Someone sent out a 132kb attachment to 3 mailing lists. On the list I subscribe to, I received it fine. However, a digest user on one of the other lists received a message stating: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... and it listed a URL for the subscriber to view the attachment from. Both lists have a 300kb max message size limit, and the 132kb post is obviously under that. This attachment [a word document] is sent out once per month and there weren't any reports of problems prior to today [the last time it was posted, we were on 2.0.13]. Any way to turn this feature off? Many thanks, /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport _ _ _ ) Across the clouds I see my shadow fly )_ _ _(vj\o /_/_ | ) Out of the corner of my watering eye. [PF] ) -._/_/__] )_)`0 | -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] A non-text attachment was scrubbed...?
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: } Use MIME digest. Attachments can't properly be embedded in } plain text digest. The mailing list in question does use MIME: mime_is_default_digest is set to MIME, and the user on the list who is subscribed to the digest does NOT have plain checkmarked. Any other ideas? /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport You cannot preserve freedom by eliminating it. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_URL not being honored
It actually turned out that I needed to add: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/ucimail/' Apparently DEFAULT_URL is MM 2.0.x only, and isn't honored in 2.1.x. The DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST did not need to be set [using Defaults.py's defaults is/was fine]. This might be worth mentioning in the upgrade instructions [there's also an item in the upgrade docs that's out of order - should i submit a 'bug' on sourceforge for the documentation error [i'll be a lot more specific in the bug report, but i'm not sure if documentation errors are worthy of being put into the bug tracking system, so i wanted to ask first]. Thanks, /vjl/ On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Bill Hilburn wrote: } } My mm_cfg-py reads: (2.1b5) } } DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.frontier.net' } add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) } } Note the add_virtualhost, not sure if you need this in yous or not. } } Also, you may need to run fix_url.py to update your list db files. } } Hope This Helps! } } } Quoting Vince LaMonica [EMAIL PROTECTED]: } } Hi all, } } On Feb 16th, I upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1 and have just noticed that } the value of DEFAULT_URL in mm_cfg.py, which is: } } DEFAULT_URL = 'https://www.seweb.uci.edu/ucimail/' } } is not being honored in the footers on the listinfo and admin pages. } } Eg: if you visit: } } https://www.seweb.uci.edu/ucimail/listinfo/clsgrads } } You'll notice at the bottom of the page the Overview link points to } http://www.seweb.uci.edu/mailman/listinfo which is not where the listinfo } page is located [it is located at } https://www.seweb.uci.edu/ucimail/listinfo]. } } Also, on the listinfo page, http://www.seweb.uci.edu/ucimail/listinfo it } lists the admin page as: http://www.seweb.uci.edu/mailman/admin which is } also not true. } } Is there another option in mm_cfg.py that needs to change? } } Thanks for any advice you might have. } } /vjl/ } } -- } Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology } W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 } [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport } } Warning: You are logged into reality as root... } } -- } Mailman-Users mailing list } [EMAIL PROTECTED] } http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users } Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py } Searchable Archives: } http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ } } This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Unsubscribe or change your options at } http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bhilburn%40frontier.net } } } } } Bill Hilburn } NOC Frontier Internet } } - } This mail sent through frontier.net webmail service! } } } -- } Mailman-Users mailing list } [EMAIL PROTECTED] } http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users } Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py } Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ } } This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Unsubscribe or change your options at } http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/vjl%40soceco.uci.edu } -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking -Marc MERLIN -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Example of bad line break in subject header
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 06:52 AM, Mitchell Marks wrote: Thank you for these patches. They didn't yet solve the problem. However, I think I can clarify the circumstances under which it occurs. It seems to be not the list settings (for Language or Personalization) which matter, but the message's original type. Specifically, I'm seeing the problem when the message is text/html when it arrives. (MM is sending it back out as multipart/mixed). These messages do not generally have any hi-bit or encoded characters in their Subjects. We're seeing that problem here as well, though I've confirmed it has happened with text/plain as the content type [as sent out by MM]. I upgraded MM from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1 on the 16th of Feb, just before NOW reported the problem to MM-users. Unfortunately most of our users use Eudora [5.1.1 or 5.2 under win2k]. Some have HTML mail enabled, others don't. I usually use Pine [though sometimes OS X mail], and haven't seen the problem viewing mail from either of those MUAs. So far, the problem has affected all of our 30+ lists, as some folks seem to have the habit of making really long subjects. I've already hand-entered all of the users' real names into the list rosters, so I would hate to move back to 2.0.13 as that feature was not available. I have a development box that I can put MM on and test out if anyone has other patches that might be worth trying. Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks, /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport This is like losing a game by forfeit when your team was ahead with the bases loaded and your best batter on deck. - Rep. John Conyers, on the DOJ agreeing to settle with Microsoft -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MailMan with Apache: error attempt to invokedirectory as script
On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Johannes Posel wrote: } Ok, I changed httpd.conf, restarted Apache, but still the same error } : Ok, make sure you're surfing to: http://www.yourdomain.org/mailman/listinfo or http://www.yourdomain.org/mailman/admin If you don't specify 'listinfo' or 'admin' after '/mailman/' you'll get the error you're seeing. Let me know if that helps, /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.seweb.uci.edu/~vjl _ _ _ ) Across the clouds I see my shadow fly )_ _ _(vj\o /_/_ | ) Out of the corner of my watering eye. [PF] ) -._/_/__] )_)`0 | -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
