Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup and restore

[Mark Sapiro]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I need to backup the settings from one mailing list on one domain and  
>restore those settings on another domain(same server.) How does one  
>achieve that?


I'm not sure what you really want to do.

If you just want to move the list from one domain to another, assuming
this is standard Mailman and not something like cPanel with 'true
virtual domains', just run fix_url on the list to change the domain,
and depending on how your MTA handles virtual domains, you may need to
change something there too.

To actually backup and restore settings, use 'bin/config_list -o 
' to write the configuration to  and then
'bin/config_list -i   to apply them to another list,
but you may want to remove some of the settings (e.g. real_name) from
 before applying it to .

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[Mailman-Users] Backup and restore

[rich]

I need to backup the settings from one mailing list on one domain and  
restore those settings on another domain(same server.) How does one  
achieve that?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] backup lists

[Patrick Bogen]

On 6/21/07, Alexandros Fragkiadakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sorry if this question has been asked before. How can i backup my lists
> and their configuration options?

Searching the FAQ for 'backup' reveals FAQ 4.18
,
"4.18. How do I backup my lists and their configurations/membership
rosters?"

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[Mailman-Users] backup lists

[Alexandros Fragkiadakis]

hi all,

sorry if this question has been asked before. How can i backup my lists
and their configuration options?

Regards,

Alexandros


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup Mailman

[Patrick Bogen]

On 8/11/06, Hung Phan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I sorry if this posts here before. Did a search for backing up
> Mailman but most of the post are using scripts. Is there any way to
> backup it manually/using GUI program?

I don't believe there's any way to do it through the web interface,
and I don't believe that Mailman officially supports any GUI
frontends.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'manually'- the various shell scripts
provided by the FAQ are about as manual as you can get.

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[Mailman-Users] Backup Mailman

[Hung Phan]

I sorry if this posts here before. Did a search for backing up  
Mailman but most of the post are using scripts. Is there any way to  
backup it manually/using GUI program?




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup of List

[Mark Sapiro]

Fred Atkinson wrote:

>One of my list managers asked if there was a way to back up and restore
>the email/contents of his list.


archives/private/listname* and lists/listname.

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[Mailman-Users] Backup of List

[Fred Atkinson]

One of my list managers asked if there was a way to back up and restore
the email/contents of his list.

Can you tell me how/if that can be done?

I heard someone say that it is.

Regards,




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[Mailman-Users] Backup recommendations...

[Jon D. Slater]

So I've just implement a backup solution that uses "rsync" to backup my 
users accounts to a remote server (works great).

What should I be backing up from Mailman? 

Where do the MailMan files live?

And, in the event of a drive failure, can I just copy the files back 
from my backup machine?

Thanks in advance!

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[Mailman-Users] backup/restore for mailman advice

[lkolchin]

Hello All,
 
I'd like to ask you bout your backup/restore policy and tools concerning 
mailman DB.
 
What are the recommended ways to backup mailman DB and for what files and ways 
to restore them in case of the disaster?
 
Please send your recommendation/scripts for that matter.
 
Best Regards,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup

[Staven Bruce]

Thanks John and David, you got me in the right direction and I got what I
wanted!

-Original Message-
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To: Staven Bruce
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup


On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 11:02 -0700, Staven Bruce wrote:
> I know this topic pops up fairly regularly, however I was unable to find
an
> answer to my specific question going through the archives and the FAQ's. I
> want to create a script that will output to a file a list of all
subscribers
> e-mail addresses,  the list they subscribe to, and their associated
> password. However, the issues I have run into are as follows:
> 
> -- The standard script that requires nmh at
> <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.006.htp>
uses
> the /var/lib/mailman directory which does not exist in my installation of
> Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Enterprise 3.0.

No big deal, just edit the script and change the directory.

> -- I can get list membership addresses using the
> /var/mailman/bin/list_members script, however I have to specifcy each list
> individually and I can not receive the password. In addition, I would have
> to change the script everytime a new list was created.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions on scripting this functionality?  

mm_bin=/usr/lib/mailman/bin
for list in `$mm_bin/list_lists -b`
do
   echo $list
   $mm_bin/list_members $list
done

You can always get fancier by using with_list which would give you more
control over what gets printed, but that requires some python coding
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup

[dave]

On Tue, 3 May 2005, Staven Bruce wrote:

> I know this topic pops up fairly regularly, however I was unable to find an
> answer to my specific question going through the archives and the FAQ's. I
> want to create a script that will output to a file a list of all subscribers
> e-mail addresses,  the list they subscribe to, and their associated
> password. However, the issues I have run into are as follows:
>
> -- The standard script that requires nmh at
>  uses
> the /var/lib/mailman directory which does not exist in my installation of
> Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Enterprise 3.0.
>
> -- I can get list membership addresses using the
> /var/mailman/bin/list_members script, however I have to specifcy each list
> individually and I can not receive the password. In addition, I would have
> to change the script everytime a new list was created.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on scripting this functionality?

Seeing how you can get subscribers email from list_members and lists they're
subscribed to from list_lists, we'll leave this as nothing but a scripting
exercise.

Once that's done, you only need get the password for users which can be
gotten from running dumpdb again config.pck of each list and grep -w 
on the email address.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup

[John Dennis]

On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 11:02 -0700, Staven Bruce wrote:
> I know this topic pops up fairly regularly, however I was unable to find an
> answer to my specific question going through the archives and the FAQ's. I
> want to create a script that will output to a file a list of all subscribers
> e-mail addresses,  the list they subscribe to, and their associated
> password. However, the issues I have run into are as follows:
> 
> -- The standard script that requires nmh at
>  uses
> the /var/lib/mailman directory which does not exist in my installation of
> Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Enterprise 3.0.

No big deal, just edit the script and change the directory.

> -- I can get list membership addresses using the
> /var/mailman/bin/list_members script, however I have to specifcy each list
> individually and I can not receive the password. In addition, I would have
> to change the script everytime a new list was created.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions on scripting this functionality?  

mm_bin=/usr/lib/mailman/bin
for list in `$mm_bin/list_lists -b`
do
   echo $list
   $mm_bin/list_members $list
done

You can always get fancier by using with_list which would give you more
control over what gets printed, but that requires some python coding
ability.
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[Mailman-Users] Backup

[Staven Bruce]

I know this topic pops up fairly regularly, however I was unable to find an
answer to my specific question going through the archives and the FAQ's. I
want to create a script that will output to a file a list of all subscribers
e-mail addresses,  the list they subscribe to, and their associated
password. However, the issues I have run into are as follows:

-- The standard script that requires nmh at
 uses
the /var/lib/mailman directory which does not exist in my installation of
Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Enterprise 3.0.

-- I can get list membership addresses using the
/var/mailman/bin/list_members script, however I have to specifcy each list
individually and I can not receive the password. In addition, I would have
to change the script everytime a new list was created.

Does anyone have any suggestions on scripting this functionality?  
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[Mailman-Users] Backup

[Jason]

Last question I promise.  If I was to just backup the entire mailman directory 
including the subdirectories and ever need to restore the lists on another 
system will I be able to just copy all the mailman files to the new system and 
have all the lists be restored.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup mailman, sending to a new server

[Jim Tittsler]

On Jan 11, 2005, at 08:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do I backup mailman and bring it over? I'm using cpanel and it 
doesn't
make a backup of mailman. I can't run any of the scripts that have been
If you don't have access to the filesystem, you won't be able to move 
the contents of the lists directory.

You could resort to scripting a local machine to visit the 
administrator's web interface and copy all of the subscribers (and 
their settings), and then upload them to your new server.  Some 
examples of this type of scripting are available at:
  http://starship.python.net/crew/jwt/mailman/#throughtheweb
This only requires that your local machine have Python installed, and 
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[Mailman-Users] Backup mailman, sending to a new server

[erik]

Hi, looking through the archives, I'm really surprised this hasn't come up
sooner.

I don't have access to the command line on the server that's running
mailman now. Only web interface. I'm moving to a new server where I have
access to everything.

How do I backup mailman and bring it over? I'm using cpanel and it doesn't
make a backup of mailman. I can't run any of the scripts that have been
listed here, especially since half of them want software that isn't
installed on the old server.

I'm really surprised that there is no "Backup list to file" and "Restore
list from file" option in the mailman web interface. Even if I did have
access to the mailman files, I've found that I've had to re-install half
of my software to get it working correctly on the new server, then I'd
load from database files all the data.

I'm not sure what to do now. I could ask all my members to re-subscribe,
but that doesn't feel right.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup user list

[Mark Dadgar]

On Sep 4, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 11:17 AM -0700 2004-09-04, fredimac wrote:
 Is there a way to backup the user list in Mailman?
	See  
.

	Try list_members.
That is, unfortunately, only a partial solution as list_members has no  
way of including the subscriber's list options.

This would be a good enhancement for MM3, although if MM3 has a  
heavier-duty datastore, this problem may solve itself.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup user list

[Brad Knowles]

At 11:17 AM -0700 2004-09-04, fredimac wrote:
 Is there a way to backup the user list in Mailman?
See .
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[Mailman-Users] Backup user list

[fredimac]

Greetings,

Is there a way to backup the user list in Mailman?  

Thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup Mailing List

[Brad Knowles]

At 4:59 PM -0300 2004-08-12, gus wrote:
 Use the command-line tools detailed at
 .
 What is the command for backup
	Well, from the descriptions on this page, I'd say that 
list_members should be the program you want to run to get a list of 
all the subscribers.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup Mailing List

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Brad Knowles wrote:
At 5:19 PM -0600 2004-08-11, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I own a mailing list of 8400 members. How do I back up the list in a
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Use the command-line tools detailed at 
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What is the command for backup
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup Mailing List

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:19 PM -0600 2004-08-11, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I own a mailing list of 8400 members. How do I back up the list in a
 comma separated file?
	Use the command-line tools detailed at 
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Hi,
I own a mailing list of 8400 members. How do I back up the list in a comma separated 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] backup of membership list in Mailman

[Brad Knowles]

At 12:12 PM -0400 2004-06-30, John Calabria wrote:
 how can I backup the member list to a file?  can it be exported
 into outlook, a comma delimited file?
	See 
 
and look at the command "list_members".

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[Mailman-Users] backup of membership list in Mailman

[John Calabria]

Hello,

how can I backup the member list to a file?  can it be exported
into outlook, a comma delimited file?   

thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup / Recover of Lists or mailman application.

[Kai Schaetzl]

Ruben Franco wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:05:16 -0600:

> So does the "lists" sub-directory contain data for each individual list
> including rosters and digests?
>

you mean archives? They are in the archives directory. Just have a look at 
your mailman directory. It's all quite clean and neatly arranged and 
should be self-explaining. As for the members of the list, it looks like 
they are in the lists directory as well. Probably in the config.pck. When 
I last cloned a mailing list by copying the directory I got all the 
members with it, so they must be there as well.


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Backup / Recover of Lists or mailman application.

[Franco, Ruben]

So does the "lists" sub-directory contain data for each individual list including 
rosters and digests?

Ruben



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Ruben Franco wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:11:46 -0600:

> In the event of the corruption of an individual list or loss of the
> entire Mailman server, are there any tips for recovery for either
> individual lists or for restoration the entire mailman application from
> a tape backup?   Are there any specific directories or files that need
> to be restore to recover an individual list from backup?
>

for backing up lists: /usr/local/mailman/lists
for the whole installation: /usr/local/mailman
assuming it's installed to the standard path.
It's really easy!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup / Recover of Lists or mailman application.

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Ruben Franco wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:11:46 -0600:

> In the event of the corruption of an individual list or loss of the
> entire Mailman server, are there any tips for recovery for either
> individual lists or for restoration the entire mailman application from
> a tape backup?   Are there any specific directories or files that need
> to be restore to recover an individual list from backup?
>

for backing up lists: /usr/local/mailman/lists
for the whole installation: /usr/local/mailman
assuming it's installed to the standard path.
It's really easy!


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[Mailman-Users] Backup / Recover of Lists or mailman application.

[Franco, Ruben]

In the event of the corruption of an individual list or loss of the entire Mailman 
server, are there any tips for recovery for either individual lists or for restoration 
the entire mailman application from a tape backup?   Are there any specific 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup

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On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 02:59, Jason Marty wrote:
> If I want to back up the list data on Mac OS X Panther Server does
> anyone know which files I need to copy?

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[Mailman-Users] backup membership list & options

[Ted Ernst]

I've tried to find my answer in the archives, but everything I've found refers to 
running scripts or locating specific directories and I'm quite lost on these matters.  
I use the mailman software that comes with my web hosting package.  I have no idea how 
to run a script, nor can I find a mailman directory anywhere, nor any mailman files.  
I can get to the mailman admin page for my list and I can see the list of subscribers 
with 20 or 30 to a page.  Thing is, I'd like to change web hosts and take my list with 
me.  How do I do this and preserve options (digest, etc)?  Thanks so much!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup script...

[Mark T. Valites]

I should have mentioned this before...

One thing I did notice is that you will loose all pending administrative 
tasks, but I'll bet you can use dumpdb to see which lists have pending 
tasks.

On Tuesday, November 27, 2001, at 11:09 AM, Phydeaux wrote:

> Thanks!
>
> reb
>
> At 10:54 AM 11/27/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>> I posted this once before for backing up archives, dbs, and keeping 
>> all user info, but it had one small bug.  The files in 
>> archives/private/* had the wrong permissions set.  A small change took 
>> care of that.  Also, the $person_to_nag_with_700_emails variable 
>> doesn't matter if you use the --output argument to bin/newlist.  If 
>> you are moving to a new machine name, you will also want to set things 
>> with config_list - I cannot stress how powerful a tool this can be!
>>
>> I think this will work for what you want, but of course this didn't 
>> fix my mailman woes :(
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 27, 2001, at 10:28 AM, Phydeaux wrote:
>>
>>> At 07:34 PM 11/26/2001 -0800, you wrote:
 At 21:49 -0500 11/26/2001, Phydeaux wrote:
> Using bin/list_lists I can get a list of the lists. I can then 
> easily cycle
> through each list and (for each one) do the following:
>
> - Run bin/config_list
> - Run bin/list_members (once for digested, once for regular members)
> - Copy the complete archive or at least the mbox file of the 
> archive.
>
> I can then tar the whole mess up and copy it to tape, etc. for a
> portable backup of my mailman installation.
>
> I have several questions. First, am I forgetting to copy anything?
> Will the above approach get me all the data I need to restore the
> system?

 I don't think the above has captured various user flags other than 
 digest
 vs regular.

 I believe a restore will not restore subscriber choices like 
 not-me-to,
 no-mail, hidden, and some others.
>>>
>>> True... so what is the best way to back things up? I'm loathe to just 
>>> back up
>>> the db files, as they can easily be modified while a tar is taking 
>>> place. Is that
>>> what everyone else is doing? Is there any facility for dumping user 
>>> config
>>> info? I must be missing something...
>>>
>>> reb
>>>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup script...

[Phydeaux]

At 10:38 AM 11/27/2001 -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
> P> Next, is there anything markedly different with v2.1 that would
> P> make this unworkable, unwise, or unnecessary?
>
>MM2.1 should have largely the same issues, except it'll have a long
>running daemon instead of cron-invoked qrunners, so at least that part
>will be easier to suspend during the backups.  And by default, MM2.1
>installs in /usr/local/mailman instead of /home/mailman.
>
>I wonder if it's worth putting blockers into MM2.1 to stop the cgi
>from mucking with config.pck (renamed from config.db)?  OTOH, it isn't
>Mailman's job to stop the MTA and that still should be done.

But -- once the message has gone to the MTA Mailman is done with it,!

A  method to easily stop Mailman from processing things for a time
is what I'm really looking for. I don't mind backing up everything I
just want to ensure that I do not get an inconsistent set of files by
doing so while the set of files is being written to. Having to stop
qrunner, sendmail and my web server seems a bit extreme.

Anything that can be done to stop qrunner and to not have to stop the
.cgi interface of the web server (ie a backup lock for Mailman) would
be great.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup script...

[Mark T. Valites]

I posted this once before for backing up archives, dbs, and keeping all 
user info, but it had one small bug.  The files in archives/private/* 
had the wrong permissions set.  A small change took care of that.  Also, 
the $person_to_nag_with_700_emails variable doesn't matter if you use 
the --output argument to bin/newlist.  If you are moving to a new 
machine name, you will also want to set things with config_list - I 
cannot stress how powerful a tool this can be!

I think this will work for what you want, but of course this didn't fix 
my mailman woes :(




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On Tuesday, November 27, 2001, at 10:28 AM, Phydeaux wrote:

> At 07:34 PM 11/26/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>> At 21:49 -0500 11/26/2001, Phydeaux wrote:
>>> Using bin/list_lists I can get a list of the lists. I can then easily 
>>> cycle
>>> through each list and (for each one) do the following:
>>>
>>> - Run bin/config_list
>>> - Run bin/list_members (once for digested, once for regular members)
>>> - Copy the complete archive or at least the mbox file of the archive.
>>>
>>> I can then tar the whole mess up and copy it to tape, etc. for a
>>> portable backup of my mailman installation.
>>>
>>> I have several questions. First, am I forgetting to copy anything?
>>> Will the above approach get me all the data I need to restore the
>>> system?
>>
>> I don't think the above has captured various user flags other than 
>> digest
>> vs regular.
>>
>> I believe a restore will not restore subscriber choices like not-me-to,
>> no-mail, hidden, and some others.
>
> True... so what is the best way to back things up? I'm loathe to just 
> back up
> the db files, as they can easily be modified while a tar is taking 
> place. Is that
> what everyone else is doing? Is there any facility for dumping user 
> config
> info? I must be missing something...
>
> reb
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup script...

[Barry A. Warsaw]

> "P" == Phydeaux  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

P> Using bin/list_lists I can get a list of the lists. I can then
P> easily cycle through each list and (for each one) do the
P> following:

P> - Run bin/config_list - Run bin/list_members (once for
P> digested, once for regular members) - Copy the complete archive
P> or at least the mbox file of the archive.

P> I can then tar the whole mess up and copy it to tape, etc. for
P> a portable backup of my mailman installation.

P> I have several questions. First, am I forgetting to copy
P> anything?  Will the above approach get me all the data I need
P> to restore the system?

I'd say it would be much easier to just backup all of $prefix,
e.g. /home/mailman.  Is that too much stuff to backup?  It's a bit
more than you need if you're willing to re-install the system, but it
has the advantage that it'll backup all the waiting messages in qfiles
too.

For absolute best results, I'd try to make sure that the qrunner was
quiescent and that no one could change the list config.db files while
you're backing up.  This means temporarily turning off qrunner
(through cron) and preventing the cgi scripts from running.  You may
even want to shut off your MTA so you don't get half written files in
the qfiles directory.

P> Next, is there anything markedly different with v2.1 that would
P> make this unworkable, unwise, or unnecessary?

MM2.1 should have largely the same issues, except it'll have a long
running daemon instead of cron-invoked qrunners, so at least that part
will be easier to suspend during the backups.  And by default, MM2.1
installs in /usr/local/mailman instead of /home/mailman.

I wonder if it's worth putting blockers into MM2.1 to stop the cgi
from mucking with config.pck (renamed from config.db)?  OTOH, it isn't
Mailman's job to stop the MTA and that still should be done.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup script...

[Phydeaux]

At 07:34 PM 11/26/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>At 21:49 -0500 11/26/2001, Phydeaux wrote:
>>Using bin/list_lists I can get a list of the lists. I can then easily cycle
>>through each list and (for each one) do the following:
>>
>>- Run bin/config_list
>>- Run bin/list_members (once for digested, once for regular members)
>>- Copy the complete archive or at least the mbox file of the archive.
>>
>>I can then tar the whole mess up and copy it to tape, etc. for a
>>portable backup of my mailman installation.
>>
>>I have several questions. First, am I forgetting to copy anything?
>>Will the above approach get me all the data I need to restore the
>>system?
>
>I don't think the above has captured various user flags other than digest
>vs regular.
>
>I believe a restore will not restore subscriber choices like not-me-to,
>no-mail, hidden, and some others.

True... so what is the best way to back things up? I'm loathe to just back up
the db files, as they can easily be modified while a tar is taking place. Is that
what everyone else is doing? Is there any facility for dumping user config
info? I must be missing something...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup script...

[John W Baxter]

At 21:49 -0500 11/26/2001, Phydeaux wrote:
>Using bin/list_lists I can get a list of the lists. I can then easily cycle
>through each list and (for each one) do the following:
>
>- Run bin/config_list
>- Run bin/list_members (once for digested, once for regular members)
>- Copy the complete archive or at least the mbox file of the archive.
>
>I can then tar the whole mess up and copy it to tape, etc. for a
>portable backup of my mailman installation.
>
>I have several questions. First, am I forgetting to copy anything?
>Will the above approach get me all the data I need to restore the
>system?

I don't think the above has captured various user flags other than digest
vs regular.

I believe a restore will not restore subscriber choices like not-me-to,
no-mail, hidden, and some others.

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[Mailman-Users] Backup script...

[Phydeaux]

There have been questions here of late regarding backups.

Using bin/list_lists I can get a list of the lists. I can then easily cycle
through each list and (for each one) do the following:

- Run bin/config_list
- Run bin/list_members (once for digested, once for regular members)
- Copy the complete archive or at least the mbox file of the archive.

I can then tar the whole mess up and copy it to tape, etc. for a
portable backup of my mailman installation.

I have several questions. First, am I forgetting to copy anything?
Will the above approach get me all the data I need to restore the
system?

Next, is there anything markedly different with v2.1 that would
make this unworkable, unwise, or unnecessary?

Finally, has anyone written such a script (or a similar one) so I don't
have to reinvent the wheel?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup your system - it's important.

[Oliver Egginger]

Thanks,

I think the best way for a backup is to backup mailmans data self.
Extract all members, extract lists coniguration via "config_list".
If the MM DB became corropted, it should be easy to recover
it. 


regards
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> Just a reminder, but it is important to backup your Mailman files on a
> regular basis.
>
> The key files to backup are the list info and the archive info.  Backing up
> the ~mailman home directory will get it all.
>   tar -czf mailman_bak.tar.gz ~mailman
>
> You might also consider backing up the config file for your web browser,
> while you are at it.
>   tar -rzf mailman_bak.tar.gz /etc/httpd/conf
>
> Yes, I know that this is the most obvious message, but we have had a lot of
> recent messages about recovering corrupted installs, and the best method is
> to restore from backup.
>
> Jon Carnes
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[Mailman-Users] Backup your system - it's important.

[Jon Carnes]

Just a reminder, but it is important to backup your Mailman files on a 
regular basis.

The key files to backup are the list info and the archive info.  Backing up 
the ~mailman home directory will get it all.
  tar -czf mailman_bak.tar.gz ~mailman

You might also consider backing up the config file for your web browser, 
while you are at it.
  tar -rzf mailman_bak.tar.gz /etc/httpd/conf
 
Yes, I know that this is the most obvious message, but we have had a lot of 
recent messages about recovering corrupted installs, and the best method is 
to restore from backup.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup subscribers and settings

[Rodolfo Pilas]

El Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:11:56 +0200
Tjalling Kikkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha escrito:

> On 18-09-2001 19:55 Rodolfo Pilas wrote:

> > Is there are any way to backup subscribed users and setting of a mail
> > list?

> Try ./list_members name_of_list in mailman. All addresses will be sent
> to
> standard out, ./list_members -o file_to_write_addresses_to name_of_list
> and
> you're there.. :-)

You are right!   With the attached two scripts you can obtain a complete
tgz of the mailserver configuration.
This backup is to be run one time a day.

Of course it is very simple; in Python somebody can do something better
but I do not know python.  I sent this idea and scripts to
mailman-developers to the Mailman hackers.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup subscribers and settings

[J C Lawrence]

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:55:22 -0300 
Rodolfo Pilas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there are any way to backup subscribed users and setting of a
> mail list?

~/bin/config_list

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[Mailman-Users] Backup subscribers and settings

[Rodolfo Pilas]

Is there are any way to backup subscribed users and setting of a mail
list?

(into a way that I can restore it if something happens with my server)


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