Re: [Mailman-Users] Extreme Slow delivery of messages

2008-10-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
faisal anif wrote:

here's the SMTP log:

for 49194 recips, completed in 49.745 seconds
is this a good thing? do I have to change anything in mailman?


Mailman has completed delivery to exim of the message for the 49194
recipients in under a minute at a rate of about 100 recipients per
second. That seems reasonable and certainly wouldn't result by itself
in significant delay to the recipients.

So the question now is when was this log entry written relative to when
the post was sent. If the entry was written within a minute or two of
the post's being sent (or approved), there were no significant delays
in Mailman and you need to look to exim and beyond.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Extreme Slow delivery of messages

2008-10-20 Thread faisal anif

here's the SMTP log:
 
for 49194 recips, completed in 49.745 seconds
is this a good thing? do I have to change anything in mailman?
 
Thanks
 
 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:37:09 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Extreme 
 Slow delivery of messages  faisal anif wrote:   I've recently purchased 
 a dedicated server (P4 2.4, 1 GB RAM) with Cpanel/WHM .. I created a list 
 with cpanel but noticed that exim is extremely slow in delivering the 
 messages to the list although I changed the following settings in WHM:   
 The maximum each domain can send out per hour (0 is unlimited) = 0   
 Number of minutes between mail server queue runs (default is 60) = 1   I 
 checked with the server's providers, there are no constraints on the outgoing 
 messages from the server.   what could the problem be?   Question 1 - 
 is the delay in SMTP from Mailman to exim or is the delay between exim and 
 the remote MTA's?  Look in mailman's smtp log for messages like  Oct 17 
 09:47:08 2008 (30746) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to g
 pc-website for 23 recips, completed in 0.396 seconds  The above is a VERP'd 
delivery, so it represents 23 separate SMTP transactions in 0.396 seconds. If 
your delivery is an order of magnitude or more slower than this, see the FAQ 
at http://wiki.list.org/x/doA9.  If the delay is between exim and the 
remote MTA's, this is an exim question, not a Mailman one, but the FAQ at 
http://wiki.list.org/x/qoA9 may help.  --  Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Extreme Slow delivery of messages

2008-10-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote:

faisal anif wrote:

here's the SMTP log:

for 49194 recips, completed in 49.745 seconds
is this a good thing? do I have to change anything in mailman?


Mailman has completed delivery to exim of the message for the 49194
recipients in under a minute at a rate of about 100 recipients per
second.


Ooops... That should be 1000 recipients per second.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Extreme Slow delivery of messages

2008-10-19 Thread faisal anif

I've created the list using Cpanel .. shouldn't these settings between mailman 
and exim be configured with Cpanel already ??
 
Thanks..
 
 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:37:09 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Extreme 
 Slow delivery of messages  faisal anif wrote:   I've recently purchased 
 a dedicated server (P4 2.4, 1 GB RAM) with Cpanel/WHM .. I created a list 
 with cpanel but noticed that exim is extremely slow in delivering the 
 messages to the list although I changed the following settings in WHM:   
 The maximum each domain can send out per hour (0 is unlimited) = 0   
 Number of minutes between mail server queue runs (default is 60) = 1   I 
 checked with the server's providers, there are no constraints on the outgoing 
 messages from the server.   what could the problem be?   Question 1 - 
 is the delay in SMTP from Mailman to exim or is the delay between exim and 
 the remote MTA's?  Look in mailman's smtp log for messages like  Oct 17 
 09:47:08 2008 (30746) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to g
 pc-website for 23 recips, completed in 0.396 seconds  The above is a VERP'd 
delivery, so it represents 23 separate SMTP transactions in 0.396 seconds. If 
your delivery is an order of magnitude or more slower than this, see the FAQ 
at http://wiki.list.org/x/doA9.  If the delay is between exim and the 
remote MTA's, this is an exim question, not a Mailman one, but the FAQ at 
http://wiki.list.org/x/qoA9 may help.  --  Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Extreme Slow delivery of messages

2008-10-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
faisal anif erote:

I've created the list using Cpanel .. shouldn't these settings between mailman 
and exim be configured with Cpanel already ??


See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9. We have no idea what
cPanel does or doesn't do.


Question 1 - is the delay in SMTP from Mailman to exim or is the delay 
between exim and the remote MTA's?  Look in mailman's smtp log for messages 
like  Oct 17 09:47:08 2008 (30746) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to g
 pc-website for 23 recips, completed in 0.396 seconds  The above is a 
 VERP'd delivery, so it represents 23 separate SMTP transactions in 0.396 
 seconds. If your delivery is an order of magnitude or more slower than this, 
 see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/doA9.  If the delay is between 
 exim and the remote MTA's, this is an exim question, not a Mailman one, but 
 the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/qoA9 may help.


If you want further help from this list, please confirm that SMTP
delivery from Mailman to exim is the issue and post some Mailman smtp
log entries that show that.

If the delay is outbound from exim, you'd probably be better off
pursuing this on an exim list.

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[Mailman-Users] Extreme Slow delivery of messages

2008-10-17 Thread faisal anif

Hello
 
I've recently purchased a dedicated server (P4 2.4, 1 GB RAM) with Cpanel/WHM 
.. I created a list with cpanel but noticed that exim is extremely slow in 
delivering the messages to the list  although I changed the following settings 
in WHM:
 
The maximum each domain can send out per hour (0 is unlimited) = 0
 
Number of minutes between mail server queue runs (default is 60) = 1
 
I checked with the server's providers, there are no constraints on the outgoing 
messages from the server.
 
what could the problem be?
 
Thanks
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Extreme Slow delivery of messages

2008-10-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
faisal anif wrote:
 
I've recently purchased a dedicated server (P4 2.4, 1 GB RAM) with Cpanel/WHM 
.. I created a list with cpanel but noticed that exim is extremely slow in 
delivering the messages to the list  although I changed the following settings 
in WHM:
 
The maximum each domain can send out per hour (0 is unlimited) = 0
 
Number of minutes between mail server queue runs (default is 60) = 1
 
I checked with the server's providers, there are no constraints on the 
outgoing messages from the server.
 
what could the problem be?


Question 1 - is the delay in SMTP from Mailman to exim or is the delay
between exim and the remote MTA's?

Look in mailman's smtp log for messages like

Oct 17 09:47:08 2008 (30746)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to gpc-website for
23 recips, completed in 0.396 seconds

The above is a VERP'd delivery, so it represents 23 separate SMTP
transactions in 0.396 seconds. If your delivery is an order of
magnitude or more slower than this, see the FAQ at
http://wiki.list.org/x/doA9.

If the delay is between exim and the remote MTA's, this is an exim
question, not a Mailman one, but the FAQ at
http://wiki.list.org/x/qoA9 may help.

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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

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