Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

[Bob Bales]

I found my problem. I use eTrust for firewall and other security products. I
turned off the firewall tonight and voila, the problem went away. So, now I
just have to try and figure out what in eTrust is stumping my butt. Thanks
to Mark and everybody else who tried to help.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

[Mark Sapiro]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>I think the only case where time is a problem is if the
>host sends me a cookie and then daylight saving time/summer time ends
>and I send the cookie containing the timestamp which is now later that
>the current host time.

On second thought, even that is not an issue as the timestamp is in UTC.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

[Mark Sapiro]

John W. Baxter wrote:

>On 11/10/05 9:12 AM, "Bob Bales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> 
>>> Your web browser is not accepting cookies.
>> 
>> Mark, I have cookies turned on in both IE6 and in Firefox. Or at least they
>> say they are on.
>
>Or the failing machine's clock is way off.  Did it forget about the end of
>daylight time, perhaps?

I don't think the clock on the machine running the web browser has any
effect no matter how far off it is. There is a 'timestamp' encoded in
the cookie, but this timestamp is created on the Mailman host machine
and then validated upon receipt back against the host machine's clock.
The client machine isn't even aware that the cookie contains a
timestamp. I think the only case where time is a problem is if the
host sends me a cookie and then daylight saving time/summer time ends
and I send the cookie containing the timestamp which is now later that
the current host time.

The original post in this thread seemed to say that this problem
affected all users, thus I said

>This is typically caused by not accepting cookies in your browser, but
>since it appears to be a global issue, it may have something to do
>with the server's sending/receiving of cookies.

Then in a followup, Bob said that he had the problem on his machine,
but not on his granddaughter's. Thus, it is clearly not a server level
issue, but must be a problem with the local machine. I think it must
be cookie related.

I suggest in IE6, go to Tools->Internet Options->Privacy->Sites and set
the mailman host domain to always allow cookies.

I don't know Firefox directly, but in Netscape 8 it would be under
Tools->Options->Site Controls and you have to be sure cookies are
enabled for the trust level of the mailman host domain.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

[John W. Baxter]

On 11/10/05 9:12 AM, "Bob Bales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2
> 
>> Your web browser is not accepting cookies.
> 
> Mark, I have cookies turned on in both IE6 and in Firefox. Or at least they
> say they are on.

Or the failing machine's clock is way off.  Did it forget about the end of
daylight time, perhaps?

  --John


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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

[Bob Bales]

- Original Message -
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

> Your web browser is not accepting cookies.

Mark, I have cookies turned on in both IE6 and in Firefox. Or at least they
say they are on.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

[Mark Sapiro]

Bob Bales wrote:

>Add to last post, I just went down to my grandaughters room and checked it
>out on her computer which is networked thru mine. And voila, everything
>works perfect. So, it has to be something local to mine. Now I just gotta
>figure out what.

Your web browser is not accepting cookies.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

[Bob Bales]

Add to last post, I just went down to my grandaughters room and checked it
out on her computer which is networked thru mine. And voila, everything
works perfect. So, it has to be something local to mine. Now I just gotta
figure out what.

Any ideas?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

[Bob Bales]

I have written about this before and still have the problems, I viewed the
posts that Mark sent me with no real luck. Mostly lack of understanding.

Mark suggested it could be server side. I went to my server and they can do
everything on their side with no problems at all.

Here's my problems:

When I go into any of the admin/mod panels I can mark a change but when I
click "submit" I am taken right back to the sign-in page, whereupon signing
back in the change was not made.

I was allowed to set up the mail list and do everything that I needed done,
but after that time I was locked out of being able to make any changes.

Anybody have the same problem, and what did you do about it. And I am below
novice level so type slowly and use small words, please. ;-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

[Mark Sapiro]

Bob Bales wrote:

>I am a novice at this, so be easy. I am running mailman for a friend of
>mine. I loaded it from the cpanel of the host. The message system seems to
>be working fine. The Admin Panel is giving me fits. I can sign in and make a
>change, when I press to submit the changes it takes me back to the sign in
>page, I re-sign in and the chnage has not taken place. Subscibers have the
>sane problem when they try to sitch from or to non-digets/digets. Anybody
>have some help out there? I'm pulling my hair out right now.

This is typically caused by not accepting cookies in your browser, but
since it appears to be a global issue, it may have something to do
with the server's sending/receiving of cookies.

Also see

and
.

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[Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

[Bob Bales]

I am a novice at this, so be easy. I am running mailman for a friend of
mine. I loaded it from the cpanel of the host. The message system seems to
be working fine. The Admin Panel is giving me fits. I can sign in and make a
change, when I press to submit the changes it takes me back to the sign in
page, I re-sign in and the chnage has not taken place. Subscibers have the
sane problem when they try to sitch from or to non-digets/digets. Anybody
have some help out there? I'm pulling my hair out right now.

Thanks,
Bob Bales
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