Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Address Format

[Barry Finkel]

"Carlos Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I was wondering why when something is sent to a mailman alias address
>is the actual email address manipulated to show a different non
>existing address.
>
>For example, I create a mailman group "everyone" so now people can
>email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and when the users get an email from that
>group, they see the following header info:
>
>Return Path = <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>X-Original-To = <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Delivered-To = <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>So when people see this, they attempt to send back to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and of course the email is rejected
>because that address does not exist. I as an email administrator
>understand how to read the header but most common users don't and
>almost always send to the wrong address. They become frustrated and
>annoyed with Mailman and want this fixed. I explain to them to not
>copy and paste the email address but rather to simply reply to all or
>reply to sender.
>
>Why does mailman do this? I don't understand the "bounce" parameter
>and or why it does not show its from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
>
>Thanks for any clarification or info on how to resolve this.

The address is set so that bounced mail will be sent back to the
-bounces address ,and Mailman can process the bounce according to the
bounce parameters configured for the list.

In the aliases file there should be a -bounces address for each list.
Here is what I have in the

 /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases

file on Ubuntu:

# STANZA START: mailman 
# CREATED: Fri Mar  9 14:35:32 2007
mailman: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
mailman-admin:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
mailman-bounces: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
mailman-confirm: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
mailman-join:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
mailman-leave:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
mailman-owner:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
mailman-request: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
mailman-subscribe:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
mailman-unsubscribe: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman"
# STANZA END: mailman

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Address Format

[Stefan Förster]

* Carlos Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why does mailman do this? I don't understand the "bounce" parameter
> and or why it does not show its from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

The "listname-bounce" localpart is used for automatic bounce
detection. Have a look at:



Bounce detection is an integral part of every mailing list managing
software: It allows users whose email addresses are not valid any
longer to be removed from the list without the need for a human being
to manually look at logfiles to determine this.


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Address Format

[Carlos Williams]

I was wondering why when something is sent to a mailman alias address
is the actual email address manipulated to show a different non
existing address.

For example, I create a mailman group "everyone" so now people can
email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and when the users get an email from that
group, they see the following header info:

Return Path = <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Original-To = <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To = <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So when people see this, they attempt to send back to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and of course the email is rejected
because that address does not exist. I as an email administrator
understand how to read the header but most common users don't and
almost always send to the wrong address. They become frustrated and
annoyed with Mailman and want this fixed. I explain to them to not
copy and paste the email address but rather to simply reply to all or
reply to sender.

Why does mailman do this? I don't understand the "bounce" parameter
and or why it does not show its from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

Thanks for any clarification or info on how to resolve this.

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