Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation action
Mark Sapiro napisał(a): > Dominika Tkaczyk wrote: >> >>What if I did as you suggested first, but instead of one filter rule that >>matches everything, there would be one filter rule for each address I want >>held (I assume that there won't be more than 4-5 such subscribers), and such >>a rule would match a From: header with that address, and of course action >>would be Hold? > > > Yes, I think that would work. You could have a separate rule for each > poster or just one rule with a separate regexp for each poster. Now I see, yes that will probably be a little simpler. I thought earlier that a rule has only one regexp. > In fact, you could then moderate everyone and set > default_member_moderation to Yes to simplify maintenance of moderation > because the header rule would apply to first hold the message and then > when the held message is approved, it wil bypass moderation. > > Note however that this wouldn't work if the header rule action was > accept because messages which are accepted by such a rule still go > through the additional checks. In this case, the posters would need to > have their moderate flags off. Thank you again for your help. Dominika -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation action
Dominika Tkaczyk wrote: > >What if I did as you suggested first, but instead of one filter rule that >matches everything, there would be one filter rule for each address I want >held (I assume that there won't be more than 4-5 such subscribers), and such >a rule would match a From: header with that address, and of course action >would be Hold? Yes, I think that would work. You could have a separate rule for each poster or just one rule with a separate regexp for each poster. In fact, you could then moderate everyone and set default_member_moderation to Yes to simplify maintenance of moderation because the header rule would apply to first hold the message and then when the held message is approved, it wil bypass moderation. Note however that this wouldn't work if the header rule action was accept because messages which are accepted by such a rule still go through the additional checks. In this case, the posters would need to have their moderate flags off. >Does it make any sense or you think it would be better to use the energy to >write a patch to the source code? I think it always makes sense to use existing configuration options if you can rather that patching the code, unless using the existing features is just too cumbersome which I don't think is the case here. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation action
Hello,
Mark Sapiro napisał(a):
> Patrick Bogen wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately, it looks like, since Moderate.py comes before anything
>>else, there's no really 'correct' way to do this.
>
>
> It doesn't come before SpamDetect which processes header_filter_rules,
> so your suggestion below won't work.
Thank you both for your answers.
What if I did as you suggested first, but instead of one filter rule that
matches everything, there would be one filter rule for each address I want
held (I assume that there won't be more than 4-5 such subscribers), and such
a rule would match a From: header with that address, and of course action
would be Hold?
Does it make any sense or you think it would be better to use the energy to
write a patch to the source code?
>>One option that ought to work, however, would be the following:
>>Moderate all users that you want rejected, and set
>>member_moderation_action to reject. Unmoderate the users you want
>>held. Add a header filter rule that matches on everything (something
>>like a single caret ('^') should suffice), and is set to Hold. I
>>haven't tested this, and I don't know if it will work or not.
>
Dominika
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation action
Patrick Bogen wrote: >On 12/1/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> It doesn't come before SpamDetect which processes header_filter_rules, >> so your suggestion below won't work. > >Indeed, this is correct. I think I failed at reading, since >Moderate.py isn't anything like the first in the pipeline. :/ I also wrote in another reply in this thread which seems stuck in a mail queue somewhere that the Approved: password header bypasses all tests except content filtering. This is not correct. It doesn't bypass header_filter_rules (unless you reorder the pipeline). -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation action
On 12/1/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick Bogen wrote: > > >Unfortunately, it looks like, since Moderate.py comes before anything > >else, there's no really 'correct' way to do this. > > > It doesn't come before SpamDetect which processes header_filter_rules, > so your suggestion below won't work. Indeed, this is correct. I think I failed at reading, since Moderate.py isn't anything like the first in the pipeline. :/ -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation action
Patrick Bogen wrote:
>Unfortunately, it looks like, since Moderate.py comes before anything
>else, there's no really 'correct' way to do this.
It doesn't come before SpamDetect which processes header_filter_rules,
so your suggestion below won't work.
>One option that ought to work, however, would be the following:
>Moderate all users that you want rejected, and set
>member_moderation_action to reject. Unmoderate the users you want
>held. Add a header filter rule that matches on everything (something
>like a single caret ('^') should suffice), and is set to Hold. I
>haven't tested this, and I don't know if it will work or not.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation action
On 11/30/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/30/06, Dominika Tkaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My second question is: does Mailman use any email authorization or it simply > > checks the From: header of messages? > Mailman only checks the From header, but it also looks for a special > 'Approved' header. To use this feature, include an 'Approved:' header > containing the list password (e.g., Approved: foobar), or include it > as the first line of the message. I should point out that this *does* bypass any type of member moderation. If a valid 'Approved:' header is included, then the message bypasses any of those filters. I don't know for sure /which/ filters it bypasses, but I would assume it bypasses all of them. (Can someone verify this assumption?) -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation action
On 11/30/06, Dominika Tkaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like my mailing list to have the following configuration: the
> messages from most of subscribers are rejected, and there are a few
> subscribers whose messages are hold for moderation. Is there any way to do
> so without changing the source code? Or maybe there are already some
> patches?
Unfortunately, it looks like, since Moderate.py comes before anything
else, there's no really 'correct' way to do this.
One option that ought to work, however, would be the following:
Moderate all users that you want rejected, and set
member_moderation_action to reject. Unmoderate the users you want
held. Add a header filter rule that matches on everything (something
like a single caret ('^') should suffice), and is set to Hold. I
haven't tested this, and I don't know if it will work or not.
This does seem like something that should be implemented in a more
reasonable manner, though, possibly with the addition of a
'default_member_action,' separate from moderation?
> My second question is: does Mailman use any email authorization or it simply
> checks the From: header of messages?
Mailman only checks the From header, but it also looks for a special
'Approved' header. To use this feature, include an 'Approved:' header
containing the list password (e.g., Approved: foobar), or include it
as the first line of the message. Note that the latter is a bit
dependent on how the message is constructed, so if your email client
handles HTML email weird, and you use that, it's possible that mailman
might miss the header. The handling should be pretty good, though, and
text-only emails should be pretty much foolproof.
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[Mailman-Users] Moderation action
Hello, I would like my mailing list to have the following configuration: the messages from most of subscribers are rejected, and there are a few subscribers whose messages are hold for moderation. Is there any way to do so without changing the source code? Or maybe there are already some patches? If I check the moderation checkbox for all subscribers, then I can set only one moderation action, but when I uncheck the box for the "priviledged" subscribers, their messages aren't hold for moderation. I am using Mailman 2.1.9. My second question is: does Mailman use any email authorization or it simply checks the From: header of messages? Regards, Dominika -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
