Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: RFE

2003-01-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:54  AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:


The import facility is critical to delivering targeted content 
within the
message distribution.


But that is not, IMHO, what Mailman is designed to do.

What you are talking about is a bulk mailer ... not a mailing list 
system.



THANK YOU.


They're correct. Don't use a hammer to fasten screws.

We run one of the larger mailman installs out there (behind 
sourceforge, but I'm not sure there are many others larger). I also run 
a hunk o' my company's e-marketing operations. When we needed systems 
for that, which require a much different user interface than discussion 
lists do, I wrote custom systems. Mailman really isn't something yous 
hould try to wedge into that round hole, and I don't think it makes 
sense to try to use it as the backend...


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: RFE

2003-01-08 Thread Roy S. Rapoport
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > What you are talking about is a bulk mailer ... not a mailing list system.
> >
> > Again, my opinion ... but Mailman is designed to facilitate email based
> > discussion forums ... not blasting email to a huge number of people at
> > once.
> THANK YOU.  My pink detector went off REAL BAD on this one.  It sounds SO
> SIMILAR
> to what a certain person asked of me to install Mailman.

ditto.  I like to think of mailman in terms of Russ
Allbery's famous Usenet rant -- Mailman is there for
discussions between human beings, not as an engine for
automated systems to spew their database.

-roy


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: RFE

2003-01-08 Thread Larry Rosenman


--On Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:25:48 -0600 David Gibbs 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

The import facility is critical to delivering targeted content within the
message distribution.  Being able to import the results of a -HTTP GET-
to a URL goes a long way towards that, especially if it will allow you to

pass

parameters on the URL.  Also, make the return an "object" so you can
perform operations on the object like sub-strings so you could use other
functionality like "skip" this user or add some other content block based
on something in the return.


But that is not, IMHO, what Mailman is designed to do.

What you are talking about is a bulk mailer ... not a mailing list system.

Again, my opinion ... but Mailman is designed to facilitate email based
discussion forums ... not blasting email to a huge number of people at
once.

THANK YOU.  My pink detector went off REAL BAD on this one.  It sounds SO 
SIMILAR
to what a certain person asked of me to install Mailman.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: RFE

2003-01-08 Thread David Gibbs
"Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The import facility is critical to delivering targeted content within the
> message distribution.  Being able to import the results of a -HTTP GET- to
> a URL goes a long way towards that, especially if it will allow you to
pass
> parameters on the URL.  Also, make the return an "object" so you can
> perform operations on the object like sub-strings so you could use other
> functionality like "skip" this user or add some other content block based
> on something in the return.

But that is not, IMHO, what Mailman is designed to do.

What you are talking about is a bulk mailer ... not a mailing list system.

Again, my opinion ... but Mailman is designed to facilitate email based
discussion forums ... not blasting email to a huge number of people at once.

david




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