Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?
Thanks guys for having enough patience with me. It helped me a lot. Alan Mark Sapiro wrote: alan wrote: First, what is MUA? (Sorry, but I'm quite new in using mailing lists.) Brad has answered this one. Second, the reason I'm bothering you all with this is to avoid sending big attachments back to the user and save him the trouble of seing mail again, as you said. But I have no trouble sending him the indication of reposting. OK. That seems like a good reason. Now, since I'm a newbee, can you please explain this to me in more simpla way. This is What I understood: asumming user is user1 and list is 123 To: 123; Cc:user1; Yes, that's what I meant. I am using Thunderbird (or OE sometimes) as a mail client to post to the list. I don't understand this part of your answer: instead of posting from your MUA which will send the Cc:, post the message directly with sendmail or equivalent, sending the envelope to the list only. This is the tricky part. Of course, if you just sent the message addressed as above, 'user1' would receive the direct Cc:, thus defeating the attempt to spare the user from receiving it again. This may be more trouble than it's worth, but what you'd need to do in Tbird is compose/forward/whatever the entire post, addressed as above, but instead of sending it, save it as a draft (you can't save it directly as a file because that only saves the 'body'). Then open the draft and save that as a file. Now you have a file containing the raw message with headers including the Cc: user1. Now you need to deliver that message to a mail server with a recipient of *only* the list. Then it will be sent to the list only, and Mailman will see the Cc: user1 and not send it to user1 assuming user1 has 'avoid dups' set in her options. This last step is not easy in a MS Windows environment. If you have a mail client that supports a 'resend' or 'redirect' operation, you could open the message with that client and 'resend' it to the list, but I don't think either MSOE or Tbird will do this. The following is a minimal python script that can do this. import sys import smtplib SMTPHOST = 'mail.example.com' SMTPPORT = 25 SMTP_USERNAME = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' SMTP_PASSWORD = 'yourpw' fp = open(sys.argv[1]) msg = fp.read() fp.close() rcpts = [sys.argv[2]] env = SMTP_USERNAME x = smtplib.SMTP() x.connect(SMTPHOST,SMTPPORT) x.login(SMTP_USERNAME, SMTP_PASSWORD) x.sendmail(env,rcpts,msg) x.quit() To use the above, you first have to install python http://www.python.org/ on your Windows computer. Then save the above script in the file 'sendmail.py'. Then in a command window, give the command python path\to\sendmail.py path\to\saved\message [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will send the saved message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] only, even though the saved message contains a Cc: user1 header. Certain obvious things need to be changed in the above script. Also, this will only work with an SMTP server that uses user/password authorization. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?
alan wrote: First, what is MUA? (Sorry, but I'm quite new in using mailing lists.) Brad has answered this one. Second, the reason I'm bothering you all with this is to avoid sending big attachments back to the user and save him the trouble of seing mail again, as you said. But I have no trouble sending him the indication of reposting. OK. That seems like a good reason. Now, since I'm a newbee, can you please explain this to me in more simpla way. This is What I understood: asumming user is user1 and list is 123 To: 123; Cc:user1; Yes, that's what I meant. I am using Thunderbird (or OE sometimes) as a mail client to post to the list. I don't understand this part of your answer: instead of posting from your MUA which will send the Cc:, post the message directly with sendmail or equivalent, sending the envelope to the list only. This is the tricky part. Of course, if you just sent the message addressed as above, 'user1' would receive the direct Cc:, thus defeating the attempt to spare the user from receiving it again. This may be more trouble than it's worth, but what you'd need to do in Tbird is compose/forward/whatever the entire post, addressed as above, but instead of sending it, save it as a draft (you can't save it directly as a file because that only saves the 'body'). Then open the draft and save that as a file. Now you have a file containing the raw message with headers including the Cc: user1. Now you need to deliver that message to a mail server with a recipient of *only* the list. Then it will be sent to the list only, and Mailman will see the Cc: user1 and not send it to user1 assuming user1 has 'avoid dups' set in her options. This last step is not easy in a MS Windows environment. If you have a mail client that supports a 'resend' or 'redirect' operation, you could open the message with that client and 'resend' it to the list, but I don't think either MSOE or Tbird will do this. The following is a minimal python script that can do this. import sys import smtplib SMTPHOST = 'mail.example.com' SMTPPORT = 25 SMTP_USERNAME = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' SMTP_PASSWORD = 'yourpw' fp = open(sys.argv[1]) msg = fp.read() fp.close() rcpts = [sys.argv[2]] env = SMTP_USERNAME x = smtplib.SMTP() x.connect(SMTPHOST,SMTPPORT) x.login(SMTP_USERNAME, SMTP_PASSWORD) x.sendmail(env,rcpts,msg) x.quit() To use the above, you first have to install python http://www.python.org/ on your Windows computer. Then save the above script in the file 'sendmail.py'. Then in a command window, give the command python path\to\sendmail.py path\to\saved\message [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will send the saved message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] only, even though the saved message contains a Cc: user1 header. Certain obvious things need to be changed in the above script. Also, this will only work with an SMTP server that uses user/password authorization. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?
First, what is MUA? (Sorry, but I'm quite new in using mailing lists.) Second, the reason I'm bothering you all with this is to avoid sending big attachments back to the user and save him the trouble of seing mail again, as you said. But I have no trouble sending him the indication of reposting. Now, since I'm a newbee, can you please explain this to me in more simpla way. This is What I understood: asumming user is user1 and list is 123 To: 123; Cc:user1; I am using Thunderbird (or OE sometimes) as a mail client to post to the list. I don't understand this part of your answer: instead of posting from your MUA which will send the Cc:, post the message directly with sendmail or equivalent, sending the envelope to the list only. Alan On 5/5/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan wrote: Ok, that is one option. Now is it possible to control it through some keywords in header of mail. Similar to putting Approved: password in the first line of post. If the user has no dups set in the user's options, you can put a Cc: to the user in the email To: the list and then instead of posting from your MUA which will send the Cc:, post the message directly with sendmail or equivalent, sending the envelope to the list only. I think that's the best you can do. At 9:11 +0200 5/4/06, Alan wrote: Situation is: I have a list named 123 I have a user user1 in that list I get a mail from user1 and want to forward it to list 123 but would like to exclude user1 from the list for that one time Are you trying to hide the fact that you reposted the message to the list (the user could see it in the archives or a subsequent reply to the list if there are archives or replies or some other list member may just tell the user, so hiding may not be effective)? If you're only trying to save the user the trouble of seeing the message again, I think on the other hand, it is a courtesy to the user to receive the post which indicates it has been reposted. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?
At 9:12 PM +0200 2006-05-06, alan wrote: First, what is MUA? (Sorry, but I'm quite new in using mailing lists.) MUA = Mail User Agent Typical MUAs are Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Eudora, etc In your case, based on the headers included in the messages you are posting to the list, it appears that you are using Gmail through their web interface, so Gmail would be your MUA. I'll let someone else try to explain the rest. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?
Ok, that is one option. Now is it possible to control it through some keywords in header of mail. Similar to putting Approved: password in the first line of post. I would like to avoid logging in to admin panel. Alan Allan Hansen wrote: Sure, Set the user's option to 'nomail', send the message and set the user's option back. You'll need admin access to do that, though, as moderators don't have access to the options. Allan At 9:11 +0200 5/4/06, Alan wrote: Is it possible to remove exclude someone form the list for just one time using some keywords or headers? Situation is: I have a list named 123 I have a user user1 in that list I get a mail from user1 and want to forward it to list 123 but would like to exclude user1 from the list for that one time I hope you understand what I mean :-) Alan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?
No, there's no such option, Alan. Allan At 9:33 +0200 5/5/06, Alan wrote: Ok, that is one option. Now is it possible to control it through some keywords in header of mail. Similar to putting Approved: password in the first line of post. I would like to avoid logging in to admin panel. Alan Allan Hansen wrote: Sure, Set the user's option to 'nomail', send the message and set the user's option back. You'll need admin access to do that, though, as moderators don't have access to the options. Allan At 9:11 +0200 5/4/06, Alan wrote: Is it possible to remove exclude someone form the list for just one time using some keywords or headers? Situation is: I have a list named 123 I have a user user1 in that list I get a mail from user1 and want to forward it to list 123 but would like to exclude user1 from the list for that one time I hope you understand what I mean :-) Alan -- _ | Allan Hansen, Ph.D. | |P.O. Box 2423, Cypress, CA 90630, U.S.A. | | | | Work: Home:| | Phone: +1-714/952-6015 +1-714/875-8870 | | Fax: +1-714/952-6746 | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]| | WWW: http://www.ugs.com http://www.rc.org/ | | | |_Anything is possible with the right tools and right information_| -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?
Alan wrote: Ok, that is one option. Now is it possible to control it through some keywords in header of mail. Similar to putting Approved: password in the first line of post. If the user has no dups set in the user's options, you can put a Cc: to the user in the email To: the list and then instead of posting from your MUA which will send the Cc:, post the message directly with sendmail or equivalent, sending the envelope to the list only. I think that's the best you can do. At 9:11 +0200 5/4/06, Alan wrote: Situation is: I have a list named 123 I have a user user1 in that list I get a mail from user1 and want to forward it to list 123 but would like to exclude user1 from the list for that one time Are you trying to hide the fact that you reposted the message to the list (the user could see it in the archives or a subsequent reply to the list if there are archives or replies or some other list member may just tell the user, so hiding may not be effective)? If you're only trying to save the user the trouble of seeing the message again, I think on the other hand, it is a courtesy to the user to receive the post which indicates it has been reposted. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?
Is it possible to remove exclude someone form the list for just one time using some keywords or headers? Situation is: I have a list named 123 I have a user user1 in that list I get a mail from user1 and want to forward it to list 123 but would like to exclude user1 from the list for that one time I hope you understand what I mean :-) Alan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?
Sure, Set the user's option to 'nomail', send the message and set the user's option back. You'll need admin access to do that, though, as moderators don't have access to the options. Allan At 9:11 +0200 5/4/06, Alan wrote: Is it possible to remove exclude someone form the list for just one time using some keywords or headers? Situation is: I have a list named 123 I have a user user1 in that list I get a mail from user1 and want to forward it to list 123 but would like to exclude user1 from the list for that one time I hope you understand what I mean :-) Alan -- _ | Allan Hansen, Ph.D. | |P.O. Box 2423, Cypress, CA 90630, U.S.A. | | | | Work: Home:| | Phone: +1-714/952-6015 +1-714/875-8870 | | Fax: +1-714/952-6746 | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]| | WWW: http://www.ugs.com http://www.rc.org/ | | | |_Anything is possible with the right tools and right information_| -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
