Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1
On 19 Adar I 5763, Andy Firman wrote: Any Debian users on this list? How would I upgrade from 2.0.11? When I installed the system I just did an apt-get install mailman. Do I need to do a source install to upgrade? Not sure if I can do that. At this time it looks like the latest version in sarge (the testing distribution) is 2.0.13. Sid or unstable appears to have a version of 2.1: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/mailman.html However note that packages don't move from unstable to testing until they have gone for a couple of weeks without a major bug report. If you have to upgrade now, you might want to get the source (the canonical source for 2.1.1, not the Debian package source), configure in a way that matches the Debian configuration (like changing the Makefile to MAILMAN_UID=list rather than something else, MAILMAN_HOME=/var/lib/mailman, and so on), and try installing from source on a test system. But from then on you would probably have to maintain the source yourself, or go through some sort of reintegration process to sync back up to whatever changes Debian introduces into its 2.1+ packages. At the moment I am waiting for the Debian package to at least come down to testing. If I had to upgrade now, I would probably follow the directions to have two Mailman installs on the same system, install from source, move the lists over manually, and then stick to source installs from then on, and not use Debian. But I'm lazy and not yet desperate for the 2.1+ features, so I'm waiting for Debian. -- Charles Sebold 22nd of Adar I, 5763 Systems Specialist, LCMS - Office of Information Systems *** Opinions expressed herein are not necessarily *** *** those of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod *** -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1
I am upgrading to 2.1 now from 2.0.13 a couple of questions How safe is it to install into the previuos mailman directory (/home/mailman)? If I do not install in the old directory how easy is it to copy my lists across? I upgraded my production MM 2.0.13 to MM 2.1 (and later that to 2.1.1) by installing over the old installation without any problems. I would like to do the same but I am using Debian 3.0. Any Debian users on this list? How would I upgrade from 2.0.11? When I installed the system I just did an apt-get install mailman. Do I need to do a source install to upgrade? Not sure if I can do that. (same thing with Exim 3 to Exim 4...I have no clue how to upgrade but that question is probably not appropriate here.) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1
Hallo all I am upgrading to 2.1 now from 2.0.13 a couple of questions How safe is it to install into the previuos mailman directory (/home/mailman)? If I do not install in the old directory how easy is it to copy my lists across? Tnx Mozzi -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Mailscanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1
At 12:08 20/02/2003, Mozzi wrote: Hallo all I am upgrading to 2.1 now from 2.0.13 a couple of questions How safe is it to install into the previuos mailman directory (/home/mailman)? If I do not install in the old directory how easy is it to copy my lists across? I upgraded my production MM 2.0.13 to MM 2.1 (and later that to 2.1.1) by installing over the old installation without any problems. The machine concerned supports over 460 lists, some with archives and some without, and conversion was a non-event; only a 20 minute interruption in service. I did set up a few scripts using $prefix/bin/withlist and base on $prefix/bin/fix_url.py to sort out some of the list attributes that were not to my liking after the upgrade. Just make sure you read the install and upgrade notes thoroughly and watch out for potential problems if you have used things like patch #413752 on your MM 2.0.x installation. I confess I cheat by doing test runs: I installed MM 2.0.13 with all the patches I was using on my production MM 2.0.13 system onto my secondary server, added some sample lists and then did a trial upgrade to MM 2.1 (initially beta). Repeated this until upgrading the test system was completely trouble free; then doing the real thing was a non-event. Doing this was where I sorted out the fixup scripts I needed, and found the sting in the tail of patch #413752 and developed patch #651406 to fix it (which btw works OK with MM 2.1 and 2.1.1 source). I started using this test upgrade approach when I first upgraded from MM 2.0.3 and have stuck with it ever since. Train hard, fight easy! Tnx Mozzi -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Mailscanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1
RB == Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RB I confess I cheat by doing test runs: I installed MM 2.0.13 with all the RB patches I was using on my production MM 2.0.13 system onto my secondary RB server, added some sample lists and then did a trial upgrade to MM 2.1 RB (initially beta). Repeated this until upgrading the test system was RB completely trouble free; then doing the real thing was a non-event. Doing RB this was where I sorted out the fixup scripts I needed, and found the sting What?!?!? You mean you test software and upgrade procedures *before* doing them on a production machine? What are you, some kind of *real* system administrator or something? ;-) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1
At 15:45 20/02/2003, Vivek Khera wrote: RB == Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RB I confess I cheat by doing test runs: I installed MM 2.0.13 with all the RB patches I was using on my production MM 2.0.13 system onto my secondary RB server, added some sample lists and then did a trial upgrade to MM 2.1 RB (initially beta). Repeated this until upgrading the test system was RB completely trouble free; then doing the real thing was a non-event. Doing RB this was where I sorted out the fixup scripts I needed, and found the sting What?!?!? You mean you test software and upgrade procedures *before* doing them on a production machine? What are you, some kind of *real* system administrator or something? ;-) Tried not doing the tests once. I've still got the scars. My boss has the memory of an elephant and never hesitates to remind one of past sins, especially at pay review time! Mind you we have a great job incentive scheme: do your job well and you might get to keep it :( -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1 with Sendmail not mailing to list?
This is probably a quick one, but I thought I would mail it out to the list. I did check the archives, but didn't have much luck. We are running 2.0.13 and I took on the task of upgrading to 2.1. Our RH-based server is running Sendmail (8.12.7) and happily chugging along managing a few dozen lists for a variety of domains. After upgrading on our test machine (same exact configuration as the production box), changing the smrsh lins to point to the renamed wrapper mailman, disabling the old qrunner, and starting up the queue runner daemon, it appears that emails TO the list work just fine. However, email FROM the list out to the recipients doesn't happen. For example, I mail into the list as a non-subscribed user. I go to the web interface, and select approve. The very next entry in the sendmail logs is: Jan 2 11:44:15 testserv sm-mta[29018]: h02GiFBO029018: localhost [127.0.0.1] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA And then nothing.. no email, nothing. So, I try it as a subscribed user, and I immediately get a message in the sendmail logs as above. I combed through the instructions to no avail. Any ideas would be much appreciated! Thanks! -Rich -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
