Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?
On Friday 02 September 2016, Richard Johnson wrote: > This is strange. One of my list users gets digest messages as a series of > attachments, while all other users receive digests as all text, with the > messages one after the other. > > The person who gets the attachments has a Cox.net address. Maybe they're > doing something to it? Remote possibility is the users mail reader is bursting digests back to individual messages. These will have minimal headers, look different and might be mistaken for attachments. Forte Agent defaults to this behavior. -- William -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?
On 09/02/2016 11:23 PM, Richard Johnson wrote: > Actually, my list is setup to send all digests in text format. I was toying > with the idea of sending in MIME format. Maybe that would be better? I assume you mean that Digest options -> mime_is_default_digest is set to Plain, but that only sets the default for new subscribers. It's a user option and any user can change her setting. Also, if you change it to MIME, that only affects people who subscribe after the change. It doesn't change any current members. > But it sounds as if you're saying that a user can specify that they want MIME > instead of there configured version, somewhere in their personal config? Yes. The user can set it on her options page - "Get MIME or Plain Text Digests?" and the admin can set it for a user with the 'plain' checkbox on the Membership Management... -> Membership List pages (unchecked = MIME) I think MIME digests are better. They have several advantages IF (and it's upper case IF on purpose) the user's mail client deals well with the format. Mobile phone apps as a class are generally quite bad at dealing with MIME digests as are some web mail apps. Each user needs to decide for herself which is preferred based on the client(s) she uses. Personally, I set digest mode to MIME on those few lists I subscribe to in digest form, and I just don't try to read them on my phone or just read the TOC and maybe delete the digest as uninteresting. If I want to read and possibly reply to a message in the digest, I use a real MUA on a real computer. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?
Actually, my list is setup to send all digests in text format. I was toying with the idea of sending in MIME format. Maybe that would be better? But it sounds as if you're saying that a user can specify that they want MIME instead of there configured version, somewhere in their personal config? /raj (sent from iPhone) > On Sep 2, 2016, at 7:45 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> On 09/02/2016 06:48 PM, Richard Johnson wrote: >> This is strange. One of my list users gets digest messages as a series of >> attachments, while all other users receive digests as all text, with the >> messages one after the other. >> >> The person who gets the attachments has a Cox.net address. Maybe they're >> doing something to it? > > > That has nothing to do with it. There are two digest formats. > > Plain text is a digest with all non-plain text parts stored aside and > replaced by links and flattened into a single plain text message. > > MIME format is a multipart digest with each original message in its own > sub-part. > > Your user who gets 'attachments' has elected to receive MIME digests. > You can see this on the user's options page or the admin membership list > pages. > > Whether a MIME digest is rendered with the message parts inline, only as > attachments or not at all is a function of the mail client reading the > message. > > -- > Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/raj%40mischievous.us -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?
On 09/02/2016 06:48 PM, Richard Johnson wrote: > This is strange. One of my list users gets digest messages as a series of > attachments, while all other users receive digests as all text, with the > messages one after the other. > > The person who gets the attachments has a Cox.net address. Maybe they're > doing something to it? That has nothing to do with it. There are two digest formats. Plain text is a digest with all non-plain text parts stored aside and replaced by links and flattened into a single plain text message. MIME format is a multipart digest with each original message in its own sub-part. Your user who gets 'attachments' has elected to receive MIME digests. You can see this on the user's options page or the admin membership list pages. Whether a MIME digest is rendered with the message parts inline, only as attachments or not at all is a function of the mail client reading the message. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?
On 9/2/2016 6:48 PM, Richard Johnson wrote: This is strange. One of my list users gets digest messages as a series of attachments, while all other users receive digests as all text, with the messages one after the other. The person who gets the attachments has a Cox.net address. Maybe they're doing something to it? Almost anything in the handling chain can mess with the format. Could be that cox.net's web email doesn't understand digest format, but if the user is reading email via imap from cox it would be OK. I think you need to look closer at how people are getting & reading their email. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?
This is strange. One of my list users gets digest messages as a series of attachments, while all other users receive digests as all text, with the messages one after the other. The person who gets the attachments has a Cox.net address. Maybe they're doing something to it? /raj (sent from iPhone) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org