[Mailman-Users] automatically remove uncaught bounces
Hi, I recieve hundreds of messages everyday as uncaught bounce notifications and most of them are spam ADs of pills and stuff sent to my list.. and some of them are actually uncaught bounces by mailman. I can't keep opening the messages everyday to filter them, on the other hand I can't afford to ignore the actual uncaught spams in order not to be blocked by their corresponding mail servers! is there a way to let mailman unsubscribe the addresses of uncaught spams automatically from my lists instead of sending it to me? Thanks.. _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] automatically remove uncaught bounces
faisal anif wrote: I recieve hundreds of messages everyday as uncaught bounce notifications and most of them are spam ADs of pills and stuff sent to my list.. and some of them are actually uncaught bounces by mailman. I can't keep opening the messages everyday to filter them, on the other hand I can't afford to ignore the actual uncaught spams in order not to be blocked by their corresponding mail servers! is there a way to let mailman unsubscribe the addresses of uncaught spams automatically from my lists instead of sending it to me? If Mailman could recognize the DSN as such and extract the address from it, it wouldn't be uncaught; it would be handled be bounce processing. If you collect the legitimate bounces that are unrecognized and send them to me off list, I can try to update the recognizers to recognize them. However, please don't do this unless you are running a recent Mailman, at least 2.1.9 or preferably 2.1.11, since otherwise you will probably be sending me ones that are already recognized in later Mailman. Also, don't send me non-English language DSNs unless they have an RFC3464 compliant message/delivery-status part. Also note, that if you enable VERP in Mailman (or in your MTA), legitimate bounces will never be unrecognized. Set VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 in mm_cfg.py to enable it in Mailman. Finally, it would help greatly if you would install some effective spam filtering ahead of Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] automatically remove uncaught bounces
On 12/12/2008 03:00 AM, faisal anif wrote: is there a way to let mailman unsubscribe the addresses of uncaught spams automatically from my lists instead of sending it to me? Slightly off topic, but still related. I'm trying to think (and not having much luck at the moment) what SMTP envelope address Mailman sends messages from. I believe the address is different than the address for the list (or -request type) but I'm not sure. /If/ (and that's a kicker) the address *is* different, you might be able to do something like Sendmail's Protected Recipients tweak. In short P.R. only allows inbound messages to the protected recipient if the sender is on a allowed list. The idea being that if Mailman is the only one that would be sending to the address that it's messages are sent from, you could restrict what message could come in to it if they were not sent by Mailman its self. Just a thought. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] automatically remove uncaught bounces
Grant Taylor wrote: On 12/12/2008 03:00 AM, faisal anif wrote: is there a way to let mailman unsubscribe the addresses of uncaught spams automatically from my lists instead of sending it to me? Slightly off topic, but still related. I'm trying to think (and not having much luck at the moment) what SMTP envelope address Mailman sends messages from. I believe the address is different than the address for the list (or -request type) but I'm not sure. /If/ (and that's a kicker) the address *is* different, you might be able to do something like Sendmail's Protected Recipients tweak. In short P.R. only allows inbound messages to the protected recipient if the sender is on a allowed list. The idea being that if Mailman is the only one that would be sending to the address that it's messages are sent from, you could restrict what message could come in to it if they were not sent by Mailman its self. Mailman sends mail from listname-boun...@... DSNs are returned by foreign (in some cases) MTAs to that address. Spam is also sent to that address. Since a valid DSN can come from anywhere, your suggestion doesn't seem viable. Note however, that a valid DSN should have a null envelope sender and possibly only delivering mail to listname-boun...@... if the envelope sender is null might help, but the OP's issue was that some unrecognized bounces were legitimate bounces, and since to be unrecognized, they must be non-compliant in the first place, there's no guarantee they would have a null envelope sender. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
