Re: [Mailman-Users] notification system
At 9:18 PM -0500 2006-01-21, Matt Gostick wrote: I have installed Mailman in hopes of using it as a type of 'notification' system. For example, a user subscribes to the list, and after subscribing I can send him/her an email notifiying them an event that happens on my website. Send a notice to that list, and all recipients will receive a copy. But you don't have a list per recipient. If you did, then why would you bother with a mailing list system -- why not just send a message directly to each of those users?\ The event would be unique for this user and should only be sent to him/her. That's not going to work. Is mailman the appropriate program for me? If not, can anyone suggest another standard program that would do the job? If every user has a unique event that only they care about, you will probably need to build your own system -- just have a database of users and what events they're interested in, and then send out e-mail messages every time one of those events happen. Yeah, that is what I do now, but I am at the point where I am sending so many emails per day that my penetration rate is decreasing b/c of Junk/Spam folders. I was hoping that using a standard program where the unsubscribe/subscribe system was known and trusted by isp's that I would get better penetration. Thanks, Matt. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] notification system
Matt Gostick wrote: I was hoping that using a standard program where the unsubscribe/subscribe system was known and trusted by isp's that I would get better penetration. I don't think that's the way ISP's work in general. I think they consider the source IP of the mail, not the software that apparently delivered it. In any case, I doubt that any ISP would whitelist mail simply because it appeared to be sent from Mailman. Mailman can be a abused too. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] notification system
At 11:34 AM -0500 2006-01-22, Matt Gostick wrote: Yeah, that is what I do now, but I am at the point where I am sending so many emails per day that my penetration rate is decreasing b/c of Junk/Spam folders. Ahh. Yes, that could be a problem. I was hoping that using a standard program where the unsubscribe/subscribe system was known and trusted by isp's that I would get better penetration. There are lots of spammers out there that use Mailman to spew their sewage, or they do a pretty decent job of spoofing Mailman while actually using other tools. Just having the Mailman name on the outgoing message wouldn't save you anything. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] notification system
Matt == Matt Gostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matt I have installed Mailman in hopes of using it as a type of Matt 'notification' system. For example, a user subscribes to Matt the list, and after subscribing I can send him/her an email Matt notifiying them an event that happens on my website. The Matt event would be unique for this user and should only be sent Matt to him/her. Is mailman the appropriate program for me? No. Matt If not, can anyone suggest another standard program that Matt would do the job? You want an issue tracker: I would suggest Roundup or RT, but I'm sure there are others that would do a good job. If you don't need to handle incoming mail (for subscriptions or other user interaction) and are hoping to grow to where you need an industrial-strength solution, Bugzilla. (Not that Roundup or RT aren't industrial strength, just that the very large issue trackers I know of are roll-yer-own, like Debian BTS and SourceForge Tracker, or Bugzilla.) -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of TsukubaTennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can do free software business; ask what your business can do for free software. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] notification system
I have installed Mailman in hopes of using it as a type of 'notification' system. For example, a user subscribes to the list, and after subscribing I can send him/her an email notifiying them an event that happens on my website. The event would be unique for this user and should only be sent to him/her. Is mailman the appropriate program for me? If not, can anyone suggest another standard program that would do the job? Thanks, Matt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] notification system
At 9:18 PM -0500 2006-01-21, Matt Gostick wrote: I have installed Mailman in hopes of using it as a type of 'notification' system. For example, a user subscribes to the list, and after subscribing I can send him/her an email notifiying them an event that happens on my website. Send a notice to that list, and all recipients will receive a copy. But you don't have a list per recipient. If you did, then why would you bother with a mailing list system -- why not just send a message directly to each of those users? The event would be unique for this user and should only be sent to him/her. That's not going to work. Is mailman the appropriate program for me? If not, can anyone suggest another standard program that would do the job? If every user has a unique event that only they care about, you will probably need to build your own system -- just have a database of users and what events they're interested in, and then send out e-mail messages every time one of those events happen. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
