[Mailman-Users] Upgrading mailman from 2 to 3 and private archives

[Bader, Robert (Bob)]

So looking to migrate to mailman3 from  mailman2, so for archives I see the 
notes below stated on the website. So just making sure I understand correctly.

Private and Public archives will migrate over, however links to the messages 
will change.
If they are public archives you can make them available read only so your links 
work.
If they are Private archives, basically your links to archived messages will no 
longer work.

Do I understand that correctly?

I have a user that has multiple lists with private archives, and has links to 
messages on his website for his users…..  So basically his weblinks will no 
longer work, and nothing can really be done about it are is there a solution?






 Archives info on mailman upgrade info from 2 to 3 from the 
website


· URLs to archived messages will break, unless you take extra steps to 
keep them around. Upgrade mechanism makes sure to import all your archived 
messages in the new system, but, all the URLs to the new messages are going to 
be different.

If you need your URLs for Mailman 2 archives to work, you can keep the HTML 
files generated for the archives around and your web server configuration for 
the archives intact (possibly with a notice to viewers that it is now a 
read-only archive, see this 
list for example).

· The above mechanism won’t work for private archives since the 
archives are gated with password and without a Mailman 2 list, there is no 
password. You can however import them to Mailman 3.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman from Centos package...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Feb 13, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Mark Sapiro 
mailto:m...@msapiro.net>> wrote:

On 2/13/20 12:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Probably a dumb question, but, this should also be the process to update MM 
from a RHEL/CentOS package to a later version from source?

https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.80%20How%20do%20I%20upgrade%20from%20Mailman%202.1.x%20to%20a%20later%20Mailman%202.1.y%3F

I've checked this:

https://wiki.list.org/DOC/RHEL%20file%20changes%20after%20version%202.1.5-20

Have you also seen which is linked from that?


Yes I did, and based on everything I looked at in our system it looks like it’s 
supposed to.

The one thing I was worried about was the line " You can find the ./configure 
line you used last time by looking in the config.status file in old source 
tree."

Since I don’t have an old source tree, I was a little worried that there would 
be some weird bits in the config.

You basically want to unpack the source tarball or retrieve the latest
source from Launchpad, configure it with --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman, and
'make' but not 'make install', and then update everything that's in
/usr/lib/mailman from the resulting Mailman/, build/bin, build/cron,
messages/, scripts and templates/.

You don't need to be concerned about /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin,
/usr/lib/mailman/mail or /usr/lib/mailman/tests.

I think that will work, but I've never done it so no guarantees.

Fortunately it’s a VM so I can just snapshot it and if the upgrade breaks, just 
roll it back.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman from Centos package...

[Mark Sapiro]

On 2/13/20 12:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> Probably a dumb question, but, this should also be the process to update MM 
> from a RHEL/CentOS package to a later version from source?
> 
> https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.80%20How%20do%20I%20upgrade%20from%20Mailman%202.1.x%20to%20a%20later%20Mailman%202.1.y%3F
> 
> I've checked this:
> 
> https://wiki.list.org/DOC/RHEL%20file%20changes%20after%20version%202.1.5-20

Have you also seen which is linked from that?

You basically want to unpack the source tarball or retrieve the latest
source from Launchpad, configure it with --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman, and
'make' but not 'make install', and then update everything that's in
/usr/lib/mailman from the resulting Mailman/, build/bin, build/cron,
messages/, scripts and templates/.

You don't need to be concerned about /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin,
/usr/lib/mailman/mail or /usr/lib/mailman/tests.

I think that will work, but I've never done it so no guarantees.

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[Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman from Centos package...

[Bruce Johnson]

Probably a dumb question, but, this should also be the process to update MM 
from a RHEL/CentOS package to a later version from source?

https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.80%20How%20do%20I%20upgrade%20from%20Mailman%202.1.x%20to%20a%20later%20Mailman%202.1.y%3F

I've checked this:

https://wiki.list.org/DOC/RHEL%20file%20changes%20after%20version%202.1.5-20

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[Mailman-Users] upgrading mailman

[Mark]

Hi my linode needs upgrading and  i have been told if i upgrade it  will break 
my mailman does any one know if this right
mark.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading mailman

[Mark Sapiro]

On 05/04/2015 05:48 AM, Mark wrote:
 Hi my linode needs upgrading and  i have been told if i upgrade it  will 
 break my mailman does any one know if this right


It probably depends on exactly how you installed Mailman (package,
source, ??) and if you have any patches to your Mailman.

If you do everything as recommended, i.e. never change Defaults.py but
make your changes in mm_cfg.py; don't edit templates but create
site/domain/list specific versions via the web admin UI or as described
in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/4030605, an upgrade shouldn't
break Mailman, but you also need to be aware of what an upgrade might do
to the Mailman related things in the web server and MTA.

Backup!!!

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[Mailman-Users] upgrading Mailman.

[Michael Capelle]

Hello.
I am trying to upgrade mailman, I am using Debian 5-04.  I have mailman 
version 2.1.11.  Do i need to use a dependency to update?

thanks.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading Mailman.

[Michael Capelle]

I need to add, we are not using 5.0.4, we are using 5.0.8.  Is there any 
dependencies we need to download?
we have 2.1.11, and we want to upgrade to 2.1.15, we are using debian 5.0.8. 
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Hello.
I am trying to upgrade mailman, I am using Debian 5-04.  I have mailman 
version 2.1.11.  Do i need to use a dependency to update?

thanks.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading Mailman.

[Mark Sapiro]

Michael Capelle wrote:

I need to add, we are not using 5.0.4, we are using 5.0.8.  Is there any 
dependencies we need to download?
we have 2.1.11, and we want to upgrade to 2.1.15, we are using debian 5.0.8. 


I believe Mailman 2.1.11 (1:2.1.11-11+lenny1) is the latest Debian
packaged release for Debian 5.

If you want to install from source, you will need python and python-dev
- Python 2.6.x is recommended for current Mailman, but Python 2.5.x
(not 2.5) should be OK, see http://wiki.list.org/x/pYA9 and
http://wiki.list.org/x/bAM. Whatever MTA and web server you
currently have is OK.

I don't know where you plan to get Mailman 2.1.15. The latest release
is 2.1.14-1, although 2.1.15 should be released this summer, but there
is currently no target date.

Others on this list or a Debian/Ubuntu list/forum may have more
information on installing from source on Debian.

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[Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman on Mac Server 10.5.8 - Stuck!

[Paul Kleeberg]

I am upgrading preinstalled versions of Mailman (first 2.1.9 = 2.1.12 on a 
clean install of server 10.5.8 as practice then I will do 2.1.12 rc1 = 2.1.12 
in production on server 10.6.2) and I am running into a bunch of minor issues.  
I have made it through most of them but this one has me stuck.  When I try and 
run mailmanctl, I get the error message:

Shutting down Mailman's master qrunner
PID unreadable in: /usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid'
Is qrunner even running?

and I find that the file is in another directory:

/private/var/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid

I have tried different things in the bin/config command, but nothing appears to 
work.   I have tried searching for a solution but have found nothing.  Can 
anyone help?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman on Mac Server 10.5.8 - Stuck!

[Paul Kleeberg]

Never mind.  Mark already answered my question.  I had forgotten I had asked 
it.  My apologies.

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On Dec 16, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Paul Kleeberg wrote:

 I am upgrading preinstalled versions of Mailman (first 2.1.9 = 2.1.12 on a 
 clean install of server 10.5.8 as practice then I will do 2.1.12 rc1 = 
 2.1.12 in production on server 10.6.2) and I am running into a bunch of minor 
 issues.  I have made it through most of them but this one has me stuck.  When 
 I try and run mailmanctl, I get the error message:
 
   Shutting down Mailman's master qrunner
   PID unreadable in: /usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid
   [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
 '/usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid'
   Is qrunner even running?
 
 and I find that the file is in another directory:
 
   /private/var/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid
 
 I have tried different things in the bin/config command, but nothing appears 
 to work.   I have tried searching for a solution but have found nothing.  Can 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading Mailman 2.1.5 to 2.1.7 FC3

[Mark Sapiro]

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I have installed Mailman 2.1.5 on a Fedora core 3 box. I installed from
RPM. Tha last version for FC3 is 2.1.5, but I'd like to upgrade to 2.1.7.
Is there an easy way to do this? Anyone who have done this successfully?


John Dennis from Red Hat often has things to say about Red Hat issues,
but he doesn't seem to be active on the list right now.

First, I'd wait for 2.1.8. It will be out soon and has several bug
fixes.

Second, upgrading from source is easy. It's just a matter of getting
the configure options right and running 'configure' with those options
and 'make install'. You want to stop Mailman and probably your MTA and
web server during 'make install' - read the UPGRADING document in the
distribution. Also, you can look at the installation manual in the
distribution in the admin/www/ directory or on line at
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/index.html. For an upgrade,
you're mostly concerned with section 3, as the rest of the steps are
already done.

The tricky part is Red Hat in an effort to be standards compliant has
split things up into directories in ways that I *think* involve more
than can be handled with just the

--prefix,
--exec-prefix and
--with-var-prefix

options. The good news, is I *think* you can probably set these three
appropriately so that things will work.

There is at least one other tricky thing in that I think Red Hat has
patched mailmanctl to support a 'status' option that one of their
scripts uses. See
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044898.html
and
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1208685group_id=103atid=300103.

You will probably want to run configure and then look at the configured
Defaults.py and diff it with the 2.1.5 installed one to get an idea if
any configure options need to be changed. You can run configure any
number of times without affecting your 2.1.5 installation which will
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[Mailman-Users] upgrading Mailman 2.1.5 to 2.1.7 FC3

[pal]

I have installed Mailman 2.1.5 on a Fedora core 3 box. I installed from
RPM. Tha last version for FC3 is 2.1.5, but I'd like to upgrade to 2.1.7.
Is there an easy way to do this? Anyone who have done this successfully?
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[Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman (2.1.3 - 2.1.6)

[Odhiambo Washington]

I know this has been discussed/documented, but I just can't find the
actual link detailing the steps.

Can someone point me to it? I have a production setup which I must not
screw up with during the upgrade ;)


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[Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman (2.1.3 - 2.1.6) - Q2

[Odhiambo Washington]

I have 2.1.3 running! And reading what Barry did here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg03127.html

It would appear that I can simply install over my /path/to/mailman and
it wouldn't break much, no? ;)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman (2.1.3 - 2.1.6) - Q2

[Mark Sapiro]

Odhiambo Washington wrote:

I have 2.1.3 running! And reading what Barry did here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg03127.html

It would appear that I can simply install over my /path/to/mailman and
it wouldn't break much, no? ;)

After you download and unpack the 2.1.6 distribution, read the
UPGRADING document. The sections that apply in particilar to a
2.1.3-2.1.6 upgrade are UPGRADING FROM PREVIOUS VERSIONS and
UPGRADING FROM 2.1.4 to 2.1.5. The remainder of the document doesn't
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[Mailman-Users] Upgrading mailman 1.0 and python 2.3.3

[Andy Cravens]

We are currently running Mailman 1.0 and python 1.5.2

In prep for upgrading Mailman 1.0, I will be upgrading python from 1.5.2
to version 2.3.3.  Will Mailman 1.0 continue to run after I upgrade
python to 2.3.3?  Also, will Mailman 2.0.13 run OK under python 2.3.3? 
The docs on the Mailman web site say that Mailman 2.0.13 runs best under
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[Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman

[John Poltorak]

I installed Mailman v2.1.1 some time ago, and would like to upgrade to a 
later version. How do I go about it? Do I just install a new version over 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman

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* John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I installed Mailman v2.1.1 some time ago, and would like to upgrade to a 
 later version. How do I go about it? Do I just install a new version over 
 the top of the old one?

Yes. Lists etc. will be automaticvally migrated.

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[Mailman-Users] upgrading mailman 1.0.13 - mailman2.0

[Aris Santillan]

hi 

have anyone tried upgrading there old mailman with the new one?
using rpm -Uvh ?



thanks
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[Mailman-Users] upgrading mailman

[Dene Ulmschneider]

I am urrently running version 1.63. Is it worth upgrading at this point yet?




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