Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only
Thank you, Mark. This is very, very close to what I need. I appreciate the quick and concise reply. Brian -Original Message- From: m...@msapiro.net [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:51 PM To: Atkins, Brian CTR; Mailman-Users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only Atkins, Brian CTR wrote: I'm trying to create a list so that 1 member and a select group of non-members can send out announcements with the replies coming back to the poster and limit the amount of email that the moderator/poster receives. I also want to have the ability to have members send to the list but messages go to a specific person rather than the list. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9. That should get you at least close to what you want. I should note that the primary poster is also a moderator, so he receives 2 e-mails for every reply, one for the actual reply and another from mailman telling him he has a post that is moderated. So what I want is: Announcement: Poster = List Reply: Member = Poster New message: Member = Authorized recipient This is the tricky part. See below. What I'm getting is: Announcement: Poster = List Reply: Member = Poster Admin message = Moderator If you set member_moderation_action to Reject or Discard, you won't get a held message or notice to the moderator. If you set first_strip_reply_to to Yes, reply_goes_to_list to Explicit address and reply_to_address as desired, you can get most replies to go to reply_to_address. This won't be the poster in all cases, but may be acceptable. If you rely on users to just reply, either reply_goes_to_list = Poster or reply_goes_to_list = Explicit address will be fine. The problem comes when they reply all because that will include the list. New message: Member = Held for moderation Admin message = Moderator There is no way to send this message to a specific person. What you can do is described in the FAQ, namely set member_moderation_action to Reject and set member_moderation_notice to text explaining that the message should be sent to Authorized recipient. However, this may impact the Reply: case -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only
OK, I'm very close and have made many of the changes suggested both by Mark and from the FAQ. I have one last item I'm having trouble with. I have an explicit reply to address in place. If I set the member_moderation_action to 'discard', will the person/people in the explicit reply to header still get a copy of the message? What about 'reject'? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: Atkins, Brian CTR Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:03 AM To: 'm...@msapiro.net'; Mailman-Users@python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only Thank you, Mark. This is very, very close to what I need. I appreciate the quick and concise reply. Brian -Original Message- From: m...@msapiro.net [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:51 PM To: Atkins, Brian CTR; Mailman-Users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only Atkins, Brian CTR wrote: I'm trying to create a list so that 1 member and a select group of non-members can send out announcements with the replies coming back to the poster and limit the amount of email that the moderator/poster receives. I also want to have the ability to have members send to the list but messages go to a specific person rather than the list. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9. That should get you at least close to what you want. I should note that the primary poster is also a moderator, so he receives 2 e-mails for every reply, one for the actual reply and another from mailman telling him he has a post that is moderated. So what I want is: Announcement: Poster = List Reply: Member = Poster New message: Member = Authorized recipient This is the tricky part. See below. What I'm getting is: Announcement: Poster = List Reply: Member = Poster Admin message = Moderator If you set member_moderation_action to Reject or Discard, you won't get a held message or notice to the moderator. If you set first_strip_reply_to to Yes, reply_goes_to_list to Explicit address and reply_to_address as desired, you can get most replies to go to reply_to_address. This won't be the poster in all cases, but may be acceptable. If you rely on users to just reply, either reply_goes_to_list = Poster or reply_goes_to_list = Explicit address will be fine. The problem comes when they reply all because that will include the list. New message: Member = Held for moderation Admin message = Moderator There is no way to send this message to a specific person. What you can do is described in the FAQ, namely set member_moderation_action to Reject and set member_moderation_notice to text explaining that the message should be sent to Authorized recipient. However, this may impact the Reply: case -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only
Atkins, Brian CTR wrote: OK, I'm very close and have made many of the changes suggested both by Mark and from the FAQ. I have one last item I'm having trouble with. I have an explicit reply to address in place. If I set the member_moderation_action to 'discard', will the person/people in the explicit reply to header still get a copy of the message? What about 'reject'? Mailman will not send a copy of the post it received and discarded or rejected, but if the post is a reply or reply-all to some other list post it will probably be addressed to the explicit reply to address placed by Mailman in the Reply-To: header of the post to which this is a reply. Basically, You are suggesting to the user's MUA that replies to posts from the list should be sent to the explicit reply to address, but how this reply is actually addressed depends on the repliers MUA, whether the replier said 'reply', 'reply all' or 'reply list' (if available) and whether or how the replier edited the recipients of the message. All these things are beyond the control of Mailman and you. In short, if this is an original post to the list from a moderated member, it will be rejected or discarded by Mailman and the only Mailman notice will be to the poster (containing member_moderation_notice) in the case of reject. If this is a reply to a list post, it will probably be addressed only to the explicit reply to address or to that address and the list or to the list only depending on how the reply was generated. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a list for announcements only
Atkins, Brian CTR wrote: I'm trying to create a list so that 1 member and a select group of non-members can send out announcements with the replies coming back to the poster and limit the amount of email that the moderator/poster receives. I also want to have the ability to have members send to the list but messages go to a specific person rather than the list. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9. That should get you at least close to what you want. I should note that the primary poster is also a moderator, so he receives 2 e-mails for every reply, one for the actual reply and another from mailman telling him he has a post that is moderated. So what I want is: Announcement: Poster = List Reply: Member = Poster New message: Member = Authorized recipient This is the tricky part. See below. What I'm getting is: Announcement: Poster = List Reply: Member = Poster Admin message = Moderator If you set member_moderation_action to Reject or Discard, you won't get a held message or notice to the moderator. If you set first_strip_reply_to to Yes, reply_goes_to_list to Explicit address and reply_to_address as desired, you can get most replies to go to reply_to_address. This won't be the poster in all cases, but may be acceptable. If you rely on users to just reply, either reply_goes_to_list = Poster or reply_goes_to_list = Explicit address will be fine. The problem comes when they reply all because that will include the list. New message: Member = Held for moderation Admin message = Moderator There is no way to send this message to a specific person. What you can do is described in the FAQ, namely set member_moderation_action to Reject and set member_moderation_notice to text explaining that the message should be sent to Authorized recipient. However, this may impact the Reply: case -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
