Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtusertable with 2.1.7
Mel Sojka wrote: >Well I dumped the maillist-admin Gosh it is still in the aliases for >2.1.7 since I have created several list. Yes, there is still a -admin alias, but it is handled the same as -bounces, and Mailman never actually puts that address on anything. It basically only exists because for a brief time after converting from 2.0.x to 2.1.x, there might be bounces of posts sent under 2.0.x returned to the -admin address. >I guess the virtuser for >maillist-owner should be maillist-owner also. Yes, but assuming you need these at all you should have all 10 of them per list, but I still think you don't need any of them in virtusertable. In otherwords, when you put [EMAIL PROTECTED] list-xx in virtusertable, you are saying mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be delivered to local mailbox list-xx or via the local alias for list-xx if any, but if there is no such entry in virtusertable, the default for mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is deliver to local mailbox or via local alias for list-xx. So I still think that unless there is some conflict with a non-mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED], you don't need any of this in virtusertable. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtusertable with 2.1.7
Well I dumped the maillist-admin Gosh it is still in the aliases for 2.1.7 since I have created several list. I guess the virtuser for maillist-owner should be maillist-owner also. Made those changes see it that will clear up the little headache. Mark Sapiro wrote: >Mel Sojka wrote: > > > >>Well Mark what I have currently in the Virtusertable is >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]maillist-admin >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]maillist-request >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist-admin >> >> > >This one is definitely wrong. In Mailman 2.1.x, maillist-admin is a >deprecated name, and it goes to bounce processing, not to the owner. > > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist-bounces >> >> > > >I think you can remove all the above from virtusertable and remap it >unless you have a pontential conflict with a non-mailman address in >some other domain, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>But I just looked at some of the sendmail returns and I believe I did >>fix_url wrong for the two domains where the problems lie. It appears >>that fix_url was done to mail.aabb.com and not aabb.com if that would >>cause a problem. Going to have to study up on fix_url again it appears. >> >> > > >That could cause more than one problem, but I think even with the > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist-bounces > >entry in virtusertable, both [EMAIL PROTECTED] and >[EMAIL PROTECTED] will be delivered to mailman anyway, >the former by being redirected to the local maillist-bounces alias via >virtusertable and the latter by getting directly to the alias. > > > -- System Janitor/Network Plumber http://www.nwla.com Linux User #25446Linux 2.6.15 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtusertable with 2.1.7
Mel Sojka wrote: >Well Mark what I have currently in the Virtusertable is >[EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist >[EMAIL PROTECTED]maillist-admin >[EMAIL PROTECTED]maillist-request >[EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist-admin This one is definitely wrong. In Mailman 2.1.x, maillist-admin is a deprecated name, and it goes to bounce processing, not to the owner. >[EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist-bounces I think you can remove all the above from virtusertable and remap it unless you have a pontential conflict with a non-mailman address in some other domain, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] >But I just looked at some of the sendmail returns and I believe I did >fix_url wrong for the two domains where the problems lie. It appears >that fix_url was done to mail.aabb.com and not aabb.com if that would >cause a problem. Going to have to study up on fix_url again it appears. That could cause more than one problem, but I think even with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist-bounces entry in virtusertable, both [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be delivered to mailman anyway, the former by being redirected to the local maillist-bounces alias via virtusertable and the latter by getting directly to the alias. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtusertable with 2.1.7
Well Mark what I have currently in the Virtusertable is [EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist [EMAIL PROTECTED]maillist-admin [EMAIL PROTECTED]maillist-request [EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist-admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist-bounces But I just looked at some of the sendmail returns and I believe I did fix_url wrong for the two domains where the problems lie. It appears that fix_url was done to mail.aabb.com and not aabb.com if that would cause a problem. Going to have to study up on fix_url again it appears. -- System Janitor/Network Plumber http://www.nwla.com Linux User #25446Linux 2.6.15 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtusertable with 2.1.7
Mel Sojka wrote: >Well I am getting errors on incoming to the bounces aliases for the two >list that were upgraded. In 2.0 I had the list , the admin, request and >the owner (pointing to admin) in the virtusertable. I have all 10 of >the aliases for both these list in /etc/mail/aliases and newaliases of >course was run. What appears to be happening is when a post is made the >return from an old bad address is causing the problem, mail is going out >fine. Just filling up the postmasters mail box. I'm very weak on this so take it with "a grain of salt", but I think if there aren't issues with the list address local parts conflicting with non-mailman addresses, you don't need anything Mailman related in virtusertable as long as you have all the aliases (10 per list) in /etc/mail/aliases. Is this your current situation, or do you have Mailman related stuff in virtusertable? If so, what? Is the issue with VERP like returns to addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtusertable with 2.1.7
Well I am getting errors on incoming to the bounces aliases for the two list that were upgraded. In 2.0 I had the list , the admin, request and the owner (pointing to admin) in the virtusertable. I have all 10 of the aliases for both these list in /etc/mail/aliases and newaliases of course was run. What appears to be happening is when a post is made the return from an old bad address is causing the problem, mail is going out fine. Just filling up the postmasters mail box. Mel -- System Janitor/Network Plumber http://www.nwla.com Linux User #25446Linux 2.6.15 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtusertable with 2.1.7
Mel Sojka wrote: >Folks I upgraded from 2.0.8 to 2.1.7 and now getting some sendmail >returns that seem to point to the virtusertable. With the 10 aliases in >2.1.7 what exactly needs to go in the virtusertable to male sendmail >happy. The FAQ wizard caries me to 2.0 releases. Are you getting returns (bounces) on mail to list addresses or on mail from Mailman? I don't know exactly what should go in virtusertable - anything I would say would only be guessing - but I'm pretty sure it only affects incoming mail, not outgoing. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
