Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Mark Sapiro wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Daniel Carvalho wrote: the scripts didn't work - they always return empty lists... Maybe it's a problem with the python instalation iin my computer. I have updated the scripts at http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/mailman-subscribers.py and http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/mailman-subscribers.py. They now issue meaningful errors for invalid hostname, listname or password (in most cases - during testing, I intentionally garbled a domain name and got the non-existent list message instead of the error accessing URL message. Turns out that the garbled domain was a valid domain that has a Mailman installation. i was not given the list name in the correct format ( with _ and the domain). Now it is working! thanks daniel P.S: do you have more scrips?? :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Daniel Carvalho wrote: P.S: do you have more scrips?? :) Jim Tittsler has a couple at http://starship.python.net/crew/jwt/mailman/. Did you have something specific in mind? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Mark Sapiro wrote: Daniel Carvalho wrote: the scripts didn't work - they always return empty lists... Maybe it's a problem with the python instalation iin my computer. What version of Python do you have? Do the scripts issue any error? Note that if you mistype either the list name or the list password, you will get no output and no error message. I have updated the scripts at http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/mailman-subscribers.py and http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/mailman-subscribers.py. They now issue meaningful errors for invalid hostname, listname or password (in most cases - during testing, I intentionally garbled a domain name and got the non-existent list message instead of the error accessing URL message. Turns out that the garbled domain was a valid domain that has a Mailman installation.) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Dan Phillips wrote: On Apr 8, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Daniel Carvalho wrote: I would like to know that because i need to write a program to retrieve the members list, and i think the best way is to access the site with http and parse the result. It would be far more simple if it were everything in a single page... By the way, is there a program available, that does what i need? See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.062.htp A search through the FAQ and this list's archives will also turn up in instrucitons on increasing the size of the chunks in the web interface. Dan (I hadn't saw that faq! Only a small faq, which is also mentioned in the Mailman website.) the scripts didn't work - they always return empty lists... Maybe it's a problem with the python instalation iin my computer. I will find the way to increase the chunks and do the parsing myself. It would be wonderful if there were a webservice interface, as John suggested. It would be easy to integrate mailman with other applications. thanks daniel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Ed wrote: Reason I KNOW is that I have asked exactly them same question to which Mark S. hinted would be in 2.1.8.. Did I? I hope not, because it won't be. Possibly 2.2, but no promises. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Daniel Carvalho wrote: the scripts didn't work - they always return empty lists... Maybe it's a problem with the python instalation iin my computer. What version of Python do you have? Do the scripts issue any error? Note that if you mistype either the list name or the list password, you will get no output and no error message. If your Python version is pre 2.4, you need to install ClientCookie as mentioned in the 'help'. I will find the way to increase the chunks and do the parsing myself. To increase the chunksize, you need to change the list's admin_member_chunksize attribute, but since this isn't a web interface setting, if you could do it (with withlist or config_list), you could also run bin/list_members and you wouldn't have the need. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Did I? Yep. And actually said something like s/b easy. I hope not, because it won't be. Possibly 2.2, but no promises. Rats!! Now I currently have seven Lists goings and it IS a REAL PITA to have to sift thru A the B then C then D, the.etc.!! I really can't understand why it would be so difficult to offer the option for Administrator options within the Web Interface. 'Course that would also be the reason I can't offer something -;) !! And as of ONE minute ago I can actually offer a reason why a scroll page would be WAY handy for a Non-Shell administrator like me. A nitwit (aren't they allG) List member writes me direct and says Please un-subscribe me..! In this gents case I KNOW of SIX, repeat SIX e-mails accounts he uses. Do I know the very FIRST letter of the account he uses for his subscription?? No. So I have to go thru entire ALPHABET [page per letter at a time] to find it instead of just being able to scroll down a 60 member page. Which would you rather do??? Don't bother to answer because of your WONDERFUL replies to this List, mine is NOT worthy!!! Actually, serious, Mark. Thanks for ALL your wonderful and difficult work!!! Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Ed wrote: Did I? Yep. And actually said something like s/b easy. Well, it is easy in principle, at least once it's decided what it should look like, but i18n considerations make any new option more difficult (for the translators). Anyway, it's not all that bleak because 2.1.8rc1 is available now and the final is imminent, and after that, we'll be concentrating on features for 2.2. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Mark, being a FIRM beleiver in K.I.S.S., Well, it is easy in principle, at least once it's decided what it should look like, what would be wrong with just the same layouts and: Option #1 = Continous List (I think that it goes by alphabet???) = ONE page Option #2 = Alphabitized List = how ever many lettered folk are members (A, D, M, W, Z = 5?) ?? I ADMIT not to knowing!!! -:) Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Ed wrote: what would be wrong with just the same layouts and: Option #1 = Continous List (I think that it goes by alphabet???) = ONE page Option #2 = Alphabitized List = how ever many lettered folk are members (A, D, M, W, Z = 5?) Nothing. That's one idea and a perfectly valid one, but also see for example http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=782436group_id=103atid=350103, and http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1201160group_id=103atid=350103 for other ideas. Yet another possibility is to just allow setting admin_member_chunksize via the web interface, maybe with a setting of '0' meaning all members on one page. See John's post in this thread at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-April/050375.html for at some other ideas and some history. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Carvalho wrote: Is there a way to get all the members of a mailing list in a single page? Sometimes this is more convenient. FAQ 3.62: How do I extract a list of my list's members (subscribers)? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=membership+listquerytype=simplecasefold=yesreq=search - -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp == Learn from the mistakes of others--you can never live long enough to make them all yourself. -- John Luther -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iG0EARECAC0FAkQ4Qb0mGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucG9ib3guY29tL350bXovcGdwL3Rt ei5hc2MACgkQuv+09NZUB1oWtwCg2yGR2gR5kJoGzhZbqrCqivz+qaMAoKKIcz88 uD0zG6pDLr6VK2g8nsSe =x4AI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
Todd: Daniel Carvalho wrote: Is there a way to get all the members of a mailing list in a single page? Sometimes this is more convenient. FAQ 3.62: How do I extract a list of my list's members (subscribers)? Although that reply answers ONE of Daniel's question (which you do not cite), it does not answer the question above. Reason I KNOW is that I have asked exactly them same question to which Mark S. hinted would be in 2.1.8.. I also have only Interface Access and have some List with over a couple dozen which changes display to alphabetic Display ONLY and it IS a PITA -;) ! Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ed wrote: Todd: Daniel Carvalho wrote: Is there a way to get all the members of a mailing list in a single page? Sometimes this is more convenient. FAQ 3.62: How do I extract a list of my list's members (subscribers)? Although that reply answers ONE of Daniel's question (which you do not cite), it does not answer the question above. Are you discounting the roster option in the FAQ? Or does the limitation in that page of not showing hidden members make it useless for you? I also have only Interface Access and have some List with over a couple dozen which changes display to alphabetic Display ONLY and it IS a PITA -;) ! I don't disagree there. But I don't use mailman on systems where I don't have shell access very often, so it doesn't tend to get a chance to annoy me more than occasionally. :) - -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp == Most of one's life is one prolonged effort to prevent oneself thinking. -- Aldous Huxley -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iG0EARECAC0FAkQ4WtgmGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucG9ib3guY29tL350bXovcGdwL3Rt ei5hc2MACgkQuv+09NZUB1ouXwCeJzXOxuXPBjrcy7vL78p5cgRUp7oAn04ZtTRl Lr3d+QpQftjQOXzgQTxr =8iEn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
so it doesn't tend to get a chance to annoy me more than occasionally. :) YOU are lucky -:) !! Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] get members list
On 4/8/06 7:35 PM, Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so it doesn't tend to get a chance to annoy me more than occasionally. :) YOU are lucky -:) !! The continuing outcry against the old way was the reason the alphabetic way was tried. The old way produced pages of 30--I think--addresses (count was modifiable), with an index of available address ranges presented on each such page. For small lists, the two ways are equivalent (except for the odd-looking one-entry index if the old way showed that--I forget). For huge lists, the larger alphabetic pages get broken into parts anyhow, but at least there are fewer parts to consider. For in-between sizes, the amount of complaining seems to vary with the connection speed of the person(s) using the member list. Various ways to improve matters have been discussed. I tend to favor gathering initial characters (not always letters) together to make up one (configurable-max size) page. Even fairly large lists might have just one page devoted to addresses starting with digits, that way. The modern way would probably be to publish a web service which sends out the list in XML, and a couple of working sample programs which display according to different tastes, with the XML described clearly enough that more display programs would be written (and contributed, one hopes). --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
