Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
On Feb 11, 2007, at 6:12 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Actually, I meant unsubscribe_policy, but that isn't it anyway.. There is an issue with subscribe_policy, but it doesn't impact your present issue. It seems the policy is likely set to None, but the mm_cfg option ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE is set to No so the option doesn't appear on the page. Unless you really want open subscription without confirmation, I suggest setting the option you do want. That setting is intentional - this is a list with special needs (lots of cell phone subscribers who have much more trouble unsubbing than normal users). Is there anything in Mailman's 'vette' or 'subscribe' logs? Yes in vette: Feb 11 13:09:47 2007 (30321) replied and discard appears immediately when the request is received. The admin Autoresponder page has autorespond_requests set to Yes, w/discard so the response in autoresponse_request_text is sent and the request is discarded. Bingo - that was it! Many thanks Mark. Much appreciated. Scot -- Birdhouse Hosting Custom web and mail hosting services http://hosting.birdhouse.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
Scot Hacker wrote: Hmm... this is a cPanel system, First see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp and recognize from that that anything I tell you is only a guess. and the entire contents of /etc/ aliases is: mailman-admin: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/ mailman unsubscribe mailman mailman: /dev/null mailman-loopback: /dev/null owner-mailman: mailman-admin In other words, no references to specific lists, or to -leave for any specific list, are in that file. Maybe cPanel keeps a separate aliases file somewhere, but I couldn't locate it if it does. Any cPanel experts have a clue where the equivalent file is? What is your MTA? Your MTA's configuration would probably indicate what it is doing. If it is Postfix (or even if not), you might find aliases in /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/data/. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
On Feb 11, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Scot Hacker wrote: Hmm... this is a cPanel system, OK, found 'em. For the archives: On cPanel systems, Mailman aliases are stored in /etc/valiases/[domain] So now back to the original problem... for the domain in question, where sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] results in the user getting back a Not allowed to post message rather than an unsub confirmation, the line looks totally normal: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/ mailman leave listname_domain.com So that looks fine, and has never been altered. Sending a message to listname-unsubscribe has the same result as listname-leave. Other theories? Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
Scot Hacker wrote: OK, found 'em. For the archives: On cPanel systems, Mailman aliases are stored in /etc/valiases/[domain] So now back to the original problem... for the domain in question, where sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] results in the user getting back a Not allowed to post message rather than an unsub confirmation, the line looks totally normal: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/ mailman leave listname_domain.com So that looks fine, and has never been altered. Sending a message to listname-unsubscribe has the same result as listname-leave. Other theories? Is the user removed from the list? What is in the list's General Options-goodbye_msg and the send_goodbye_msg flag? What is the setting for the list's Privacy options...-Subscription rules-subscribe_policy? Does this generate a pending request in adminbd? Is there anything in Mailman's 'vette' or 'subscribe' logs? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
On Feb 11, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Is the user removed from the list? No. What is in the list's General Options-goodbye_msg and the send_goodbye_msg flag? One line of plain text. It's set to Yes. What is the setting for the list's Privacy options...-Subscription rules-subscribe_policy? Hmm... None of the three options are checked. Does this generate a pending request in adminbd? No. Is there anything in Mailman's 'vette' or 'subscribe' logs? Yes in vette: Feb 11 13:09:47 2007 (30321) replied and discard appears immediately when the request is received. Nothing in subscribe log. Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
Scot Hacker wrote: On Feb 11, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: What is the setting for the list's Privacy options...-Subscription rules-subscribe_policy? Hmm... None of the three options are checked. Actually, I meant unsubscribe_policy, but that isn't it anyway.. There is an issue with subscribe_policy, but it doesn't impact your present issue. It seems the policy is likely set to None, but the mm_cfg option ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE is set to No so the option doesn't appear on the page. Unless you really want open subscription without confirmation, I suggest setting the option you do want. Is there anything in Mailman's 'vette' or 'subscribe' logs? Yes in vette: Feb 11 13:09:47 2007 (30321) replied and discard appears immediately when the request is received. The admin Autoresponder page has autorespond_requests set to Yes, w/discard so the response in autoresponse_request_text is sent and the request is discarded. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
Scot Hacker wrote: On one of my lists, when a subscriber sends a message to listname- [EMAIL PROTECTED], instead of the unsub confirmation, they get back the Sorry, you're not allowed to post to this list message (it's configured as a one-way list). Any idea what could cause this? The alias or whatever your MTA uses to get the mail to Mailman for the listname-leave address pipes the mail to /path/to/mail/mailman post listname instead of /path/to/mail/mailman leave listname -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-leave - wrong response
On Feb 10, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On one of my lists, when a subscriber sends a message to listname- [EMAIL PROTECTED], instead of the unsub confirmation, they get back the Sorry, you're not allowed to post to this list message (it's configured as a one-way list). Any idea what could cause this? The alias or whatever your MTA uses to get the mail to Mailman for the listname-leave address pipes the mail to /path/to/mail/mailman post listname instead of /path/to/mail/mailman leave listname Hmm... this is a cPanel system, and the entire contents of /etc/ aliases is: mailman-admin: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/ mailman unsubscribe mailman mailman: /dev/null mailman-loopback: /dev/null owner-mailman: mailman-admin In other words, no references to specific lists, or to -leave for any specific list, are in that file. Maybe cPanel keeps a separate aliases file somewhere, but I couldn't locate it if it does. Any cPanel experts have a clue where the equivalent file is? Thanks, Scot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
