Re: [MlMt] icloud problem resolved!
On 2 Jan 2014, at 23:55, Annamarie wrote: OMG! It's finally working. For future users: After I got the right settings from Apple: https://www.apple.com/support/macosx/mailassistant/ it still wasn't working. I decided to try creating a new email account. That did it. Sorry for not replying earlier on. I'm glad you found a solution. I assume that when you write “creating a new email account” then you mean re-creating it in MailMate (and not creating a new iCloud account at Apple). (No need to reply if this assumption is correct.) Thanks for the link to the mailassistant. I had not seen that before. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Select Duplicates
On 2 Jan 2014, at 17:59, Shawn Morris wrote: Is this functionality broken? When I select it in a mailbox with known duplicates, it seems to select nothing. How is it determining duplicates? I assume Message-ID, but if it's trying to build some kind of tuple of (from,to,subject,date) i could see why that wouldn't work. I have a lot of messages where I'm receiving copies through multiple mailing lists and I'm not able to de-duplicate on the server-side. It's not broken, but it's a bit primitive/inflexible. It is based on `Message-ID` *and* message size. I would actually like it to be more strict by basing it on a message digest value to make sure the messages are identical, but you need it to be less strict. Using the `selectWithFilter:` custom key binding it would be possible to make something based on `Message-ID` only. It would work differently though: * it would be based on the currently selected message * it would select all messages instead of all-but-one (which is how the menu item works to make it easy to delete duplicates without deleting the “original”). It's difficult to make the menu item work in a way that is suitable for all use cases. It might make more sense to implement the necessary “building blocks” to do this using a bundle command (2.0 feature). (These are building blocks needed anyways.) That would allow customizing it to behave any way you like *and* make it happen automatically using a rule on incoming messages. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] icloud problem resolved!
it's okay - I figured you were busy. Assumption correct about recreating the account in MM. I did get a helpful direct response from someone about how to delete the bad account. Sources not immediately obvious to me as the location. You might want to have something in the Help to say so? Mailassistant link came from the Apple guy. I hadn't seen it either. I'm loving the Smart Folder Mailing Lists. You are changing how I use email. : ) I can see that there's lots more to use. Annamarie On 3 Jan 2014, at 5:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 2 Jan 2014, at 23:55, Annamarie wrote: OMG! It's finally working. For future users: After I got the right settings from Apple: https://www.apple.com/support/macosx/mailassistant/ it still wasn't working. I decided to try creating a new email account. That did it. Sorry for not replying earlier on. I'm glad you found a solution. I assume that when you write “creating a new email account” then you mean re-creating it in MailMate (and not creating a new iCloud account at Apple). (No need to reply if this assumption is correct.) Thanks for the link to the mailassistant. I had not seen that before. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused about tags
When I select a group of messages, press t to open the tagging field, and apply the tag mailmate, nothing is tagged. When I select any message from the group, it has no tag. Nothing appears in the header, and nothing appears when I press t. The problem turned out to be an elementary misunderstanding of the interface on my part. When I apply a tag and press return, the tag appears outlined in the tag field, and I believed it was applied at that point. When I then clicked away from the selection and returned to one of the messages I thought I had tagged, I found the tag was not applied. Instead, of course, you must press return twice to apply a tag—once to confirm the selected tag (upon which it becomes outlined) and once to apply the changes to the message on the server. I did not intuit this. Why did I have success tagging individual items and not a multiple selection? I'm not sure. I probably blundered into the correct workflow without understanding it. Thanks for your response! John On 3 Jan 2014, at 7:54, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: When I select a message individually, I can apply the tag and it shows up later. What do you mean by “later”? This might be a hint since it should appear immediately. But I would like to be able to apply tags in bulk. Is there something I'm not understanding? No, I think it should work as you expect. Something is not working correctly. You can enable the “Raw Flags” column in the messages outline in order to follow changes more closely. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused about tags
On 3 Jan 2014, at 15:22, John Cooper wrote: Instead, of course, you must press return twice to apply a tag—once to confirm the selected tag (upon which it becomes outlined) and once to apply the changes to the message on the server. I did not intuit this. Oh, I didn't think of that. Someone else reported this recently and I improved it such that selecting another message also commits the tag changes. You can hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane if you want to try it out. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused about tags
On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com wrote: On 3 Jan 2014, at 15:22, John Cooper wrote: Instead, of course, you must press return twice to apply a tag—once to confirm the selected tag (upon which it becomes outlined) and once to apply the changes to the message on the server. I did not intuit this. It took me a couple tries to figure that out as well. (Once I figured out that pressing T would bring up the option, I kept expecting an contextual menu or something in Edit). I'm not sure how one light change it, it's a reasonable interface once you know it, but there is that initial learning curve.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Moving large IMAP folders
Is there in fact an underlying IMAP command to move a folder hierarchy (as opposed to rename)? Or if I tell MailMate to move a folder, is it going to copy and delete? Having imported a few gig or so of local email, I now want to reorganize, and I'm trying to figure out the most optimal way. I can do it via MailMate, or I could do it via my webmail interface, where the move would be efficient, but then MailMate might download everything all over again. Is one way going to be better than another? If both ways are going to result in copying data, it seems like the server case might be the most efficient. --iPhoned ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] What is the equivalent command for the thread toolbar button.
Hello and happy new year. I'm kicking the tires on MailMate and am loving it so far -- I especially appreciate the extra work done recently to better accommodate gmail labels (among many other things). A few questions: (1) I feel like I'm missing something obvious (sorry for that), but I can't find the equivalent menu item to get the thread view achieved by clicking the Thread button in the toolbar. Same goes for the Correspondence button, too. I really just want to drop into those views via some keyboard shortcut, but I guess the first step is to find them in the Menu bar :-) (2) Are there plans to somehow show the tags for a given message in message-list component, somehow? Perhaps add an option to show a tags column. Or maybe show the tags in the subject column (preceding the subject itself) in a similar way that is done in the gmail web client? Although we can view the tags in the headers of the message when it is selected, I think it could be handy to be able to see the tags per message en-masse. Thanks for what looks to be a great email client. -steve -- Steve Lianoglou Computational Biologist Genentech ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Moving large IMAP folders
On 3 Jan 2014, at 17:08, Kee Hinckley wrote: Is there in fact an underlying IMAP command to move a folder hierarchy (as opposed to rename)? Or if I tell MailMate to move a folder, is it going to copy and delete? It is going to be copy and delete. Many servers though do that just as efficiently as if it was a move (but not all servers). Having imported a few gig or so of local email, I now want to reorganize, and I'm trying to figure out the most optimal way. I can do it via MailMate, or I could do it via my webmail interface, where the move would be efficient, but then MailMate might download everything all over again. Is one way going to be better than another? If both ways are going to result in copying data, it seems like the server case might be the most efficient. Renaming a large mailbox might also result in quota issues on the server since some servers are going to measure each message twice until the originals are deleted. It's probably safer to do this on the server while it's more efficient (for MailMate) to do it locally. In any case, it'll at most be efficient for 1 instance of 1 email client using the account. All other email clients are going to delete and fetch just like if you reorganize on the server. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
