Re: [MlMt] Keybindings for "Thread" and "Correspondence"

2016-03-04 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 4 Mar 2016, at 21:06, Jack Brannen wrote:

But I find these don't work the same way as the thread and 
correspondence BUTTONS in that they filter the current folder only. 
The buttons filter all messages automatically.


Can I make the keybindings work like the buttons and filter all 
messages?


The problem is probably that your shortcuts include a modifier key which 
MailMate picks up to mean that you want to stay in the current mailbox. 
I don't currently have a solution for that other than changing the 
shortcut.


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Re: [MlMt] Can I change the arrow glyph in the Correspondents column?

2016-03-04 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 4 Mar 2016, at 17:24, Sam Hathaway wrote:


On 4 Mar 2016, at 5:08 AM EST, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

I've replaced it with something simpler


Thanks! But where and when can I see the change?


It's a minor change and I haven't uploaded a new test release. When I do 
then you can fetch it by holding down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” 
in the Software Update preferences pane. It has to be a revision newer 
than r5227 to include this change.


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[MlMt] Keybindings for "Thread" and "Correspondence"

2016-03-04 Thread Jack Brannen
I configured my keybindings to include commands to show the thread and 
correspondence views, as included here:


http://protips.maxmasnick.com/mailmate-my-custom-keybindings

But I find these don't work the same way as the thread and 
correspondence BUTTONS in that they filter the current folder only. The 
buttons filter all messages automatically.


Can I make the keybindings work like the buttons and filter all 
messages?


Thanks!
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Re: [MlMt] Can I change the arrow glyph in the Correspondents column?

2016-03-04 Thread Sam Hathaway
On 4 Mar 2016, at 5:08 AM EST, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
> I've replaced it with something simpler

Thanks! But where and when can I see the change?
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Re: [MlMt] CardDAV multi address book support?

2016-03-04 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 4 Mar 2016, at 9:16, Mike Brasch wrote:

the CardDAV server at Fastmail supports multiple address books per 
account. Alongside the "Default" adress book I want to use another one 
for my job. While it is not accessible via OSX adressbook and Fastmail 
web-frontend, it is via BusyContacts on OSX and via CardDAV-Adapter/DW 
Contacts on Android.


It would be nice if MM could lookup for addresses in all address books 
and not only in "Default".


If Contacts can be configured to access the other address books then it 
should also work in MailMate — although I think this is based on using 
a private Apple API (which means it's a fragile feature). Have you tried 
adding the CardDAV accounts to Contacts?


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Re: [MlMt] Can I change the arrow glyph in the Correspondents column?

2016-03-04 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 4 Mar 2016, at 3:35, Sam Hathaway wrote:

Messages I send have a right-facing arrow glyph in the Correspondents 
column. To me, it looks too large and dark compared to the surrounding 
text. Can I tell MailMate to use a glyph that I find more 
aesthetically pleasing?


It's possible to redefine the correspondence column, but this is a low 
level feature. I agree that it's not looking very good and I've replaced 
it with something simpler. If you don't like it then we can return to 
the subject of custom columns.


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Re: [MlMt] Query to show mails that are responses to mail I sent ?

2016-03-04 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 3 Mar 2016, at 19:29, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

Is there a way to have smart folder that show me mails that are 
(direct or indirect) unread responses to any mail I've written ?


Indirect?

Something like:

Tags/Keywords do not include Seen
In-Reply-To is in [Sent Messages] Message-ID

Alternatively, use

Thread-ID is in [Sent Messages] Thread-ID

if that matches your definition of “indirect”.

This is to avoid having to go through all my folders looking for what 
I should respond to first ;)


Hmm, I'm not really sure how that fits the above, but if it works for 
you :-)


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Re: [MlMt] MmSMTPUTF8Enabled

2016-03-04 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 4 Mar 2016, at 0:57, Philip Paeps wrote:

I already found at least one server that doesn't like SMTPUTF8. :)  I 
was a little surprised that when I sent a test (or more accurately 
"tëst") email from MailMate with SMTPUTF8 enabled through my server 
which supports SMTPUTF8 (now) to a third mailserver, I get a bounce 
complaining about SMTPUTF8 not being supported on the third server.  I 
would have expected my mailserver to have made appropriate noises to 
the third mailserver.  Clearly not a MailMate problem though.


It seems that is legal behavior, but it's the easy way out in the 
[RFC](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6531#section-3.2).


When MailMate encounters an SMTP server without SMTPUTF8 then it 
re-encodes all the headers of the email to be sent. Postfix is allowed 
to do the same. Postfix is also allowed to reject the message 
immediately. With a proper response that would have allowed MailMate to 
do the conversion and try again.


Given that Google supports SMTPUTF8 I would have expected it to have 
worked better. Have you tried sending with Google SMTP to see how it 
handles the same problem?


The same "tëst" message does make it through Postfix and Dovecot to 
my mailbox as long as I don't try to send it across the internet. :)


Not much of a success, but I guess it's a first step :-)

I wanted to try out my فيليب@trouble.is alias, but it turns out 
the To: field in MailMate isn't too happy about bidirectional email 
addresses.  I can type (or paste) فيليب, but it wants to put the 
@ on the left of the ف rather than the right of ب.  There seems to 
be no way to convince the To: field of that (ridiculous -- but real!) 
email address.


Amazingly, if I paste فيليب@trouble.is, the email bounces, but 
... if I paste trouble.is@فيليب it works. :)


Well, if you ignore what is displayed and then take a look at the raw 
message (⌥⌘U) then it does generate this:


To: فيليب@trouble.is

So I think MailMate is probably behaving mostly correctly as far as I 
can tell with an afternoon of testing.  Except for some bidirectional 
oddities.  But those might just be "Apple".


At least it's not obvious to me that I can do anything about it (but I 
probably know too little about bidirectional text).


I think I'll need to tame Postfix on my relay to make appropriate 
noises to servers on the internet that don't speak SMTPUTF8 though.


If it can be told to reject messages immediately when the destination 
server does not support SMTPUTF8 then I could look into making retry 
with a re-encoded message. That might make SMTPUTF8 more useful in 
practice. Current behavior (the bounce) makes it impossible to send the 
message with MailMate.



I'll keep the option on for the time being to see what breaks.


Thanks! I don't really have time for this myself.

PS: Happily, there is no "m" in my name, so I can't try out any of the 
delightful zero-width non-joiners. ;)


I'm just going to ignore that :)

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[MlMt] CardDAV multi address book support?

2016-03-04 Thread Mike Brasch

Moin moin Benny,

the CardDAV server at Fastmail supports multiple address books per 
account. Alongside the "Default" adress book I want to use another one 
for my job. While it is not accessible via OSX adressbook and Fastmail 
web-frontend, it is via BusyContacts on OSX and via CardDAV-Adapter/DW 
Contacts on Android.


It would be nice if MM could lookup for addresses in all address books 
and not only in "Default".


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