Re: [MlMt] Finger slip deleted a mailbox - how recover?

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 25 Feb 2019, at 0:24, Roger Bohn wrote:

Sorry about the late response.

Twice in the last week, my finger has “slipped” on the trackpad 
(MacBook pro). Somehow it led to a mailbox being deleted. I have no 
idea how my cursor move was interpreted to reach this result. Could it 
be a new bug?


If it is then it's likely somehow related to the re-implemented mailbox 
list, but I haven't done any functional changes with respect to deleting 
mailboxes. MailMate should explicitly warn you if you use “Mailbox ▸ 
Delete Mailbox” on a non-empty mailbox. Maybe it's more likely that 
you moved the mailbox as suggested by another list member.



In any case, how do I stop a mailbox deletion midstream?


If it's a move then it's probably best to wait for it to complete and 
then move it back. An actual mailbox deletion (with the warning) would 
be fast and non-reversible. You would have to find the emails in the 
local backup of your machine.



Will “Synchronize” rebuild it?


No, this just forces MailMate to do a quick check for server-side 
changes to the mailbox. It's usually not doing anything, because such a 
sync is also done when selecting an IMAP mailbox.


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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 
On 22 Feb 2019, at 23:22, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

> but after restarting nothing seem to happen

Currently only works on the 1.x branch.

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Re: [MlMt] pre-populating the in-message search text

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 25 Feb 2019, at 15:16, Eric Sharakan wrote:


On 31 Jan 2019, at 5:01, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Also, when this happens, often the pre-populated search term is not 
in the message, which then produces an alert sound.  It's a bit 
jarring to get that alert sound just by typing Cmd-F in a message.


That's a bug. Thanks for noticing. It should be fixed in the next 
update.


FYI, I still experience this issue in r5609.


Sorry, I think I only fixed one half of the issue. I'll note to look 
into it again.


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Re: [MlMt] Enigmail Encrypted Subject

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 22 Feb 2019, at 14:20, Jan Münnich wrote:


On 21 Feb 2019, at 14:50, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Hmm, maybe not. I'm certainly willing to look into it. The best way 
to make me look at this is to use “Help ▸ Send Feedback” to 
send me an encrypted example message :)


Is there a PGP Key for mm-feedb...@freron.com so I can send you an 
encrypted message?


Yes, that should work. It recently expired though and I had to update 
it. It seems I forgot to upload the updated key and for some reason that 
doesn't seem to work right now... I'll try again later in case it's a 
temporary issue.


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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 28 Feb 2019, at 20:18, John Cooper wrote:


but after restarting nothing seem to happen


Same here.


You need the latest test release of 1.x (hold down ⌥ when clicking 
“Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane).


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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 26 Feb 2019, at 14:02, Charlie Garrison wrote:

It's not working for me though; would that be due to me using a beta 
version rather than latest 1.x release?


Yes, I *think* I noted that in my initial email, but I might be wrong :)

Semi-related question, is there a way to view the rendered html in the 
headers? During this I noted that earlier custom changes I made to 
headersFormatting.plist are not working as expected. Suggestions for 
troubleshooting it?


Yes, focus the view by clicking on it and then hit ⌃⌘U just like you 
can do it for the main message view.


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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 26 Feb 2019, at 15:05, Compass Luca Cignacco wrote:

Instead of gravatar is it possible to use the website icon? It would 
be nice…


Here's one way to accomplish that:

{
		formatString = "src=\"https://besticon-demo.herokuapp.com/icon?url=${from.domain}&size=16..64..64\"/>";

},

(I googled and found [this 
service](https://github.com/mat/besticon/blob/master/Readme.markdown) 
used above.)


A quick test (for my incoming mail) doesn't work as well as the 
gravatar.


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Re: [MlMt] Multiple criteria for submailbox

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 1 Mar 2019, at 4:48, Randy H. Tjahjono wrote:

I want to create a submailbox for each unique value of `To > Address`. 
However, for all messages where my address is not in the `To` field, 
MailMate puts the messages in an _Other_ submailbox. Is it possible to 
add another criteria for creating a submailbox so that I can search 
for a different header when the `To` header doesn't contain my email?


That depends on where that address is. You might want to use 
“Recipient” or “Any Address” instead of “To”.


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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 28 Feb 2019, at 20:13, Giovanni Lanzani wrote:


On 22 Feb 2019, at 23:22, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


I copied the file so I have this:

```
$ ls ~/Library/Application\ Support/MailMate/Resources/Layouts
Mailboxes
headersFormatting.plist
```

but after restarting nothing seem to happen


Same here.


You seem to be using a release of MailMate which should work with this 
hack. You can use “View ▸ Show HTML Source” after focusing the 
headers view to see if the HTML code generated includes a reference to 
the Gravatar site.


(It's just a hack so tracking down issues is not a very high priority ;) 
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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 1 Mar 2019, at 1:35, Aslak Raanes wrote:


On 21 Feb 2019, at 15:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

I still haven't integrated MailMate with images from Contacts, but I 
realized that it was fairly easy to use the 
[Gravatar](https://www.gravatar.com) service.


One alternative could be use [Libravatar](https://www.libravatar.org/) 
and its [federated api](https://wiki.libravatar.org/api/) which makes 
it possible to run your own avatar server.


I didn't know that one. It does work:

{
formatString = "src=\"https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/${from.address.#md5}\"/>";

},

(But it appears to be slower which emphasizes that MailMate does not 
cache these images.)


Since MailMate doesn't support the federated api (yet) one could use 
Apache installed on macOS to redirect or reverse proxy to different 
avatar servers.


Thanks for sharing. That is definitely taking the hack to new heights :)

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Re: [MlMt] Delete folders under "All mesasges"

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 1 Mar 2019, at 15:44, i...@compass.udine.it wrote:


I have two folders under “All messages”

![](cid:A138DEC4-A262-4821-9820-D55FD1AE8178@compass.udine.it 
"Schermata 2019-03-01 alle 15.40.48.png")


Is is possible to delete it safely ?


No, not currently.

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Re: [MlMt] Field "From > Customize..." not saving...

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 
On 1 Mar 2019, at 17:16, Michael Nietzold wrote:

> Maybe an Checkbox would be nice in this place:
>
> [X] save this eMail in eMail Account

Noted.

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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread John Cooper 

Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote (at 1:39 on 3 Mar 2019):


On 26 Feb 2019, at 14:02, Charlie Garrison wrote:

It's not working for me though; would that be due to me using a beta 
version rather than latest 1.x release?


Yes, I *think* I noted that in my initial email, but I might be wrong 
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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Charlie Garrison 

On 3 Mar 2019, at 20:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 26 Feb 2019, at 14:02, Charlie Garrison wrote:

It's not working for me though; would that be due to me using a beta 
version rather than latest 1.x release?


Yes, I  _think_  I noted that in my initial email, but I might be 
wrong :)


Yes, you said the latest release was needed, but didn't mention the 2.x 
series. And you didn't say whether the latest version was needed to 
support Gravatar or the headersFormatting.plist file. I know the 2.x 
series supports the headersFormatting.plist file, so figured it must 
also support the Gravatar hack (since it's just additional html).


Thanks,
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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Charlie Garrison 

On 4 Mar 2019, at 1:12, John Cooper wrote:


You did.


You must know more than me then. I found the following to be ambiguous:


The attached file needs to be saved in this folder:

/Users//Application 
Support/MailMate/Resources/Layouts/headersFormatting.plist


You might need to create Resources and Layouts and you currently need 
the latest test release of MailMate 1.x for this to work: Hold down 
⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences 
pane.


I read that as needing the latest release for the 
headersFormatting.plist. So I tried it, and it didn't work, and I asked 
for clarification.


Next time I won't do that; I'll just ask the crystal ball instead of 
getting snark from this list.


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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread John Cooper 

Charlie Garrison wrote (at 17:08 on 3 Mar 2019):


On 4 Mar 2019, at 1:12, John Cooper wrote:


You did.


You must know more than me then. I found the following to be 
ambiguous:


... you currently need the latest test release of MailMate 1.x for 
this to work...


I don't find this ambiguous.

Next time I won't do that; I'll just ask the crystal ball instead of 
getting snark from this list. 


I never addressed you, much less indulged in snark. I regret that you 
were offended.

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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Bill Cole 

On 3 Mar 2019, at 6:22, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 1 Mar 2019, at 1:35, Aslak Raanes wrote:


On 21 Feb 2019, at 15:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

I still haven't integrated MailMate with images from Contacts, but I 
realized that it was fairly easy to use the 
[Gravatar](https://www.gravatar.com) service.


One alternative could be use 
[Libravatar](https://www.libravatar.org/) and its [federated 
api](https://wiki.libravatar.org/api/) which makes it possible to run 
your own avatar server.


I didn't know that one. It does work:

{
formatString = "src=\"https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/${from.address.#md5}\"/>";

},

(But it appears to be slower which emphasizes that MailMate does not 
cache these images.)




PSA:

This is also a reminder that no matter which "service" of these you use, 
this "feature" is literally telling a third party who's email you are 
reading, every time you read an email.


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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 4 Mar 2019, at 2:03, Charlie Garrison wrote:


On 3 Mar 2019, at 20:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 26 Feb 2019, at 14:02, Charlie Garrison wrote:

It's not working for me though; would that be due to me using a beta 
version rather than latest 1.x release?


Yes, I  _think_  I noted that in my initial email, but I might be 
wrong :)


Yes, you said the latest release was needed, but didn't mention the 
2.x series. And you didn't say whether the latest version was needed 
to support Gravatar or the headersFormatting.plist file. I know the 
2.x series supports the headersFormatting.plist file, so figured it 
must also support the Gravatar hack (since it's just additional html).


That makes sense, but the additional HTML requires the calculation of an 
`md5` value which is currently only supported by the 1.x test releases.


As already established in this thread, I made several mistakes in my 
original description of the hack. I'm very sorry about that. The hack 
itself was never intended to be more than something that a few users 
might want to play with. I'll try to be more careful in the future 
when/if sharing such hacks.


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Re: [MlMt] Gravatar-hack for MailMate

2019-03-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 4 Mar 2019, at 2:08, Charlie Garrison wrote:

I read that as needing the latest release for the 
headersFormatting.plist. So I tried it, and it didn't work, and I 
asked for clarification.


Next time I won't do that; I'll just ask the crystal ball instead of 
getting snark from this list.


I'm not sure if this is about my short response to your problem with 
making it work. If it was then I'm sorry I wasn't more helpful.


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