Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:

2021-01-12 Thread Randy Bush
> ryuu.rg.net:/Users/randy> defaults read com.freron.MailMate 
> MmDefaultBccHeader
> {
>   "fr...@arrcus.com" = "b...@arrcus.com";
>   "f...@psg.com" = "b...@psg.com";
> }
> 
> when i am in the arrcus.com INBOX and c(ompose, the compose window shows
> that the message will be "From: ra...@arrcus.com"
> 
> but the received message is "From: ra...@psg.com"
> 
> From: "Randy Bush" 
> Subject: test 2
> To: "Randy Bush" 
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 14:07:24 -0800

i watched more closely

  mm changed the displayed in gui From: (from ra...@arrcus.com to
  ra...@psg.com) when i typed the to: ra...@psg.com.

randy
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[MlMt] incorrect From:

2021-01-12 Thread Randy Bush
i have

ryuu.rg.net:/Users/randy> defaults read com.freron.MailMate 
MmDefaultBccHeader
{
"fr...@arrcus.com" = "b...@arrcus.com";
"f...@psg.com" = "b...@psg.com";
}

when i am in the arrcus.com INBOX and c(ompose, the compose window shows
that the message will be "From: ra...@arrcus.com"

but the received message is "From: ra...@psg.com"

From: "Randy Bush" 
Subject: test 2
To: "Randy Bush" 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 14:07:24 -0800
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Re: [MlMt] BCC contact visibility on sent messages

2021-01-12 Thread Raza Rizvi

On 12 Jan 2021, at 16:25, Jan Erik Moström wrote:


On 12 Jan 2021, at 17:00, Raza Rizvi wrote:


Am I right, or is this as it should be?


Since the email is sent to the server who distributes it, it is 
reasonable to assume that the email you receive from the server 
doesn't include other BCC addresses (that would be a bug in the mail 
server in my opinion).


Thanks for your quick reply (and Sebastian).

I think overwork has made me slightly disorientated. Yes the server copy 
does of course include the original BCC list (and for some reason I was 
looking at the BCCed on to myself, and not the original that passed 
through Gmail - for this example)


Raza
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Re: [MlMt] BCC contact visibility on sent messages

2021-01-12 Thread Jan Erik Moström

On 12 Jan 2021, at 17:00, Raza Rizvi wrote:


Am I right, or is this as it should be?


Since the email is sent to the server who distributes it, it is 
reasonable to assume that the email you receive from the server doesn't 
include other BCC addresses (that would be a bug in the mail server in 
my opinion).


= jem
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Re: [MlMt] BCC contact visibility on sent messages

2021-01-12 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
On 12 Jan 2021, at 17:00, Raza Rizvi wrote:

> I just noticed that in r5757 (but this could be by design) that when a mail 
> is sent to BCC addressees and the sender includes themselves on the BCC (I do 
> this automatically using the documented hidden preference) that one cannot 
> see the BCC senders to whom the message was sent when the message is viewed 
> by the sender.
>
> That seems both correct and illogical at the same time. I am sure that with 
> other mail clients the same behaviour lets me see who I have BCCed the 
> message to after it has been sent.
>
> Am I right, or is this as it should be?

That is definitely as it should be if you are referring to a copy you have 
received via BCC. However, a copy stored in sent-mail or wherever you store 
outgoing messages could and should have that information, and I just verified 
that it does with r5757.
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[MlMt] BCC contact visibility on sent messages

2021-01-12 Thread Raza Rizvi

Hello,

I just noticed that in r5757 (but this could be by design) that when a 
mail is sent to BCC addressees and the sender includes themselves on the 
BCC (I do this automatically using the documented hidden preference) 
that one cannot see the BCC senders to whom the message was sent when 
the message is viewed by the sender.


That seems both correct and illogical at the same time. I am sure that 
with other mail clients the same behaviour lets me see who I have BCCed 
the message to after it has been sent.


Am I right, or is this as it should be?

Raza

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