Re: [MlMt] Non MM related question about email hosting and web hosting
Apologies for the rather long period of silence. Thanks for the heads-up, I hadn’t notice the wording or the pricing at Netlify. I did notice the discussion about EagleFiler and I have been since then looking at various ways (including using a RaspberryPi) to setup a local network storage at home as I do not own a desktop and have no plans of getting one. This might help kill a few birds, - offload emails to a secure backup at home, - function as a TimeMachine backup at home, - media/audio server for the speakers to play music/podcasts. On 7 Jan 2019, at 3:59, Rick Cogley wrote: > Hello - > >> email host and simple web host for personal, non-commercial use … >> static website… >> price b/w 70-100 USD > > I have been using Webfaction for a long time, but they got bought by GoDaddy, > a move which I’m not comfortable with. They have been fine for both email and > web/app hosting, for the many years I’ve used them and, they have great > support. > > That being said I’m thinking about changing to something else and both Gandi > and MediaTemple look good for shared hosting. I use Hugo for many sites, and > host many of those on Amazon AWS S3 with Cloudfront. It’s trivial and cheap > to host static on S3. Hugo’s own Bep coded an excellent utility that works > perfectly in an rsync-like way, to get your static files up to S3. > https://github.com/bep/s3deploy > > I’ve recently moved my private email to host on Mailfence which has good PGP > support, and so far, they’ve been very clear and straight with what they can > and cannot do. The support has been excellent. Their service also includes > calendar, contacts and a file store, so that you can move away from something > like Gmail. When I researched it, ProtonMail needs a helper app on the > desktop, to allow you to use IMAP apparently, and this helper supports only > certain mailers. I dropped them from consideration when I heard that, because > I was set on using Mailmate and unwilling to spend the time to test. > > A lot of the email services in Europe make the point about their being non-US > and therefore less subject to the possibility of invasive monitoring. They > all support S/MIME or PGP in their browser apps, which is a nice convenience > to be able to encrypt if you’re away from your main mailer. But, to me the > main point is not the availability of PGP in their apps but rather their > businesses’ locations. I can use PGP in Mailmate and in Canary on iOS, > without regard to service. > > I would be wary of Fastmail and linked services, given what’s happening > vis-à-vis privacy in Australia. > > Re mailbox size, well, you’re always going to hit a limit and keep having to > pay more (after all, private mail providers are businesses which are not > benefiting from your attention to their ads), so I would recommend a regiment > of offloading your old emails to disk, via something like EagleFiler. Some > kind soul even made a bundle in MM for it. > > You don’t mention the time unit for your price range but I can say: > > * Mailfence is ~ USD 3-4 per month > * Webfaction has been ~ USD 10 per month > * Static site on A3 is honestly negligible if low traffic and low file volume > (but, it ain’t apache so you have to get used to some things) > > Re Netlify, it is indeed slick & tempting, but the free level requires > payment for add-ons, such as the one that allows password protection. If you > want that sort of thing included by default, it jumps to the "Team Pro" level > (smallest level) @ USD 45/mo. > > Just some food for thought. > > -- > Rick Cogley > M: +81-90-9959-5452 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non MM related question about email hosting and web hosting
As you rightly mention, I would be in complete control. I would have loved this option if I had more time on my hands to ensure I could do this well. -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com On 7 Jan 2019, at 1:16, Randall Gellens wrote: > On 5 Jan 2019, at 9:57, Bharath M Palavalli wrote: > >> - Due to logistical reasons I cannot self-host a box at home. Also, I would >> like to host my email and the static website with two different providers as >> a failsafe. > > Another option, with its own advantages and disadvantages, would be to > contract for virtual machine / cloud service from a provider with suitable > Internet connectivity (which should be almost all of them). You can have a > virtual Linux (or other OS) box on which you run a web server, IMAP server, > and SMTP server of your choice, configured however you like. The advantage > is that you would be completely in control, able to operate as you wish. The > disadvantage is that you are completely in control, responsible for > configuring the servers. But most Linux boxes come with or have easy package > installers for several popular servers, and recipes for various > configurations are widely published. > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non MM related question about email hosting and web hosting
Dear John and Ian, Thank you for your responses. I am tending towards Postbox.com for now for email. I hadn’t looked at Netlify, but it seems to be an interesting choice too! -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Non MM related question about email hosting and web hosting
Dear All, A quick question about your current preferences on an email host and simple web host for personal, non-commercial use. My requirements are as follows, - Due to logistical reasons I cannot self-host a box at home. Also, I would like to host my email and the static website with two different providers as a failsafe. - A host for the static website (for the website in the link below). - The static website is a personal website with negligible traffic volumes. - An email host/service provider that I can trust to provide IMAP service, aliases, use of special chars such as ‘+’ in email addresses, own domain, 2FA (if possible) and catch-all (if possible) without downtime. - My mailbox is currently at around 7GB and will not grow beyond 25GB. - A service provider that should have been around for a decade or more (not that it would guarantee that they would be around in the future, but being around a decade or more would suggest that they might be around for more than a decade). - In terms of price, I am looking to ensure that the combination of domain registration, web hosting and email service is between USD 70 and USD 100. Based on the current requirements, the following seem to be my options, Webhost: - NearlyFreeSpeech.net - Heroku - S3 - prq.se E-mail - Gandi.net - pobox.com/fastmail.com (from the same group but with minor changes between the two) - thexyz.com - ProtonMail Please do let me know if any of you use these services currently. -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Revision 5579 (Wednesday, December 12, 2018) — Version 1.12.3
No such issues on MacOS 10.14.2 and r5579 for me. -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com On 13 Dec 2018, at 20:12, Zak McClellan wrote: Reboot did not help. Reverted back to 1.12.2 r5568 Overwrote r5579 MailMate.app in Application folder with last week's backup (r5568). -Zak --- -Original Message- From: Zak McClellan To: Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:10 AM Subject: Revision 5579 (Wednesday, December 12, 2018) — Version 1.12.3 Oof. New release dropped today. I installed. But can't compose a new message, via keystroke or menu. "MailMate quit unexpectedly." Most definitely. Process: MailMate [1554] Path: /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/MacOS/MailMate Identifier: com.freron.MailMate Version: 1.12.3 (5579) Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: ??? [1] Responsible: MailMate [1554] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2018-12-13 09:03:35.061 -0500 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.12.6 (16G1510) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: 043F6B97-1E46-BB5B-DDE6-1453659D9331 Going try a reboot. Maybe roll back to previous installation. Of course I'll have to learn how to do that first... -Zak MacBookPro 11,4 Core i7, 2.8GHz (16GB RAM) Mid 2015 15-inch Retina OS X 10.12.6 (16G1510) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] PSA - PGP / GPG issue !
On 18 May 2018, at 13:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 17 May 2018, at 9:28, Bharath M Palavalli wrote: On 14 May 2018, at 19:12, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 14 May 2018, at 14:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: The worst type of exploit was a technique which allowed a man-in-the-middle attacker to take any encrypted email and then send an email to the author of this email which would effectively decrypt the email and send the result to a server, for example, using an `` HTML reference. Just to be clear here, I find this particular bug embarrassing. It is somewhat related to how MailMate “primitively” handles displaying multiple email message parts. (Also note, that it only affects email for which image blocking was disabled.) Thanks a lot for the update Benny, one more happy Mailmate user! Are these changes made in the version 1.11.2 (r5479) or are you referring to this new version that you asked us to wait for in case there are no bugs before you automate it (https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5484.tbz)? These changes have been in MailMate since a public release in March (the 1.11 release). I was notified about the “efail” issues in February. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Thanks Benny! -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] PSA - PGP / GPG issue !
On 14 May 2018, at 19:12, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 14 May 2018, at 14:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: The worst type of exploit was a technique which allowed a man-in-the-middle attacker to take any encrypted email and then send an email to the author of this email which would effectively decrypt the email and send the result to a server, for example, using an `` HTML reference. Just to be clear here, I find this particular bug embarrassing. It is somewhat related to how MailMate “primitively” handles displaying multiple email message parts. (Also note, that it only affects email for which image blocking was disabled.) -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Thanks a lot for the update Benny, one more happy Mailmate user! Are these changes made in the version 1.11.2 (r5479) or are you referring to this new version that you asked us to wait for in case there are no bugs before you automate it (https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5484.tbz)? -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Signatures
On 10 Jan 2018, at 18:05, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 8 Jan 2018, at 16:55, Bill Cole wrote: > >> On 7 Jan 2018, at 22:02, Dave C wrote: >> >>> I have several signatures but I don’t want to sent any signature to all >>> messages I send from one account. >> >> RTFM: https://manual.mailmate-app.com/compose#signatures > > Just to be clear, on this mailing list, the abbreviation means “Read The > Friendly Manual” ;-) > > I believe all mailing list emails have received a reply now. Thanks to all > the users replying (when I didn't) the past few weeks! > > -- > Benny > https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Hello, Adding a quick bit, Mailmate allows me to pick the signature when I send an email but for whatever reason, it doesn’t seem to be learning which signatures are used for which send-to/reply-to/forward or based on the account (I am using Mailmate on two different mailboxes) for me. I send some emails in Markdown or plaintext and some in HTML. I have to always select the appropriate signature before sending the email. Am I missing a setting/preference? -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mailmate local store path
On 8 Sep 2017, at 13:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 2 Sep 2017, at 0:12, Bharath M Palavalli wrote: Yes, symlinking works. I am currently using it, but wanted to check if there was a more elegant solution. Just note that I do not officially support symlinking to a different disk. I don't really know if there could be any side-effects. I have one mailbox which is over 12GB and another around 3GB (both IMAP) that I am currently using. I do have one minor issue though, accessing the larger mailbox and responding to mails has a small delay that wasn’t there earlier, which is why I wanted to know if there has been a change or update since 2012 that I did not know about. We can debug this if you like, but it's probably best off-list. Write me via “Help ▸ Send Feedback”. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Thanks Benny, I’ll send you the details off-list. -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mailmate local store path
On 1 Sep 2017, at 17:12, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On 1 Sep 2017, at 4:27, Bharath M Palavalli wrote: Hello, Given that I only have a 128GB hard disk, I would like to control the location where Mailmate stores emails. Is there a way for me to do this? I am running certain applications out of an additional storage application without any problem (RStudio, emacs, Freemind, Atom, IntelliJ, Freemind, Steam, etc.). In this thread: https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/266-choose-location-of-on-disk-mailstore I did notice that it was there was such a request a long time ago (2012), has there been a change since then? Per the thread, have you tried symlinking? --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Hello, Yes, symlinking works. I am currently using it, but wanted to check if there was a more elegant solution. I have one mailbox which is over 12GB and another around 3GB (both IMAP) that I am currently using. I do have one minor issue though, accessing the larger mailbox and responding to mails has a small delay that wasn’t there earlier, which is why I wanted to know if there has been a change or update since 2012 that I did not know about. -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Mailmate local store path
Hello, Given that I only have a 128GB hard disk, I would like to control the location where Mailmate stores emails. Is there a way for me to do this? I am running certain applications out of an additional storage application without any problem (RStudio, emacs, Freemind, Atom, IntelliJ, Freemind, Steam, etc.). In this thread: https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/266-choose-location-of-on-disk-mailstore I did notice that it was there was such a request a long time ago (2012), has there been a change since then? -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
