Re: [MlMt] Can I "thread" by identical subject lines?
ps - Be sure to follow the link in the comments of the original git. Max updated the code for more recent versions of MailMate. On 24 Sep 2024, at 14:13, Devyn Osborne wrote: Max Andersen created a “better threaded view” which incorporates threading by subject (as well as thread id). See the related mailing list message [here](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg03323.html). I use this better threaded view pretty much exclusively. Highly recommended! Devyn On 24 Sep 2024, at 10:52, Dan Pritts wrote: I presume that mailmate’s threading support comes via various headers like “in-reply-to”; it’s been a while since I’ve looked at the RFCs all but I remember that this sort of explicit stuff can help with threading. I’d really like to view messages that share a subject line, but don’t necessarily have those headers, as threads. Use case: Jira e-mail updates. I get mail from Jira when tickets are updated, but it doesn’t show threaded in mailmate. I know I can sort by subject, which helps but doesn’t really solve the problem. I’m not seeing an option to do this, and there weren’t any threads in the mailing list this year or last that looked promising on the subject. Any thoughts? [ Benny: it would go a long way toward solving my problem if the sorting was “sticky” to each folder … ] Also, I have an unrelated bug report, can someone remind me where to send it? tnx danno ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Can I "thread" by identical subject lines?
Max Andersen created a “better threaded view” which incorporates threading by subject (as well as thread id). See the related mailing list message [here](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg03323.html). I use this better threaded view pretty much exclusively. Highly recommended! Devyn On 24 Sep 2024, at 10:52, Dan Pritts wrote: I presume that mailmate’s threading support comes via various headers like “in-reply-to”; it’s been a while since I’ve looked at the RFCs all but I remember that this sort of explicit stuff can help with threading. I’d really like to view messages that share a subject line, but don’t necessarily have those headers, as threads. Use case: Jira e-mail updates. I get mail from Jira when tickets are updated, but it doesn’t show threaded in mailmate. I know I can sort by subject, which helps but doesn’t really solve the problem. I’m not seeing an option to do this, and there weren’t any threads in the mailing list this year or last that looked promising on the subject. Any thoughts? [ Benny: it would go a long way toward solving my problem if the sorting was “sticky” to each folder … ] Also, I have an unrelated bug report, can someone remind me where to send it? tnx danno ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Include original attachments when replying?
Hi Henry, Ah, I think I see the miscommunication. When I reply, MM properly quotes the email / OP to which I am replying. What I would like to do is be able to include the *attachments* from the email / OP as well (PDF, JPG, etc). Devyn On 17 Jul 2024, at 21:27, Henry Seiden wrote: Devyn, What version are you using? If you are using reply (⌘ “R”) and getting no joy seeing the OP (original post) in your reply message, you might want to check your MM General Settings. Have you changed any from their default positions? Lastly, it may well be your user saved settings in your current version are messed up. Without a more detailed usage history, it’s difficult to determine. The settings are carefully defined in the full User Manual and also in the Help Menu. FYI, on my install the OP (or a portion thereof if chosen) is quoted at the bottom of every new reply. There is an option to select only the selected/highlighted portion, if chosen. Otherwise the full message is quoted. I have not had any problems with this feature. Maybe another way to test this is save out your settings (the .plists mentioned in the Help section quoted below) to a separate folder temporarily and let a default set be generated to confirm which settings affected this feature. The info below is from the MM Help Menu, “How to transfer Settings to another computer.” Also useful for that. In this case you will be removing the old versions and letting MM rebuild them to default settings. Be sure you quit MM before moving these files. If you don’t see the expected results, try the next one. Then replace both the originals in the same places, after again shutting down MM. You should be restored to the way MM worked previously. Again, I would try moving these out, one file at a time and let it be rebuilt by MM restarting in this order, then the next: * /Users//Library/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist * /Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/*.plist * The remaining two - Bundles and Resources are not likely to be a problem. Good Luck and happy hunting! Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com From Help menu… How to transfer MailMate Settings to another computer To copy your settings to another computer you need these files (depending on what you have customized): /Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/*.plist /Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ /Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/Bundles/ /Users//Library/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist Note that the last file also contains most of what you have changed in MailMate preferences or have changed using the defaults command. You can only copy this file before launching MailMate on the destination machine. Otherwise, you might have problems with the file being overwritten by an older version cached by the system. On 17 Jul 2024, at 19:53, Devyn Osborne wrote: Hi All, Is it possible to reply to an email and (quickly) include the original attachment (ie, from the email to which you are replying)? Apple Mail has this functionality and is one I miss. I searched the archives and found this question asked in 2018, with no easy solution, but perhaps the functionality has been implemented since and I’m just missing it. Thanks! Devyn ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Include original attachments when replying?
Hm. I don’t think this covers it. Perhaps I misunderstand your answer or the options, or have explained myself poorly. I’ve customized the toolbar but, even looking at the default options, I don’t see a “reply with original attachment”. When I reply to a message, it doesn’t include attachment the from the sender. However, I often want to include it, either because I am cc:ing people who need to see it, or because I just want it most easily at hand to reference (especially if it’s an older message). Thanks for the assistance. Devyn On 17 Jul 2024, at 18:17, Henry Seiden wrote: You may be looking in a compose window instead? Not there, but in the Main window- the one opened at the startup of MM… Look there, at the top, you should see the action icon/arrows at the top of the main window (LEFT, RIGHT, Flag, Tag). They’re next to the three icons for archiving, deletion and trash. Screenshot. Left is the REPLY command, Right is the FORWARD. Flag and Tag are self-explanatory, I hope. So, select a message and choose the action you want, then a new window opens - the compose window. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 17 Jul 2024, at 20:14, Devyn Osborne wrote: For now, I’m just doing a quick drag and drop from the original message to the new reply. It’s actually easy enough, though I guess I’m hoping for a single button or key command.___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Include original attachments when replying?
For now, I’m just doing a quick drag and drop from the original message to the new reply. It’s actually easy enough, though I guess I’m hoping for a single button or key command. On 17 Jul 2024, at 16:53, Devyn Osborne wrote: > Hi All, > > Is it possible to reply to an email and (quickly) include the original > attachment (ie, from the email to which you are replying)? Apple Mail has > this functionality and is one I miss. > > I searched the archives and found this question asked in 2018, with no easy > solution, but perhaps the functionality has been implemented since and I’m > just missing it. > > Thanks! > > Devyn ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Include original attachments when replying?
Hi All, Is it possible to reply to an email and (quickly) include the original attachment (ie, from the email to which you are replying)? Apple Mail has this functionality and is one I miss. I searched the archives and found this question asked in 2018, with no easy solution, but perhaps the functionality has been implemented since and I’m just missing it. Thanks! Devyn ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Search parameter "is" vs. "contains"
Excellent explanation. Thanks! On 14 May 2024, at 5:57, Bill Cole wrote: > On 2024-05-13 at 15:22:21 UTC-0400 (Mon, 13 May 2024 12:22:21 -0700) > Devyn Osborne > is rumored to have said: > >> Hi All, >> >> I searched for this issue but it’s a bit tricky due to the common words used. > > "Is" means that the match needs to be complete and precise. You may note that > when you select the "Is" menu item, the text field becomes a combination text > box and drop-down which lists all of the values that exist in your mail. > > "Contains" means that whatever string you enter can exist somewhere in the > selected header field, even if there is more to that field. > >> I’ve run into a curious result when creating search / smart mailbox rules >> for the From address. Here’s what I’m seeing: >> >> - “From” “contains” “n...@example.com” — this returns the expected results >> (all emails from n...@example.com) >> >> - “From” “is” “n...@example.com” — this returns *zero* results > > Correct, because the "From" header always has more than just the sender email > address. If you want to JUST match the address in a From header, you can > select From->Address in the field menu and use 'is' instead of "contains". > >> I know search rules can sometimes operate differently than expected, due to >> the specific logic, but this one is curious to me. Why would a “from is a >> specific address” not work? Is it because the “from” actually looks to >> search like “Devyn Osborne (n...@example.com)” so is not solely the email >> address? > > Precisely. > > Standard email headers can have very complicated structures, but they are > rigorously defined and so can be decomposed quite reliably into logical > parts. The possible formats of the "From" header are mind-numbingly complex > and some senders play games with that complexity. > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org > (AKA @grumpybozo@toad.social and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) > Not Currently Available For Hire > ___ > mailmate mailing list > Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Search parameter "is" vs. "contains"
Ah ha! Thank you! I’m still learning how robust MailMate’s search truly is, especially compared to other mail programs. I love how granular we can get, though it takes some getting used to! And the compound searches… just love it. Thanks again. On 13 May 2024, at 12:50, John Doherty wrote: > Rather than just choosing "From" in the condition, choose "From Address" from > the submenu. Then things seem to work exactly as you'd expect. Please see > attached screen shot. > > On Mon 2024-05-13 01:22 PM MDT -0600, wrote: > >> I’ve run into a curious result when creating search / smart mailbox rules >> for the From address. Here’s what I’m seeing: >> >> - “From” “contains” “n...@example.com” — this returns the expected results >> (all emails from n...@example.com) >> >> - “From” “is” “n...@example.com” — this returns *zero* results > ___ > mailmate mailing list > Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Search parameter "is" vs. "contains"
Hi All, I searched for this issue but it’s a bit tricky due to the common words used. I’ve run into a curious result when creating search / smart mailbox rules for the From address. Here’s what I’m seeing: - “From” “contains” “n...@example.com” — this returns the expected results (all emails from n...@example.com) - “From” “is” “n...@example.com” — this returns *zero* results I know search rules can sometimes operate differently than expected, due to the specific logic, but this one is curious to me. Why would a “from is a specific address” not work? Is it because the “from” actually looks to search like “Devyn Osborne (n...@example.com)” so is not solely the email address? Devyn ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Gmail tag syncing
That's interesting! It makes sense. Thanks! On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 7:31 AM Bill Cole < mmlist-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote: > On 2024-02-02 at 22:46:57 UTC-0500 (Fri, 02 Feb 2024 19:46:57 -0800) > devynosbo...@gmail.com > is rumored to have said: > > > Hm, I take that back. At some point today, the tag removal was properly > synced. It just didn’t do it right away, even after a manual sync. Maybe it > waited for some sort of mailbox refresh? > > Webmail+IMAP systems like GMail's are likely to have transient > synchronization issues because the web and IMAP interfaces each have to > work with their own versions of the mailstore in conflicting ways that are > reconciled behind the scenes literally when you're not looking: changes in > one mailfolder from one client other than adding or purging messages are > likely to not be visible in another client while it has that folder open, > and some changes (like purging messages marked as deleted) may only be done > 'for real' when a client switches to a different folder. > > And at the scale of GMail, they may well also have simple replication > delays because different clients are attaching to different actual machines > which might be on opposite sides of the planet (in principle) and nothing > is actually instantaneous (except maybe neutrino type transitions...) so > the mailstore is eventually consistent in all views. > > > > On 2 Feb 2024, at 12:10, devynosbo...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >> Hello all, > >> > >> Does MM sync tags/labels with Gmail after the first download? That > doesn’t seem to be happening for me, though I could be missing something > easy! > >> > >> For example, today I received an email which Gmail erroneously > tagged/labelled as Important. MM downloaded it. I then went to Gmail in > Safari and untagged the message (I used Safari out of habit, though I guess > I could do this within MM). However, after sync, MM still shows the email > with the Important tag. > >> > >> I have the Important tag properly set up / synced within MM, per the > instructions, though again, could be missing something. > >> > >> Should I use MM to untag? Would that help? I occasionally need to use > Gmail to do so, for example, on my phone (though I also just started > testing Preside on iOS). > >> > >> Thanks for any help! > >> > >> Devyn > > ___ > > mailmate mailing list > > mailmate@lists.freron.com > > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org > (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) > Not Currently Available For Hire > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
