[MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. For a small business with not much traffic, but a decent amount of storage is required. Thanks! Seamus ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
Thanks all for the recommendations. A bit more info: - Currently host in-house, are looking to move to a managed ‘cloud’ service to reduce maintenance - Looking for whole domain, with around 20 accounts plus aliases - Need up to 50GB storage on one address (most addresses much less) - UK or EU based (to keep local) - Happy to pay FastMail seems ideal, but servers are quite remote (New York based if I understand correctly). Perhaps I am being over cautious about distance… Seamus On 26 Nov 2019, at 17:54, Charlie Clark wrote: On 26 Nov 2019, at 18:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? I would have thought that pretty much any provide that does IMAP should be fine. What is it you're looking for? Just a mail account? Or somewhere to host the e-mail for your domain? If the first then GMX is pretty robust, if the second then I've found domainfactory to be pretty good for something with minimal setup and maintenance, but the choice is pretty wide. OTOH there is also OwnCloud, for which there are several providers with free plans. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
Thank you everyone, all very useful. Looks like Fastmail has the votes, and I should ignore distance! Another potential provider I have found is Migadu (www.migadu.com), seems very interesting, does anyone have any experience? Seamus PS once I get the provider sorted I will be shifting all my colleagues to MailMate, could be interesting! On 28 Nov 2019, at 4:05, leo wrote: Totally can second this: FastMail is very reliable and I had never speed issues. Works very well with MailMate. (Side note: Their iOS app is only so-so - but better than iOS Mail.) On 27 Nov 2019, at 4:22, Sam Hathaway wrote: It’s AU-based, but FastMail is decent and works well with MailMate. Hope this helps. -sam On 26 Nov 2019, at 12:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. For a small business with not much traffic, but a decent amount of storage is required. Thanks! Seamus ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Calendar invite notifications resending
Hello, I hope some email experts can help me here… but it may be a calendar issue. When I set up MailMate it resent 40 old calendar event notification emails (‘event accepted’/‘event declined’). I don’t usually use the accept/decline buttons, so it could be that is the total of my events going back a few years. I just set up MailMate with the same email account on another computer and the same thing happened. I have noticed this at some point before when setting up accounts, so it may not be just MailMate? I don’t understand how/when/why these notifications are sent at all. If I could just turn off calendar notification emails I would. I don’t like invisible emails being sent without my knowledge! Is this an email issue, a calendar one or something else? Thanks Seamus ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Smart Mailbox / Sub Mailboxes / By Flag Color
The way I did this was setting up each flag as a smart mailbox (under a general flagged mailbox) Conditions are: “Message Is Flagged” (for all colours) Then set keywords to include or not the binary bits “$MailFagBit0“ “$MailFagBit1” “$MailFagBit2” as follows: Red: no no no Orange: yes no no Yellow: no yes no Green: yes yes no Blue: no no yes Purple: yes no yes Gray: no yes yes Seamus -- Seamus Phillips MEng CEng MIStructE Structural Engineer (+44)7905521930 seamus.phill...@gmail.com On 26 February 2020 at 12:20:02, Robert M. Münch ( robert.mue...@saphirion.com) wrote: > On 25 Feb 2020, at 19:47, Thomas Eckhold wrote: > > To create sub-mailboxis per color you could set the value to „Flags >> > Colorname“. > > („Submailbox for each unique value of Flags >> Colorname“) > > > Ha, I tried that before but the submailbox names were „INBOX-Google“ and I > missed that I first can change the text to use and second that it was > preset to some meaningless values. > > -- > > Robert M. Münch > -- > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to stop mailmate indexing the entire mailbox
You could delete the mailbox (or change conditions) from mailboxes.plist file in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate Make a backup of the file first incase you mess it up! seamus.phill...@gmail.com > On 17 Mar 2020, at 18:32, Rob Willett via mailmate > wrote: > > Hi, > > I've just tried to add a new condition to a Smart Mailbox. > > The Mailbox already has seven From: domains and To: Domains and is specific > for my company email. > > I added a new entry, a new From domain and it's not clear whether I > accidentally pressed enter with a blank value or it started indexing by > itself, but Mailmate is now simply spinning around, indexing I presume > 10,000's of mail's for the new Smart mailbox. > > Killing the application and then restarting it doesn't help as I can't edit > the mailbox before it starts indexing or whatever again. > > I do have 32GB on the Mac so it might eventually complete successfully, but > I've been watching it with interest and amusement for the last 15 mins. > > Is there a way to start Mailmate up without it hanging? > > A quick response appreciated as it's still running. > > Thanks > > Rob > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Stuck in a loop deleting message
Hi, I have a shared mailbox I am subscribed to, but I do not have permission to delete from it. If I do try and delete, say by accident, it comes up with a dialogue saying: IMAP problem for seamus@ account MailMAte encountered the following error: “Server response: “K9 NO Permission denied”. Command attempted: “K9 UID STORE 1387 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)”.”. Mailbox: “Shared Folders/Project-server”. options: ”Retry” | “Take Account Offline” | “Cancel Message Deletion” Clicking ‘Cancel Message Deletion’ does not work, as it just comes back again a few seconds later. The only way I have found to dismiss the message is to take the mailbox offline, unsubscribe from it then resubscribe. Any help to fix would be appreciated. Seamus___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] how not to organize by thread?
If you turn off threading and then set “use as default columns” it remembers it. I find the defaults to occasionally mess up, and can be fixed with this command: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates Seamus On 23 Mar 2020, at 14:07, Denis Ricard via mailmate wrote: I do not want ‘Organize by thread’. I’m not sure why by Mailmate always opens with ‘Organize by thread’ selected. I uncheck it, by it doesn’t keep between relaunch. I’ve looked in the prefs and I haven’t found where I can set this option. If anyone can help me set this I’d appreciate. Thanks, Denis ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] can I make rules apply automatically?
From the manual: Rules You can add rules to any mailbox. Each rule is a set of conditions and a set of actions. Rules are only triggered when a message is added to a mailbox which most often happens when a new message arrives in an account. You can apply rules to the selected messages of a mailbox by using “Mailbox ▸ Apply Rules”. It is a little confusing at first, but I think that does describe how it works best. It works on the fly for mail as it is added to a mailbox. Seamus On 23 Mar 2020, at 17:42, Jo wrote: Hi, I'm noticing that when I have rules in a smart mailbox, I have to tell it to apply those rules for it to have any effect. Is there a way for this to just happen, on the fly? My rules basically are just to tell it to move to a specific mailbox after the email has been read. Jo If at first you don't succeed, call it version 1.0 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] can I make rules apply automatically?
If you set up a smart mailbox for read messages, you would be able to apply a rule to that. Seamus On 23 Mar 2020, at 18:14, Jo wrote: On 23 Mar 2020, at 10:57, Seamus Phillips wrote: From the manual: Rules You can add rules to any mailbox. Each rule is a set of conditions and a set of actions. Rules are only triggered when a message is added to a mailbox which most often happens when a new message arrives in an account. You can apply rules to the selected messages of a mailbox by using “Mailbox ▸ Apply Rules”. It is a little confusing at first, but I think that does describe how it works best. It works on the fly for mail as it is added to a mailbox. so my rule for 'when message is read' kinda defeats the purpose, I suppose. Bummer. Jo ,€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸ Bad command or file name. You have 2 wishes left. ,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Subscription list
Hi, Does anyone know a quick way of selecting or deselecting a large number of folders on the subscription list? Apple Mail allows you to select multiple (with Shift key) and click ‘subscribe’, or to use enclosing folder to subscribe to all subfolders. In Mailmate you have to click each checkbox, which is laborious for 100s of folders. Thanks, Seamus -- Seamus Phillips (+44)7905521930 seamus.phill...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Subscription list
In the next update, selecting multiple mailboxes is allowed. Amazing, thanks Benny! Seamus On 17 Dec 2020, at 12:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 14 Dec 2020, at 11:56, Seamus Phillips wrote: In Mailmate you have to click each checkbox, which is laborious for 100s of folders. In the next update, selecting multiple mailboxes is allowed. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] hover over link to view it?
I also have this issues with the icons, but I’m running Mojave. Seamus -- Seamus Phillips (+44)7905521930 seamus.phill...@gmail.com > On 5 Jan 2021, at 15:37, Shoshanna Green wrote: > > Hm -- could the fact that I do not see a URL displayed when I hover over a > link in a message be related to the fact that I also don't see any icons for > the Preferences tabs? See https://imgur.com/OeBLfm8 -- each tab is available > and has its text label, but is missing the icon that I presume ought to > appear above the text. > >> On 31 Dec 2020, at 11:00, Shoshanna Green wrote: >> >> A reasonable question, but no, I'm not. >> >> Glenn's message, which just arrived, reminds me that I should add that I'm >> running MailMate 5757 under High Sierra 10.13.6. Maybe the lack of URL >> popups is due to my OS being behind the times? >> >>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 10:30, Guillaume Barrette wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>>Just an idea, may not be related since I don't know exactly how this >>> popup is coded, but are you using a custom stylesheet for your email >>> viewer? Maybe this could interfere with the popup >>> >>> -- >>> Guillaume >>> >>>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 10:12, Shoshanna Green wrote: >>> >>>> Huh -- I'm on 5757 and I'm not seeing it, and haven't for ages. I'm >>>> talking not about links where the URL is explicitly shown in the message >>>> text, as in Guillaume's message, but about encoded text links, such as in >>>> daily news summaries from newspapers: the text says "More Things Are >>>> Terrible, Say Sources" and clicking it will take me to an article on the >>>> paper's website. Encoded links like those show no popup URLs for me; >>>> hovering over them does nothing. >>>> >>>> I restart MailMate at least daily, and I just tried turning my VPN off and >>>> restarting MM again, in case that was the problem (even though I had >>>> already set MM to bypass the VPN, because it causes SMTP problems in >>>> sending mail). No joy. Is there something else that could be blocking >>>> this? I can't see anything in the preferences... >>>> >>>> Shoshanna >>>> >>>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 10:02, Guillaume Barrette wrote: >>>> >>>>> Working as well on my side in the non-beta MM version: 5673 >>>>> >>>>> Have you tried a restart of MailMate and see if this comes back? >>>>> >>>>> From here, I see that MM doesn't show it if the address displayed is the >>>>> same as the actual one, maybe that what you're seeing? >>>>> >>>>> https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2016-September/006940.html >>>>> >>>>> Hope this help! >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Guillaume >>>>> >>>>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 9:56, Ian Petersen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Shoshanna, >>>>>> >>>>>>> I really miss being able to hover over a link in an email and see where >>>>>>> it would send me. Might that feature return? >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems to be working fine here in 5757 … >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Ian >>>> >>>> >>>> Shoshanna Green >>>> shoshan...@gmail.com >>>> ___ >>>> mailmate mailing list >>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> >> >> Shoshanna Green >> shoshan...@gmail.com > > > Shoshanna Green (she/her) > shoshan...@gmail.com > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] hover over link to view it?
Yes, sorry I should have specified this as related to r5757. r5673 is all good. -- Seamus Phillips (+44)7905521930 seamus.phill...@gmail.com > On 5 Jan 2021, at 16:16, Guillaume Barrette wrote: > > Maybe this is related to the Beta version? Everything is fine on my side on > macOS Mojave using MailMate Version 1.13.2 (5673) > > Best, > > -- > Guillaume > >> On 5 Jan 2021, at 11:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: >> >> I also have this issues with the icons, but I’m running Mojave. >> >> Seamus >> >> -- >> Seamus Phillips >> (+44)7905521930 >> seamus.phill...@gmail.com >> >>>> On 5 Jan 2021, at 15:37, Shoshanna Green wrote: >>> >>> Hm -- could the fact that I do not see a URL displayed when I hover over a >>> link in a message be related to the fact that I also don't see any icons >>> for the Preferences tabs? See https://imgur.com/OeBLfm8 -- each tab is >>> available and has its text label, but is missing the icon that I presume >>> ought to appear above the text. >>> >>>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 11:00, Shoshanna Green wrote: >>>> >>>> A reasonable question, but no, I'm not. >>>> >>>> Glenn's message, which just arrived, reminds me that I should add that I'm >>>> running MailMate 5757 under High Sierra 10.13.6. Maybe the lack of URL >>>> popups is due to my OS being behind the times? >>>> >>>>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 10:30, Guillaume Barrette wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Just an idea, may not be related since I don't know exactly how this >>>>> popup is coded, but are you using a custom stylesheet for your email >>>>> viewer? Maybe this could interfere with the popup >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Guillaume >>>>> >>>>>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 10:12, Shoshanna Green wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Huh -- I'm on 5757 and I'm not seeing it, and haven't for ages. I'm >>>>>> talking not about links where the URL is explicitly shown in the message >>>>>> text, as in Guillaume's message, but about encoded text links, such as >>>>>> in daily news summaries from newspapers: the text says "More Things Are >>>>>> Terrible, Say Sources" and clicking it will take me to an article on the >>>>>> paper's website. Encoded links like those show no popup URLs for me; >>>>>> hovering over them does nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I restart MailMate at least daily, and I just tried turning my VPN off >>>>>> and restarting MM again, in case that was the problem (even though I had >>>>>> already set MM to bypass the VPN, because it causes SMTP problems in >>>>>> sending mail). No joy. Is there something else that could be blocking >>>>>> this? I can't see anything in the preferences... >>>>>> >>>>>> Shoshanna >>>>>> >>>>>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 10:02, Guillaume Barrette wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Working as well on my side in the non-beta MM version: 5673 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you tried a restart of MailMate and see if this comes back? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From here, I see that MM doesn't show it if the address displayed is >>>>>>> the same as the actual one, maybe that what you're seeing? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2016-September/006940.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this help! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Guillaume >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 9:56, Ian Petersen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shoshanna, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I really miss being able to hover over a link in an email and see >>>>>>>>> where it would send me. Might that feature return? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seems to be working fine here in 5757 … >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Ian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Shoshanna Green >>>>>> shoshan...@gmail.com >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> mailmate mailing list >>>>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>>> ___ >>>>> mailmate mailing list >>>>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>>>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>>> >>>> >>>> Shoshanna Green >>>> shoshan...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> Shoshanna Green (she/her) >>> shoshan...@gmail.com >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Key Bindings for Smart Folder
Select the smart mailbox in question and hit CDM+C (copy) and it will copy the
UUID of the mailbox. Paste that instead of ‘UNREAD’.
Seamus
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> On 25 Feb 2021, at 16:50, Lisa Sieverts wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps because UNREAD isn’t a built-in, that is, a blue mailbox? It’s a
> Smart Mailbox for me and I can’t get the Key Bindings to go to any Smart
> Mailbox using the format you shared.
>
> Lisa Sieverts
> 603-762-0235
> l...@lisasieverts.com
>
> On 25 Feb 2021, at 9:48, Todd Singletary wrote:
>
> This is what I have.
>
> // Combo keys
> "g" = {
> "a" = ( "goToMailbox:", "ALL_MESSAGES" );
> "s" = ( "goToMailbox:", "FLAGGED" );
> // g then cGo to 'Contacts'Takes you to your Contacts list.
> "d" = ( "goToMailbox:", "DRAFTS" );
> "l" = "goToMailbox:";
> "i" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX" );
> "t" = ( "goToMailbox:", "SENT" );
> "u" = ( "goToMailbox:", "UNREAD" );
>
> };
> On 24 Feb 2021, at 15:07, Lisa Sieverts wrote:
>
> Hi Todd,
>
> Whenever I’ve had trouble, it’s been a misplaced semi-colon or parenthesis or
> something like that. Stare at your code until you can see what’s different
> about the code you wrote compared to what was already there.
>
> Or paste it and send it to the list and we can help find the mistake.
>
> Lisa Sieverts
> 603-762-0235
> l...@lisasieverts.com
>
> On 24 Feb 2021, at 13:52, Todd Singletary wrote:
>
> I have a smart folder that contains all unread messages. It is titled
> “Unread.” I have tried to create a keybinding to access it like the other
> gmail custom key bindings (e.g. g + u, for unread). The syntax is the same in
> the .plist file, but it is not working. I’m sure I’m missing something simple
> and would greatly appreciate any help.
>
> Todd
>
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Re: [MlMt] Machine specific header
An obvious solution perhaps, but you could just use different signatures. That
is how we operate our shared mailbox.
Seamus
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> On 28 Jul 2021, at 03:49, Philip Paeps wrote:
>
> On 2021-07-27 18:24:10 (+0800), MM_Arc wrote:
>> At the office we are handling info-account with a number of users.
>> At rare occasions the need arises to be able to tell which workstation did
>> send the mail . . .
>>
>> So I’m wondering if there is a possibility to configure/add/set a specific
>> header/tag based on the MM installation.
>
> You could configure MailMate to put the hostname in the EHLO command it sends
> to the SMTP server:
>
> defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmSMTPFixedHostname -string "example.com"
>
> In many (most? some?) setups, that will cause the string to turn up in the
> first Received: header.
>
> Alternatively, you could set a custom header:
>
> defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmAdditionalComposerHeaders "( {
> headerName = 'X-YourOrg-Info-Workstation'; defaultValue = 'Something'; type =
> 'plain'; } )"
>
> That may be a little bit more reliable in transit but users can easily edit
> or suppress the header (either inadvertently or maliciously).
>
> (These settings are documented on
> https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences)
>
> A more reliable solution would be to give each user of the shared mailbox
> their own credentials.
>
> Philip
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown formatting
I have the same problem. I’m running Mojave.
Followed instructions from letsencrypt to add new cert to keychain. Couldn’t
find an old one to remove though and the problem remains.
I found the error when trying to enable a bundle, and it wouldn’t stick, but no
error came up. I checked for updates and found the cert error. I since
downloaded bundle from GitHub, and added to mailmate package manually, seems to
have worked.
I guess a similar workaround to just download any new version of MailMate
manually, but that is a bit of a pain. Especially for a whole office. Any help
to resolve would be great.
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> On 25 Nov 2021, at 00:45, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
> On 12 Nov 2021, at 12:22, Bill Cole wrote:
>
>> On 2021-11-12 at 13:34:46 UTC-0500 (Fri, 12 Nov 2021 10:34:46 -0800)
>> Randall Gellens
>> is rumored to have said:
>>
>>> I just tried to check for an update but received the error "SSL certificate
>>> problem: certificate has expired", which might explain why I wasn't aware
>>> there was anything newer.
>>
>> That's probably a consequence of the recent expiration of the root CA cert
>> ("DST Root CA X3") on a secondary validation path for Let's Encrypt
>> certificates. Sites serve the full trust chain of certs needed for all of
>> their trust paths except for the root to all clients and many are still
>> serving both the valid trust path and the one that relies on an expired
>> root. There's actually no consensus on whether server and intermediate certs
>> that were issued when a CA cert was valid should be considered invalid when
>> the CA expires but the issued cert is still nominally valid.
>>
>> The fixes for that base problem vary between systems and can be confusing
>> because an app can use the OS's security layer and its keychains of trusted
>> CA certs or the Apple-distributed antique OpenSSL with a PEM bundle of CA
>> certs in /etc/ssl/cert.pem or the MacPorts OpenSSL with the
>> 'curl-ca-bundle' package that puts a link at /opt/local/etc/openssl/cert.pem
>> which points to /opt/local/share/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt. Or if you use
>> Homebrew, you might have something in /usr/local/etc. Some apps may even
>> bundle their own SSL libraries to do self-updates. I'm pretty sure MM just
>> uses the system facilities, but if you have similar problems with other tools
>>
>> If Keychain Access will let you do so, you should remove "DST Root CA X3"
>> from your System Roots keychain.
>> On recent systems with SPI enabled, you can't do that so you can work around
>> the problem by changing its Trust Settings to "Always Trust."
>
> I don't seem to have such a certificate. Nothing matches "DST" or "X3"
> anywhere.
>
>
>> You also should check your keychains for multiple versions of the "ISRG Root
>> X1" certificate, which SHOULD be a self-signed root CA cert in SystemRoots.
>> However, you may also have another version in the System or login keychains
>> which is NOT actually a root CA cert but rather is issued by that expired
>> root CA cert. If you do have one of those, they need to go. If you are
>> unable to remove non-root versions of the "ISRG Root X1" cert or do not have
>> the root version in SystemRoots, you can get the current version from
>> http://x1.i.lencr.org/ and import it into your System keychain. (imports
>> into SystemRoots don't work.)
>
> I only have one such certificate, which expires in 2035. Serial number "00
> 82 10 CF B0 D2 40 E3 59 44 63 E0 BB 63 82 8B 00".
>
>
> Given that I don't seem to have a "DST Root CA X3" cert and I have only one
> "ISRG Root X1" cert, what do you suggest?
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown formatting
Excellent, that has worked for me! Thanks Benny. Much appreciated. Seamus -- Seamus Phillips (+44)7905521930 seamus.phill...@gmail.com > On 25 Nov 2021, at 16:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > > > On 25 Nov 2021, at 9:08, Seamus Phillips wrote: > > I found the error when trying to enable a bundle, and it wouldn’t stick, but > no error came up. I checked for updates and found the cert error. I since > downloaded bundle from GitHub, and added to mailmate package manually, seems > to have worked. > > I guess a similar workaround to just download any new version of MailMate > manually, but that is a bit of a pain. Especially for a whole office. Any > help to resolve would be great. > > I'm not really an expert on these certificate issues, but it has now come up > several times on the mailing list and I guess it'll only get worse when more > users get access to test/beta releases. Also, users stuck on older releases > of macOS and/or MailMate will continue to have issues with bundles/updates. > > So, I spent the day researching/relearning the handling of server > certificates and I've now re-configured the server with a couple of free > ZeroSSL-issued certificates for updates.mailmate-app.com and > api.mailmate-app.com. These should no longer be affected by the “Let's > Encrypt” issue. If this works as expected, I think it should resolve the > update-issues for all releases of MailMate. > > Let me know if this change does not help. State both version of MailMate and > macOS version. > > -- > Benny > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Google is eliminating the grandfathered free Google Apps (hosted domain) offering
FYI - I am also a very heavy tag user, and found Migadu allows lots of them. Seamus -- Seamus Phillips seamus.phill...@gmail.com > On 28 Jan 2022, at 22:16, Richard Rettke wrote: > > I have some thoughts on Fastmail. > > I switched from Gmail to Fastmail a year ago. Thank goodness it was a > yearlong relatively slow transition for me and I had hung on to my gmail > accounts. > > In December I started getting errors in Mailmate that Fastmail was > complaining about too many tags every time I attempted to assign a new tag. I > would delete the assigned tag and as I’m a pretty heavy user of tags I opened > a ticket with Fastmail. > > The long and the short is that the Fastmail account is limited to 150 tags > across all users and aliases. For my modus operandi that is grossly > insufficient. As much as I would like to get off of Gmail, for the present I > am migrating back from Fastmail and trying to envision a use for the 2 years > remaining on my Fastmail subscription. > > I like Fastmail and this was the only thing that cropped up that is > unworkable for me. So if you’re not a user of Tags, I heartily recommend it. > >> On 28 Jan 2022, at 13:58, Kee Hinckley k...@hinckley.com wrote: >> >> https://9to5google.com/2022/01/19/g-suite-legacy-free-edition/ >> >> The new plans start at $6/person/month. Although apparently there's some >> backlash, so Google is doing a survey of users to see how many were just >> using it for personal/family use. >> >> Given that all I use it for is IMAP/SMTP, that raises the question of >> whether I should just move to Fastmail or ProtonMail? Any thoughts on >> benefits/limitations of those?___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Not working: "Include messages in any submailboxes of this mailbox" (MM r5865 on macOS 12.1)
I think that checkbox relates to nested smart mailboxes? You need to add all the sub imap mailboxes to the mailbox tab… or use All Messages and then use a condition to filter on imap path. -- Seamus Phillips seamus.phill...@gmail.com > On 1 Feb 2022, at 13:58, Sam Birch wrote: > > I’d like to have a smart mailbox that includes messages from all subfolders > of a particular IMAP folder. So I’ve selected that IMAP folder in the > “Mailboxes” tab. Since that folder contains no messages itself (only > subfolders) the smart mailbox is initially empty. > > The problem is that checking the “Include messages in any submailboxes of > this mailbox” checkbox has no effect — the smart mailbox remains empty. > Furthermore, the checkbox clears itself if I switch to another tab or close > the mailbox editor. > > This looks like a bug, but maybe I just don’t understand how it’s supposed to > work. Any ideas? > > Cheers, > -sam > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Add tag on opening an email
Does anyone know if there a way to automatically add a tag on the trigger of opening an email? I am trying to replicate the normal unread/read feature, but for several users on the same inbox, so each can see if they have read an email. I have got as far as setting up a key binding to add the keyword, and then style the message based on the keyword. It would be nice to be able to also add the keyword automatically like ‘marking messages as read’ does with the /seen keyword. Thanks! Seamus 42 Thorncliffe Gardens Glasgow G41 2DE 07905521930 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]
Hi Ken, I missed you previous thread, but I would recommend Migadu. Generous storage, and doesn’t limit on addresses/mailboxes. Bills itself as standards based IMAP, and prefers plain text email (like us mailmate users!). Their support is great too. I moved across 100GB using IMAPsync (command line migration tool). Worked perfectly. Hope that helps. Seamus -- Seamus Phillips (+44)7905521930 seamus.phill...@gmail.com > On 12 Apr 2023, at 18:55, Ken Pope wrote: > > > Thanks for the continued stream of great info. > > My plan to move to a much cheaper dedicated server crashed when I discovered > that a much cheaper dedicated server couldn’t deliver what I needed. > > Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) will > accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will allow me to > import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient storage (e.g., > StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of only 10G storage for all > plans). > > The following prospects made the initial cuts of my research. I’d appreciate > your comments about any of the following or any other provider you recommend > or warn against. > > MailFence > Proton > Fastmail > Thexyz > Scala Hosting > mailbox.org > > Thanks as always for your help. > > Ken > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Migrating MM
I do this quite often, and do something similar. I first open a fresh copy of MM on the new machine and put in the IMAP account info manually, let it download the emails. Then I close it down and copy across the various plist files for all the other settings to get my custom set up. Hope that helps. -- Seamus > On 7 May 2023, at 07:51, Michael Nietzold > wrote: > > As I remember I only transfered some plist files with the settings. (Only > some bytes or MB) Then all messages are downloaded again from the > IMAP.servers. > > Von meinem iDingens gesendet... > >>> Am 07.05.2023 um 01:55 schrieb davecc : >>> >> >> Glenn, >> Thank you very much for your reply. You are my only link to a possible >> solution. I’ve tried all I know to no avail, and Benny is not reachable (I >> hope he’s OK…). >> >> When I install MM 1.14 on my new Catalina volume with no migrated messages >> or settings, it progresses with the initial setup (it immediately asks for >> the first IMAP address). All seems normal. >> >> If I first copy the folder ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate (7.4 GB) >> to the new Catalina volume, when I launch MM I see this error: >> >> https://imgur.com/drWkmhR >> >> Re-launching brings the same message. >> >> The Original path is identical for both Application Support/MailMate folders >> (Sierra and Catalina volumes). >> >> In the Catalina Get Info box I clicked on the “Select New Original…” button >> and navigated to the Catalina volume’s Messages.noindex folder. Just for >> grins. Same error when attempting to launch MM. >> >> Any help or even wild suggestions are welcome. I have no Mac email client >> and my thumbs are wearing out! >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> >>> On 3 May 2023, at 10:08, davecc wrote: >>> I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual migration of needed apps. I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. I copied ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). >>> >>> By default (if you don’t enable “Indexed for Finder/Spotlight”), the >>> “Messages” folder is created as an alias pointing to “Messages.noindex”. >>> Does that alias exist, and does it point to your new Messages.noindex >>> folder? >>> >>> Glenn P. Parker >>> glenn.par...@comcast.net >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Saving attachments for multiple emails to folders
Hi, It is handy that you can select multiple emails and download all the attachments using the save attachments command. It would be even more handy if I could set this so that it organises these attachments into folders for each email. With the folder name being the date + subject. Does anyone have any ideas on how to achieve this? Perhaps a custom bundle? Or a script of somesort? Thanks Seamus -- Seamus Phillips (+44)7905521930 seamus.phill...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
