Re: [MlMt] MailMate deleting wrong message

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

I’ve always been able to swap the older one back in with no issues.  If anyone else has had a different experience, please share.Steve Mayersmaye...@me.comOn Nov 22, 2023, at 08:05, Michael Nietzold  wrote:




If an issue arises, can I simply revert by swapping it with the older app version? Or have there been changes in the storage or setup that make going back inadvisable?
On 22 Nov 2023, at 14:07, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:


Yep. Just unpack it and copy the resultant binary into your /Applications folder (or wherever you have it installed).

Make sure you quit your current copy of MailMate before copying the new one over.

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com


On Nov 22, 2023, at 06:27, Michael Nietzold  wrote:







Is I am on Version 1.14 (5939) - is it safe just to download the .tbz and overwrite the MM app?
On 21 Nov 2023, at 15:17, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote:

Looks like Benny addressed this issue in the newly available r5999 version of MM, available at http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/.
You can preview the release notes here: https://updates.mailmate-app.com/release_notes_archive/MailMate_r5999.html
Seems to be working for me on my 2019 Intel MBP running Sonoma 14.1.1. Still, it goes without saying that the usual caveats apply with these early test builds.
-Eric
On 9 Nov 2023, at 10:10, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote:

I think I'm seeing something similar. If there's a message selected in the header pane, and I right-click on a different message to perform some action (e.g. marking the message as junk), that action gets applied to the first selected message, NOT the one I right-clicked on.
I'm running r5998, and this one issue has me considering downgrading to the last "Benny-approved" test release.
-Eric
On 9 Nov 2023, at 9:50, Dan Romanchik wrote:

Here’s another weird problem that’s started to occur after installing 5997. My configuration includes:

2017 iMac with 3 GHz with Intel i5 quad-core processor
Ventura 13.6
MailMate 1.14 (5997)
SpamSieve 3.0.1

When I move a message to junk, MailMate highlights the next message, but if I hit the Delete key, it actually deletes the previous message.
Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] MailMate deleting wrong message

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Yep. Just unpack it and copy the resultant binary into your /Applications folder (or wherever you have it installed).Make sure you quit your current copy of MailMate before copying the new one over.Steve Mayersmaye...@me.comOn Nov 22, 2023, at 06:27, Michael Nietzold  wrote:





Is I am on Version 1.14 (5939) - is it safe just to download the .tbz and overwrite the MM app?
On 21 Nov 2023, at 15:17, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote:

Looks like Benny addressed this issue in the newly available r5999 version of MM, available at http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/.
You can preview the release notes here: https://updates.mailmate-app.com/release_notes_archive/MailMate_r5999.html
Seems to be working for me on my 2019 Intel MBP running Sonoma 14.1.1.  Still, it goes without saying that the usual caveats apply with these early test builds.
-Eric
On 9 Nov 2023, at 10:10, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote:

I think I'm seeing something similar.  If there's a message selected in the header pane, and I right-click on a different message to perform some action (e.g. marking the message as junk), that action gets applied to the first selected message, NOT the one I right-clicked on.
I'm running r5998, and this one issue has me considering downgrading to the last "Benny-approved" test release.
-Eric
On 9 Nov 2023, at 9:50, Dan Romanchik wrote:

Here’s another weird problem that’s started to occur after installing 5997. My configuration includes:

2017 iMac with 3 GHz with Intel i5 quad-core processor
Ventura 13.6
MailMate 1.14 (5997)
SpamSieve 3.0.1

When I move a message to junk, MailMate highlights the next message, but if I hit the Delete key, it actually deletes the previous message.
Regards,
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Re: [MlMt] Spinning wheel got to go round

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Also the latest test build r5997 is working fine for me here with 
SpamSieve 3.0.1.  You can find it at 
[MailMate_r5997.tbz](https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5997.tbz)



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On 23 Oct 2023, at 8:00, "David R. Oran" wrote:

Maybe first disable spamsieve and see if the problem goes away. That 
way you can at least pin the tail on the right part of the donkey?


On 23 Oct 2023, at 9:41, Dan Romanchik wrote:

Lately, MailMate has become unresponsive, almost to the point of it 
being unusable here. Here’s the setup:

- 2017 iMac with 3 GHz with Intel i5 quad-core processor
- Ventura 13.6
- MailMate 1.14 (5937)
- SpamSieve 3.0.1

It seems like this started—or at least got worse—when I upgraded 
to SpamSieve 3.0.1, but in another item here there’s been no other 
reports of that.


Anyone have any thoughts? It’s so bad that I’m really thinking of 
just dumping MailMate.


Regards,

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Re: [MlMt] Why do I get a skinny window?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Verified that things are working again with r5986.

Thanks for the quick turnaround Benny!

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 15 Sep 2023, at 14:12, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 15 Sep 2023, at 21:34, Steve Mayer wrote:

I can definitely say that it was not in r5984 nor r5983.  In fact 
r5985 was the first time I’ve seen this behavior as I use that 
feature all the time.


That makes sense. Ironically, the problem was that MailMate is now 
much better at tracking which mailboxes are needed, but it wrongly 
determined that it no longer needed the dynamically computed content 
of a submailbox if it had not been recently displayed.


(Implementation-wise, the submailboxes feature is still quite a mess, 
but for now I'm resisting an urge to re-implement it.)


I'll remove the update until I've had time to look into it. Sorry 
about the inconvenience.


I believe this particular issue is now fixed in r5986.

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Re: [MlMt] Why do I get a skinny window?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

I can definitely say that it was not in r5984 nor r5983.  In fact r5985 was the 
first time I’ve seen this behavior as I use that feature all the time.

Steve Mayer
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On 15 Sep 2023, at 12:11, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 15 Sep 2023, at 16:27, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:
>
>> I can verify this behavior as well with r5985.  R5984 didn’t exhibit this 
>> behavior.
>
> I can reproduce this issue. In fact, it seems to be a very general issue. I'm 
> not sure how I missed it or when I introduced the issue.
>
> I'll remove the update until I've had time to look into it. Sorry about the 
> inconvenience.
>
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Re: [MlMt] Why do I get a skinny window?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

I can verify this behavior as well with r5985.  R5984 didn’t exhibit 
this behavior.


Thanks,

Steve Mayer
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On 15 Sep 2023, at 5:25, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote:


On 15 Sep 2023, at 8:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 15 Sep 2023, at 11:45, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

It’s annoying. The email message is skinny. Here is [link to 
screenshot.](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6fgwxwcob0367rt3g2r42/Screenshot-2023-09-15-at-5.40.30-AM.png?rlkey=jsp71knw6f757gnf5pn8wnk4e=0).


This happens when I reboot my computer and start up MM. Any ideas 
how to change this?


But it doesn't happen if you just quit and relaunch MailMate itself? 
(Seems unlikely that a reboot would be necessary to reproduce it.)


In any case, could you try and see if it also happens with the latest 
upload of MailMate: 
http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5985.tbz


If it's still reproducible then write me via Help > Send Feedback an 
we'll debug it together.


(Some users still have a crashing issue with r5984. I don't think 
that is fixed yet, but hopefully I'll figure it out next week. Other 
than that, I believe it's pretty stable.)


Hi Benny, I ran into an issue with the "Tagged" smart mailbox using 
r5985.  It's set to show all messages that have tags, with a 
submailbox for each tag.  The mailbox itself works, and theres a 
sub-mailbox shown for each tag, but none of those submailboxes show 
any content.


I reverted to r5075 and the problem went away.

Thanks.

-Eric




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Re: [MlMt] Getting r5978

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Benny,

 I can verify that r5980 is able to start up. Will let you know if 
there are any other issues seen.


Thanks!

Steve Mayer
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On 6 Sep 2023, at 4:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 3 Sep 2023, at 15:34, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 3 Sep 2023, at 15:27, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote:

Hi Benny (and others), I'm currently running r5975 successfully.  
I've noticed a couple minor issues, which I've reported via the 
'Send Feedback...' menu item.  Benny, do you want us to report on 
issues we find on these experimental builds, or would it be better 
if we wait until you release an official test build before providing 
feedback?


Right now, it's better to wait if it's related to issues like 
crashes, wrong messages being shown, and similar. I've already 
changed a lot and I'm pretty deep down the internals of MailMate 
right now and behavior is very likely to change.


Any issues which persist with the next update will naturally have my 
interest.


There's a r5980 upload now. I don't think this will fix the issue Bill 
reported though. That one might be related to macOS 11 (and possibly 
earlier releases), but I don't know yet. I'll contact Bill off list.


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Re: [MlMt] Heads up: r5979 crashes on startup for me...

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

No worries at all Benny. We know that following the bleeding edge is a 
bit messy at times 


Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 5 Sep 2023, at 14:55, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 5 Sep 2023, at 22:39, Bill Cole wrote:


On 2023-09-05 at 16:05:38 UTC-0400 (Tue, 05 Sep 2023 14:05:38 -0600)
Steve Mayer via mailmate 
is rumored to have said:

Just a heads up that r5979 will not even start up for me. Crashes 
while trying to open the app.


Same here. Tried on 2 different Big Sur machines. Starting from a 
shell shows a segfault instantly, without any sort of message from 
MM. Unclear whether any reports were sent.



I rolled back to r5978 and all is working as expected.


Same here.


Thanks, I've removed the upload. Based on (most of) the crash reports 
received I can reproduce the main issue. It's related to using the 
“Bold font for unread messages” setting. Since it's reproducible 
I'll also be able to fix it. (There might also be other triggers for 
this bug.)


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[MlMt] Heads up: r5979 crashes on startup for me...

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Just a heads up that r5979 will not even start up for me. Crashes while trying 
to open the app.

I rolled back to r5978 and all is working as expected.

M1 Max Ventura 13.5.1

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Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 150, Issue 3

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Jenna,

Whom was this message directed to?  Perhaps some context that might help 
the rest of the list should be provided. Otherwise, taking it privately 
to the target of this might have been better.


I’ve looked back through threads and the ticket tracker looking for 
‘salty’ responses/behavior from anyone that has been part of this 
thread that you’ve replied to and I’m not finding anything.


We all know how busy Benny is. His one man feat of engineering is not 
lost on most of us.  I’ve been a Mailmate user for 10 years now and 
Benny has never let me down and (besides there being NO competitor to 
this great piece of software) is what keeps me a supporter.


Thanks,

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 3 Sep 2023, at 1:31, JennaJM via mailmate wrote:

Try Beta 5.  As for MM release? You have been making comments about 
the lack of releases and support lately in the forum, perhaps it is 
because you are not aware that Benny is doing this ON HIS OWN. Please 
place yourself in his shoes before being salty about what you perceive 
support and release timings to be.


Jenna


Message: 3
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 20:26:16 +
From: Henry Seiden 
To: MailMate Users 
Cc: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] r5978
Message-ID:
 
<0100018a526ccd6b-8911e322-7f3f-489e-9f1f-f699167d9b08-000...@email.amazonses.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

Steve,

Sorry to say, I cannot replicate what you’re reporting. But your 
issue

should be forwarded to Benny.

As to what I see, in my install of M-M, the menu when a message is
selected, (right click>Junk State>options) has **BOTH “Junk” and
“Not Junk”** checked! This is true fro any selected message in 
the
Inbox. So I would agree that is weird, since no junk is filtered in 
M-M.
In my case, it comes pretty close - having for years used SpamSieve 
for

junk mail filtering.

Here on my virtually unattended Mini, Apple Mail running SpamSieve 
3.0
b4 (beta) on a MacMini 2020 M1 to accomplish with Remote Training. 
That
lets other machines drop suspected spam that get through easily. 
I’m

told the new SpamSieve build 3.0 supports MailMate, however. Michael
Tsai (developer of SpamSieve) says he will continue to support 
MailMate.


If there is a final imminent release of MailMate, I may try it using
SpamSieve, but that seems way off.

My set up on the MacMini does all the filtering outside all other 
device
applications (both for mobile devices using standard iOS Mail apps 
and

other Mac like the MBP, both mobile and desktop connections.

So, I don’t use MM for ANY junk filtering. It can, I suppose, but 
it

simply isn’t worth my time to try, plus a clean inbox is much too
valuable to give up what works.

Take your point on experimental builds 1.14(r5978), though. R5975 
seemed
a bust having caused crashes on my machine (MBP2021 M1Pro) running 
MacOS

13.5.1 (22G90) and apparently others, too.

Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 1 Sep 2023, at 14:44, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:


I’m currently using r5978 on Ventura 13.5.1.  I’ve noticed
something in the latest few test builds related to the status of the
“Junk State” of the messages.  No matter where or what the 
message
is, Right Clicking on the message and choosing “Junk State” 
always

shows the ‘Junk’ entry with the checkmark.  I used to be able to
choose Junk or Not Junk, but I seem unable to be able to modify this
selection. Anyone else seeing this?

I’m also using the latest SpamSieve if that makes a difference.

Thanks,

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On 1 Sep 2023, at 14:44, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:


I’m currently using r5978 on Ventura 13.5.1.  I’ve noticed
something in the latest few test builds related to the status of the
“Junk State” of the messages.  No matter where or what the 
message
is, Right Clicking on the message and choosing “Junk State” 
always

shows the ‘Junk’ entry with the checkmark.  I used to be able to
choose Junk or Not Junk, but I seem unable to be able to modify this
selection. Anyone else seeing this?

I’m also using the latest SpamSieve if that makes a difference.



Yep, I'm running MM r5975 on Ventura 13.5.1 with SpamSieve and see
identical symptoms.

-Eric



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[MlMt] r5978

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

I’m currently using r5978 on Ventura 13.5.1.  I’ve noticed something in the 
latest few test builds related to the status of the “Junk State” of the 
messages.  No matter where or what the message is, Right Clicking on the 
message and choosing “Junk State” always shows the ‘Junk’ entry with the 
checkmark.  I used to be able to choose Junk or Not Junk, but I seem unable to 
be able to modify this selection. Anyone else seeing this?

I’m also using the latest SpamSieve if that makes a difference.

Thanks,

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Re: [MlMt] r5978

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

:D

I’m running Ventura 13.5.1.  You’re definitely more careful than I 
am….


Steve Mayer
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On 1 Sep 2023, at 9:13, Edward Thome wrote:


I should say that I am running Sonoma beta 7.
Personally, I am a careful person. To balance things out, I try r5978 
and Sonoma beta 7.


On 1 Sep 2023, at 10:10, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:


I’ve been having no issues with r5978 at all.

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 1 Sep 2023, at 8:32, Edward Thome wrote:


Hello, Everyone.

r5976 was working great for me. I am back to it after a little foray 
into r5978. Various mailboxes kept greying out as ‘disconnected’ 
and then they would not keep synced. Did anyone else notice that?


All the best to you all!
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Re: [MlMt] r5978

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

I’ve been having no issues with r5978 at all.

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 1 Sep 2023, at 8:32, Edward Thome wrote:


Hello, Everyone.

r5976 was working great for me. I am back to it after a little foray 
into r5978. Various mailboxes kept greying out as ‘disconnected’ 
and then they would not keep synced. Did anyone else notice that?


All the best to you all!
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Re: [MlMt] r5971 Update

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

I’m having no issues with 5974 (didn’t have any with 5971 though).  
Just letting you know.


Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 24 Aug 2023, at 23:22, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 24 Aug 2023, at 23:54, Scott wrote:

Just a heads up - I'm one of the people who has extremely regular 
crashes and 5974 crashes every time I try to send email, without 
fail.


I've removed the upload until I've had a chance to review the 
issue(s). I'll never learn not to upload and then go to bed :)


(Obviously, sending works for me.)


Data sent along, Benny, but, just wanted to let others know.


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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Maybe the MailMate .plist files could be saved off (into source 
control??) after you’ve got it working so that recovery for these 
types of situations is shorter?


Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 14 Jul 2023, at 9:39, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote:

I love the “Standard Single Column” for the correspondence pane. 
Very nice!


So I took r5970 for a spin.  Thrilled by the new *Standard Single 
Column*, as I said, especially for the correspondence pane.  And 
perhaps I’m imagining things, but it seems like navigation is a 
smidge faster, too.


I spent a bunch of time tweaking my layout for the *Correspondence* 
view and saved the new column arrangement as default.  I then went to 
have a cup of coffee.


When I came back, r5970 had crashed (Benny, logs were automatically 
sent a few minutes ago).


When I relaunched,
 • I was no longer in *Correspondence* view; MM had reverted to 
*Three Panes*.
 • All of my column adjustments were lost (see “Forgetful Columns 
 
”).

When I re-entered *Correspondence*, I discovered:
 • The *Correspondence* pane had also reverted its settings.
Somehow, I’d hoped that the massive rewrite would’ve solved the 
Forgetful Columns problem, but I guess not.


Honestly, I miss using MailMate as my day-to-day email client — but 
I can’t afford to spend ten or fifteen minutes every two or three 
days to retrain it to work the way I want.  (Yes, it does usually take 
that long:  MM sets itself to a set of columns that is wrong in almost 
every way — including the infernal “Outline Column,” which 
resets to “From,” which means I can’t delete the “From” 
column until after I’ve changed the “Outline Column” to 
something else.  I like to use a “Correspondents” column, but that 
makes “From” redundant.)


---

Icing on the cake:  we’ve had bad flooding here in Vermont 
 earlier this week, and the 
internet was very flakey.  Over and over again, my wife, my child, and 
I all had to remember to keep telling MailMate to “Take Fastmail 
Online” and “Take iCloud Online” and “Take Gmail Online.”  
*Please*, can’t the default be that MailMate will just poll every 
minute or two and *automatically* bring it back online?  Pretty 
please?



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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Thanks Benny. I’ve downloaded 5970 and will give it a whirl.

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 13 Jul 2023, at 3:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 13 Jul 2023, at 3:44, Personal wrote:

I don’t know…. Benny did say that he was disconnecting 5465 from 
5464 so we couldn’t auto-update because 5465 was 
super-experimental.  So I guess I’m asking whether it’s now 
stable enough that we should manually ‘jump’ ….


Well, I got some crash reports for r5969 -- all of them the same 
issue. It's not one I can reproduce, but I believe it is fixed in 
r5970. Going back, the r5965 release included a major rewrite of the 
message list and a (somewhat more limited) rewrite was done for the 
mailbox list in r5969. More importantly, r5969+ includes a fix for a 
long standing issue in test releases which some users experienced 
relatively frequently.


I welcome users to try out 
[MailMate_r5970.tbz](http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5970.tbz) 
and if there are no major issues then I'll make it a test release.


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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Thanks Simon!

Steve Mayer
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On 13 Jul 2023, at 0:20, Personal wrote:


Hi Steve

Apologies for the delay – all builds are downloadable from here:

https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/

including the new ones.

Cheers
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From: Steve Mayer 
Date: Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 12:17
To: MailMate Users 
Cc: Personal 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] 5969?

Sorry, 5969 build…

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 20:16, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:

Where can I grab the 5469 build from?

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 20:11, Steve Mayer wrote:

Gotcha. Hopefully Benny can tell us or maybe I’ll just risk it. Can 
always go back… :D


Thanks!

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 19:44, Personal wrote:
I don’t know…. Benny did say that he was disconnecting 5465 from 
5464 so we couldn’t auto-update because 5465 was super-experimental. 
 So I guess I’m asking whether it’s now stable enough that we 
should manually ‘jump’ …. Otherwise we’ll be waiting for the 
next official beta which could be months away.  The last time he did 
this I think we had to manually jump (at least, I did!)


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Simon
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From: mailmate  on behalf of Steve 
Mayer via mailmate 

Date: Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 10:35
To: MailMate Users 
Cc: Steve Mayer 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] 5969?

I’m still on 5964 using the ‘check for test builds’. I would 
have assumed that the 5965 beta would be tested and rolled back into 
the next test release. Am I wrong?


Thanks,

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com<mailto:smaye...@me.com>

On 12 Jul 2023, at 18:23, Simon Kaplan wrote:

Hi Mailmate friends

Unusually for me I didn’t jump right on the 5965 release when Benny 
put it out, but now I see we’re up to 5969 and I’m getting itchy 
fingers. What’s your view - is 5969 stable enough to jump to?


Thanks for your advice,

cheers
Simon

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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Sorry, 5969 build…

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 20:16, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:


Where can I grab the 5469 build from?

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 20:11, Steve Mayer wrote:

Gotcha. Hopefully Benny can tell us or maybe I’ll just risk it.  
Can always go back… :D


Thanks!

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 19:44, Personal wrote:

I don’t know…. Benny did say that he was disconnecting 5465 from 
5464 so we couldn’t auto-update because 5465 was 
super-experimental.  So I guess I’m asking whether it’s now 
stable enough that we should manually ‘jump’ …. Otherwise 
we’ll be waiting for the next official beta which could be months 
away.  The last time he did this I think we had to manually jump (at 
least, I did!)


Cheers
Simon
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“Success is not final.  Failure is not fatal.  It is the courage 
to continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill)




From: mailmate  on behalf of 
Steve Mayer via mailmate 

Date: Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 10:35
To: MailMate Users 
Cc: Steve Mayer 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] 5969?

I’m still on 5964 using the ‘check for test builds’. I would 
have assumed that the 5965 beta would be tested and rolled back into 
the next test release. Am I wrong?


Thanks,

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com<mailto:smaye...@me.com>

On 12 Jul 2023, at 18:23, Simon Kaplan wrote:

Hi Mailmate friends

Unusually for me I didn’t jump right on the 5965 release when 
Benny put it out, but now I see we’re up to 5969 and I’m getting 
itchy fingers. What’s your view - is 5969 stable enough to jump 
to?


Thanks for your advice,

cheers
Simon

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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Where can I grab the 5469 build from?

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 20:11, Steve Mayer wrote:

Gotcha. Hopefully Benny can tell us or maybe I’ll just risk it.  Can 
always go back… :D


Thanks!

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 19:44, Personal wrote:

I don’t know…. Benny did say that he was disconnecting 5465 from 
5464 so we couldn’t auto-update because 5465 was 
super-experimental.  So I guess I’m asking whether it’s now 
stable enough that we should manually ‘jump’ …. Otherwise 
we’ll be waiting for the next official beta which could be months 
away.  The last time he did this I think we had to manually jump (at 
least, I did!)


Cheers
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From: mailmate  on behalf of Steve 
Mayer via mailmate 

Date: Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 10:35
To: MailMate Users 
Cc: Steve Mayer 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] 5969?

I’m still on 5964 using the ‘check for test builds’. I would 
have assumed that the 5965 beta would be tested and rolled back into 
the next test release. Am I wrong?


Thanks,

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com<mailto:smaye...@me.com>

On 12 Jul 2023, at 18:23, Simon Kaplan wrote:

Hi Mailmate friends

Unusually for me I didn’t jump right on the 5965 release when Benny 
put it out, but now I see we’re up to 5969 and I’m getting itchy 
fingers. What’s your view - is 5969 stable enough to jump to?


Thanks for your advice,

cheers
Simon

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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Gotcha. Hopefully Benny can tell us or maybe I’ll just risk it.  Can 
always go back… :D


Thanks!

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 19:44, Personal wrote:

I don’t know…. Benny did say that he was disconnecting 5465 from 
5464 so we couldn’t auto-update because 5465 was super-experimental. 
 So I guess I’m asking whether it’s now stable enough that we 
should manually ‘jump’ …. Otherwise we’ll be waiting for the 
next official beta which could be months away.  The last time he did 
this I think we had to manually jump (at least, I did!)


Cheers
Simon
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“Success is not final.  Failure is not fatal.  It is the courage to 
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From: mailmate  on behalf of Steve 
Mayer via mailmate 

Date: Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 10:35
To: MailMate Users 
Cc: Steve Mayer 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] 5969?

I’m still on 5964 using the ‘check for test builds’. I would 
have assumed that the 5965 beta would be tested and rolled back into 
the next test release. Am I wrong?


Thanks,

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com<mailto:smaye...@me.com>

On 12 Jul 2023, at 18:23, Simon Kaplan wrote:

Hi Mailmate friends

Unusually for me I didn’t jump right on the 5965 release when Benny 
put it out, but now I see we’re up to 5969 and I’m getting itchy 
fingers. What’s your view - is 5969 stable enough to jump to?


Thanks for your advice,

cheers
Simon

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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

I’m still on 5964 using the ‘check for test builds’. I would have 
assumed that the 5965 beta would be tested and rolled back into the next 
test release.  Am I wrong?


Thanks,

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 12 Jul 2023, at 18:23, Simon Kaplan wrote:


Hi Mailmate friends

Unusually for me I didn’t jump right on the 5965 release when Benny 
put it out, but now I see we’re up to 5969 and I’m getting itchy 
fingers.  What’s your view - is 5969 stable enough to jump to?


Thanks for your advice,

cheers
Simon
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Re: [MlMt] Using MailMate to access mail from an iCloud account

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Ken,

 iCloud is my main mail account and works just fine via MM. What issues are you 
having?

Steve Mayer
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On 16 May 2023, at 16:01, Ken Pope wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My MailMate on my MacBook Pro accesses mail from my k...@kenpope.com account. 
>  But I’m having trouble setting MM up to also access mail from my iCloud 
> account.  Have tried all the recommended options I could find online, but 
> somehow I can’t get it to work.
>
> If any of you use MM to access mail from iCloud, I’d appreciate knowing what 
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Re: [MlMt] Proton Mail Bridge and Tags

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Roger,

Take a look at 
https://proton.me/support/labels-in-bridge?ref=instantsearch


Seems that real tags are not supported (per the statement at the bottom 
of the page).  Proton Mail’s Labels appear as folders within MailMate 
for the Proton Mail account,.


Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 8 May 2023, at 14:10, Roger Sheen wrote:


Dear MailMates,

Has anyone been able to get tags to work with the new Proton Mail 
Bridge?


https://proton.me/blog/new-proton-mail-bridge

I set up a filter in the Proton Mail web UI to add tags based on 
certain criteria, and they’re applied correctly in the web mailer, 
so the filter works.


However, when MailMate connects to the account via Proton Mail Bridge, 
it doesn’t show the tags in the Tags column. Any tags I add manually 
in MailMate are not reflected in the Proton Mail web UI.


Any ideas?

Regards,

Roger


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Re: [MlMt] forward email as attachment (full headers)?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Bram,

 Try the following:

1. Select your message
2. Go to the 'View' menu and choose 'Show Raw Message'
3. Select the message contents that now show up (click on the message 
and hit command-A)

4. Go to the 'Message' menu and choose Forward.

The contents, including headers, should be in your new message body.

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On 11 Mar 2020, at 9:40, Bram Abramson wrote:


All,

I’d like to forward a mildly-impressive phishing email to the Amazon 
folks, but am not having much success at finding a way to forward the 
whole thing (full headers).  Any tips?


Thanks,

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Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Hmmm... I'm not seeing that behavior unless the message I'm redirecting 
already contains quotes.


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On 27 Jan 2020, at 8:34, Ian Petersen wrote:


Steve,


That's a redirect.


I have to admit I’ve never heard of a redirect before. But choosing 
‘redirect’ in Mailmate’s menu seems to also add quotes to the 
‘redirected’ message. So that doesn’t really help …



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Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

That's a redirect.

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On 27 Jan 2020, at 8:25, Ian Petersen wrote:


Charlie,

E-mails have historically used quoting and indentation to provide 
context when replying to e-mails.


Yes, but a forward is not the same as a reply. I too would prefer that 
forwarded messages didn’t quote the forwarded message - or change it 
in any way.


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