[MlMt] Keyboard Shortcut to Moveto/GoTo Source Mailboxes
I've always been a mutt user, mostly for keyboardyness, and have decided to
give MailMate a try seeing the IndieGogo campaign. I love that most of the
shortcuts I love already work One part of the configuration though has me
stumped. I'd like to set it up such that typing "cd" brings me to my ToDo
folder, "cm" to Temp, etc, and equivalent, "sd" moves a message to my ToDo
folder, "sm" to Temp, etc.
I know that the relevant portion of my KeyBindings file needs to look like:
// Combo keys
"c" = {
"d" = ( "goToMailbox:", "ToDo" );
"i" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX" );
"s" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Sent Items );
"t" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Trash" );
"m" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Temp" );
"j" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Junk Mail" );
};
"s" = {
"d" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "ToDo" );
"i" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "INBOX" );
"m" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "Temp" );
"r" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "Receipts2013" );
"n" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "Junk Mail/NotSpam" );
"y" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "Junk Mail/Spam" );
};
And in fact, it works for Inbox. And I can use the big long UUID for any of
the top mailboxes (although saving to them doesn't work). What I'm struggling
with is how to make these shortcuts open (or save to) the mailboxes listed
under my IMAP account's name under "SOURCES". I've tried "Temp", "/Temp",
"ProviderName/Temp", and nothing works.
Help! Thanks!
Will
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Re: [MlMt] Keyboard Shortcut to Moveto/GoTo Source Mailboxes
Steve,
Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get that to
work. I've tried:
"m" = ( "goToMailbox:", "imaps://mail.server.com/INBOX/Temp" );
"m" = ( "goToMailbox:",
"imaps://mail.server.com:993/INBOX/Temp" );
"m" = ( "goToMailbox:", "imaps://mail.server.com/Temp" );
And none appear to resolve. Any further advice? Am I missing something silly?
Thanks,
Will
On 13 Nov 2013, at 10:07, Steve Mayer wrote:
> Will,
>
> If I'm not mistaken, you need to use the full imap:// string when naming
> mailboxes in the keybindings:
>
>
> "m" = ( "moveToMailBox:", "imap:///Temp" );
>
> I could be completely wrong, but this is what works for me.
>
> --
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>
> On 13 Nov 2013, at 8:58, Will Styler wrote:
>
>> I've always been a mutt user, mostly for keyboardyness, and have decided to
>> give MailMate a try seeing the IndieGogo campaign. I love that most of the
>> shortcuts I love already work One part of the configuration though has me
>> stumped. I'd like to set it up such that typing "cd" brings me to my ToDo
>> folder, "cm" to Temp, etc, and equivalent, "sd" moves a message to my ToDo
>> folder, "sm" to Temp, etc.
>>
>> I know that the relevant portion of my KeyBindings file needs to look like:
>>
>> // Combo keys
>> "c" = {
>> "d" = ( "goToMailbox:", "ToDo" );
>> "i" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX" );
>> "s" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Sent Items );
>> "t" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Trash" );
>> "m" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Temp" );
>> "j" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Junk Mail" );
>> };
>>
>> "s" = {
>> "d" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "ToDo" );
>> "i" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "INBOX" );
>> "m" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "Temp" );
>> "r" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "Receipts2013" );
>> "n" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "Junk Mail/NotSpam" );
>> "y" = ( "moveToMailbox:", "Junk Mail/Spam" );
>> };
>>
>> And in fact, it works for Inbox. And I can use the big long UUID for any of
>> the top mailboxes (although saving to them doesn't work). What I'm
>> struggling with is how to make these shortcuts open (or save to) the
>> mailboxes listed under my IMAP account's name under "SOURCES". I've tried
>> "Temp", "/Temp", "ProviderName/Temp", and nothing works.
>>
>> Help! Thanks!
>>
>> Will
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Re: [MlMt] Keyboard Shortcut to Moveto/GoTo Source Mailboxes
Benny, Thank you very much, I've got it working now. I definitely understand that keybindings are a particularly geeky thing, but it's the reason why Mailmate is about to win me away from Mutt after many years (which is HARD to do). GUI isn't really necessary, as everything else has been easily configured, but a more standard hook for keybinding to account mailboxes (SourceName/Boxname?) would have made the transition much easier, as well as some method for debugging keystrokes (as I've listened to a lot of beeps in the last few days, only to realize that I'd double-assigned something, etc.). Would you be receptive to a few further suggestions for bindable actions? Thanks! Will On 14 Nov 2013, at 0:33, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 14 Nov 2013, at 1:44, Will Styler wrote: > >> Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get that to >> work. I've tried: >> >> "m" = ( "goToMailbox:", "imaps://mail.server.com/INBOX/Temp" ); >> "m" = ( "goToMailbox:", >> "imaps://mail.server.com:993/INBOX/Temp" ); >> "m" = ( "goToMailbox:", "imaps://mail.server.com/Temp" ); >> >> And none appear to resolve. Any further advice? Am I missing something >> silly? > > No, it's tricky. It's documented > [here](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings#special_actions) > but not very well. The best you can do is to simply see how the IMAP account > name is encoded here: > > ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/IMAP/ > > And it's always `imap:`, for example: > > imap://usern...@mail.server.com/INBOX/Temp > > or if the username itself contains a `@` then it'll be something like: > > imap://user%40server@mail.server.com/INBOX/Temp > > Creating custom key bindings is a low level feature and this would of course > be much easier if it had some kind of GUI (no plans to do so though). In this > particular case, configuring a shortcut to go to a particular mailbox is on > the todo as part of some planned changes for the mailbox editor. > > -- > Benny > http://freron.com/crowdfund2014 > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] gpg2 error re OpenPGP messages
Erik, I show my sent message as verified just fine. I've installed GPG using GPGTools, and Mailmate had no problem doing all the GPG-ish things I love, without any configuration. Will On 14 Nov 2013, at 10:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 14 Nov 2013, at 17:51, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote: > >> Will’s message just came through with the (attached) error showing in >> MailMate. Does this mean that *he’s* doing something wrong, or that *I* am? > > It means that MailMate cannot verify the signature added by Will (the proof > that he wrote the message). > >> I don’t find the “details” very helpful, though I might if I understand PGP >> at all: > > You don't need the details. The error in the banner tells you what the > problem is. You need to install GPGTools if you want MailMate to able to > verify the signature. (The banner wrongly uses the word “create”. I should > fix that.) > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Suggested Keyboard Shortcuts
So, Mailmate is awesome in many ways, but most importantly, it's the first
multi-window, GUI-able Mac Mail Client that I've found which is as
keyboard-friendly as mutt, and thus, allows me to power through my mail as
quickly.
I've got most of my Mutt shortcuts ported over, but a few desires remain. I've
checked the Key Binding Selectors page, but can't figure out ways to do the
following:
1) When composing, add (and select for addition) the CC/BCC/Later box.
Ideally, such shortcuts would display the field if hidden, and select them for
entry if visible .
2) I'd love to be able to hide/show the mailboxes sidebar with a single key
(e.g. "b"), but this isn't configurable using the OSX keyboard panel. Would a
hook within the app be possible?
3) Similarly, I'd love to be able to show and hide message view with a single
key. Another way to approach this would be to have a mutt layout, where the
message view is hidden ("index") until a message is selected and then "enter",
at which point the message view shows up.
4) Filter by attribute. Right now, if I use the filter key, it starts me off
filtering by "From" with the entry box selected, which is well and good, but
req uires significant mousing to set criteria. I'd love the ability to set
something like:
"/" = {
"f" = ( "FilterBy:", "From" );
"t" = ( "FilterBy:", "To" );
"s" = ( "FilterBy:", "Subject" );
"a" = ( "FilterBy:", "Any Header" );
"d" = ( "FilterBy:", "Date" ); "g" = ( "FilterBy:",
"Tags/Keywords" );
};
Which would allow me to "/a Martha /s conference" (look for any message where
anybody named Martha's been involved, then add another criterion where the
message's subject has mentioned a conference). That would be incredibly
powerful and quick.
None of these are crucial, and you've already got my money (I'm really rooting
for IndieGogo), but as you're working on 2.x, those would be great to consider.
Thanks!
Will
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Re: [MlMt] gpg2 error re OpenPGP messages
Erik, Realize that GPGTools is separate software, downloadable elsewhere. I've had GPG (which is GnuPG, which is a free-and-open-source version of PGP) installed for a long time for Mutt, and I assume that MailMate was just smart enough to read my configuration and figure it out. It's not that I have a special copy of MailMate, just that I've set up GPG before, and as such, MailMate read it. The issue of GPG messages being unverifiable without GPG is a universal one. It's rather like if only one out of the 90 apples at the store has a label saying "Wash this apple, it may be coated in pesticides". Naive buyers may assume that that Apple's different, rather than that that one apple is simply more honest, and all of them may be coated in pesticides. Grandma, if using MM without GPGTools, may look at my message and go "Whoa, sketchy". That's a risk I take when I sign mail. But I assume that most of the people I talk with either a) Won't care or b) Will look into GPG Tools, or c) Have it installed, and will appreciate the assurances. I appreciate the way MM handles the signatures. It's a good way to raise awareness that such things exist. Just my two cents, Will On 14 Nov 2013, at 10:07, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote: > Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > >> It means that MailMate cannot verify the signature added by Will (the proof >> that he wrote the message) You need to install GPGTools if you want >> MailMate to able to verify the signature. > > and Will Styler wrote: > >> I show my sent message as verified just fine. I've installed GPG using >> GPGTools, and Mailmate had no problem doing all the GPG-ish things I love, >> without any configuration. > > So because Will has sent this as a secure message and because I somehow have > a copy of MailMate that doesn’t include GPGTools, I get a message that seems > to imply that Will’s message is somehow less verifiable than all the messages > that I get that *don’t* have any errors? > > This seems less than intuitive. > > What should I tell my wife or my mother-in-law when they see an error like > this? > > And is there something I should do to make sure that my copy of MailMate > supports GPG? (And is it “GPG” or “PGP”? I’d thought it was “PGP” for > “pretty good privacy”.) > > Thanks for any further elucidation, > > — Erik > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Too many logins?
Sorry to be so vocal here, but today's my day for setting up Mailmate. So, my IMAP server (fast mail) only allows 1000 logins/hour. I've not run into this limit in any app (except OfflineIMAP, but that's a whole other bag of issues), yet this seems to be happening often in Mailmate. I've currently got all mailboxes but INBOX set to "manual", and INBOX is set to CONNECTED (which I assume means "IDLE"). The activity viewer shows one IDLE for inbox, but somehow, I've just hit the limit again. Help! Will signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Too many logins?
Looking at it again, now that my hour has expired, I'm getting, in addition to the IDLE, "I0 Capability" then "I5 Logout" over and over again. There are occasional: "Failed to Select Mailbox 'Drafts' errors in that I0/I5 vacillation's logs. Which is odd, because that mailbox does exist. C: I4 SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE) S: I4 NO Mailbox does not exist Error: Server response: “I4 NO Mailbox does not exist”. Command attempted: “I4 SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE)”. Error: Failed to select mailbox 'Drafts' Does that provide more info? Thanks! Will On 14 Nov 2013, at 13:01, Will Styler wrote: > Sorry to be so vocal here, but today's my day for setting up Mailmate. > > So, my IMAP server (fast mail) only allows 1000 logins/hour. I've not run > into this limit in any app (except OfflineIMAP, but that's a whole other bag > of issues), yet this seems to be happening often in Mailmate. > > I've currently got all mailboxes but INBOX set to "manual", and INBOX is set > to CONNECTED (which I assume means "IDLE"). The activity viewer shows one > IDLE for inbox, but somehow, I've just hit the limit again. > > Help! > > Will > > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
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Benny, On 14 Nov 2013, at 14:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 14 Nov 2013, at 22:02, Will Styler wrote: > >> Looking at it again, now that my hour has expired, I'm getting, in addition >> to the IDLE, >> >> "I0 Capability" then "I5 Logout" over and over again. > > Oh, so it is a busy loop bug. Thanks for reporting this. > >> There are occasional: "Failed to Select Mailbox 'Drafts' errors in that >> I0/I5 vacillation's logs. Which is odd, because that mailbox does exist. >> >> C: I4 SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE) >> S: I4 NO Mailbox does not exist >> Error: Server response: “I4 NO Mailbox does not exist”. Command attempted: >> “I4 SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE)”. >> Error: Failed to select mailbox 'Drafts' >> >> Does that provide more info? > > Yes, MailMate does the wrong thing. It should be `INBOX/Drafts` for that > server. You might be able to fix it by looking at this file: > > ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist > > Look for the `drafts` key (if there is one). But I would of course like to > find out how it got into this state (the tricky part). And I should also look > into why it busy-looped instead of failing after a few attempts (the easy > part I hope). Changing to /INBOX/Drafts in the full path in that file did not fix it. I deleted the whole source and am trying again. For what it's worth, I imported the settings from Mail.app. Maybe that's the problem? Thanks for the help, and for fixing this bug :) Will > > Sorry about the inconvenience. > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Change default folder for attachments
I too am interested in this question. I'm sorely missing my "save all attachments to desktop" key macro from Mutt. Will On 15 Nov 2013, at 14:51, Doug Harrison wrote: > Is there a way to change the default folder where attachments are saved (when > you use Save not Save As)? > > Thanks, > Doug > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mavericks compatibilty
Seems to be working fine here, I've only used it on Mavericks. Will On 25 Nov 2013, at 19:47, Ralph Alvy wrote: > Can I safely assume MailMate will not be broken if I upgrade to Mavericks? I > currently use it on Mountain Lion. > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Delete with Prejudice?
Hello! I'm wondering if there exists a (key-bindable?) command to flat-out delete a message. Not just to move the message to the trash, but to immediately damn it to the ether, removing it from the computer, server, and universe in general without even bothering with the the trash can. This, as well as keyboard-based search, is the last thing I miss from Mutt. Thanks, Will signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Delete with Prejudice?
Is there a key-binding selector for "Expunge/DeleteNow"? I don't see one listed. Thanks! Will On 3 Dec 2013, at 4:59, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 3 Dec 2013, at 4:46, Kee Hinckley wrote: > >> ``Option-Delete`` does a "Delete Now", which I think is what you're looking >> for. > > Yes, this schedules a so-called IMAP expunge immediately and, if online, the > message is gone for good a few seconds later. > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Copy-paste Bulk Addresses
One thing I've missed from Mutt or Mail.app is the ability to open an old message (say, sent to a large group) and then copy/paste the addresses in the "To" field from that into the "To" field of another message. Am I missing something or is that a missing feature? Thanks! Will signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Auto-resize the top pane?
Hi there, I'd just like to request that we be given the option to automatically resize the top pane (with the list of emails) based on the number of messages, perhaps implementing a "max messages shown" setting for when you're in a mailbox with many, many messages. In short, it makes little sense to have 80% of the pane empty when you've only got one or two messages in your inbox, and makes similarly little sense to have to re-size that top pane to see new mail that comes in. I've just noticed that I spend an inordinate amount of time dragging that little bar around. Thanks! Will ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
