Re: [MlMt] A "Show only unread" toggle

[Max Rydahl Andersen]

On 8 Aug 2016, at 13:54, Robert Brenstein wrote:


On 07.08.2016 at 18:54 Uhr +0200 Max Rydahl Andersen apparently wrote:
I guess you  could generalize it for other things than unread but 
honestly I think if the message view could just have a toggle

That switch between showing all  and all
Unread you would cover all
The cases i can practically think of :)

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Are you sure you mean the message view? I would think that a checkbox 
"only unread" in the list view would serve the discussed purpose.


Sorry, Yes - I meant message *list* view :)

thanks for spotting that.

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Re: [MlMt] A "Show only unread" toggle

[Robert Brenstein]

On 07.08.2016 at 18:54 Uhr +0200 Max Rydahl Andersen apparently wrote:
I guess you  could generalize it for other things than unread but 
honestly I think if the message view could just have a toggle

That switch between showing all  and all
Unread you would cover all
The cases i can practically think of :)

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Are you sure you mean the message view? I would think that a checkbox 
"only unread" in the list view would serve the discussed purpose.

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Re: [MlMt] A "Show only unread" toggle

[Max Rydahl Andersen]

I guess you  could generalize it for other things than unread but honestly I 
think if the message view could just have a toggle
That switch between showing all  and all
Unread you would cover all
The cases i can practically think of :)

/max
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> On 5 Aug 2016, at 21:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen  wrote:
> 
>> On 3 Aug 2016, at 8:48, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>> 
>> In most reading mail cases only unread is relevant but once I see a pos that 
>> are interesting I often want to remind myself what other topics I've 
>> discussed with this person. The fastest way for that is to have the mailbox 
>> include read mails too. This is much much faster than replicating the search 
>> in this folder - hence why I suggest having s way to toggle show all/unread 
>> to quickly filter/unfilter without breaking the flow of what next/previous 
>> mail shortcut will go to.
>> 
>> Hope that explains it better.
> 
> I believe I understand the request. Individual mailboxes allow conditions to 
> be specified and you might get something like you request if this was easily 
> toggled on/off, but if I understand correctly then this wouldn't be 
> sufficient since you need this to work on any mailbox (which would be 
> cumbersome to setup).
> 
> I guess you need some kind of temporary filtering easily toggled on/off. You 
> might even need it on a per mailbox basis although it seems your use case 
> could also be a global filter. It's not straightforward how that should/could 
> work, but I'll keep it in mind.
> 
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Re: [MlMt] A "Show only unread" toggle

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 3 Aug 2016, at 8:48, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

In most reading mail cases only unread is relevant but once I see a 
pos that are interesting I often want to remind myself what other 
topics I've discussed with this person. The fastest way for that is to 
have the mailbox include read mails too. This is much much faster than 
replicating the search in this folder - hence why I suggest having s 
way to toggle show all/unread to quickly filter/unfilter without 
breaking the flow of what next/previous mail shortcut will go to.


Hope that explains it better.


I believe I understand the request. Individual mailboxes allow 
conditions to be specified and you might get something like you request 
if this was easily toggled on/off, but if I understand correctly then 
this wouldn't be sufficient since you need this to work on any mailbox 
(which would be cumbersome to setup).


I guess you need some kind of temporary filtering easily toggled on/off. 
You might even need it on a per mailbox basis although it seems your use 
case could also be a global filter. It's not straightforward how that 
should/could work, but I'll keep it in mind.


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Re: [MlMt] A "Show only unread" toggle

[Patrik Fältström]

On 3 Aug 2016, at 8:36, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

> I got 50 or so virtual mailboxes I go through. I don't want to have 100 to 
> define :/

Yeah, completely understood... I am lucky then to be able to create virtual 
mailboxes including other virtual mailboxes so I do not have to "go through" 
more than a few... Three in fact... When I read and deal with mail. The rest 
(including what you talk about -- find what I discussed with a person) I do via 
search.

But I do, let me say that explicitly, understand your situation.

   Patrik

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> On 3 August 2016 at 06:12:49, Patrik Fältström (p...@frobbit.se) wrote:
>
>> On 3 Aug 2016, at 0:27, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>>
>> It would be nice but for important mailboxes I just set up smart
>> submailboxes that show only the unread messages.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Or even groups of important mailboxes, i.e. multiple mailboxes grouped as
>> one virtual one.
>>
>> See  for a description of my
>> workflow that almost entirely is built using virtual mailboxes.
>>
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Re: [MlMt] A "Show only unread" toggle

[Max Rydahl Andersen]

Let me give an example of where having double defined folders feels at
least to me cumbersome.

Two of my smart folders are VIP's and My directs which list various people
outside and inside my org that I like to make sure I at least are aware of
what topics they are discussing currently and react if need be. Each folder
has automatic sub mailboxes per person.

In most reading mail cases only unread is relevant but once I see a pos
that are interesting I often want to remind myself what other topics I've
discussed with this person. The fastest way for that is to have the mailbox
include read mails too. This is much much faster than replicating the
search in this folder - hence why I suggest having s way to toggle show
all/unread to quickly filter/unfilter without breaking the flow of what
next/previous mail shortcut will go to.

Hope that explains it better.

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On 3 August 2016 at 08:36:54, Max Rydahl Andersen (max.ander...@gmail.com)
wrote:

> I got 50 or so virtual mailboxes I go through. I don't want to have 100 to
> define :/
>
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> On 3 August 2016 at 06:12:49, Patrik Fältström (p...@frobbit.se) wrote:
>
>> On 3 Aug 2016, at 0:27, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>>
>> It would be nice but for important mailboxes I just set up smart
>> submailboxes that show only the unread messages.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Or even groups of important mailboxes, i.e. multiple mailboxes grouped as
>> one virtual one.
>>
>> See  for a description of my
>> workflow that almost entirely is built using virtual mailboxes.
>>
>> paf
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Re: [MlMt] A "Show only unread" toggle

[Max Rydahl Andersen]

I got 50 or so virtual mailboxes I go through. I don't want to have 100 to
define :/

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On 3 August 2016 at 06:12:49, Patrik Fältström (p...@frobbit.se) wrote:

> On 3 Aug 2016, at 0:27, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>
> It would be nice but for important mailboxes I just set up smart
> submailboxes that show only the unread messages.
>
>
> +1
>
> Or even groups of important mailboxes, i.e. multiple mailboxes grouped as
> one virtual one.
>
> See  for a description of my
> workflow that almost entirely is built using virtual mailboxes.
>
> paf
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Re: [MlMt] A "Show only unread" toggle

[Patrik Fältström]

On 3 Aug 2016, at 0:27, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

> It would be nice but for important mailboxes I just set up smart submailboxes 
> that show only the unread messages.

+1

Or even groups of important mailboxes, i.e. multiple mailboxes grouped as one 
virtual one.

See  for a description of my workflow 
that almost entirely is built using virtual mailboxes.

   paf


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Re: [MlMt] A "Show only unread" toggle

[Steven M. Bellovin]

It would be nice but for important mailboxes I just set up smart 
submailboxes that show only the unread messages.


On 2 Aug 2016, at 4:37, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


Hi,

Would it not be great to have a "Show Unread/All" toggle for mailmate 
in the toolbar or command available ?


I initially only showed unread in my filters, but overtime I learned 
that I often look around for the unread
mails too when going deeper - thus my filters have unread in them too 
since searching is too slow most of the time in comparison.


But that leaves me with some mailboxes where there are several mails 
between the unread and often I would just like
to see the unread. Clicking "Sort by unread" messes up all 
threading/visual cues so that is not an option.


WDYT about adding a toggle button for show All/Unread so one don't 
have to miss out :)


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