Re: [MlMt] A couple of things about the inbox window(?)

2016-08-05 Thread Paul Sture

On 5 Aug 2016, at 19:17, Bill Cole wrote:



Option-shift-arrow appears to do what you want. This is a standard 
behavior in list views.


Works in Finder too.  I didn't know that one, so thanks very much.

Surprisingly, despite having used every MacOS version since System 
3.2/Finder 5.3, this is the first I've heard of the cmd-shift-arrow 
combination selecting "all the way" up or down, although it does 
indeed seem to have been standard behavior in text views forever. I 
guess I've met my minimum quota of new facts for the day...


I just learned that one the other day when I revisited the BBEdit 
tutorial. Which means I should have come across it before... Hopefully 
it'll stick this time.

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Re: [MlMt] A couple of things about the inbox window(?)

2016-08-05 Thread Bill Cole

On 5 Aug 2016, at 12:42, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:


On 5 Aug 2016, at 11:51, Randall Meadows wrote:


On 5 Aug 2016, at 7:07, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

First, I’m not sure that’s what it’s called, but I mean the 
main window with the list of messages.


Highlight a message in the list. Do a shift-up/down arrow. The 
message above/below the one you’re on gets added to the selection. 
Perfect. Now cmd-shift-arrow. The same thing happens. What I would 
expect to happen is that the whole set of messages above/below gets 
added to the selection. Mail.app doesn’t do this either, FWIW. I 
guess this is because I expect cmd-arrow to move me to the top or 
bottom of a list of items, which it doesn’t here, just like it 
moves me to the top or bottom of a body of text. (In the Finder, 
cmd-arrow moves you to the enclos-ing/-ed folder.)


Just a SWAG, but when selecting, ⌘ takes on a different meaning, 
typically allowing a disjoint selection.  No idea if that's what 
going on here, but might be an explanation for your expectation.


Yes, when clicking, ⌘ enables discrete selection while shift does 
continuous, but with arrows, shift enables select and ⌘ makes the 
movement go “all the way” in whatever direction you’re going. 
This works with text and I guess my expectation is that it would work 
here in the same way.


Option-shift-arrow appears to do what you want. This is a standard 
behavior in list views.


Surprisingly, despite having used every MacOS version since System 
3.2/Finder 5.3, this is the first I've heard of the cmd-shift-arrow 
combination selecting "all the way" up or down, although it does indeed 
seem to have been standard behavior in text views forever. I guess I've 
met my minimum quota of new facts for the day...

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Re: [MlMt] A couple of things about the inbox window(?)

2016-08-05 Thread John D. Muccigrosso

On 5 Aug 2016, at 11:51, Randall Meadows wrote:


On 5 Aug 2016, at 7:07, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

First, I’m not sure that’s what it’s called, but I mean the 
main window with the list of messages.


Highlight a message in the list. Do a shift-up/down arrow. The 
message above/below the one you’re on gets added to the selection. 
Perfect. Now cmd-shift-arrow. The same thing happens. What I would 
expect to happen is that the whole set of messages above/below gets 
added to the selection. Mail.app doesn’t do this either, FWIW. I 
guess this is because I expect cmd-arrow to move me to the top or 
bottom of a list of items, which it doesn’t here, just like it 
moves me to the top or bottom of a body of text. (In the Finder, 
cmd-arrow moves you to the enclos-ing/-ed folder.)


Just a SWAG, but when selecting, ⌘ takes on a different meaning, 
typically allowing a disjoint selection.  No idea if that's what going 
on here, but might be an explanation for your expectation.


Yes, when clicking, ⌘ enables discrete selection while shift does 
continuous, but with arrows, shift enables select and ⌘ makes the 
movement go “all the way” in whatever direction you’re going. This 
works with text and I guess my expectation is that it would work here in 
the same way.


John
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Re: [MlMt] A couple of things about the inbox window(?)

2016-08-05 Thread Randall Meadows

On 5 Aug 2016, at 7:07, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

First, I’m not sure that’s what it’s called, but I mean the main 
window with the list of messages.


Highlight a message in the list. Do a shift-up/down arrow. The message 
above/below the one you’re on gets added to the selection. Perfect. 
Now cmd-shift-arrow. The same thing happens. What I would expect to 
happen is that the whole set of messages above/below gets added to the 
selection. Mail.app doesn’t do this either, FWIW. I guess this is 
because I expect cmd-arrow to move me to the top or bottom of a list 
of items, which it doesn’t here, just like it moves me to the top or 
bottom of a body of text. (In the Finder, cmd-arrow moves you to the 
enclos-ing/-ed folder.)


Just a SWAG, but when selecting, ⌘ takes on a different meaning, 
typically allowing a disjoint selection.  No idea if that's what going 
on here, but might be an explanation for your expectation.

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