[MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Rob McClure

MM Newb here…
HTML markup is not my forte but I can't seem to get Markdown to do what 
I think it should.
I assume that bulleted list and numbered lists should look indented and 
such, but I'm not seeing that at all, in fact I don't see anything 
different in the rendered view than I do in the edit pane. Same issue 
using Brett Terpstra's [Markdown Service 
Tools](http://brettterpstra.com/projects/markdown-service-tools/).


For example, I thought
* this should be a bulleted list
* and at the same level
** this should be next level indent I thought

1. and this should be a numbered list
2. and so on
2.1 to indent a level

I tried
# hash sign
## but that is doing headings…

And here is Terpstra's markdown service attempt for bullets (I select 
then apply the service)

* bullet one
* two
* indent

And numbers
1. number 1
2. number 2
3. number 2.1

But I'm getting all sorts of weird things, or nothing. Where do I go to 
find out what to do?


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Rob McClure
r...@mcclurenunn.com

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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Gustavo Daniel Villarreal

On 13 Dec 2013, at 19:19, Rob McClure wrote:


\*\* this should be next level indent I thought


Its actually [space]* for one indent level, and [space][space]* for two 
indent levels (further indentation levels are not supported):


```
* First level
 * Second level
  * Third level
```

* First level
 * Second level
  * Third level
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread TJ Luoma
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Rob McClure  wrote:

> But I'm getting all sorts of weird things, or nothing. Where do I go to
find
> out what to do?

1. This is the first level
2. This is also the first level
 1. This is the first sub-2
2. This is the second sub-2
 1. This is deeper still
2. deep
3. very deep
3. back to the top level

Note that 1. will work but 1) won't

You can use - or + or * for bullets, but NOT "#" which is for Hx headers.

Here's the "official" syntax guide:

http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#list

http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/ is the official version of all
things Markdown syntax.

But when it comes down to it, there are two apps I find indispensable for
writing Markdown:

1) MultiMarkdown Composer - http://multimarkdown.com/download/

2) Marked 2 - http://marked2app.com

The first is an editor with built-in preview which can either show you
instant format using "strict" Markdown _or_ in the very popular
"MultiMarkdown" variant. Really handy because it will immediately show you
how things will look when formatted.

The second is a preview tool which will work with almost any text editor
(plus things like Scrivener and MarsEdit). It's a separate app that you use
with apps that don't have their own previewer built in. _AND_ the developer
(Brett Terpstra) is also a recent MailMate conver--err "user" :-)

I like both of them. Both of have free trials available.

TjL
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Kee Hinckley

On 13 Dec 2013, at 20:45, TJ Luoma wrote:

But when it comes down to it, there are two apps I find indispensable 
for

writing Markdown:

1) MultiMarkdown Composer - http://multimarkdown.com/download/

2) Marked 2 - http://marked2app.com


Both excellent recommendations. I do most of my large document writing 
using Scrivener and Marked. And smaller stuff (e.g. all meeting notes) 
in NoteBooks (available on the Mac, iPhone, and iPad, and syncs between 
all of those automatically via Dropbox). NoteBooks doesn't currently use 
MultiMarkdown, but they are talking of switching. Aside from some 
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Kee Hinckley

On 13 Dec 2013, at 20:24, Gustavo Daniel Villarreal wrote:


On 13 Dec 2013, at 19:19, Rob McClure wrote:


\*\* this should be next level indent I thought


Its actually [space]* for one indent level, and [space][space]* for 
two indent levels (further indentation levels are not supported):


The nice thing about standards...

The [official markdown 
docs](http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#list) say that 
indentation is 4 spaces or one tab. Of course they don't specifically 
stay that about _lists_, but in general reference to indentation for 
things.


E.g.

* Level 1
 * Still level 1
  * Still level 1
   * Still level 1
* Now level 2
* Also level 2 (tab)

```
* Level 1
 * Still level 1
  * Still level 1
   * Still level 1
* Now level 2 (4 spaces)
* Also level 2 (tab)
```

It's possible that the processor that MailMate is using is loser with 
that spec, since it's trying to capture intent in email from people who 
aren't really thinking about markdown. I'm using MultiMarkdown for my 
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Rob McClure

Thanks,
So are you both saying you are composing in a separate application then 
pasting the final content into MM when composing a message? Even a 
reply?

Or can I embed these into MM?

Rob McClure
sharkez at g

On 13 Dec 2013, at 18:56, Kee Hinckley wrote:


On 13 Dec 2013, at 20:45, TJ Luoma wrote:

But when it comes down to it, there are two apps I find indispensable 
for

writing Markdown:

1) MultiMarkdown Composer - http://multimarkdown.com/download/

2) Marked 2 - http://marked2app.com


Both excellent recommendations. I do most of my large document writing 
using Scrivener and Marked. And smaller stuff (e.g. all meeting notes) 
in NoteBooks (available on the Mac, iPhone, and iPad, and syncs 
between all of those automatically via Dropbox). NoteBooks doesn't 
currently use MultiMarkdown, but they are talking of switching. Aside 
from some handling of code blocks and definition lists, it's pretty 
compatible.___

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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread TJ Luoma
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Rob McClure  wrote:

> So are you both saying you are composing in a separate application then
> pasting the final content into MM when composing a message? Even a reply?
> Or can I embed these into MM?
>

I was suggesting it as an option until you learn Markdown enough to be
comfortable with it.

Of course, being me, I couldn't resist the urge to make a Keyboard Maestro
macro to facilitate the process of using MultiMarkdown Composer(1) as an
external editor for MailMate:

https://github.com/tjluoma/km-mailmate-edit-in-external-editor

(1) You can change it to use any editor you like, that's just what it uses
by default.

TjL
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-15 Thread Kee Hinckley

> On Dec 13, 2013, at 9:16 PM, "Rob McClure"  wrote:
> 
> Thanks,
> So are you both saying you are composing in a separate application then 
> pasting the final content into MM when composing a message? Even a reply?
> Or can I embed these into MM?

No, those are just the applications I use in order to use markdown elsewhere. 

I do use the MultiMarkdown processor in MailMate instead of the builtin one, 
but that's by changing the underlying scripts that MailMate uses--and it's not 
really ready for general use until I have time to fix some bugs.
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