Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 14:41, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Hmm, the latter means I don't really know why it would happen for you. If it still happens with the latest test release then let me know such that I can tell you how to help me debug it. In the short term, it would be helpful (to me anyway) if the text "(offline)" could be bold or even a bold color like red. The Sources are visible on my display but I never look at them in the normal course of a day. I already did this for the latest test release (red color). Just upgraded. The red is very helpful. I'll get them all back online and let you know what transpires. __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae* https://about.me/rerettke ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 17:46, temjeito wrote: I also have this issue from time to time. Might I suggest that instead of (or in addition to) the “offline” designation, the name of the account itself change (italics, different color, etc.)? As noted in another email, the offline accounts are now using a red color (under SOURCES). If SOURCES is collapsed then this line itself is red if any accounts are offline. I might change how this works some day (visually), but for now it's more important to track down the offline-bug. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 16:38, Richard Rettke wrote: FYI Benny, I have had this issue for quite some time, never thought to bring it up though. I have 11 gmail accounts and as I was reading this I looked and 4 of them are offline. I have never received an notification for a source going offline. I have a very stable network connection and do not use sleep or power nap at all. Hmm, the latter means I don't really know why it would happen for you. If it still happens with the latest test release then let me know such that I can tell you how to help me debug it. In the short term, it would be helpful (to me anyway) if the text "(offline)" could be bold or even a bold color like red. The Sources are visible on my display but I never look at them in the normal course of a day. I already did this for the latest test release (red color). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
I also have this issue from time to time. Might I suggest that instead of (or in addition to) the “offline” designation, the name of the account itself change (italics, different color, etc.)? On 7 Mar 2016, at 10:38, Richard Rettke wrote: On 7 Mar 2016, at 8:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailinglist-at-freron.com |Mailmate/RER>Vendor>Software> Freron Software| wrote: Very few types of problems should lead to the “offline” state and most often it shouldn't happen until after the user has been warned about some kind of synchronization issue. This fits an issue which I've tried to fix today. Gmail (and Outlook) accounts using the OAuth2 authentication method could some times automatically go offline. For some users it is triggered quite often. I'm not yet sure why, but it might be related to an unstable network connection or (maybe more likely) the OS X Power Nap feature. Try the latest test release and let me know if (or if not) that helps. FYI Benny, I have had this issue for quite some time, never thought to bring it up though. I have 11 gmail accounts and as I was reading this I looked and 4 of them are offline. I have never received an notification for a source going offline. I have a very stable network connection and do not use sleep or power nap at all. In the short term, it would be helpful (to me anyway) if the text "(offline)" could be bold or even a bold color like red. The Sources are visible on my display but I never look at them in the normal course of a day. __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae* https://about.me/rerettke ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 8:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailinglist-at-freron.com |Mailmate/RER>Vendor>Software> Freron Software| wrote: Very few types of problems should lead to the “offline” state and most often it shouldn't happen until after the user has been warned about some kind of synchronization issue. This fits an issue which I've tried to fix today. Gmail (and Outlook) accounts using the OAuth2 authentication method could some times automatically go offline. For some users it is triggered quite often. I'm not yet sure why, but it might be related to an unstable network connection or (maybe more likely) the OS X Power Nap feature. Try the latest test release and let me know if (or if not) that helps. FYI Benny, I have had this issue for quite some time, never thought to bring it up though. I have 11 gmail accounts and as I was reading this I looked and 4 of them are offline. I have never received an notification for a source going offline. I have a very stable network connection and do not use sleep or power nap at all. In the short term, it would be helpful (to me anyway) if the text "(offline)" could be bold or even a bold color like red. The Sources are visible on my display but I never look at them in the normal course of a day. __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae* https://about.me/rerettke ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 15:02, Zvi Biener wrote: Does anyone know/can explain the logic of the "offline" designation of sources? When an account is “offline” then MailMate does not synchronize any of its mailboxes. It's like having the machine offline. Very few types of problems should lead to the “offline” state and most often it shouldn't happen until after the user has been warned about some kind of synchronization issue. Occasionally, some of my account go "offline". I only realize this a day or two after the fact, usually. My sources are effectively hidden below a large list of mailboxes, and I only realize that they are offline when I imagine that I should have received more mail than I have. Many times, I see the sources try to go online whenever the network is up, but in some cases they just don't. If I understand the logic, perhaps I can see when I need to check/not check. Importantly, this often applies only to gmail accounts. This fits an issue which I've tried to fix today. Gmail (and Outlook) accounts using the OAuth2 authentication method could some times automatically go offline. For some users it is triggered quite often. I'm not yet sure why, but it might be related to an unstable network connection or (maybe more likely) the OS X Power Nap feature. Try the latest test release and let me know if (or if not) that helps. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] logic of offline behavior
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know/can explain the logic of the "offline" designation of sources? Occasionally, some of my account go "offline". I only realize this a day or two after the fact, usually. My sources are effectively hidden below a large list of mailboxes, and I only realize that they are offline when I imagine that I should have received more mail than I have. Many times, I see the sources try to go online whenever the network is up, but in some cases they just don't. If I understand the logic, perhaps I can see when I need to check/not check. Importantly, this often applies only to gmail accounts. Thanks, Zvi ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
