Re: [MlMt] r5978

2023-09-01 Thread Eric Sharakan via mailmate

On 1 Sep 2023, at 14:44, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:

I’m currently using r5978 on Ventura 13.5.1.  I’ve noticed 
something in the latest few test builds related to the status of the 
“Junk State” of the messages.  No matter where or what the message 
is, Right Clicking on the message and choosing “Junk State” always 
shows the ‘Junk’ entry with the checkmark.  I used to be able to 
choose Junk or Not Junk, but I seem unable to be able to modify this 
selection. Anyone else seeing this?


I’m also using the latest SpamSieve if that makes a difference.


Yep, I'm running MM r5975 on Ventura 13.5.1 with SpamSieve and see 
identical symptoms.


-Eric



Thanks,

Steve Mayer
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Re: [MlMt] r5978

2023-09-01 Thread Henry Seiden

Steve,

Sorry to say, I cannot replicate what you’re reporting. But your issue 
should be forwarded to Benny.


As to what I see, in my install of M-M, the menu when a message is 
selected, (right click>Junk State>options) has **BOTH “Junk” and 
“Not Junk”** checked! This is true fro any selected message in the 
Inbox. So I would agree that is weird, since no junk is filtered in M-M. 
In my case, it comes pretty close - having for years used SpamSieve for 
junk mail filtering.


Here on my virtually unattended Mini, Apple Mail running SpamSieve 3.0 
b4 (beta) on a MacMini 2020 M1 to accomplish with Remote Training. That 
lets other machines drop suspected spam that get through easily. I’m 
told the new SpamSieve build 3.0 supports MailMate, however. Michael 
Tsai (developer of SpamSieve) says he will continue to support MailMate.


If there is a final imminent release of MailMate, I may try it using 
SpamSieve, but that seems way off.


My set up on the MacMini does all the filtering outside all other device 
applications (both for mobile devices using standard iOS Mail apps and 
other Mac like the MBP, both mobile and desktop connections.


So, I don’t use MM for ANY junk filtering. It can, I suppose, but it 
simply isn’t worth my time to try, plus a clean inbox is much too 
valuable to give up what works.


Take your point on experimental builds 1.14(r5978), though. R5975 seemed 
a bust having caused crashes on my machine (MBP2021 M1Pro) running MacOS 
13.5.1 (22G90) and apparently others, too.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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On 1 Sep 2023, at 14:44, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:

I’m currently using r5978 on Ventura 13.5.1.  I’ve noticed 
something in the latest few test builds related to the status of the 
“Junk State” of the messages.  No matter where or what the message 
is, Right Clicking on the message and choosing “Junk State” always 
shows the ‘Junk’ entry with the checkmark.  I used to be able to 
choose Junk or Not Junk, but I seem unable to be able to modify this 
selection. Anyone else seeing this?


I’m also using the latest SpamSieve if that makes a difference.

Thanks,

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com
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Re: [MlMt] r5978

2023-09-01 Thread Bill Cole

On 2023-09-01 at 14:44:21 UTC-0400 (Fri, 01 Sep 2023 12:44:21 -0600)
Steve Mayer via mailmate 
is rumored to have said:

I’m currently using r5978 on Ventura 13.5.1.  I’ve noticed 
something in the latest few test builds related to the status of the 
“Junk State” of the messages.  No matter where or what the message 
is, Right Clicking on the message and choosing “Junk State” always 
shows the ‘Junk’ entry with the checkmark.  I used to be able to 
choose Junk or Not Junk, but I seem unable to be able to modify this 
selection. Anyone else seeing this?


I’m also using the latest SpamSieve if that makes a difference.


I had not noticed it, but apparently in r5978 on Big Sur with a current 
Dovecot IMAP server MM thinks that both Junk and Not Junk are set on 
everything according to the menu items, but "Raw Flags" shows neither of 
them set and the filename on the server confirms that neither flag is 
set. Using the menu command to unset either flag does not work. Using 
the "Junk" button does move the message to the Junk mailbox, but there 
it has only the "Not Junk" keyword and again the menu cannot change the 
flags. \


And in testing this I crashed repeatedly, so I think something is very 
wrong in that general area...





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[MlMt] r5978

2023-09-01 Thread Steve Mayer via mailmate
I’m currently using r5978 on Ventura 13.5.1.  I’ve noticed something in the 
latest few test builds related to the status of the “Junk State” of the 
messages.  No matter where or what the message is, Right Clicking on the 
message and choosing “Junk State” always shows the ‘Junk’ entry with the 
checkmark.  I used to be able to choose Junk or Not Junk, but I seem unable to 
be able to modify this selection. Anyone else seeing this?

I’m also using the latest SpamSieve if that makes a difference.

Thanks,

Steve Mayer
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Re: [MlMt] r5978

2023-09-01 Thread Steve Mayer via mailmate

:D

I’m running Ventura 13.5.1.  You’re definitely more careful than I 
am….


Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 1 Sep 2023, at 9:13, Edward Thome wrote:


I should say that I am running Sonoma beta 7.
Personally, I am a careful person. To balance things out, I try r5978 
and Sonoma beta 7.


On 1 Sep 2023, at 10:10, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:


I’ve been having no issues with r5978 at all.

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 1 Sep 2023, at 8:32, Edward Thome wrote:


Hello, Everyone.

r5976 was working great for me. I am back to it after a little foray 
into r5978. Various mailboxes kept greying out as ‘disconnected’ 
and then they would not keep synced. Did anyone else notice that?


All the best to you all!
Ed
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Re: [MlMt] r5978

2023-09-01 Thread Edward Thome

I should say that I am running Sonoma beta 7.
Personally, I am a careful person. To balance things out, I try r5978 
and Sonoma beta 7.


On 1 Sep 2023, at 10:10, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:


I’ve been having no issues with r5978 at all.

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 1 Sep 2023, at 8:32, Edward Thome wrote:


Hello, Everyone.

r5976 was working great for me. I am back to it after a little foray 
into r5978. Various mailboxes kept greying out as ‘disconnected’ 
and then they would not keep synced. Did anyone else notice that?


All the best to you all!
Ed
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Re: [MlMt] r5978

2023-09-01 Thread Steve Mayer via mailmate

I’ve been having no issues with r5978 at all.

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 1 Sep 2023, at 8:32, Edward Thome wrote:


Hello, Everyone.

r5976 was working great for me. I am back to it after a little foray 
into r5978. Various mailboxes kept greying out as ‘disconnected’ 
and then they would not keep synced. Did anyone else notice that?


All the best to you all!
Ed
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[MlMt] r5978

2023-09-01 Thread Edward Thome

Hello, Everyone.

r5976 was working great for me. I am back to it after a little foray 
into r5978. Various mailboxes kept greying out as ‘disconnected’ and 
then they would not keep synced. Did anyone else notice that?


All the best to you all!
Ed
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