Re: [MlMt] read msg marking

2016-08-10 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen 

On 5 Aug 2016, at 17:29, Robert Brenstein wrote:

Thanks Sherif. Hopefully, this makes it into the documentation one of 
these days.


In case some might have missed it, but Benny made it possible for anyone 
to contribute

to the manual: https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual :)

/max


Robert

On 05.08.2016 at 10:57 Uhr -0400 Sherif Soliman apparently wrote:


On 4 Aug 2016, at 19:23, Robert Brenstein wrote:


The column "unread" in the list view shows a circle if the message is 
unread or is empty. I see those circles in at least 3 colors: blue, 
red, gray. However, I can't seem to find their explanation in the 
manual.



Hi Robert,



The blue and grey are simple to explain:



  * Blue: indicates a single unread message.
  * Grey: You should only see grey next to a thread, not a single 
message. Grey means that the thread has a mix of unread and read 
messages. A thread that contains messages that are all unread should 
have blue next to it, and a thread of all read messages should have 
neither blue nor grey next to it.




The red one requires a more detailed explanation, and I will quote 
Bill Cole from this previous message on the list:







On 18 Mar 2016, at 10:44, Bill Cole wrote:


It means that you use another client in addition to MailMate with 
that source account and that the other client handles message 
deletion in a classical IMAP mode. This means that messages get 
marked with the "\Deleted" flag when the user deletes them, but do 
not REALLY get deleted until the mailbox or (if the server  
client support the UIDPLUS extension) the individual message is 
purged. Some servers auto-purge mailboxes or individual \Deleted 
messages based on various criteria and some clients do as well, 
although some client+server combinations will never purge anything 
unless the user explicitly commands it.


So: a red dot in the "Read" column means that something other than 
MailMate marked the message for deletion but has not yet told the 
server to purge it.


The mechanics of handling message deletion and presentation of 
recoverable "deleted" messages vary broadly between IMAP clients. 
MailMate uses a very conservative approach of not purging messages it 
did not flag \Deleted, although I don't know how it manages that on 
servers without UIDPLUS support (which was a requirement for early 
versions of MailMate.)



Sherif





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Re: [MlMt] read msg marking

2016-08-05 Thread Robert Brenstein 
Title: Re: [MlMt] read msg marking


Thanks Sherif. Hopefully, this makes it into the documentation
one of these days.

Robert

On 05.08.2016 at 10:57 Uhr -0400 Sherif Soliman apparently
wrote:
On 4 Aug 2016, at 19:23, Robert Brenstein
wrote:

The column "unread" in the list
view shows a circle if the message is unread or is empty. I see those
circles in at least 3 colors: blue, red, gray. However, I can't seem
to find their explanation in the manual.

Hi Robert,

The blue and grey are simple to
explain:



Blue: indicates a single unread message.
Grey: You should only see grey next to a thread, not a single
message. Grey means that the thread has a mix of unread and read
messages. A thread that contains messages that are all unread should
have blue next to it, and a thread of all read messages should have
neither blue nor grey next to it.

The red one requires a more detailed
explanation, and I will quote Bill Cole from this previous message on
the list:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg05861.html

On 18 Mar 2016, at 10:44, Bill Cole
wrote:

It means that you use another client in
addition to MailMate with that source account and that the other
client handles message deletion in a classical IMAP mode. This means
that messages get marked with the "\Deleted" flag when the
user deletes them, but do not REALLY get deleted until the mailbox or
(if the server & client support the UIDPLUS extension) the
individual message is purged. Some servers auto-purge mailboxes or
individual \Deleted messages based on various criteria and some
clients do as well, although some client+server combinations will
never purge anything unless the user explicitly commands
it.
So: a red dot in the "Read"
column means that something other than MailMate marked the message for
deletion but has not yet told the server to purge it.
The mechanics of handling message
deletion and presentation of recoverable "deleted" messages
vary broadly between IMAP clients. MailMate uses a very conservative
approach of not purging messages it did not flag \Deleted, although I
don't know how it manages that on servers without UIDPLUS support
(which was a requirement for early versions of MailMate.)

Sherif


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Re: [MlMt] read msg marking

2016-08-05 Thread Sherif Soliman 


On 4 Aug 2016, at 19:23, Robert Brenstein wrote:

The column "unread" in the list view shows a circle if the message is 
unread or is empty. I see those circles in at least 3 colors: blue, 
red, gray. However, I can't seem to find their explanation in the 
manual.




Hi Robert,

The blue and grey are simple to explain:

- Blue: indicates a single unread message.
- Grey: You should only see grey next to a thread, not a single message. 
Grey means that the thread has a mix of unread and read messages. A 
thread that contains messages that are all unread should have blue next 
to it, and a thread of all read messages should have neither blue nor 
grey next to it.


The red one requires a more detailed explanation, and I will quote Bill 
Cole from this previous message on the list:


http://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg05861.html

On 18 Mar 2016, at 10:44, Bill Cole wrote:

It means that you use another client in addition to MailMate with that 
source account and that the other client handles message deletion in a 
classical IMAP mode. This means that messages get marked with the 
"\Deleted" flag when the user deletes them, but do not REALLY get 
deleted until the mailbox or (if the server & client support the 
UIDPLUS extension) the individual message is purged. Some servers 
auto-purge mailboxes or individual \Deleted messages based on various 
criteria and some clients do as well, although some client+server 
combinations will never purge anything unless the user explicitly 
commands it.


So: a red dot in the "Read" column means that something other than 
MailMate marked the message for deletion but has not yet told the 
server to purge it.


The mechanics of handling message deletion and presentation of 
recoverable "deleted" messages vary broadly between IMAP clients. 
MailMate uses a very conservative approach of not purging messages it 
did not flag \Deleted, although I don't know how it manages that on 
servers without UIDPLUS support (which was a requirement for early 
versions of MailMate.)


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