Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
On 6 Feb 2017, at 14:44, Robert Brenstein wrote: When I invoke the option “remove attachment” through the contextual menu in an incoming message, does it get actually deleted from the Application Support folder? If I understand it correctly, MM fetches all attachments to the work folder there. If I save an attachment, a copy is put in the official attachments folder, but the original stays in the work folder. I am regularly getting large attachment which are not really meant for me and I’d like to trash them, so they do not waste my disk space. Hmm, I think it might not get deleted from `~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Attachments/` which is an internal cache for MailMate, but this is a bug (I'll look into this). In general, “Remove Attachment” deletes the attachment both from its local copy of the email and in the email on the server (this is done by uploading a copy of the email without the attachment and then deleting the old email). Sorry to anyone on the list or in the ticket system waiting for replies. I've been falling behind the past few weeks (again). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] remove attachment
When I invoke the option “remove attachment” through the contextual menu in an incoming message, does it get actually deleted from the Application Support folder? If I understand it correctly, MM fetches all attachments to the work folder there. If I save an attachment, a copy is put in the official attachments folder, but the original stays in the work folder. I am regularly getting large attachment which are not really meant for me and I’d like to trash them, so they do not waste my disk space. Robert___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
On 16 Dec 2016, at 16:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 16 Dec 2016, at 16:29, Alain Israel wrote: I guess Gmail does not consider it a duplicate as the attachment is missing Yes, it indicates that MailMate somehow fails to delete the original which is why I think the problem is likely to be MailMate -- and maybe not limited to Gmail. I looked into this and I cannot find the problem. MailMate uploads the new version of the message and then deletes the old one. Gmail appears to accept this and does not appear to think of it as a duplicate. I thought that setting the Gmail IMAP settings as follows would solve it, but this appears to have no effect:  For some reason, the old message (with the attachment) is stored in “[Gmail]/All Mail”. The reason it appears in Gmail to still be in the original mailbox is because Gmail is “smart” when it finds messages with belong to the same conversation even if those messages are not in the same mailbox. This is also why it does not appear to exist in MailMate. If you subscribe to the “[Gmail]/All Mail” folder then it'll actually turn up here (eventually). I'm not really sure what, if anything, I can do about this, but you can certainly add it to my long list of gripes with Gmail. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
(I should also note, for clarity in the discussion, that IMAP does not support removing an attachment from an existing email. The only way to do it is to create a new email without the attachment and then delete the old email.) Important to know A ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
On 16 Dec 2016, at 16:29, Alain Israel wrote: I guess Gmail does not consider it a duplicate as the attachment is missing Yes, it indicates that MailMate somehow fails to delete the original which is why I think the problem is likely to be MailMate -- and maybe not limited to Gmail. (I should also note, for clarity in the discussion, that IMAP does not support removing an attachment from an existing email. The only way to do it is to create a new email without the attachment and then delete the old email.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
I guess Gmail does not consider it a duplicate as the attachment is missing Alain On 16 Dec 2016, at 16:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 16 Dec 2016, at 16:23, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: verified… that does seem to be happening. Steps to take; - sent test msg to gmail account with simple attachment - it arrives and is seen in Mailmate, verified in gmail’s web client, in the Inbox - within Mailmate, used new ‘remove attachment’ feature - attachment is successfully removed and there is one copy of the message in Mailmate - returning to gmail in a browser and there is now two copies of the message, one with attachment and one without, both seemingly in the Inbox It's kind of ironic that the result is a duplicate given that Gmail does not like duplicates, but this may be a sign that this is a general problem with “Remove Attachment” in MailMate and not a Gmail issue only. I'll note to try to reproduce the issue. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
On 16 Dec 2016, at 16:23, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: verified… that does seem to be happening. Steps to take; - sent test msg to gmail account with simple attachment - it arrives and is seen in Mailmate, verified in gmail’s web client, in the Inbox - within Mailmate, used new ‘remove attachment’ feature - attachment is successfully removed and there is one copy of the message in Mailmate - returning to gmail in a browser and there is now two copies of the message, one with attachment and one without, both seemingly in the Inbox It's kind of ironic that the result is a duplicate given that Gmail does not like duplicates, but this may be a sign that this is a general problem with “Remove Attachment” in MailMate and not a Gmail issue only. I'll note to try to reproduce the issue. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
On 16 Dec 2016, at 16:14, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: It seems to work in a couple initial tests. I am testing against a exim/dovecot server and against a gmail account. I’m not sure yet, as I find gmail’s web interface very confusing, but I may actually have two copies of the test message in my gmail account (when I visit in a browser) one with the attachments, and one with the attachments removed. I’ll try to verify or disprove that. It looks correct in Mailmate though. Thanks. I haven't tested Gmail, but (as usual) Gmail is a special case. When MailMate updates an email on the server then it first uploads the new version and then deletes the old version. This is naturally to be safe in case something goes wrong in the middle of the process. But Gmail enforces that emails must be unique. Duplicates cannot exist. It's not clear what exactly a duplicate is or what happens when uploading a duplicate since Google (as far as I know) does not document the exact behavior. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
verified… that does seem to be happening. Steps to take; - sent test msg to gmail account with simple attachment - it arrives and is seen in Mailmate, verified in gmail’s web client, in the Inbox - within Mailmate, used new ‘remove attachment’ feature - attachment is successfully removed and there is one copy of the message in Mailmate - returning to gmail in a browser and there is now two copies of the message, one with attachment and one without, both seemingly in the Inbox Best regards, verdon On 16 Dec 2016, at 10:14, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: This is a very useful feature. Thank you. It seems to work in a couple initial tests. I am testing against a exim/dovecot server and against a gmail account. I’m not sure yet, as I find gmail’s web interface very confusing, but I may actually have two copies of the test message in my gmail account (when I visit in a browser) one with the attachments, and one with the attachments removed. I’ll try to verify or disprove that. It looks correct in Mailmate though. v On 16 Dec 2016, at 9:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:19, Alain Israel wrote: Is it possible to remove the attachment of an incoming email? I have been through Help and could not find the info. The current public release of MailMate does not have such a feature, but just today I uploaded a test version of MailMate which can do it. You should consider it to be very experimental though. There are no known bugs, but it has not really been in use by anyone yet and the consequences of bugs could potentially be serious (since we are dealing with removing content from emails). You can read more about the test release and how to enable this feature in [this ticket](https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672-mailmate/tickets/260). In short, you get a “Remove Attachment” menu item in the context sensitive menu and you can also assign a key to a new `removeAttachments:` selector. The latter also works when selecting multiple messages. Both variants support undo/redo. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
This is a very useful feature. Thank you. It seems to work in a couple initial tests. I am testing against a exim/dovecot server and against a gmail account. I’m not sure yet, as I find gmail’s web interface very confusing, but I may actually have two copies of the test message in my gmail account (when I visit in a browser) one with the attachments, and one with the attachments removed. I’ll try to verify or disprove that. It looks correct in Mailmate though. v On 16 Dec 2016, at 9:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:19, Alain Israel wrote: Is it possible to remove the attachment of an incoming email? I have been through Help and could not find the info. The current public release of MailMate does not have such a feature, but just today I uploaded a test version of MailMate which can do it. You should consider it to be very experimental though. There are no known bugs, but it has not really been in use by anyone yet and the consequences of bugs could potentially be serious (since we are dealing with removing content from emails). You can read more about the test release and how to enable this feature in [this ticket](https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672-mailmate/tickets/260). In short, you get a “Remove Attachment” menu item in the context sensitive menu and you can also assign a key to a new `removeAttachments:` selector. The latter also works when selecting multiple messages. Both variants support undo/redo. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
Thanks for your quick response. Maybe I’ll wait a bit before using it. Alain On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:19, Alain Israel wrote: Is it possible to remove the attachment of an incoming email? I have been through Help and could not find the info. The current public release of MailMate does not have such a feature, but just today I uploaded a test version of MailMate which can do it. You should consider it to be very experimental though. There are no known bugs, but it has not really been in use by anyone yet and the consequences of bugs could potentially be serious (since we are dealing with removing content from emails). You can read more about the test release and how to enable this feature in [this ticket](https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672-mailmate/tickets/260). In short, you get a “Remove Attachment” menu item in the context sensitive menu and you can also assign a key to a new `removeAttachments:` selector. The latter also works when selecting multiple messages. Both variants support undo/redo. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] remove attachment
On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:19, Alain Israel wrote: Is it possible to remove the attachment of an incoming email? I have been through Help and could not find the info. The current public release of MailMate does not have such a feature, but just today I uploaded a test version of MailMate which can do it. You should consider it to be very experimental though. There are no known bugs, but it has not really been in use by anyone yet and the consequences of bugs could potentially be serious (since we are dealing with removing content from emails). You can read more about the test release and how to enable this feature in [this ticket](https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672-mailmate/tickets/260). In short, you get a “Remove Attachment” menu item in the context sensitive menu and you can also assign a key to a new `removeAttachments:` selector. The latter also works when selecting multiple messages. Both variants support undo/redo. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] remove attachment
Is it possible to remove the attachment of an incoming email? I have been through Help and could not find the info. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
