Re: [MlMt] how to change the standard from address

2014-11-27 Thread Sebastian Poll

Hi,
Thanks, didn't see that. I tried but failed as I seem to be not able to 
get the right syntax. Maybe it's because my user account (google apps 
for work) has an @ in it?
I tried defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDefaultAccount -string 
'imap://usern...@imap.example.com' with the mailadress itself or even 
the serverURL from the Identities.plist using @ or %40 (which seemed 
to have the right syntax. But I always end up with a error message that 
the default from address is unknown.)


Thanks for you help!

Sebastian


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4. Re: No more builds after 4587? (Thomas Eckhold)
5. Re: No more builds after 4587? (Benny Kj?r Nielsen)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 00:15:44 +0100
From: Benny Kj?r Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com
To: MailMate Users mailmate@lists.freron.com
Subject: Re: [MlMt] how to change the standard from address
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On 25 Nov 2014, at 8:37, Sebastian Poll wrote:


I know that mailmate chooses the from address depending on prior
mails. But what bothers me is that it always chooses my personal mail
address instead of my work address when opening a blank mail without
anything in it. Sometimes it works but mostly I would like to have 
the

work-mail to be standard.
Is there any way to do so?


Only a hidden preference as described
[here](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#composing). 
You

can get the appropriate possible values for that setting like this:

	grep serverURL ~/Library/Application\ Support/MailMate/Sources.plist 
|

cut -d\ -f2

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 00:27:31 +0100
From: Benny Kj?r Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com
To: MailMate Users mailmate@lists.freron.com
Subject: Re: [MlMt] stripping in the subject line
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On 24 Nov 2014, at 22:22, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE wrote:

I'm seeing a behavior where MM strips capitalized text followed by a 
:

in the subject line (it strips CR:, for example).  I would assume
that's to deal with any RE:, SV:, etc. so that you don't end up with
RE: RE: RE


That is correct. It even handles chinese symbols after this was 
reported

as a problem.

It's a bit aggressive to do it like this, but subject lines often 
become

very ugly.

However, it's breaking the poor benighted souls in my company that 
use

Outlook (Outlook threads on Subject line).  We use tags (like CR:) to
identify what the e-mail is (for example, CR: foo means a report
about a call with foo).


Ah, so when you reply then it ruins their threading, because the `CR:`
is missing. I was mainly concerned about the loss of information when 
I

implemented it, but no-one complained until now :-)


Any chance of having a dictionary of text to strip, rather than a
'??:'   ?


That might actually be the best (only) way to solve it. The current
solution is hardcoded in a settings file (`specifiers.plist`). You can
change it, but it's not straightforward to do so. I'll note that I
should somehow make it easily configurable, e.g., with a regular
expression (it's currently `{Alpha}{2,3}`).

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:12:54 +0100
From: Bram Heerink perso...@bramheerink.nl
To: MailMate Users mailmate@lists.freron.com
Subject: [MlMt] No more builds after 4587?
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Hi,

I'm used to beta updates of MailMate approx. once a week. Now I have
4587 for a few weeks. Is it correct there are no builds after this
version?

Regards,

Bram Heerink


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Re: [MlMt] how to change the standard from address

2014-11-27 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 27 Nov 2014, at 10:15, Sebastian Poll wrote:

Thanks, didn't see that. I tried but failed as I seem to be not able 
to get the right syntax. Maybe it's because my user account (google 
apps for work) has an @ in it?
I tried defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDefaultAccount -string 
'imap://usern...@imap.example.com' with the mailadress itself or even 
the serverURL from the Identities.plist using @ or %40 (which 
seemed to have the right syntax. But I always end up with a error 
message that the default from address is unknown.)


I assume you did restart MailMate. The other potential explanation is 
something I realized recently. If you ever changed the IMAP settings of 
this account then it's actually not the `serverURL` you need, but 
something named `shadowServerURL`:


	grep shadowServerURL ~/Library/Application\ 
Support/MailMate/Sources.plist |

cut -d\ -f2

Another way to see it is that it should match whatever the folder name 
is here:


~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/IMAP/

The `shadowServerURL` is an implementation detail needed to be able to 
allow IMAP account changes to take effect quickly (without a lot of 
database index changes). It wouldn't be a problem if I provided a GUI 
for setting the default account :-)


If this doesn't help then I'll need more details. You can send me a 
screenshot of the error and this file (off list):


~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist

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Re: [MlMt] how to change the standard from address

2014-11-27 Thread Mike Brasch
Moin Moin!

Why is this thread broken into 3 parts?

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Re: [MlMt] how to change the standard from address

2014-11-27 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 27 Nov 2014, at 11:44, Mike Brasch wrote:


Why is this thread broken into 3 parts?


The messages from Sebastian seem to all be missing the `In-Reply-To` 
header. I'm not sure why that is. Maybe Sebastian has an idea? 
@Sebastian: Is the header also missing for the messages in your “Sent 
Messages” folder? (Use ⌥⌘U to see raw headers.)


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Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 44, Issue 25

2014-11-27 Thread Sebastian Poll
To be honest I may be just using this wrong. I always changed the 
subject or removed the quoted text. I never used mailing lists before...
For this message I just responded to the Mailmate Digest. Let's see how 
this turns out, but as my problem has been solved: As soon as I stop 
sending mails I won't break this again ;-)


Have a nice one, guys!
Sebastian

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:42:49 +0100
From: Sebastian Poll polli...@gmail.com
To: mailmate@lists.freron.com
Subject: Re: [MlMt] how to change the standard from address
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Great, the Foldername worked. In the end it was something like
imap://user%40domain@imap.gmail.com\nimap.gmail.com\nimap.gmail.com

Thanks for being awesome!
Sebastian


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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:44:01 +0100
From: Mike Brasch mikebra...@fastmail.fm
To: MailMate Users mailmate@lists.freron.com
Subject: Re: [MlMt] how to change the standard from address
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Moin Moin!

Why is this thread broken into 3 parts?

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:12:41 +0100
From: Benny Kj?r Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com
To: MailMate Users mailmate@lists.freron.com
Subject: Re: [MlMt] how to change the standard from address
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On 27 Nov 2014, at 11:44, Mike Brasch wrote:


Why is this thread broken into 3 parts?


The messages from Sebastian seem to all be missing the `In-Reply-To`
header. I'm not sure why that is. Maybe Sebastian has an idea?
@Sebastian: Is the header also missing for the messages in your ?Sent
Messages? folder? (Use ??U to see raw headers.)

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Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 44, Issue 25

2014-11-27 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 27 Nov 2014, at 18:13, Sebastian Poll wrote:

To be honest I may be just using this wrong. I always changed the 
subject or removed the quoted text. I never used mailing lists 
before...


You did fine. You cannot do much better when using the digest option. 
This is also why I dislike that it's an option at all, but that's my 
fault.



For this message I just responded to the Mailmate Digest.


That won't work either except for other users using the digest option.

Let's see how this turns out, but as my problem has been solved: As 
soon as I stop sending mails I won't break this again ;-)


A digest contains multiple emails and therefore the email client cannot 
know which one is actually replied. The `Message-ID`s needed are also 
lost. It would be better if a digest was some kind of MIME-based 
standardized format, but that does not exist. Essentially, digests are a 
broken concept unless it's used for read-only purposes. (End of rant :-) 
).


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