Re: [mailop] [External] Re: IP Reputation Services

[Scott Techlist via mailop]

 

More general information about the IADB is here:
 
https://www.isipp.com/for-isps/

FWIW - spamassassin checks the ISIPP by default since 3.10 and reduces
the score if your address is found there.

 

Unfortunately, too expensive for a little guy.

 

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Re: [mailop] [External] Re: IP Reputation Services

[Kevin A. McGrail via mailop]

On 4/4/2022 11:59 AM, micah via mailop wrote:

More general information about the IADB is here:

https://www.isipp.com/for-isps/

FWIW - spamassassin checks the ISIPP by default since 3.10 and reduces
the score if your address is found there.

And I can vouch for Anne Mitchell and the ISIPP.  -KAM___
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Re: [mailop] IP Reputation Services

[Anne Mitchell via mailop]

>> iadb.isipp.com
>> 
>> More general information about the IADB is here:
>> 
>> https://www.isipp.com/for-isps/
> 
> FWIW - spamassassin checks the ISIPP by default since 3.10 and reduces
> the score if your address is found there.

True, and that is because when we came up with the idea for data response 
codes, we were specifically thinking of how we could be more useful to spam 
filters in general, and spamassassin in particular. :-) In fact for that reason 
we had someone who had worked on the original architecture of spamassassin help 
us to create the data response code system.  We also knew that others would 
copy our model and chose to let them, rather than to try to patent it or 
anything like that, because, again, at the end of the day it's about the email 
ecosystem and anything we can do to help receivers distinguish the wheat from 
the chaff is good for the entire email system.

Anne

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Re: [mailop] IP Reputation Services

[Pierre-Yves Dubreucq via mailop]

Hi,
You can look at Hetrixtools (https://hetrixtools.com/)
It's not IP Reputation Service, but this tool can you can an idea with RBL
Blacklist monitor maybe ?
Pierre-Yves

Le lun. 4 avr. 2022 à 16:42, Mike Hammett via mailop  a
écrit :

> I'm checking in to see what people think of IP reputation services.
>
> I run an ISP (well, a couple of them) and we occasionally run into issues
> where customer IPs stop working with various services because of reputation
> issues. We run a fairly light-touch as to our customer's traffic, but when
> it creates support issues, one starts to look for better ways of skinning
> the cat.
>
> I've found a few of them out there, but they seem to be priced as if I'm a
> hosting company or an ESP, not an end-user-focused ISP.
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
> 
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Re: [mailop] IP Reputation Services

[micah via mailop]

On 2022-04-04 09:37:35, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote:
> You can always query our IADB (ISIPP Accreditation Database, now known to 
> consumers as the Good Senders List, or GSL) here:
>
> iadb.isipp.com
>
> More general information about the IADB is here:
>
> https://www.isipp.com/for-isps/

FWIW - spamassassin checks the ISIPP by default since 3.10 and reduces
the score if your address is found there.

micah
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[mailop] Help With Sorbs

[Chase Vance via mailop]

 
Hello All, 
  
I was wanting to see if there was anyone from the Sorbs team on this list. I 
have a zombie IP listing that I have submitted a couple delisting tickets for 
but they haven't received a response. Thank you for any help!! 
  
Thanks,  
 
Chase 
   

 



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Re: [mailop] IP Reputation Services

[Anne Mitchell via mailop]

Mike, 

> I've found a few of them out there, but they seem to be priced as if I'm a 
> hosting company or an ESP, not an end-user-focused ISP.

As I mentioned in response to this query on the other list, but thought I'd do 
so here as well in case others were wanting this information, there are only 
two IP-based reputation services that are truly widely used, world-wide, ours 
and Validity's (nee ReturnPath).  

Our have *always* been free for receivers to query, and always will be, as our 
primary reason for having been in business for going on 20 years is to provide 
a way for *receivers* to determine the ham from the spam (making it easier for 
them to reject spam).  I'm surprised to hear that *any* of the others are 
charging for access for querying - shocked in fact.

You can always query our IADB (ISIPP Accreditation Database, now known to 
consumers as the Good Senders List, or GSL) here:

iadb.isipp.com

More general information about the IADB is here:

https://www.isipp.com/for-isps/

You can read more about our granular query responses, which we call Data 
Response Codes (we were the first to develop this method of responding to 
IP-based queries, nearly 20 years ago):

https://www.isipp.com/for-isps/about-the-codes/

If you have any questions, any at all, please feel free to reach out to me 
directly.

Kind regards,

Anne

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Re: [mailop] IP Reputation Services

[Mike Hammett via mailop]

Ah, I had missed that I could reduce the checkup frequency for the size of 
block I have. 


That certainly makes it much more friendly. 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Pierre-Yves Dubreucq"  
To: "Mike Hammett"  
Cc: "mailop"  
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 10:06:36 AM 
Subject: Re: [mailop] IP Reputation Services 


Hi, 
You can look at Hetrixtools ( https://hetrixtools.com/ ) 
It's not IP Reputation Service, but this tool can you can an idea with RBL 
Blacklist monitor maybe ? 
Pierre-Yves 


Le lun. 4 avr. 2022 à 16:42, Mike Hammett via mailop < mailop@mailop.org > a 
écrit : 




I'm checking in to see what people think of IP reputation services. 


I run an ISP (well, a couple of them) and we occasionally run into issues where 
customer IPs stop working with various services because of reputation issues. 
We run a fairly light-touch as to our customer's traffic, but when it creates 
support issues, one starts to look for better ways of skinning the cat. 


I've found a few of them out there, but they seem to be priced as if I'm a 
hosting company or an ESP, not an end-user-focused ISP. 




TIA 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 


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[mailop] IP Reputation Services

[Mike Hammett via mailop]

I'm checking in to see what people think of IP reputation services. 


I run an ISP (well, a couple of them) and we occasionally run into issues where 
customer IPs stop working with various services because of reputation issues. 
We run a fairly light-touch as to our customer's traffic, but when it creates 
support issues, one starts to look for better ways of skinning the cat. 


I've found a few of them out there, but they seem to be priced as if I'm a 
hosting company or an ESP, not an end-user-focused ISP. 




TIA 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 


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