Re: [mailop] Orange France: new IP range for emission

[Michael Peddemors via mailop]

Remember to update SWIP/RWhois, PTR's and SPF before then of course..

inetnum:80.12.242.0 - 80.12.242.1
netname:MAIL-ESSENTIALS-FRANCE
descr:  Mail Essentials Project
country:FR
admin-c:TDMT1-RIPE
tech-c: TDMT1-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
remarks:for hacking, spamming or security problems send mail to
remarks:ab...@orange.fr
mnt-by: FT-BRX
created:2010-07-26T08:54:09Z
last-modified:  2010-07-26T08:54:09Z
source: RIPE


On 2022-06-27 06:56, axelle allouch via mailop wrote:

Hi all,

FYI, in a few weeks we will add new IPs to our emission ranges.

We will be updating our SMTP delivery pool of IP ranges. I believe it 
will be a good idea to notify you about the server's IP ranges that will 
send emails from us in case you have a specific configuration for our 
SMTP/Out service.


Here is the list of IP ranges that we’ll be using:

80.12.242.0/25

80.12.242.128/29

193.252.23.210/31

193.252.23.212/30

193.252.23.66

193.252.22.0/25

193.252.22.210/31

193.252.22.212/30

BR

axelle

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[mailop] Orange France: new IP range for emission

[axelle allouch via mailop]

Hi all,

FYI, in a few weeks we will add new IPs to our emission ranges.
We will be updating our SMTP delivery pool of IP ranges. I believe it will be a 
good idea to notify you about the server's IP ranges that will send emails from 
us in case you have a specific configuration for our SMTP/Out service.

Here is the list of IP ranges that we'll be using:

80.12.242.0/25

80.12.242.128/29

193.252.23.210/31

193.252.23.212/30

193.252.23.66

193.252.22.0/25

193.252.22.210/31

193.252.22.212/30


BR
axelle

[Logo Orange]



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Re: [mailop] ARC and not ARC, was Microsoft Announces Tenant Trusted ARC Seal

[Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop]

On 25/06/2022 18:14, John Levine via mailop wrote:

It appears that Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop  said:

I really, really miss one simple feature in ARC signatures. Whilst it is
+/- trivial to have a list of trusted signers on a receiver side, it
would be super helpful to allow **a sender** to specify it's next
trusted hop.


You mean liks this?

   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-levine-dkim-conditional/

I proposed that in 2014, the ARC crowd didn't go for it.


Yes, that's exactly what I have in my mind if thinking about how to 
`fix` dmarc for forwarding!


And it doesn't introduce that bloated complexity that ARC does, allowing 
to restore authority by just following DKIM signatures. It is not a 
silver bullet as you still have a choice to trust or not for those 
forwarders but it is really a choice of a sender, like the whole DMARC 
policy. As far as I observe, spammers now use DMARC more actively and 
properly than legit senders.


So now we also need to check more signatures with ARC (which I 
personally hate, as RSA and even EdDSA are quite CPU intensive 
operations) and still have no way to allow a sender to specify a trusted 
forwarder.


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Re: [mailop] dmarc reports

[Sebastiaan de Vos via mailop]

Hello Eduardo,

The latest version of OpenDMARC is able to send reports. Documentation 
can be found here 
(http://www.trusteddomain.org/opendmarc/reports-README). It works with 
history-files, cron-jobs and - preferrably - a database.


Personally, I have chosen to replace Spamassassin, OpenDKIM and 
OpenDMARC with a tool that does all at once: rspamd 
(https://www.rspamd.com/doc/quickstart.html).


I hope this helps!

Kind Regards,

Sebastiaan de Vos

*From:*mailop  *On Behalf Of *Edwardo 
Garcia via mailop

*Sent:* Montag, 27. Juni 2022 10:47
*To:* mailop@mailop.org
*Subject:* [mailop] dmarc reports

Friends,

For many years we are using DMARC, DKIM and SPF, for many years, we 
are getting reports, but we want to send DMARC reports too.


I have spend much hours on google since evening (it is now 330am!) and 
i am flooded with informations on how to read them, set them up, even 
when using keywords saying  sending reports, but, nowhere can I find 
this informations.


Does someone have a URL or any kind of links to website or document 
which gives this informations as it is outside of my ability to find 
apparently, unless it end up beings page 700 on google search,  I 
wasted to much time on google already.


We are using postfix, spamassassin opendmarc, but are at loss to 
understand how to send reports out to peoples


gracious for any help or informations references for this, but for now 
I go to bed


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[mailop] dmarc reports

[Edwardo Garcia via mailop]

Friends,

For many years we are using DMARC, DKIM and SPF, for many years, we are
getting reports, but we want to send DMARC reports too.

I have spend much hours on google since evening (it is now 330am!) and i am
flooded with informations on how to read them, set them up, even when using
keywords saying  sending reports, but, nowhere can I find this informations.

Does someone have a URL or any kind of links to website or document which
gives this informations as it is outside of my ability to find apparently,
unless it end up beings page 700 on google search,  I wasted to much time
on google already.

We are using postfix, spamassassin opendmarc, but are at loss to understand
how to send reports out to peoples

gracious for any help or informations references for this, but for now I go
to bed
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Re: [mailop] Microsoft Announces Tenant Trusted ARC Seal

[Patrick Ben Koetter via mailop]

FYI: After some unfruitful offlist communication with Noel we finally 
took the step and unsubscribed him from the mailop mailinglist and we do 
not intend to let him subscribe this list again.



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Am 19.06.22 um 09:02 schrieb Noel Butler via mailop:


I dont respond to smart arse trolls who have nothing better to do than 
try bait people, youve been around long enough to know exactly what I 
was talking about its nothing to do with lists its email standards if 
you dont understand that put your bottle down, sober up, and itll come 
back to you



On 19/06/2022 11:36, Dave Crocker via mailop wrote:



On 6/18/2022 3:40 PM, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
As for forwarding, SPF is only a problem if you dont follow 
standards and re-write



Hi.

You don't indicate what kind of rewriting you mean.  It probably 
doesn't matter, since you seem to feel that mailing lists have to 
follow some relevant standards. that would sustain SPF validation. 
However I don't have a guess at what standards you have in mind.


I also don't understand how SPF validates, when mail is simply 
relayed through an MTA that isn't pre-registered in the SPF DNS 
record. Are you thinking that it is natural and reasonable to 
pre-register all of the MTAs in a path, up to the receiving one that 
does SPF validation?


Please enlighten us.

d/
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